Florida Schools Application Thread (2008) part 2

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Sounds like the only school that no one wants to move from is USF 😀. Honestly, I think that is pretty normal. Faculty and staff come and go based on better offers they receive at other universities. Most faculty do not work their way up at one school instead they hop from one school to the next. That being said I think it is a good sign when professors have been there for 10+ years. It means they are really happy with the program.

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No but we have some professors who've retired or passed away recently. We had an anatomy professor or something like that that passed away this year. We also had the chair of the molecular medicine department leave because he's retiring. He was real nice, though he stuttered too much. He was a professor in our bch class last semester. We did have a pharm professor who left for Arkansas after a bbetter offer though. He was year a few years ago when I took an ugrad pharm class at the med school. Now he's up there. But we have pretty good professors around USF and its pretty stable with the administration. Its like a big family from what I can see.
 
One more thing, as far as rankings go. I hope no one thinks that any of the Florida schools will magically jump into the top 10 of rankings or anything like that. If you look at the lists, the research money that the "established schools" bring in, so far out paces everyone else, that they are pretty much entrenched at the top. The top 25 seems "set," they may bounce around a little but as individual schools, they are top tier, and won't budge any time soon. For a school outside of the range, it would be an achievement just to rise a few places.

Agreed I think both are good schools and will get you where you want. Both have a good research reputation and clinicals and both have locations in major cities in Fl. so diversity will be there. By diversity I mean diversity in patient cases and populations to expose you to a different variety of cases.
 
1) Can USF med students use all the facilites of the main university including gym, library, student unions, ect ?

2) How close are the main university gym and library to the med school ?

3) Where do the med students study when they are on campus ? I didnt see many places for the med students to study while on campus ? Is there some places to study until midnight ?

4) Where do USF student park their cars on campus ?

5) Is there a cafeteria available in/near the med school ? Can you buy lunch and dinner or do you just bring your own food and heat it up in a micro ?


Thank you everyone ! I cant wait for school to start !
 
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1) Can USF med students use all the facilites of the main university including gym, library, student unions, ect ?

2) How close are the main university gym and library to the med school ?

3) Where do the med students study when they are on campus ? I didnt see many places for the med students to study while on campus ? Is there some places to study until midnight ?

4) Where do USF student park their cars on campus ?

5) Is there a cafeteria available in/near the med school ? Can you buy lunch and dinner or do you just bring your own food and heat it up in a micro ?


Thank you everyone ! I cant wait for school to start !


1) Yes you can even go to the student union center to print fr free 30 pages a day in black and white or 10 color printing pages and 2 black and white. The main campus is a shuttle ride away. You can walk there but its like a 15-20 min walk.

2)/3) Again its on the other side of campus. A shuttle ride over. The med school has its own med library and gym for med students. Most med students use the med library or their stations in the histo labs or the nickel's study lounge that is open 24/7 or the kitchen lounge or the lounge witht eh big couches or they go home ad study there or off campus at Starbucks and places like that. Med students have 24/7 lounges one of which isa study lounge where they can study or they can go into the classroom buildings in the med school and the histo labs and what not. they have access to the med school 24/7 including the research building which ahs break rooms. The med lib is open til 12 on weekends before 1st and 2nd year exams on the sunday before the exam. but otherwise open til 11pm.

4) Most of the parking is behind Moffitt.

5) Moffitt has a cafetaria so there's one there. The VA has a cafeteria, Moffitt also has Nander's Cafe in the research building across the street from the hospital. You can go on the main campus for more food places or out to eat as Panera is across the street from campus as is one of the malls and other restaurants.
 
Did anybody get an email from the UF admissions office yesterday with an application to enter the lottery for UF football tickets? The email said you can enter the lottery even if you haven't been accepted, which seemed sort of strange. I am on hold at UF and wouldn't want to apply for tickets if I don't know I will even be accepted.
 
i got that email. Yah that is strange, but i think you get your money back if you dont get the tickets. I think she's just keeping all options open. hope its good luck for us!
 
Did anybody get an email from the UF admissions office yesterday with an application to enter the lottery for UF football tickets? The email said you can enter the lottery even if you haven't been accepted, which seemed sort of strange. I am on hold at UF and wouldn't want to apply for tickets if I don't know I will even be accepted.

Not sure what to think of that e-mail. I figured you'd need an ID# to enter the lottery. In any case, the first years are looking out for us, which is great!

My understanding of the lottery for football tickets is priority goes to students with more credits. Hence, undergrads who end up in grad school at UF tend to get tickets. First year MDs who went to undergrad elsewhere have a lower chance. First year MDs who didn't enter lottery essentially have no chance. On the flip side, it's not hard to find tickets if you want to go to a game...students give up tickets all the time.

In all seriousness though, my only concern right now is being accepted to UF, not getting tickets for next years games! This wait is painful.
 
i got that email. Yah that is strange, but i think you get your money back if you dont get the tickets. I think she's just keeping all options open. hope its good luck for us!

Are you waitlisted or on hold at UF?? They give decisions starting the 15th if you are on hold. Did you get that email about that? My friend got an email like that.
 
i dont think anybody is waitlisted at uf to this point. they're are all on hold. The waitlist will be populated around the 15th. im on hold. i also got that email staying that they will mail out acceptances, waitlists, and rejections on the 15th. here to more waiting!
 
I interviewed at Miami in late January, GW in mid-march. I heard back from GW a week and a half later, despite them saying it would take 6-8 weeks. I liked the looks of GW and their track programs and don't mind their long class hours, but the thing that throws me off about the program is I know a few people in it that really hate the school and think it doesn't set them up well. At the same time, the guy I'm living with in Miami says the same thing about UM.

I live in DC right now and love it, not so sure how I feel about Miami, but I also think it is about time to get out of DC. The problem is the girl, isn't it always? She lives here, things have quickly gotten serious, and now I have to make a game time decision. There are always more fish in the sea, and I like Latina girls so Miami gets a thumbs up, but, man, I didn't see this even becoming an issue. I guess I should just be happy I have decisions like this to make.

Aaaaand there's the money. Miami is a little cheaper, but it sure would help if they would give me a diversity scholarship or something. Not easy to pull in as a white male, but we'll see.

Oh, and I'm leaving the country in a month, so add that stress into the mix. Last long surf trip before the schooling begins!
 
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im still on the "class is temporarily full. This was caused in large part by the AAMC ?traffic rule?" alternate list....pretty sure it's my last shot at this cycle. Apparently there are 2 alternate lists and alternate list emails. Does anyone happen to know the breakdown of how many are on placed on which and the chances of being accepted (like USF's 1/3 high chance, 1/3 eh chance, and 1/3 low chance)?
 
I interviewed at Miami in late January, GW in mid-march. I heard back from GW a week and a half later, despite them saying it would take 6-8 weeks. I liked the looks of GW and their track programs and don't mind their long class hours, but the thing that throws me off about the program is I know a few people in it that really hate the school and think it doesn't set them up well. At the same time, the guy I'm living with in Miami says the same thing about UM.

I live in DC right now and love it, not so sure how I feel about Miami, but I also think it is about time to get out of DC. The problem is the girl, isn't it always? She lives here, things have quickly gotten serious, and now I have to make a game time decision. There are always more fish in the sea, and I like Latina girls so Miami gets a thumbs up, but, man, I didn't see this even becoming an issue. I guess I should just be happy I have decisions like this to make.

Aaaaand there's the money. Miami is a little cheaper, but it sure would help if they would give me a diversity scholarship or something. Not easy to pull in as a white male, but we'll see.

Oh, and I'm leaving the country in a month, so add that stress into the mix. Last long surf trip before the schooling begins!

Why dont you schedule to come down for a self arranged 2nd look with admissions office? Plus, see if you can bring your girlfriend down and maybe convince her to move to Miami. If not then hey, the latinas really are amazing....
 
Thank you everyone ! I cant wait for school to start !

It's great to see your enthusiasm. The next 4 years will be a time of great overall growth, not just in how much you know from a medical standpoint. I'd like to think I am a much different person now than when I started as an overall human being. You'll see and hear things about patients that changes you forever. Med school is a seemingly long road (looking forward from your perspective), but completely worth it.
 
Not sure what to think of that e-mail. I figured you'd need an ID# to enter the lottery. In any case, the first years are looking out for us, which is great!

My understanding of the lottery for football tickets is priority goes to students with more credits. Hence, undergrads who end up in grad school at UF tend to get tickets. First year MDs who went to undergrad elsewhere have a lower chance. First year MDs who didn't enter lottery essentially have no chance. On the flip side, it's not hard to find tickets if you want to go to a game...students give up tickets all the time.

In all seriousness though, my only concern right now is being accepted to UF, not getting tickets for next years games! This wait is painful.

There is a system that gives an advantage to students who've been there longer, but actually, you have a very good chance of getting tickets even if you're a first year. I got them my first year, and so did everyone I knew as a first year. I've actually only talked to one or two people, ever, who entered the lottery and did not get tickets.
 
i dont think anybody is waitlisted at uf to this point. they're are all on hold. The waitlist will be populated around the 15th. im on hold. i also got that email staying that they will mail out acceptances, waitlists, and rejections on the 15th. here to more waiting!

Asked Robyn about this:
The alternates referred to in the email are those that are going to be put on the waitlist after April 15th. No one has been waitlisted yet.
 
It's great to see your enthusiasm. The next 4 years will be a time of great overall growth, not just in how much you know from a medical standpoint. I'd like to think I am a much different person now than when I started as an overall human being. You'll see and hear things about patients that changes you forever. Med school is a seemingly long road (looking forward from your perspective), but completely worth it.

I think that is true of any schooling or life experience. I was reading a poem by a friend that she wrote at 14 years old. That poem was so powerful and had so much wisdom in it that you'd never expect of someone at that age but it was about life and saying that our first education is from our family and surroundings.

I think the experiences we have in college change us from who we were in highschool and we grow as a person overall and the same is said of med school. That only adds to our growth as a person. I'd agree that med school is a long road but you know the funny thing is with the amt of work you have, time flies faster then you can imagine.

I used to chat with a 4th year from Miami on here when I first joined SDN and now he's about to graduate. feels like yesterday he was being a mod starting the chat threads we have in the mcat forum, and then suddenly before we knew it he was taking the boards and now suddenly he's graduating. Time flew like nothing.
 
1) Yes you can even go to the student union center to print fr free 30 pages a day in black and white or 10 color printing pages and 2 black and white. The main campus is a shuttle ride away. You can walk there but its like a 15-20 min walk.

2)/3) Again its on the other side of campus. A shuttle ride over. The med school has its own med library and gym for med students. Most med students use the med library or their stations in the histo labs or the nickel's study lounge that is open 24/7 or the kitchen lounge or the lounge witht eh big couches or they go home ad study there or off campus at Starbucks and places like that. Med students have 24/7 lounges one of which isa study lounge where they can study or they can go into the classroom buildings in the med school and the histo labs and what not. they have access to the med school 24/7 including the research building which ahs break rooms. The med lib is open til 12 on weekends before 1st and 2nd year exams on the sunday before the exam. but otherwise open til 11pm.

4) Most of the parking is behind Moffitt.

5) Moffitt has a cafetaria so there's one there. The VA has a cafeteria, Moffitt also has Nander's Cafe in the research building across the street from the hospital. You can go on the main campus for more food places or out to eat as Panera is across the street from campus as is one of the malls and other restaurants.

I also forgot to mention that there are 5 conference rooms to study at which you can reserve with educational affairs. There are conference rooms in the library too if you want to study with a group or do presentations with a group
 
I think that is true of any schooling or life experience. I was reading a poem by a friend that she wrote at 14 years old. That poem was so powerful and had so much wisdom in it that you'd never expect of someone at that age but it was about life and saying that our first education is from our family and surroundings.

I think the experiences we have in college change us from who we were in highschool and we grow as a person overall and the same is said of med school. That only adds to our growth as a person. I'd agree that med school is a long road but you know the funny thing is with the amt of work you have, time flies faster then you can imagine.

I used to chat with a 4th year from Miami on here when I first joined SDN and now he's about to graduate. feels like yesterday he was being a mod starting the chat threads we have in the mcat forum, and then suddenly before we knew it he was taking the boards and now suddenly he's graduating. Time flew like nothing.

I agree, but the change you undergo in med school is unlike any other. I say this because of how much you learn about life in general. Your patients will be your greatest teachers. You will learn to view life differently after hearing the stories of the sick for whom you will care. There is no other time in your life until now when people will tell you things about their lives that they have told no one else EVER.
 
I agree, but the change you undergo in med school is unlike any other. I say this because of how much you learn about life in general. Your patients will be your greatest teachers. You will learn to view life differently after hearing the stories of the sick for whom you will care. There is no other time in your life until now when people will tell you things about their lives that they have told no one else EVER.

True you do make a point. The doctor patient relationship is definitely a unique one.
 
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I have been out of school for two years so I want to start covering some material that will be useful for medical school. The first science class taken by M1 students is "Molecular Medicine." If any USF students have materials for that class I would be grateful if you would share them. Even if you only have the syllabus I would be grateful ! Thank you !
 
My understanding of the lottery for football tickets is priority goes to students with more credits. Hence, undergrads who end up in grad school at UF tend to get tickets. First year MDs who went to undergrad elsewhere have a lower chance. First year MDs who didn't enter lottery essentially have no chance. On the flip side, it's not hard to find tickets if you want to go to a game...students give up tickets all the time.

Although there is a priority system, I have gotten tickets every year that I applyed for them including my freshman year. I would suggest getting them. I personally love football, but if you dont, then you can make good money selling your tickets for games. I have seen a single ticket go for $100, which is more than season tickets cost. Also, if you dont get season tickets and you want to go to a more popular game, you options will be spending a lot or watching it on your couch.

This is my second year at UF and my sisters 5th (1st year of law). We both have gotten season tickets every year with no problem. I do see students SELLING tickets all the time. Also, if you can, find someone in the law school and join the law school football block. They have the best seats in the student section every game.
 
I have been out of school for two years so I want to start covering some material that will be useful for medical school. The first science class taken by M1 students is "Molecular Medicine." If any USF students have materials for that class I would be grateful if you would share them. Even if you only have the syllabus I would be grateful ! Thank you !


Wise words of advice:

Enjoy your vacation and free time while it lasts. Whether you've been out of school for 10 years or been in school for the last few years and are a traditional student nothing prepares you for the intensity of medical school. Even if you start learning it now you will forget it againa nd have to relearn it. I've been told by Mrs. Suzanne Jackson that even the IMS students who've had to repeat the same courses officially as a med student forget it all and have to relearn it all again.
 
Found the article thought it would be appropriate for those who are attending or applying to UFCOM.

http://www.gainesvillesun.com/article/20080404/NEWS/804040366/1007/NEWS


Dean admits student without backing


By JACK STRIPLING
Sun staff writer
12:15 am, April 4, 2008
In a move that breaks with the norms established by medical school accreditors, the dean of the University of Florida's College of Medicine has opted to admit a student from a politically connected family, even though the student didn't have the backing of the Medical Selection Committee.

Dr. Bruce Kone, dean of UF's College of Medicine, says he felt justified in breaking with the committee because the candidate was "exceptional."
"I certainly respected all of the decisions of the admissions committee, up until one," Kone said.

Kone wouldn't name the student, but sources close to the situation identified him as Benjamin Mendelsohn, the son of Dr. Alan Mendelsohn, a Hollywood ophthalmologist and a Republican fundraiser who was a grassroots organizer for Gov. Charlie Crist during his 2006 campaign.

"I can't even comment that there were any political connections that this person had, but I certainly wasn't influenced by any outside forces," Kone said Thursday.

"There was no political influence related to this thing," Kone added in a second interview Thursday night. "There never will be. There never has been. This was an exceptional student, and I wish to God I could even tell you about (the student's) credentials."

Before Kone took over as dean in May 2007, Gov. Crist sent a letter to UF in February 2007 on Mendelsohn's behalf. The letter, addressed to UF's admissions officer and copied to UF President Bernie Machen, urged UF to admit Mendelsohn to the Junior Honors Medical Program, an accelerated seven-year program that combines bachelor's and medical degrees.

"I have known Benjamin and his family for several years and know that
Benjamin's affiliation with the University of Florida will mutually enhance the reputation of both Benjamin and the Medical Program," Crist's letter states.
According to Kone, he never saw the letter, which he said was not included in Mendelsohn's file for his current application.

In 2006, the Mendelsohn family gave at least $33,257 to political candidates, 94 percent of which went directly to Republicans, according to the Florida Department of State's Division of Elections. Of that money, $1,682 went to Crist, including a $500 donation from Benjamin Mendelsohn himself.

Alan Mendelsohn is a known fundraiser in the medical community. In 2005, he held a fundraiser in his own home where more than 150 physicians raised more than $100,000 for Crist, according to a news release from the Florida Medical Political Action Committee.

Benjamin Mendelsohn, who attended Northwestern University as an undergraduate, declined to comment for this story, and efforts to reach his father were unsuccessful Thursday.

Kone said he thought he was within his rights to admit a student absent committee support, but the move breaks with procedures described by the Liaison Committee on Medical Education, which provides accreditation to UF and medical schools throughout the U.S. and Canada.

"The final responsibility for selecting students to be admitted for medical study must reside with a duly constituted faculty committee," according to the accrediting body's standards.

Furthermore, the accreditation standards say "the selection of individual students must not be influenced by any political or financial factors."
Barbara Barzansky, co-secretary of the Liaison Committee on Medical Education at the American Medical Association in Chicago, said the central role of faculty in admissions is well-established in the medical community.

"I think the standard speaks for itself. It expects that there be a faculty decision around admission," she said.
"Deans may be under pressure from groups, alums, sometimes the Legislature, depending on the type of school and the location," she added.
Dr. Craig Tisher, former dean of UF's College of Medicine, said he never broke with Ira Gessner, chairman of the Medical Selection Committee.

"During the five years that I was dean, I did not go against the wishes of the admissions committee," Tisher said. "I let them make the selections, and I relied upon the judgment of the people who were interviewing the students and the chairman of the admissions committee, Dr. Gessner. All I can tell you is I didn't exercise that prerogative (to overrule the committee), if in fact that prerogative exists."

Members of the 53-person Selection Committee who spoke to The Sun describe the process of screening applicants as similar to that of a jury deliberation. After the candidate is interviewed by a small number of committee members, those committee members then give a presentation to a larger committee group about the applicant.

Committee members are then asked to rank the candidate, based on a scale of one to 10 - 10 being the highest - on their assessment of the applicant.
The chairman of the committee uses this feedback to determine admissions.
Kone would not disclose the score Mendelsohn received, and the committee's chairman declined to comment for this story.

UF received 2,783 medical school applications this year, according to the university's admissions office. The class is limited to 135 seats.
Jack Stripling can be reached at 352-374-5064 or [email protected].

Haha heads up for those still on hold or even flat out rejected -- apparently cronyism with a dash of nepotism doesn't hurt :laugh:
 
hey guys,

i wanted to know if you guys have any input/advice/words of wisdom regarding the fsu interview. How stressful is it, what to look forward to, what type of general questions there are, and most importantly what is the turn around date from interview to status notification? Thanks

p.s.--- im asking for a friend.
 
hey guys,

i wanted to know if you guys have any input/advice/words of wisdom regarding the fsu interview. How stressful is it, what to look forward to, what type of general questions there are, and most importantly what is the turn around date from interview to status notification? Thanks

p.s.--- im asking for a friend.


IS FSU still giving out interviews? USF???
 
hey guys,

i wanted to know if you guys have any input/advice/words of wisdom regarding the fsu interview. How stressful is it, what to look forward to, what type of general questions there are, and most importantly what is the turn around date from interview to status notification? Thanks

p.s.--- im asking for a friend.

My FSU interview was very pleasant. There were almost no typical interview questions asked...for the most part they just asked me about myself, my family, my background, why I wanted to practice medicine, and why I wanted to go to FSU. Not stressful at all.

As far as turn around time goes...that is very difficult to answer at this point. FSU reviews each applicant's file multiple times (at least twice) post-interview, instead of immediately making a decision or placing an applicant on the WL. In addition, they have lost some faculty that were previously instrumental in the admissions process. That, coupled with the fact that they've had a greatly increased number of applicants this cycle, means that they have fewer (efficient) resources to devote to a greater number of applicants. As a result, I would say turn around time is pretty unpredictable. I can tell you, though, that I interviewed on Feb. 25 and was accepted just over a month later.
 
My FSU interview was very pleasant. There were almost no typical interview questions asked...for the most part they just asked me about myself, my family, my background, why I wanted to practice medicine, and why I wanted to go to FSU. Not stressful at all.

As far as turn around time goes...that is very difficult to answer at this point. FSU reviews each applicant's file multiple times (at least twice) post-interview, instead of immediately making a decision or placing an applicant on the WL. In addition, they have lost some faculty that were previously instrumental in the admissions process. That, coupled with the fact that they've had a greatly increased number of applicants this cycle, means that they have fewer (efficient) resources to devote to a greater number of applicants. As a result, I would say turn around time is pretty unpredictable. I can tell you, though, that I interviewed on Feb. 25 and was accepted just over a month later.


thanks! is it true that fsu gives all of its accepted students a laptop, and pda?
 
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Plus, you have to give them back at the end of your 4 years which means you can't sell them and make some money back.

Most people aren't going to be buying old computers when there are affordable new computers that are basic and better and faster by that time.
 
Most people aren't going to be buying old computers when there are affordable new combers that are basic and better and faster by that time.

That's true, but sometimes you can sell them for their parts on ebay. I'm sure any little bit of money helps when heading into residency.
 
any other fsu interview advice/insight would be greatly appreciated...

thanks!

The best thing to do is to be honest with why that person wants to go to FSU. A lot of people tend to apply there because their MCAT and GPA correlate with their average, and don't really agree with their philosophy; the interviewers can see through this. I have a friend who was rejected post-interview because he didn't want to practice according to the vision of FSU.

They truly go above and beyond to get to know you as a prospective medical student at their college of medicine. They are the first school I went to that specifically arranged interviewers based on my AMCAS/Secondary App (e.g., I was interested in a particular internal med. subspeciality, and they paired me with a professor who teaches in that field).

It may seem simple enough, but the best advice for your friend is to be honest with his/her intentions to practice in underserved areas; it is the best way to see whether he/she truly fits well with that school.

Hope this helps. Good luck!
 
Who knew that there are other ways into UF Med besides a great GPA and MCAT. Have the dean do you a favor in regards to the governor's political campaign, and you're in!! This is really disconcerting, and it will have the effect of cheapening UF's reputation.

Yeah, I didn't know it was possible to make it into any Junior Honors/Accelerated program without being an undergrad at that school. This kid better be "exceptional" because the kids I've known who made into Junior Honors were brilliant. How about the first day of school next year, when you walk into class, and everyone's giving you that sideways glance? Supposedly, stuff like this happens all the time, but it must have been pretty bad if the Selection Committee was willing to speak up about it. Something makes me think that this story isn't over yet.
 
Yeah, I didn't know it was possible to make it into any Junior Honors/Accelerated program without being an undergrad at that school. This kid better be "exceptional" because the kids I've known who made into Junior Honors were brilliant. How about the first day of school next year, when you walk into class, and everyone's giving you that sideways glance? Supposedly, stuff like this happens all the time, but it must have been pretty bad if the Selection Committee was willing to speak up about it. Something makes me think that this story isn't over yet.

I always thought the Junior honors program is the most competitive of its kind in the state. Apparently the cost for anyone to buy their way into it is approx. $102K to a politician. And now that it is public, I am sure it will be really awkward for him and other students. I assume the student wants to go into optho, and I wonder if the governor and Dean will also push him into a residency at shands.
 
I was curious as to what UF's Junior Honors Program was so I went to their website and found this.

The Junior Honors Medical Program (JHMP) is a combined (seven year) B.S./M.D. program. The program was created for University of Florida students. However, students who are Florida residents attending other competitve, four-year institutions are welcome to apply. This program is intended for undergraduate students who have demonstrated superior scholastic ability and personal development during their first two academic years of college enrollment. Applications are taken in the second year of college enrollment. The average college GPA is 3.94, average SAT 1469.

Looks like you can technically be admitted even if you aren't currently attending UF. Wonder if this guys stats are anywhere close to the averages listed.
 
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I was curious as to what UF's Junior Honors Program was so I went to their website and found this.

The Junior Honors Medical Program (JHMP) is a combined (seven year) B.S./M.D. program. The program was created for University of Florida students. However, students who are Florida residents attending other competitve, four-year institutions are welcome to apply. This program is intended for undergraduate students who have demonstrated superior scholastic ability and personal development during their first two academic years of college enrollment. Applications are taken in the second year of college enrollment. The average college GPA is 3.94, average SAT 1469.

Looks like you can technically be admitted even if you aren't currently attending UF. Wonder if this guys stats are anywhere close to the averages listed.

Really, I had no idea it was like that. Is this how it's always been or is this new? When I was there, I was under the impression that is was only meant for UF students who were attending the Honors College.

Also, If the guy is so great as the Dean says, then why did the committee not endorse the student. And isn't Junior Honors limited to a few number of students, (I think 15 students) so was another deserving junior pushed out of the program to make room for this student. Also, I think the whole thing with Crist writing a letter to endorse him is outright favoritism and distasteful for an elected official, given the amount that was raised for the governor by the student's family.

This area in North Fl is stereotyped for having "Good Ole Boys" economics, so having the Dean of UF Med live up to it is disconcerting.
 
Who knew that there are other ways into UF Med besides a great GPA and MCAT. Have the dean do you a favor in regards to the governor's political campaign, and you're in!! This is really disconcerting, and it will have the effect of cheapening UF's reputation.

As a current applicant, this is actually pretty disheartening. I'm sure it happens, but too bad for the kid that his name is out there now. If he was "exceptional," wouldn't the Selection Committee have let him in anyways. I hope this story grows a little because it's not fair to individuals such as myself who are stressfully waiting to hear from UF.
 
The Jr. Honors talk is moot now. He got DENIED for Jr. Honors by the FORMER DEAN. But he got ADMITTED into REGULAR ADMISSIONS by the CURRENT DEAN -- which means, those of you who plan on matriculating this year as c/o 2012... HE WILL BE IN YOUR CLASS !
 
I wonder if this guy really wants to go to med school? Sounds like being a doctor in his family would be a legacy career. I'm sure he has a ton of pressure on him to succeed.
 
I have been out of school for two years so I want to start covering some material that will be useful for medical school. The first science class taken by M1 students is "Molecular Medicine." If any USF students have materials for that class I would be grateful if you would share them. Even if you only have the syllabus I would be grateful ! Thank you !


This would be a very inefficient use of your time. You don't need to have any prior knowledge to do well in the molecular medicine course, just good aptitude. Enjoy your time before starting and if you want to read anything let me recommend the following:

1. How Doctors Think
2. Complications
3. Better

I know you are excited but it won't help you to start preparing for courses early.
 
I agree, but the change you undergo in med school is unlike any other. I say this because of how much you learn about life in general. Your patients will be your greatest teachers. You will learn to view life differently after hearing the stories of the sick for whom you will care. There is no other time in your life until now when people will tell you things about their lives that they have told no one else EVER.

Let me second what my colleague said - the change you experience during medical school is different than anything else. Of course you grow during any endeavor - and I had a number of such endeavors before starting med school - but this development will be completely different. You are stepping into a unique world - appreciate that when you get sick of studying and it will see you through.
 
This would be a very inefficient use of your time. You don't need to have any prior knowledge to do well in the molecular medicine course, just good aptitude. Enjoy your time before starting and if you want to read anything let me recommend the following:

1. How Doctors Think
2. Complications
3. Better

I know you are excited but it won't help you to start preparing for courses early.

Right on. I will guarantee you that any studying you do to "prepare" for med school is a complete - I repeat, complete - waste of time. I guess if you're really just purely interested in molecular medicine because it's fascinating to you, go ahead and knock your socks off studying ahead of time. But otherwise ENJOY LIFE. You have enough time during school to learn how to study again and you will have more to study than you ever hoped for soon enough.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if they are still sending out the last few interview invites. They may even send out invites for another 2 or 3 weeks. But based on your mdapps, I can't tell that you have any real ties to Florida. If this is the case, I wouldn't hold my breath. They accept almost no OOS students. Still, an LOI can never hurt.

A letter of intent is unlikely to help get you an interview, but I guess you could try...

They interview til April but if you are accepted elsewhere I'd go elsewhere. I've heard some stuff from current med students that make me question a lot of things about FSU. Send me a PM if you want to know what I'm talking about.

mdgator: no very close ties, but a great deal of my father's family lives in Orlando....they would be closer family if they lived closer to Tennessee, I think.

mikedc: I may send an email of intent and ask when they're wrapping it up.

gujuDoc: I'm sending you a PM....I've fallen in love with KCUMB (it's an awesome DO school)....but i'm keeping my options open. If you can tell me something that would make me close the FSU door, I'm one step closer to closing the deal with KC.

All: Thanks for the input! The kids on the South Carolina thread were not so helpful....no one responded!
 
Right on. I will guarantee you that any studying you do to "prepare" for med school is a complete - I repeat, complete - waste of time. I guess if you're really just purely interested in molecular medicine because it's fascinating to you, go ahead and knock your socks off studying ahead of time. But otherwise ENJOY LIFE. You have enough time during school to learn how to study again and you will have more to study than you ever hoped for soon enough.

I had already stated this above though no one caught that post, but I'll state it again that I 3rd this sentiment. I am in total agreement with both of you after having talked to several med students over the years. Like I said, even the IMS students who become med students at USF don't feel like just because they did the same stuff last year that it was severely helpful when they had to do it over. They still had to relearn it so the efficiency is nada, none, zilch in studying prior to starting.

The one thing you can do if you really want to is read the death of ivan illych. I couldn't put that book down once i got into it. Definitely a good read and something you read in the first few weeks of school but I'd even put that off and enjoy life as it is because this is the last time you will ever be this free again. Oh and this summer take time to enjoy it doing whatever you enjoy doing the most.
 
Who knew that there are other ways into UF Med besides a great GPA and MCAT. Have the dean do you a favor in regards to the governor's political campaign, and you're in!! This is really disconcerting, and it will have the effect of cheapening UF's reputation.

Nah, UF's reputation was already cheap in my mind. I've already discussed my views with the way UF runs its admissions game before. This move is on par with the Florida attitude.

On an unrelated note, I just got back in town today. I'll be replying to my emails in the next few days.
 
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