That was the the reason I never bothered going to lecture, had to study for a test every week, and most of the people I saw during lecture on the rare occasions I went were not paying attention, many were goofing off on Facebook or socializing with their friends. AZCOM uses that system because it makes the students more vigilant about medical school and particularly the boards.
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We lost one the day of orientation...apparently someone found out all her pre-reqs were not complete. how this happens...I have no idea.
I don't understand some people, they go through whole process only to make an about face.
Ouch!
The one guy in our class just suddenly realized that he already had a degree that would let him make crazy bank, so why did he want to put himself through all this and go in debt to do it?
Another... I can't say exactly what happened there. He always had this deer-in-the-headlights look to him. Like everything was totally bewildering all the time. I don't know if it was his first time out of a really sheltered environment or something worse was going on.
Honestly, I think a lot of people get addicted (maybe not the right word) to the chase and/or challenge of medical. In reality, they didn't want to be doctors. They wanted to be able to say they accomplished something very difficult; i.e. getting in. Once they are faced with reality, they realize its not what they wanted.
That or parental pressure, its often tiger parents pushing them into something they don't want, but when I see someone jump ship like that I think what a waste.
Yanks, how are things going for you now? You had a rocky start as I recall, did fine on your first exam, right?
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Like I said, the grass is always greener. I'm in PBL, so to me it feels likely weekly smaller exams would be easier than big block exams (I admit that's likely not true). Students with weekly exams think they'd have more free time if they had block exams (that's not true either). There's pros and cons to both systems, and I feel like just about everyone is envious of the system they're not in.
From an OMS-II and fellow hater of anatomy, it gets better. I promise.
Thanks for asking.... my start was more or less consumed with me feeling I wasn't going to be able to cut it and/or compare to those around me. We're a few exams in now and I'm almost a full SD above the mean..so I'm doing pretty good so far! Just hoping I can maintain this level now.
Part of me doesn't want to hate it tbh, like I think it helps to know muscles and ****. That being said the entire subject is taught in such a ****ty poorer non-clinical way.
Also I cannot wait to be out of MSK. Like the lack of physiology is a killer.
Looking in retrospect, I think what AZCOM did was for the best, they made sure a good number of us passed the boards and some of us who struggled, they decelerated and those eventually passed the board exams. Some of other schools have a more hands off approach when it comes to students preparing for the board exams, a friend of mine attends a school that is on a regular semester system and uses block exams, compared to my school, his schedule is not as intense during his first two years, but he has more pressure to pass his boards on his own.
If I paid the tuition AZCOM asked I would expect the urinals to run on Perrier.
Most of the DO schools around the country have become over priced.
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We have the 70% requirement in every component/aspects of a course, with board style questions (you can't do good in written anatomy and then fail lab with a 60, but still pass cause your average is over 70%, you must get 70% on both components). So far it seems like about 20% of the class fail any hard course exam. They do adjust somewhat by dropping questions, but a curve is out of the question, and the adjustments haven't significantly improved my grades (gained no more than 4% so far). Supposedly we have lost people already, I have no idea. I just don't want to join them.
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I think we have the same thing. We have to pass practicals, OMM tests, etc with a 70 above on each one. But for our regular classes if you go under a 70% with the curve you need to go to education and etc.
Yeah they do give you a tutor if you drop below 70 (for first year), but honestly its more exhausting than I thought trying to make sure every component is that high. One bad exam and your back is against the wall, and its incredibly easy to drop one with the board style questions on difficult topics. Its tiring for sure.
I think in general medical school is as a whole tiring. I mean, I do well, but I don't think i'll ever really have a semblance of safety or calm until the end of second year.
I can understand CCOM being that expensive (good rotations, Chicagoland area, etc,) but AZCOM's tuition seems farfetched.
Actually the third year can be rough on people, its your first year of clinical education and the whole paradigm has shifted from classroom to actual practical learning. Also you do not see many of your friends and professors at that point, so it becomes a lonely time in school.
Idk how that happens.... KCU needs to chill with their curriculum. But yah, we're down about 5 ppl in first year now.
The out of state tuition at many state DO schools is about the same as private DO schools. Its state MD schools where you get a good deal on your education.
You should see how they got on our case simply for not having enough study space for students.
Like COCA is going to care
Its not unheard for some schools to have greater than 10 percent attrition, particularly newer schools that might take less competitive applicants. COCA is nothing like the LCME.Like COCA is going to care
A few years ago my school doubled its class size to 250 students in one year and they never said a thing.
That's interesting. I just don't like how lax they are with the proliferation of DO schools.
NYCOM doesn't have a class of 115. It's almost 100% ATSU-SOMA.
http://www.aacom.org/docs/default-source/cib/2016_cib.pdf?sfvrsn=16
page 33, closest to 115 students is OSU
page 33, closest to 115 students is OSU
Well they cannot keep building new schools constantly, eventually there is going to a be a saturation point.
We're still the only career where almost every single person can make $200k...we have awhile
As far as 200k for every single doctor, not even close, many cities are saturated with physicians, I know in Boston many primary care doctors earn less than that. You also have to consider student loan payments as that is not tax deductible and takes off a massive amount of one's income.
Other big cities are similar, the only way most primary care doctors earn more than 200k is if they are working long hours.
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I didn't say you can make it in every zip code....I said every can make it, and yes even family docs can make 200k pretty easily as long as they are geography flexible without working extra hours