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When Bread is about to flip why would April and sunny bus each other while defending him?
 
WildZoo said:
Sunny never voted for April. I was watching for it.
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Day 1 or 2? Also, why would that be surprising since she was my 3rd strongest wolf read both days. AKA not first.
WildZoo said:
However, I'm not sure April goes packmate sunny in that situation rather than packmate bread. Need to look back at their posts.
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Please do. I welcome it.
 
I still feel that my top 2 suspects, Pippy and sporty, are good suspects.

especially since Pippy claimed April was village, and April tried to slip in that sporty was removed from suspicion based on ??reasons?? (Historically noted, all available in my reads)

I feel somewhat better about WZ now
 
Melchizedek said:
Got antsy D1 when people were voting bread and actively tried to pull them away from voting there.
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I addressed one absent person who made her intention of being there clear. I never told you to come off the vote but you still did.
Melchizedek said:
Last minute “self-prez” vote yesterday
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Self prez onto a wolf adds to your case? Lmaooo. At worst you could say NAI. But not sure how that *strengthens* your case
 
sunshinefl said:
I addressed one absent person who made her intention of being there clear. I never told you to come off the vote but you still did.
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Eh, you also addressed everyone who was voting for him and asked what they were hoping to gain from it.

It did occur to me that, other than myself (since I was getting progress updates from bread as he traveled home), packmates would be the ones to have the fact that he was driving most forefront in their minds. Easy enough for other people to forget how long he said he'd be gone.
 
sunshinefl said:
Self prez onto a wolf adds to your case? Lmaooo. At worst you could say NAI. But not sure how that *strengthens* your case
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Self prez votes in the last few minutes AFTER the person has already been safely established as the leading candidate does not a village move make.

It’s a wolf who realized their pack mate was going down and jumped on board.
 
WildZoo said:
Eh, you also addressed everyone who was voting for him and asked what they were hoping to gain from it.

It did occur to me that, other than myself (since I was getting progress updates from bread as he traveled home), packmates would be the ones to have the fact that he was driving most forefront in their minds. Easy enough for other people to forget how long he said he'd be gone.
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Okay so then vote me. Since villagers could never say such a thing.
 
Melchizedek said:
Self prez votes in the last few minutes AFTER the person has already been safely established as the leading candidate does not a village move make.

It’s a wolf who realized their pack mate was going down and jumped on board.
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Again. I didn’t ask for village credit for it. But it’s ridiculous to say that it MAKES me a wolf
 
sunshinefl said:
Okay so then vote me. Since villagers could never say such a thing.
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I will if I determine that's the best move once I have a chance to read back over bread and April's posts and interactions, and also examine end of day yesterday again 🙂
 
sunshinefl said:
When I moved he had 4 votes and I had 3 and there were 3-4 minutes to go. So please tell me why a villager would NOT move
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There was a 4 way tie between you, bread, sporty, and MKG at least 22 mins before deadline, and you were sitting on a pippy vote. why would you wait until last minute to self prez?

It feels looks like you were waiting to see if someone who wasn’t your pack mate would pick up traction so you could “self-prez” vote for them.
 
holdthemayo said:
Alley's switch to try a counter wagon on mkg after Mel made bread the leading wagon, stuck out to me at the time. Since she had just made the case that mkg was going to be modkilled when she switched off of her.

I wanna start there.


Yeet Alley
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You know what? That’s valid reasoning. I know my vote switching last night doesn’t make me look good. Especially since I was away from SDN at the actual yeet deadline so I never switched off of MKG when it was made apparent that she was going to be modkilled. I thought she had already made 10 posts when I left or was very close to it with 30 mins left. I had MKG and Sporty in my POE, but both Bread and Sunny were neutrals to me.
 
WildZoo said:
You were saying?
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Sad Shame GIF
 
Melchizedek said:
There was a 4 way tie between you, bread, sporty, and MKG at least 22 mins before deadline, and you were sitting on a pippy vote. why would you wait until last minute to self prez?

It feels looks like you were waiting to see if someone who wasn’t your pack mate would pick up traction so you could “self-prez” vote for them.
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Why would I self prez off when I have 2 whole votes? And with the votes are spread like that? I was on my STRONGEST wolf read. But no one was going there. And then I still wasn’t really in danger until someone put me to 3. I have to look back to see who. But I think it was April, a flipped wolf, who was also trying to recruit people to vote on me as I called out. To save her packmate. Not sure in what world that whole scenario plays out between 3 wolves.
 
@holdthemayo please look at the progression of my posts last night. Why would I be okay with a 4 way tie at yeet deadline (well when I thought it was the yeet deadline) if I was a wolf?

alleycat03 said:
Well it looks like she’s not making it back

unyeet MKG
Yeet sporty
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7:58pm CDT^
supershorty said:
Day 2 Yeet Tally
Bread (1) - Zenge
Cray (1) - Mel
Zenge () -
sunshine (2) - Pippy, Sporty
April (1) - DubZ
Sporty (2) - Cray, alley
alley () -
Pippy (1) - sunshine
mkg (2) - April, Visc
Mel (1) - Bread

11/13
yeet close in ~1 hour
Missing: @holdthemayo @mkg323
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holdthemayo said:
I don't see the point in voting for mkg. She'll probably be dead tonight anyway.

I think I learn the most about the weird movement by voting Bread. Even if he flips village, it helps put perspective on some of the late movers (ie if no wolf was in danger, the wolves likely weren't jumping wagon to wagon).

Vote Bread
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alleycat03 said:
4 way tie???
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8:00PM CDT^
supershorty said:
smh y'all just trying to see how many times you can make me post a tally

Day 2 Yeet Tally
Bread (2) - Zenge, mayo
Cray (1) - Mel
Zenge () -
sunshine (2) - Pippy, Sporty
April (1) - DubZ
Sporty (2) - Cray, alley
alley () -
Pippy (1) - sunshine
mkg (2) - April, Visc
Mel (1) - Bread

12/13
yeet close in ~1 hour
Missing: @mkg323
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alleycat03 said:
Frankly I don’t care if I get killed for making a tie, and I’m honestly okay with any of them dying.

very sorry Kdubs and the rest of the mods
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8:01PM CDT^
alleycat03 said:
Hey @holdthemayo where have you been? Your post before your vote was like 3am. I know I waffled and changed, but I think vote-holding is generally wolfy.
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alleycat03 said:
Omg I thought yeet deadline was 8pm central
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8:30PM CDT^
alleycat03 said:
Okay since the deadline is still in 30 mins and I think MKG is wolfier than sporty, that’s why I’m switching there. Also I think MKG will meet the post minimum

unyeet sporty
Yeet MKG
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8:37PM CDT^
 
alleycat03 said:
@holdthemayo please look at the progression of my posts last night. Why would I be okay with a 4 way tie at yeet deadline (well when I thought it was the yeet deadline) if I was a wolf?


7:58pm CDT^





8:00PM CDT^



8:01PM CDT^



8:30PM CDT^

8:37PM CDT^
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I didn't realize you thought the vote was closed with a 4 way tie. That makes your other comment make more sense to me.


How do you feel about Pippy and Sunshine?
 
Viscernable said:
Overall getting more village vibes from z than genny, though.

unvote bob
Vote genny
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at 9:59

Viscernable said:
Jesus maybe I do need to move just in case. I don’t think sunny is a good yeet.

unvote mkg
Vote bread
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at 9:59


Interesting timing of theses votes. Why wait until the last minute to jump on the leading wagon both night?
 
Sunshine looks like she saved Bread twice on D1. One time was her sketchy vote for Dubz that people called her out for.

But I haven't looked back to read April's posts in context and I feel like she was going along with my Sunshine read, so I might be wrong about that whole thing.

That's all I got.
 
sunshinefl said:
I still feel that my top 2 suspects, Pippy and sporty, are good suspects.

especially since Pippy claimed April was village, and April tried to slip in that sporty was removed from suspicion based on ??reasons?? (Historically noted, all available in my reads)

I feel somewhat better about WZ now
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You think I would be dumb enough to be like "aPRiL iS ViLLaGE" and even go so far as to tell Dubz to read the last game? Why would a wolf send someone to look up more evidence of the same thing?
 
PippyPony said:
You think I would be dumb enough to be like "aPRiL iS ViLLaGE" and even go so far as to tell Dubz to read the last game? Why would a wolf send someone to look up more evidence of the same thing?
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For the lulz? :thinking:
 
sunshinefl said:
Why would I self prez off when I have 2 whole votes? And with the votes are spread like that? I was on my STRONGEST wolf read. But no one was going there. And then I still wasn’t really in danger until someone put me to 3. I have to look back to see who. But I think it was April, a flipped wolf, who was also trying to recruit people to vote on me as I called out. To save her packmate. Not sure in what world that whole scenario plays out between 3 wolves.
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It was April. So again, I repeat,

April, a flipped wolf, put me to 3 votes when bread, a flipped wolf, was at 4, and she was also trying to recruit people to vote on me as I called out in the moment. To save her packmate. Not sure in what world that whole scenario plays out between 3 wolves.
 
sunshinefl said:
Because you were trying to get heat off your pack mate. That’s why.
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I would never -- and you can quote me on this -- toss a packmate under the bus like that by sending their most vocal accuser to gather more evidence from the last game. That would be like a defense attorney being winky-winky and handing something damning to the prosecution.

I might do it as part of my own defense if I thought I was doing a particularly good job of replicating my tone, but I wouldn't sell out a packmate unless that packmate was like, DocE or Nav and I knew they could handle a **** storm of an attack.
 
PippyPony said:
I would never -- and you can quote me on this -- toss a packmate under the bus like that by sending their most vocal accuser to gather more evidence from the last game. That would be like a defense attorney being winky-winky and handing something damning to the prosecution.

I might do it as part of my own defense if I thought I was doing a particularly good job of replicating my tone, but I wouldn't sell out a packmate unless that packmate was like, DocE or Nav and I knew they could handle a **** storm of an attack.
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Okay but....
WildZoo said:
I mean, maybe her tone really was different from last game :shrug:
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Which If you really are village, you cleared her publicly based off a perceived difference. So one must exist for your statement to work as a villager. But also if you are a wolf, you may have also perceived or even have coached a difference.

also I thought telling WZ of all people to do that when she can’t do such a thing in the tournament... I’m glad she didn’t.
 
PippyPony said:
I still think it was but clearly you didn't think so, so...?
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I mean, my read on her was not a tone read, so I legitimately have no idea what conclusion I would have drawn if I had gone to look at last game, or any of her other wolf outtings. I think I'm actually pretty good at reading April, decent track record, but it's not tone-based, it's...action-based? Something like that.
 
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