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Passion4Sci said:
Can you show me the statistic that came from somewhere other than your fourth point of contact?

Again, your six Deans of Pharmacy can't be your deus ex machina here.
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Incorrect use of deus ex machina but whatever works!

Again, why don't you go out and talk to pharmacy schools like I did? They all said the same thing to me and so did the 6+ deans I spoke with. This isn't a big myth that the CC courses are looked down upon.
 
Some e-mails I dug up from last years application cycles since I was in a similar predicament with university level bio courses vs CC level.

The first semester bio course I took at a CC had a lab component attached, however the second semester bio course was taken at a UC where they're actually on a quarter system and had no lab component)

From a shenandoah rep

".I suggest you go back to OCC for the second semester of biology with lab, or you may take it at Golden West College. One of the other biology courses you've taken will satisfy the Biological Science Elective, 3 credits."

From an MWU-CPG rep

".You do need to take the other bio lab, do your upper level bios have a lab component? If not, yes you may take it at any community college."
 
Well I can tell you why its not posted on some websites... because there is no need to. I mentioned taking science classes to someone on the admissions committee during one of my interviews and she just laughed and said no way, no how.

Again, in our area CCs are pretty much for people who couldn't get into a 4 year university or who couldn't take a 4 year university.There classes are vastly substandard to what you get elsewhere.

And that's probably why no one posts 'we do not take CC credits' because its common sense that they would not accept them.

Cali appears to be the brunt of the exception due to the sheer number of people they have. I have talked to a friend out there, who I went to high school with, and she said the CCs in Cali are completely different from the CCs where I'm from, so I completely understand that aspect of it.
 
TXPharmDStudent said:
It doesn't matter, 6 accredited pharmacy schools had their Dean tell me the same thing.
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You have to realize that every pharmacy school is structured differently. Those 6 schools may have programs that work differently than most pharmacy schools.

And it does matter, because if you had data from more than 10-20% of pharmacy schools in the country, your statements might be more credible.
TXPharmDStudent said:
So it's true that CC classes are looked down upon, what else is there to say?
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If they all start looking down on CCs, they might as well require applicants to attend 4-year schools as a pre-requisite.

It might not be looking down on CCs, but trying to suggest attending 4-year schools, since it is much easier to complete pre-reqs there.
 
TXPharmDStudent said:
Incorrect use of deus ex machina but whatever works!

Again, why don't you go out and talk to pharmacy schools like I did? They all said the same thing to me and so did the 6+ deans I spoke with. This isn't a big myth that the CC courses are looked down upon.
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yes, indeed, whatever works - You're willing to do whatever you can to avoid answering the question.

Why do you think 6 out of ~115 is significant? You did take statistics, right?

Say there are 115 smokers in a room, and you ask 5 of them if they have lung cancer. All 5 of them say, "nope, sure don't", and now you can go along your merry way proclaiming proudly that smoking cigarettes is not at all whatsoever a risk factor for developing lung cancer.

That is precisely how ludicrous you are coming across here. You have zero proof that "most" pharmacy schools do or don't do anything. Speaking to six deans of pharmacy does not "most" make. Again.

And what makes you think I haven't spoken to anyone about the issue? Just because I don't indulge that particular portion of your "argument" doesn't mean I haven't done that myself.
 
Passion4Sci said:
What does this even mean?
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I think he/she might be talking about how some people don't even consider things outside of the United States, so they might think that everything in America are all there is :laugh:
 
Wow. What the hell happened in this thread. It's Thanksgiving for crying out loud. Plus it is not that serious. I already accepted the fact that I will be set back a year and I already took it upon my self to ensure that I become a more competitive applicant for the next cycle. This thread was created to air my frustrations, not to create this big debate about whether CC credits are transferable or looked down upon. That was the only class that caused an issue and I spoke to AdComm at UH and there were no other problems apart from the Bio credits.
 
Passion4Sci said:
Yeah, I've never been to another country.
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oh wait, I just went back and read it carefully.

You said: "6 out of 115, in this universe"
and that person was trying to say "you mean 6 out of 115 in the US?" because there are many pharmacy schools outside of the US, and 115 isn't counting every pharmacy school on earth.
 
crazybob said:
oh wait, I just went back and read it carefully.

You said: "6 out of 115, in this universe"
and that person was trying to say "you mean 6 out of 115 in the US?" because there are many pharmacy schools outside of the US, and 115 isn't counting every pharmacy school on earth.
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OH! I was actually referring to the percentage! I see where the mistake came from. S/he misread my statement to mean that I think there are no pharmacy schools elsewhere. That was definitely not what I meant. Bringing schools from outside the USA would be sort of immaterial since we're talking about the USA, right?

And 6/115, in ANY language, is not most.
 
crazybob said:
I think he/she might be talking about how some people don't even consider things outside of the United States, so they might think that everything in America are all there is :laugh:
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Correct!
 
Passion4Sci said:
Yeah, I've never been to another country.
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You still could assume there is live outside of America 🙂 And far more than 6 schools in America could possibly prefer people to complete their prereq's at a 4 year University. Neither you, nor your opponent have enough substantial evidence to put this argument to rest. Maybe you should bring it down to a message level so not to overshadow the initial point of this thread.
 
what is weird is that i had a dream about you last night and you had one interview lmao.
why don't you take 22 credits next semester and fulfull the biology requirements? you should be ready for the tests if you did well on the pcat's bio section.
 
pharmRxn said:
what is weird is that i had a dream about you last night and you had one interview lmao.
why don't you take 22 credits next semester and fulfull the biology requirements? you should be ready for the tests if you did well on the pcat's bio section.
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That would require a lot of motivation and hard work. It would be up to delano to decide whether or not he wants to go through with it. If he's feeling better by the beginning of next semester, then it shouldn't be too much, but if not, it might be.
 
22 Credits?!? Most schools (probably all) have a cap at 18 credits persemiester. Unless you do the remainder somehwere else. But damn, 18 credits is allow of work. Did 14 credits once (just to see what it was like as a Chem Major junior yr) and I barley kept myself afloat (A:B ratio 1:2). Exams every 2 weeks per class, projects papers due per class, Cumulative exams in the end (back to back and some on thesame day). That semiester just flew by.

Keep ur head up delano2000. Maintain that great GPA, ur just one yr away man.

Thumbs up for Johnnie Walker (black) + sweet natural coconut water. So...so clean.
 
pharm B said:
If you take those 22 hours your last semester before pharmacy school, they'll know you're either:

A) Dedicated, dedicated, downright motivated!

or

B) Suicidal

😉
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At my pharmacy school each semester is usually 16-19 hours, 22 hours while a little excessive is something they should get used to.
 
pharmRxn said:
what is weird is that i had a dream about you last night and you had one interview lmao.
why don't you take 22 credits next semester and fulfull the biology requirements? you should be ready for the tests if you did well on the pcat's bio section.
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Lol at you having a dream about me. :laugh:


Like others said though, that would be suicide. Plus, there is a limit that I can take at my school, which is 19. I will be doing 17 in the Spring I believe. Thanks for the support though everyone.
 
MrMeowphers said:
If you really wanted to go to Pharm School, you should have done your research and set yourself up with good/correct information.

Most of the top pharmacy programs (just like medical programs, dental programs, optometry, graduate programs, etc...) do not accept Community College credit because of this simple rule:

1.) Most classes are small (< 30 people in size), and the difficulty level is the same as some high school classes. Therefore it's very easy to "pad" your GPA.

This even happens at a regular University to University level... my friend could only transfer 1/2 of his credits earned at UT as an undergraduate when he transferred to Stanford. UT accepted 0 of his Stanford credits when he transferred back to UT...:idea:

Good luck on retaking the PCAT, I wish you the best for the Fall 2010 application round.
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Yeah...the University of Michigan will not take any CC courses for their statistics course (which means you have to have gone to a 4 year university). And they're definitely a top ranked school.

My CC experience has been that the quality of teaching was extremely low and the work and level of critical thinking involved was also very low.
 
I also took Bio 1&2 for science majors at a CC. I'm trying to get into a texas pharm program....so your saying they UT won't accept any CC science credits? If that's true I really think that's unfair b/c my University required me to take a science course + lab before they would accept me. I've taken every other science pre req at the university up to Orgo II so far. That would suck if I had to retake Bio1&2
 
URMs with a >60 PCAT are highly sought after by schools to meet their racial quotas.

Don't worry dude. You will get in this year.
 
perhaps its time you realize your not "pharmacy material",,,but dont worry maybe you'll have better luck getting into truck driving school...:luck: good luck

- ps if that doesn't work out you might have a bright future in janitorial work👍
 
craig1212 said:
perhaps its time you realize your not "pharmacy material",,,but dont worry maybe you'll have better luck getting into truck driving school...:luck: good luck
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👎thumbdown👎

at least try to provide some words of encouragement.

craig1212 said:
- ps if that doesn't work out you might have a bright future in janitorial work👍
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👎

Again, no need to try to put someone down just because you think it's funny.

:troll:
 
craig1212 said:
perhaps its time you realize your not "pharmacy material",,,but dont worry maybe you'll have better luck getting into truck driving school...:luck: good luck

- ps if that doesn't work out you might have a bright future in janitorial work👍
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:wtf:
 
yay, I got that same problem with CC. I took 2 years in CC and had all my general requirements at CC, also, gen chem 1 & 2, bio 1 & 2, cal 2, calculus-based physics 1 & 2. I had AP Calculus for Cal 1 credits. even though I had 4.0 at CC, I figure out that pharmacy programs dont value CC credits much. and I know lots of people at the same CC with me having high GPA (3.6 and up) do poorly when they get to a 4 year university.
 
amy1209 said:
yay, I got that same problem with CC. I took 2 years in CC and had all my general requirements at CC, also, gen chem 1 & 2, bio 1 & 2, cal 2, calculus-based physics 1 & 2. I had AP Calculus for Cal 1 credits. even though I had 4.0 at CC, I figure out that pharmacy programs dont value CC credits much. and I know lots of people at the same CC with me having high GPA (3.6 and up) do poorly when they get to a 4 year university.
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It has nothing to with enhanced social life of 4 year vs. 2 year right?
 
craig1212 said:
perhaps its time you realize your not "pharmacy material",,,but dont worry maybe you'll have better luck getting into truck driving school...:luck: good luck

- ps if that doesn't work out you might have a bright future in janitorial work👍
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Getting into Pharmacy school is not an issue. My GPA is pretty high and my PCAT (1st timer) is within the "competitive" range. Check yourself before making such comments since I did not post this thread in the "PRE-MEDICAL" forums and did not ask for your opinion either. What the f**k is wrong with these *******z? 😡
 
amy1209 said:
yay, I got that same problem with CC. I took 2 years in CC and had all my general requirements at CC, also, gen chem 1 & 2, bio 1 & 2, cal 2, calculus-based physics 1 & 2. I had AP Calculus for Cal 1 credits. even though I had 4.0 at CC, I figure out that pharmacy programs dont value CC credits much. and I know lots of people at the same CC with me having high GPA (3.6 and up) do poorly when they get to a 4 year university.
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That is not the norm across the board. I think it is a matter of adapting to the new environment and studing more when you get to the university level.
 
Once again (in case you overlooked it in a prev. post), I took the wrong Biology course. I took one for non-science majors instead of the one for science majors. At the time, the bio for non-science majors was the only bio course offered. UT does accept science credits from CCs but the numbering has to be the same to transfer. They require 1406 and 1407 and I took 1408 and 1409. Hope that clears it up. So I will definitely have to retake Bio but I will make sure I take the one for science majors instead. Hopefully I won't run into any other problems as far as credits go.
 
phathead said:
I am quite tempted to send you a bottle now lol

I bought my best friend a bottle of Johnnie Walker Blue Label when he got engaged a few months back. Itchin' for him to crack that bad boy open
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Mmm. I have never had one of those before. Hell, I have never heard of it before until now. :laugh:
 
TnTpharmD said:
22 Credits?!? Most schools (probably all) have a cap at 18 credits persemiester. Unless you do the remainder somehwere else. But damn, 18 credits is allow of work. Did 14 credits once (just to see what it was like as a Chem Major junior yr) and I barley kept myself afloat (A:B ratio 1:2). Exams every 2 weeks per class, projects papers due per class, Cumulative exams in the end (back to back and some on thesame day). That semiester just flew by.

Keep ur head up delano2000. Maintain that great GPA, ur just one yr away man.

Thumbs up for Johnnie Walker (black) + sweet natural coconut water. So...so clean.
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Some schools cap at around ~17 credits or so, but they allow you to get your schedule waived to include more hours if the adviser or dean signs off. My school allowed over 20 credits I believe, but that's probably because they charge $1480/credit hour... so if you have to retake over summer or something you're done. 🙁
 
Tinkerbell22 said:
Some schools cap at around ~17 credits or so, but they allow you to get your schedule waived to include more hours if the adviser or dean signs off. My school allowed over 20 credits I believe, but that's probably because they charge $1480/credit hour... so if you have to retake over summer or something you're done. 🙁
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Damn....that is freaking expensive. For a semester I would be paying a little over $25,000. 😱
 
delano2000 said:
:laugh:

I think that was when he was in Iraq.
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lol that's why it was funny when he said "yeah i've never been to another country or anything"

In Miami the men only drink Johnny Walker black label. lol When I was waitressing, if someone ordered whiskey in a spanish accent (yeah I know it's really scotch) we had to get them JW black label. lol

My great grandmother is turning 102 in a couple weeks so my uncle bought her a bottle of Glenlivit 18 for Thanksgiving. She has to have one Rob Roy per day. haha
 
Tinkerbell22 said:
lol that's why it was funny when he said "yeah i've never been to another country or anything"

In Miami the men only drink Johnny Walker black label. lol When I was waitressing, if someone ordered whiskey in a spanish accent (yeah I know it's really scotch) we had to get them JW black label. lol

My great grandmother is turning 102 in a couple weeks so my uncle bought her a bottle of Glenlivit 18 for Thanksgiving. She has to have one Rob Roy per day. haha
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:laugh:

So that is what it really is then. Congrats. My great grandmothers died back in the 80s and 90s. She is drinking at that age?
 
delano2000 said:
Damn....that is freaking expensive. For a semester I would be paying a little over $25,000. 😱
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Well full time tuition is a flat rate and I had a 3/4 scholarship, plus Florida Bright Futures full state scholarship courtesy of the lotto, so I didn't have to pay out of pocket... BUT the one time I took a summer class it cost $4,050 and my parents were thirty eight hot because I told them my scholarship would cover it (what an idiot) and come to find out it was only good for 8 semesters so it was either that, or pay for the full Spring semester before I graduated. 😱
 
Tinkerbell22 said:
lol that's why it was funny when he said "yeah i've never been to another country or anything"

In Miami the men only drink Johnny Walker black label. lol When I was waitressing, if someone ordered whiskey in a spanish accent (yeah I know it's really scotch) we had to get them JW black label. lol

My great grandmother is turning 102 in a couple weeks so my uncle bought her a bottle of Glenlivit 18 for Thanksgiving. She has to have one Rob Roy per day. haha
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LOL, I used italics to hopefully denote the sarcasm in that I've never been to another country =]

It's so crazy... all of my grandparents are dead... I'm so envious of people with extended families.
 
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