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So I interviewed at Emory early on in the trail and now am having second thoughts about ranking them highly.

What I liked about them was the county hospital training, the great fellowship matches!, the emory name. I didn't get to interact much with the residents (missed dinner) so didn't get a feel for what they are like and their overall happiness. Can anyone comment on this?

Also, did anyone feel like the PD did not seem very approachable?

dah!!! I hate the feeling that I could mess up ranking them highly and mess up not ranking them highly.

Also whats up with them not filling all their spots last year!
 
So I interviewed at Emory early on in the trail and now am having second thoughts about ranking them highly.

What I liked about them was the county hospital training, the great fellowship matches!, the emory name. I didn't get to interact much with the residents (missed dinner) so didn't get a feel for what they are like and their overall happiness. Can anyone comment on this?

Also, did anyone feel like the PD did not seem very approachable?

dah!!! I hate the feeling that I could mess up ranking them highly and mess up not ranking them highly.

Also whats up with them not filling all their spots last year!

Also heavily discussed last year...most of us thought the program was solid but somewhat underwhelming - and definitely in a transition phase. Friends of mine, though, have generally good things to report this year.

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=711973
 
I personally really liked Emory during my interview. I had a chance to talk to many residents and interns and it seems like they're happy with their learning and workload. I think the malignant reputation carries over from 20 or so years ago but one of the chief residents told me that's a thing of the past. The new PD is hard to read but he did seem like he means well. The chief also told me that the PD sends out emails surveying what the residents need/want and makes changes accordingly. I did think the noon conference was underwhelming and resident participation was very poor. Anyone else got the same impression?
 
I'm glad to hear those comments about the PD. I received a PM regarding concerns over his behavior as well, but it seems like from you that the residents like him. Regarding the MR and the noon conference--couldn't agree with you more. Maybe I thought it was very underwhelming and unimpressive bc I was comparing it to UTSW's? Maybe, but I don't know, there was something very "eh, whatever, we're here, i made this ppt last night, listen if you want, otherwise eat and leave," like it was something that I think any MS1 could do. Maybe too harsh, I don't know, but UTSW's MR/NC were off the chain and tiers above Emory.

However, its pretty clear from their fellowship matches, that people all across the country value and respect the Emory training.


I personally really liked Emory during my interview. I had a chance to talk to many residents and interns and it seems like they're happy with their learning and workload. I think the malignant reputation carries over from 20 or so years ago but one of the chief residents told me that's a thing of the past. The new PD is hard to read but he did seem like he means well. The chief also told me that the PD sends out emails surveying what the residents need/want and makes changes accordingly. I did think the noon conference was underwhelming and resident participation was very poor. Anyone else got the same impression?
 
I thought Emory was impressive in terms of their facilities. The training seems to be very solid. However, unless you're from a similar city, Atlanta certainly leaves something to be desired. There is not much diversity other than white and black and a few black residents from my home program that are originally from Atlanta tells me that the city can be quite segregated. Of course, there will be people who can cite personal experiences to counter these claims.

When I interviewed, the interviewers were very personable and tried very hard to recruit us to their program. I suppose after having to scramble to fill last year they are a little more cautious this time around.

All in all, I would say that Cards is definitely very strong here and if that's what you're interested in this place is one of the best.
 
Yes, I agree the PD totally sucked! He was so lame! But on another note, the associate PD, Dr. Higgins, was awesome! She seemed so personable and approachable. She would definitely be my go to person. I think its great that Emory has so many hospitals which their residents train at. I just wonder, is five hospitals too many? Also, was anybody else bothered by how little elective time there is in the program, (none as an intern and only a few months during second and third year). I feel like having elective time is critical for preparing an application for fellowship.
 
Agree that the PD doesn't make the best of first impressions. On the other hand, I heard from a couple residents who worked with him on the wards that he's amazingly smart, listens to them, and will go to bat for them whenever needed.

Also agree that noon conference was underwhelming; it's pretty clear that those are not the residents' top priority.

As to the residents' overall happiness, I had the impression that they were some of the happier people I met on the interview tour. Overall a friendly bunch. It was the only place I interviewed at where a resident hosted dinner at their place. Thought it was a little weird at first, but ended up liking that approach a lot in hindsight.

Overall, I liked the program. The ability to handle many many patients with multiple complex issues seems to be what the residents learn to do really well. It's not a perfect program, and it has more mud than polish, but at least I'll know that at the end of three years I can actually be independent and manage patients on my own.
 
What did you guys think of Emory this year? I was at first underwhelmed by them, but the more I think about it, I think I liked them overall.

How is the work/life balance there? It seems like they modified their call schedule and NF to make it pretty balanced, but I kept hearing people on the trail say, "Emory residents get worked liked animals."
 
What did you guys think of Emory this year? I was at first underwhelmed by them, but the more I think about it, I think I liked them overall.

How is the work/life balance there? It seems like they modified their call schedule and NF to make it pretty balanced, but I kept hearing people on the trail say, "Emory residents get worked liked animals."

That they work hard was the impression I got too, but the program seemed solid overall. I don't think any of the residents worry at all about fellowship placement.
 
Cant imagine it being too far above the average program. I have yet to work 80 hours most ward weeks hover in the 50-60s. And most days we have two hours of conference/report. Not even close to animal like and I'm a rad onc prelim. Have had plenty of time to enjoy life/Atlanta with the wife / intern folk.
 
Any idea what the average board scores are like for Emory? I saw there was a PGY-3 who was a DO in the primary care tract and 2 DO's who were either prelims or TY's. Does Emory not take a lot of DO's or do DO's not apply to Emory?
 
Any idea what the average board scores are like for Emory? I saw there was a PGY-3 who was a DO in the primary care tract and 2 DO's who were either prelims or TY's. Does Emory not take a lot of DO's or do DO's not apply to Emory?
Pcom is close to Emory. Seems to me like a lot of students would at least try to rotate and therefore apply at Emory. I'll find out when I start there this fall. Would be very ecstatic to do a rotation there. One of my incoming classmates already got the okay to do ortho rotations there.. So this leads me to believe plenty of DO's would apply there.
 
I'm glad to hear those comments about the PD. I received a PM regarding concerns over his behavior as well, but it seems like from you that the residents like him. Regarding the MR and the noon conference--couldn't agree with you more. Maybe I thought it was very underwhelming and unimpressive bc I was comparing it to UTSW's? Maybe, but I don't know, there was something very "eh, whatever, we're here, i made this ppt last night, listen if you want, otherwise eat and leave," like it was something that I think any MS1 could do. Maybe too harsh, I don't know, but UTSW's MR/NC were off the chain and tiers above Emory.

However, its pretty clear from their fellowship matches, that people all across the country value and respect the Emory training.

To be fair, there are many MRs/NC in Internal Medicine that are relatively useless. There will be days you just want to eat and leave.
 
What is Emory like for sub-specialties besides cardiology?

several of my classmates went to Emory. From what I can tell you won't have much difficulty matching in other fields. There is a large cancer center, which basically does everything, that is associated with Emory so heme/onc isn't that hard to find stuff to do in. There are plenty of ID people walking around and if you had an interest in public health the CDC is close by (you don't directly work there as a resident but ID people can help to hook you up with spots, there is also a special fellowship the CDC offers is epidemiology that some residents from emory have done; also their community hospital is filled with hiv and strange ID stuff). Lots of emory residents also do GI and from what I can tell they have a very strong match rate. Not sure about endo or rheum or renal but those fields are generally pretty easy to match and I am sure if there are fellowships available in those fields at Emory then there are opportunities to be had.

So while emory is heavy on cardiology, by tradition, there are plenty of opportunities for people with other interests as well.
 
I found Emory to be a very weak hematology oncology program compared to other Southern programs like Vanderbilt, UNC and Duke. They have a long ways to go in terms of building their fellowship program. Atlanta is a cool city though.
 
I was just accepted for Emory's Heme/Onc rotation this summer. Would completing a rotation there give me an increased chance of being invited for an IM residency interview? (assuming I do well, etc).
 
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