Heme/Onc Fellowship Application Thread

[endodoc]

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Are any of you applying to non match IM subs?

 

[ursus]

Interview from University of Florida at Miami that I will probably unable to attend. They just gave me one interview date. 🙁

 

[vrgk]

Any one heard from univ of rochester ?
vrgk

 

[chemo-man]

Hi H,

Hope things are going well for you. I got an interview from USC/LAC in Cali. Do u know anything about the program. ANy input is grately appreciated.

Thanks for your help, and good luck.
👍

 

[clueless1]

Hi guys...I've appreciated reading about your exploits along the application/interview process. Thanks to all for sharing. As a potential interview candidate this time next year, can anyone give me some input as to which months I should try to clear off in my schedule for interviews? We are in the process of negotiating schedules at my program right now, and I'd just like to know what month most interviews occur in. February? March? Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?

Thanks, as always, for the input!

 

[swinske]

Any one heard from univ of rochester ?
vrgk

Interviewed of university of minessota waste of time...... they are interviewing 55 plus candidates for 6 spots. two faculty members to interview will interview for 5 mins.......... all people in my group complaint of same problem..... seem like residency interview...............

overall 👎 👎 experience

 

[drshak77]

Hi H,

Hope things are going well for you. I got an interview from USC/LAC in Cali. Do u know anything about the program. ANy input is grately appreciated.

Thanks for your help, and good luck.
👍

Hey chemo man,
I got a interview there as well,they left a message for me on my phone,
but they didnt say if it was for heme or onc??
Did they tell you??

 

[drshak77]

Does anyone know if you can go into private practice
with oncology fellowship only??
Does it effect your payscale??

Abdur

 

[swinske]

Does anyone know if you can go into private practice
with oncology fellowship only??
Does it effect your payscale??

Abdur

in private practice if you dont have hematology cert affects u reimbersment

 

[drshak77]

USC invite!!, has anyone heard from RUSH?

 

[HDMTX]

Stanford invite via email.

 

[drshak77]

Has anyone interviewed at USC yet?
Does anyone how good the program is therE?????????

 

[swinske]

Has anyone interviewed at USC yet?
Does anyone how good the program is therE?????????

👎

 

[HDMTX]

👎

Everyone's busy interviewing... 😛

Rank Lists open in a few wks!

 

[sanfilippo]

email invite from emory this past week...candidates asked to provide date/time preferences. still haven't heard from the others, so i wish they would just send the rejections as we're nearing APRIL. one applicant i met on a recent interview said he has an interview coming up at wash u, so they must have started giving out invites. based on my last 4 interviews, i have an impression some places are taking a lot of applicants internally or looking at folks with big research backgrounds, including many FMG's, who have had time to spend in the lab.

--S.

 

[HDMTX]

email invite from emory this past week...candidates asked to provide date/time preferences. still haven't heard from the others, so i wish they would just send the rejections as we're nearing APRIL. one applicant i met on a recent interview said he has an interview coming up at wash u, so they must have started giving out invites. based on my last 4 interviews, i have an impression some places are taking a lot of applicants internally or looking at folks with big research backgrounds, including many FMG's, who have had time to spend in the lab.

--S.

Congratz SF. How've interviews been going? My last 3 coming up are in CA.

 

[drshak77]

USC interview, the hospital was decent but huge county
hospital.
3 more to go.

 

[HDMTX]

Anyone ever hear from Harbor-UCLA?

 

[sanfilippo]

i've been to osu, pitt and colorado. anyone care to share his or her experiences at thsoe places or elsewhere? 🙂

 

[HDMTX]

i've been to osu, pitt and colorado. anyone care to share his or her experiences at thsoe places or elsewhere? 🙂

Interviews winding down, everyone constructing a rank list of some sort? Anyone NOT ranking a program they interviewed at?

 

[chemo-man]

Hi SF,

I have interview at Pitt coming up. What was ur interview experience, and do you see yourself as a fellow there. Is it as academic as the NIH ranking stands (I guess in terms of funding). Thanx for ur input, and GL with the interviews and match, I really appreciate ur help.

 

[CanIMakeIt]

Hi all,

I am a first year. Can someone please explain the difference between a Rad Onc doc and a Heme Onc doc as far as patient contact, diseases seen, and treaatment plans overseen .... and basically what each one does in daily routine.

Thanks.

 

[docindi1]

Hi, I see everyone here is into the application process so much. Would be really helpful if could give some tips as to what people look in an application to invite them to an interview. Will be applying next year.Good luck to everyone who is in the arena this year! 🙂

 

[chemo-man]

Hi Everybody,

Recently it has been so lull after a spurge of excitement about the interviews, programs etc etc. Seems most of them are done (or almost!) with their interviews. Just wondering if there is anything else we can be discussing. DId any of you get any sort of a feedback from the programs via e-mail or phone etc...Just wondering....
GL to everyone.... 👍

 

[me12345]

are you paying the 650$ non member registration fee or the discounted fee. I called today and they said only the oncology residents! qualify for the discounted rate.

 

[swinske]

are you paying the 650$ non member registration fee or the discounted fee. I called today and they said only the oncology residents! qualify for the discounted rate.

Got a call from Louisiana shreveport.... i gthink they are the one of the last prog to interview

 

[HDMTX]

WooHoo, done with interviews, FINALLY! 😀

 

[ursus]

Done with interviews too. 😀. Can not believe it.

 

[signomi]

I am a little late to the game here. I applied to only one program at the last minute in march. Suffice it to say it has been mentioned here. Surprisingly I did get an interview. I'm hoping to be one of those atypical lucky bastards who applies to only one desired program and manages to match. They were interviewing 140 people for 4-5 spots.

They had mentioned when I was there that they were thinking of notifying "people of interest" before the actual match event, which we all know is a violation of the match. I was wondering if anyone had heard from any programs to the effect that they were ranking them. You don't need to give names. I am trying to decide if they realized it was a violation of the match and a bad idea or if I am not a "person of interest."

 

[vrgk]

Hai all,
Did any one of you recieve any sort of feedback from the programs ?
vrgk

 

[BMT]

Yes I did from one midwest program. They said that I need to register with the NRMP as the PD wanted to rank me. I actually thot I would reg later....
But after the email, I reg that same night and got an email the next day saying the PD ranked me!!! Does that mean Its a good sign. I guess it is. Hoping for the best, BMT 😉

 

[ursus]

I got a feedback from two programs where I was told that I would be ranked in the top 1/3 of the rank list 👍 . That is it so far.
Good luck.

Yes I did from one midwest program. They said that I need to register with the NRMP as the PD wanted to rank me. I actually thot I would reg later....
But after the email, I reg that same night and got an email the next day saying the PD ranked me!!! Does that mean Its a good sign. I guess it is. Hoping for the best, BMT 😉

 

[signomi]

Does anyone know how we find out the match results? Is it by email or snail mail?

 

[vrgk]

Thanks ursus, BMT.
Good luck to all.
vrgk

 

[swinske]

Thanks ursus, BMT.
Good luck to all.
vrgk

Did any body got prematch this year in hem onc??? I did not recieve any feedback in written form by any program about ranking high, which is dissappointing......... did anyone else has same experience

 

[chemo-man]

Same here. I just got an e-mail from a program asking to register with NRMP. No other communication otherwise except for the usual post interview end of the day dialogues (nice meeting you, let us know if you have any q etc etc..) 😕 .

Did any body got prematch this year in hem onc??? I did not recieve any feedback in written form by any program about ranking high, which is dissappointing......... did anyone else has same experience

 

[HDMTX]

Match Day is 12 noon EST on June 21?

 

[signomi]

How do we get those results at noon 6/21? Do we need to check the NRMP site or check our email? Other odd question...we can scramble to any open program right? Even if we never applied there? I am assuming it runs like the residency scramble.

 

[srimti78]

Hi,

Quote from NRMP regarding match violations.

3. A program director asks an applicant how he/she intends to rank the program, and states that the program will rank the applicant only if the applicant agrees to rank the program first on the applicant's rank order list. Although the Match Participation Agreement does not prohibit either an applicant or a program from volunteering how one plans to rank the other, it is a violation of the Match Participation Agreement to request such information.

It is a violation to ask you, but it is not a violation to voluntarily offer their plans on ranking.

 

[signomi]

Okay I see that on the website. Thanks. I am wondering if it is okay to call a program after the rank order lists are closed 6/7 to ask if you were even ranked. As I said earlier I only applied to one program where I live. I have job opportunities that would require me to move out of state. If there is a chance I could match, then I will turn down the job and not move away. I'm not crazy about being unemployed until after 6/21.

Technically after 6/7 neither they nor I could change our lists...any thoughts?

 

[HDMTX]

Just curious if anyone may know of any other applicants who have been offered a prematch... 🙄

 

[ursus]

Just curious if anyone may know of any other applicants who have been offered a prematch... 🙄

Nope, PD at U of New Mexico initially decided to give one prematch and left another spot for the match, but later he changes his mind and both positions will be filled during the match. However, I was told at Baylor that they have 4 positions, but NRMP site shows quota of 3. 😕

 

[HDMTX]

Nope, PD at U of New Mexico initially decided to give one prematch and left another spot for the match, but later he changes his mind and both positions will be filled during the match. However, I was told at Baylor that they have 4 positions, but NRMP site shows quota of 3. 😕

Yah, this is confusing. I've been checking out the quota on the programs I've ranked and some are decreasing and others increasing so I have no idea if at least for those decreasing if prematches were offered or if they traditionally like to hold 1-2 spots out of the match for internal applicants, or whatever... and I guess if a program completes its interview season and wasn't happy with internal apps then they add more spots to the quota which were initially reserved internally and whatever happens happens. Blah, blah blah... fast forward to the 21st already!

 

[signomi]

Where are you checking the quotas? Is there a website?

 

[ursus]

Where are you checking the quotas? Is there a website?

https://services.nrmp.org/R3/Home/Login/Login.cfm

 

[puju]

Hello everybody,

Can you please help me rank these heme/onc programs w.r.t to training, academic potential (research/career development), and likeability etc. I really appreciate your input.
1. Stanford
2. Yale
3. Fred Hutch
4. Penn
5. U Michigan
6. Vanderbilt
7. Mayo

Thanks a lot guys!!

 

[Invicta1]

Hello everybody,

Can you please help me rank these heme/onc programs w.r.t to training, academic potential (research/career development), and likeability etc. I really appreciate your input.
1. Stanford
2. Yale
3. Fred Hutch
4. Penn
5. U Michigan
6. Vanderbilt
7. Mayo

Thanks a lot guys!!

What specifically are you interested in w.r.t. heme/onc?

 

[HDMTX]

Hey all,

Just a curious question... if a program offers say 3 spots, how far down the rank list on average would it go to fill? Let's say this program isn't top notch, but still is competitive.

 

[puju]

I want to keep both the Heme and Onc options open. SO a balanced program would be better, although at this time I am inclined towards heme. ANy thoughts welcome about the above programs mentioned. Thanks a lot....and GL.

 

[germanIMG]

Hello everybody,

Can you please help me rank these heme/onc programs w.r.t to training, academic potential (research/career development), and likeability etc. I really appreciate your input.
1. Stanford
2. Yale
3. Fred Hutch
4. Penn
5. U Michigan
6. Vanderbilt
7. Mayo

Thanks a lot guys!!

If indeed you have interviewed at these places you should have an idea about the differences and probably also an idea about your interests, which ultimatly would reflect your ranking.
In general, for fellowship even more so then for residency, rankings don't really make sense, as it is more about your individual goals....
Factors that may influence your ranking are:
1.hematology vs oncology vs double boad
specially at some of the stronger programs there is a puch for single board. MSKCC for example makes ot rather hard to double board. others are stronger in heme then on onc or vice versa

2. clinical vs basic research
MDAnderson for example is a great place for clinical research, but not that great for basic research

3. practise vs academics
Fox Chase is a great clinical training program but not academic
Dana Farber is maybe the best research program, but not that great of a clinical training program

4. specific research interests
different institutions may have an edge in certain fields over others. (i will elaborate on that)

5. location or any other factors (family etc...)

now to your programs...i can not comment on Vanderbilt or Mayo
Stanford
small program, clinical focus malignant heme and BMT..if these are your interest great place, otherwise there are better ones in Cali (UCLA or UCSF)

Yale
they try to revamp their training progra..at this moment not a top program( not even close), but double board with integrated training. research opportunities multiple at Yale university, no mentoring, quality of fellows sub-par, but academic institution, thus academic opportunities..probably not even a top 20 program

Fred Hutch

top program,. excellent in malignant heme and BMT( pretty much world class)
small class, world class research opportunities, great atmosphere
top 5-6 program, depending upon your interest probably even higher

Penn
top 4 at east coast, a tit below the top 3, but way above the rest
inegrated heme and onc( excellent heme), excellent basic research (top 3) clinically smaller. not that great in oncology with exceptions are GI, melanoma and breast)(head&neck does not really exist for example), fellows solely from top residencies (I guess it is the ivy league bias)
excellent BMT, but again small, expanding massively, which could go either way ( labor pain, vs post-fellowship opportunities), very friendly and supportive (disclaimer: for my own personal reason my #1)

U MIchigan
excellent clinical program, great research opportunities, good number of Pts, but suffers tremendously from location...does not get top candidates, however, PD extremely involved and motivated