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Eh, 28 is not good for OOS MD unless you are URM. Your best bet is FSU and maybe med school at your own university.
There's a whole thread full of "27-29 MCAT with interviews" of people who would beg to differ. He has a solid GPA. He has a fair shot.
FSU, FIU, FAU, UCF, USF are going to be your best bet schools.
45% is poor odds? Welcome to SDN, where anything less than 100% is considered a fail.Table 24 dude...a 3.7/28 has poor odds. Dont base your argument on a handful of people reporting success when you have access to the population data
45% is poor odds? Welcome to SDN, where anything less than 100% is considered a fail.
What is your average MCAT over all attempts?the 3rd time I got a 28...
That means he doesn't even have a 50/50 chance. Not good odds.45% is poor odds? Welcome to SDN, where anything less than 100% is considered a fail.
45% is poor odds? Welcome to SDN, where anything less than 100% is considered a fail.
45% is poor odds? Welcome to SDN, where anything less than 100% is considered a fail.
What is your average MCAT over all attempts?
What is your race/ethnicity? Consult AMCAS table 25 (just Google it and you'll find the link) and if you think the odds are acceptable. A quick and dirty from my perspective figuring that your first and second MCAT attempts were < 28 and that you are white and considering that a 3.8 is closer to 3.7 than to 4.0, I come up up a 44% chance of someone with a 3.6-4.0/24-29 being admitted to at least one MD school. I think that just looking at the 3.8-4.0/27-29 cell in this case overestimates the OP's chances.
45%- Great odds when you're applying for something that will affect the rest of your life.
45%-Terrible grade on your art history 101 exam that will sink all your hopes and aspirations for medical school.
It can't be both, and 45% certainly isn't a good shot, but everything is always relative
The good thing about being a pessimist is you're either right or pleasantly surprised
Um, OP will likely have to apply to 20+ schools to have those odds. That alone is expensive (already breaking two grand easily), plus you have to combine that with traveling and other expenses related to interviews. Plus that's essentially a year wasted (or at least not fully utilized) if OP doesn't get in. So yes, wagering up all that money for odds not in your favor is pretty poor.45% is poor odds? Welcome to SDN, where anything less than 100% is considered a fail.
I get a feeling that you are having an inner monologue 😵
He asked what med schools would give him the best odds given his stats, not for people to jump down his throats and tell him to consider pizza delivery instead.
That's a 45% chance of being accepted to 1 or more med schools and a 55% chance of being accepted to no med schools, despite applying to many. You seem to be under the impression that it is a 45% chance of being accepted at each school, which is certainly not the case.Lol very funny. Considering that all it takes is one acceptance, an almost 50/50 shot seems like great odds to me. I had a 15% shot of getting into my undergrad institution. I don't really see the point of being so pessimistic about everything. I'm sure OP is well aware that his stats are less than ideal. He asked what med schools would give him the best odds given his stats, not for people to jump down his throats and tell him to consider pizza delivery instead.
I think some people on the pre-osteo board would be a wee bit offended by you comparing going to DO school to delivering pizzas. 😉
That's a 45% chance of being accepted to 1 or more med schools and a 55% chance of being accepted to no med schools, despite applying to many. You seem to be under the impression that it is a 45% chance of being accepted at each school, which is certainly not the case.
Right, but then you compared it to you having a 15% chance of getting into your undergrad, which isn't comparable. Most of the med schools I applied to only interviewed about 15% of applicants, and accepted far fewer.I specifically wrote "all it takes is one acceptance." I was not equating it to being a 45% chance of getting at accepted each school. That would be absurd.
Right, but then you compared it to you having a 15% chance of getting into your undergrad, which isn't comparable. Most of the med schools I applied to only interviewed about 15% of applicants, and accepted far fewer.
This. And you should probably accept DO because you are a good canidate for DO schools. But in-state is going to be your best bet. Maybe some private schools. If you include DO then you have good shot at becoming a physician Stats-wiseFSU, FIU, FAU, UCF, USF are going to be your best bet schools.
I think the purpose of these boards is to help people have the best shot at getting into med school, which requires a realistic view of their odds so they know where to apply. "Building people up" sounds a lot like making people overly confident in their app so they don't apply to as many or as many of the right schools as they need to, or they apply with a 25 MCAT instead of retaking it.Fair enough. Either way, the purpose of these boards are to build people up, not shatter their hopes and dreams. If OP had a 2.75 GPA and a 25 MCAT, I would understand the need to bluntly tell him that he has no chance. But posting a picture of Ross and mocking him when he has a 3.8 and a 28 just seems to be borderline bullying to me. Just my opinion, of course.
Purchase a subscription to MSAR. There you can sort MD schools by MCAT range (10th-90th percentile) and the school pages will show median MCAT of accepted students.Hey guys thanks for the input! Yes, I will be applying to all Florida M.D. schools and all Florida D.O. schools. I am well aware that my stats are better for D.O. than M.D. Are there any out of state M.D. schools that have lower MCAT stat averages??
Oh, and btw I am hispanic if that makes any difference! I will do my best to kill it in the secondaries and interviews to see what happens!
There's a whole thread full of "27-29 MCAT with interviews" of people who would beg to differ. He has a solid GPA. He has a fair shot.
If you really do identity as Hispanic (culture, language), and you can sell yourself as a multi-diverse/cultural person, then I think you have an alright shot at FIU. They are pretty mission based on working with diverse communities (esp. of course, the Latin American city of Miami)Hey guys thanks for the input! Yes, I will be applying to all Florida M.D. schools and all Florida D.O. schools. I am well aware that my stats are better for D.O. than M.D. Are there any out of state M.D. schools that have lower MCAT stat averages??
Oh, and btw I am hispanic if that makes any difference! I will do my best to kill it in the secondaries and interviews to see what happens!
outlier, their 10th percentile is a 29Numbers aren't everything... I know someone who got into UF with a 27 MCAT this year. Keep your head up 🙂
Numbers aren't everything... I know someone who got into UF with a 27 MCAT this year. Keep your head up 🙂
Perhaps they had something really special going for them?
Numbers aren't everything... I know someone who got into UF with a 27 MCAT this year. Keep your head up 🙂
No no no no no
No no no no no
These people getting in with super low numbers have something else really valued going for them like extremely impressive community involvement, leadership, military or peace c service, or lots of melanin in their skin. It is NOT evidence that people with the typical premed package and a 27/28 should have high hopes
These people getting in with super low numbers have something else really valued going for them like extremely impressive community involvement, leadership, military or peace c service, or lots of melanin in their skin. It is NOT evidence that people with the typical premed package and a 27/28 should have high hopes