HMS Status Page Question

[schofield kid]

---

Members don't see this ad.

I just find this entire tread ridiculous and unnecessarily stressful.

yeah i agree - this thread sucks. i wonder if harvard will find out about it. curious to see if there's any truth to the speculation. we'll see soon enough....

 

[DrDarwin]

Yeah, just read this thread as well. Interviewed Dec. and I am complete. I know the consensus seems to be that complete=reject. I seem to have a disagreement with this, however. Perhaps I am being arrogant, but I find it hard to beleive that I would be outright rejected. WL, yes, but not outright rejection. With a 3.95/42, 3 years of research, good EC, volunteering, lots of shadowing, and the fact that I have been told on more than a few interviews that my LOR are incredible. Also, I feel my interviews went very well, and I have been accepted other places like NYU, Case, CCLCM, Northwestern, and a couple others. I know none of those are top 10, but I feel like it says that I can interview relatively well, and should have a good shot at at least the wait list.

Sorry if I sound bitter and self absorbed, but I just don't know what I could have done to at least get a waitlist. DrDarwin, I feel your pain, as I have also began to second guess my competitiveness at schools like HMS, and it is draining. I just find this entire tread ridiculous and unnecessarily stressful.

Honestly, it's not a question of competitiveness or you wouldn't have been invited to interview. There are too many factors at work here, and "the powers that be" often make decisions that appear entirely random to everyone but themselves. I am not totally convinced about the "complete = reject" theory either, but it certainly seems plausible. Good luck, and, again, it is not a question of competitivenesss, but rather the result of numerous uncontrollable factors and influences.

 

[elicash]

yeah i agree - this thread sucks. i wonder if harvard will find out about it. curious to see if there's any truth to the speculation. we'll see soon enough....

OH, don't worry folks....

I'm going to call HMS tomorrow to tell them about this thread and DEMAND CLARIFICATION!! "Hundreds of people are affected by this."

I'll post if/when i get info.

Also, fyi, HMS doesn't wait list many people, since most acceptances translate to enrollments.

 

[Tra La La]

OH, don't worry folks....

I'm going to call HMS tomorrow to tell them about this thread and DEMAND CLARIFICATION!! "Hundreds of people are affected by this."

I'll post if/when i get info.

Thank you! 🙂 😀 👍

 

[8-)]

Also, fyi, HMS doesn't wait list many people, since most acceptances translate to enrollments.

I didn't apply to Harvard, but I thought this might be helpful:

Based on US News for 2003: (Applied, Interviewed, Accepted, Enrolled)

Total: 5,367 722 250 165
In-state: 354 54 30 21
Out-of-state: 5,013 668 220 144

 

[Shaz]

It's difficult to bear so many disappointments in such a short amount of time, but such is life. I am sure everything will work out in the end.

Don't worry Darwin. You're right: things will work out in the end. "This is the best of all possible worlds."

 

[Tra La La]

I didn't apply to Harvard, but I thought this might be helpful:

Based on US News for 2003: (Applied, Interviewed, Accepted, Enrolled)

Total: 5,367 722 250 165
In-state: 354 54 30 21
Out-of-state: 5,013 668 220 144

Thanks for the info--so a little more than 1 of 3 interviewees is actually accepted?

I feel like I'm flipping a three-sided coin!

 

[dandelion]

Yeah, just read this thread as well. Interviewed Dec. and I am complete. I know the consensus seems to be that complete=reject. I seem to have a disagreement with this, however. Perhaps I am being arrogant, but I find it hard to beleive that I would be outright rejected. WL, yes, but not outright rejection. With a 3.95/42, 3 years of research, good EC, volunteering, lots of shadowing, and the fact that I have been told on more than a few interviews that my LOR are incredible. Also, I feel my interviews went very well, and I have been accepted other places like NYU, Case, CCLCM, Northwestern, and a couple others. I know none of those are top 10, but I feel like it says that I can interview relatively well, and should have a good shot at at least the wait list.

Sorry if I sound bitter and self absorbed, but I just don't know what I could have done to at least get a waitlist. DrDarwin, I feel your pain, as I have also began to second guess my competitiveness at schools like HMS, and it is draining. I just find this entire tread ridiculous and unnecessarily stressful.

I certainly hope you're right! This thread IS unnecessarily stressful. Guess we'll be finding out for sure in a few short days. Best of luck to all!

 

[GuyLaroche]

I have very strong reasons to believe incomplete most definitely means accepted. So, my completeness is most definitely a rejection. I have spent the weekend healing from this, and I am ready to move on. A rejection from Harvard will have no material influence on my future as a physician.

 

[Electrophys]

I have very strong reasons to believe incomplete most definitely means accepted. So, my completeness is most definitely a rejection. I have spent the weekend healing from this, and I am ready to move on. A rejection from Harvard will have no material influence on my future as a physician.

It still hurts though (at least it does me). But you seem to be in an awesome position GuyLaroche! Congrats on all the success this admission season!

 

[calcrew14]

I didn't apply to Harvard, but I thought this might be helpful:

Based on US News for 2003: (Applied, Interviewed, Accepted, Enrolled)

Total: 5,367 722 250 165
In-state: 354 54 30 21
Out-of-state: 5,013 668 220 144

😱 76/220 successful out-of-state applicants weren’t enrolled. 😱 😱 😕

 

[calcrew14]

And 9/30 homeboys were lost on the way there.

 

[davidus]

indeed, it appears the code has been cracked. If you can log in to financial aid, you're in. As the webpage states: "If you have not yet been admitted to Harvard Medical School, you cannot access this system."

Congrats to all of us, complete or not (still not sure what correlation this has with admittance). Hope I cross paths with some of you in the future.

FYI, I can't log in.

 

[Tra La La]

indeed, it appears the code has been cracked. If you can log in to financial aid, you're in. As the webpage states: "If you have not yet been admitted to Harvard Medical School, you cannot access this system."

Congrats to all of us, complete or not (still not sure what correlation this has with admittance). Hope I cross paths with some of you in the future.

FYI, I can't log in.

Could you log in, Davidus?

 

[davidus]

Could you log in, Davidus?

TLL, can't. hope I can join you and the other COMPLETErs at UCSF come august.

 

[Tra La La]

TLL, can't. hope I can join you and the other COMPLETErs at UCSF come august.

UCSF representing!

Are you likely to be headed over to the Bay as well?

 

[davidus]

UCSF representing!

Are you likely to be headed over to the Bay as well?

I don't want to get ahead of myself. Still waiting on them post interview (bout 1mo ago). It would be a nice gesture (by whoever is pulling the strings) if I received a big envelope after the little one that'll arrive in a few days...

 

[GuyLaroche]

The healing is 95% complete. The remaining 5% will come upon receipt of my rejection letter. I could not log in.

 

[Tra La La]

I don't want to get ahead of myself. Still waiting on them post interview (bout 1mo ago). It would be a nice gesture (by whoever is pulling the strings) if I received a big envelope after the little one that'll arrive in a few days...

on UCSF. I really hope that you get some love in the next few days. 🙂

 

[Tra La La]

The healing is 95% complete. The remaining 5% will come upon receipt of my rejection letter. I could not log in.

I join you in the healing process. 😳

 

[GuyLaroche]

Brothers and sisters of completeness, it was a good dream.... Now, let us wake up and soldier on. The world is not to end for us. Our journey has only begun. Let us congratulate those for whom fortune has beamed its kindess upon, and in so doing, remember that we were part of a fortunate lot.... etc.


On a side note, I am being rejected/waitlisted from every school I was ambivalent or disinterested in. I wonder if my feelings came across in my interview.

 

[Tra La La]

Brothers and sisters of completeness, it was a good dream.... Now, let us wake up and soldier on. The world is not to end for us. Our journey has only begun. Let us congratulate those for whom fortune has beamed its kindess upon, and in so doing, remember that we were part of a fortunate lot.... etc.

Amen to that! 👍

 

[brothersboff]

To the incompletes out there, I'd be interested to know how many are and aren't able to access the financial aid page. I'm incomplete but can't access, so I'd love to know if that means W/L or a delay in the site updating or perhaps something entirely different.

 

[criminallyinane]

Yeah, just read this thread as well. Interviewed Dec. and I am complete. I know the consensus seems to be that complete=reject. I seem to have a disagreement with this, however. Perhaps I am being arrogant, but I find it hard to beleive that I would be outright rejected. WL, yes, but not outright rejection. With a 3.95/42, 3 years of research, good EC, volunteering, lots of shadowing, and the fact that I have been told on more than a few interviews that my LOR are incredible. Also, I feel my interviews went very well, and I have been accepted other places like NYU, Case, CCLCM, Northwestern, and a couple others. I know none of those are top 10, but I feel like it says that I can interview relatively well, and should have a good shot at at least the wait list.

What confidence! That's awesome! 👍 Harvard is just such a crapshoot, though, that I don't think anyone can really feel safe.

Sorry if I sound bitter and self absorbed, but I just don't know what I could have done to at least get a waitlist. DrDarwin, I feel your pain, as I have also began to second guess my competitiveness at schools like HMS, and it is draining. I just find this entire tread ridiculous and unnecessarily stressful.

Agreed on the stressful! Ridiculous, not so sure...

 

[dandelion]

The healing is 95% complete. The remaining 5% will come upon receipt of my rejection letter. I could not log in.

Complete, and I couldn't log in either. I'm pretty much healed, too, except every time I enter into the crazy world of SDN, then it hurts all over again. 😳

 

[leechy]

Is there anyone who handed in a FAFSA long ago and is listed as incomplete? I know Mateo knew one person, but I'm wondering if there are any others... I really thought that was just a FAFSA thing..

Of course, in the wake of the financial aid site, I'm not sure this question is relevant anymore.

 

[brothersboff]

Is there anyone who handed in a FAFSA long ago and is listed as incomplete? I know Mateo knew one person, but I'm wondering if there are any others... I really thought that was just a FAFSA thing..

Of course, in the wake of the financial aid site, I'm not sure this question is relevant anymore.

Matea mentioned two people, one of whom hadn't turned in the FAFSA but was still listed as complete. That makes me think it's not a financial aid issue...

 

[Tra La La]

How many "complete" people who can't log in to the financial aid site are actually still holding hope for an acceptance?

Am I being completely irrational for presuming a rejection?

Just curious.

 

[dandelion]

How many "complete" people who can't log in to the financial aid site are actually still holding hope for an acceptance?

Am I being completely irrational for presuming a rejection?

Just curious.

I'm also presuming rejection, and it stings particularly, because HMS (I'm expecting) will be my first post-interview outright rejection.

Kudos, though, to the completes still holding out secret hope! Good luck to all of you . . .

 

[lilxsmilez]

I'm also presuming rejection, and it stings particularly, because HMS (I'm expecting) will be my first post-interview outright rejection.

Kudos, though, to the completes still holding out secret hope! Good luck to all of you . . .

Yea me too....but i'm over it now and I'm ready to be rejected or waitlisted at all the top 10 I interviewed with..haha. I think this thread took up like 2 hours of my life and I have a 15 page paper due tomorrow...we're so neurotic

 

[Tra La La]

I'm also presuming rejection...

Right on to realism! 👍

No hope here, either.

 

[DrDarwin]

At least our breaking of the mysterious HMS code has let us down gently over the last couple of days. I was hoping for at least a waitlist, and I think I therefore would have been totally numbed by a letter of rejection. As a result of our slowly cracking the code, I have had several days to come to grips with my rejection. And I am actually thankful (in a twisted sort of way), because it would have been much harder to discover as much after anxiously and excitedly opening my decision letter. For better or worse, I now know what to expect...

 

[davidus]

At least our breaking of the mysterious HMS code has let us down gently over the last couple of days. I was hoping for at least a waitlist, and I think I therefore would have been totally numbed by a letter of rejection. As a result of our slowly cracking the code, I have had several days to come to grips with my rejection. And I am actually thankful (in a twisted sort of way), because it would have been much harder to discover as much after anxiously and excitedly opening my decision letter. For better or worse, I now know what to expect...

DocDarwin, I was feeling the exact same way, actually. I hope the big envelope fairy visits you soon (and often).

 

[CalGoldenBear]

I don't think we've completely cracked the code. What do you guys think about incomplete/can't log in? Should that be chalked up as a rejection as well?

maybe a waitlist... or the financial aid page hasn't been fully updated to let the rest of the incompletes sign in?

 

[DrDarwin]

DocDarwin, I was feeling the exact same way, actually. I hope the big envelope fairy visits you soon (and often).

Thanks. It kind of sucks because I thought HMS and UCSF were far and away the two most alluring schools in the country (cool cities, curriculums, students, research and service opportunities, etc.). Of course, I didn't have a prayer at UCSF (non-resident), but I was holding out hope for HMS. Now that neither will be working out and there is such a vast gulf (IMO) in the attractiveness of HMS/UCSF and other top schools, I am strongly considering attending my state school (if accepted, of course). Because education is usually what one makes of it and I know I can be successful regardless of the program, I will probably pick--given the choice--the school at which I will be happiest, whether that school is particularly 'prestigious' or not. Good luck to you too! I hope UCSF works out 👍.

 

[Tra La La]

G'night to everyone, and best of luck this upcoming week!

 

[SmartyPants]

i was thinking that maybe whether we are complete or not depends on whether we have actually finished all the course requirements... i.e. i haven't finished calculus and still need to take one course. so maybe that's why i'm incomplete regardless of being accepted/not accepted even though i turned in the requirements worksheet. any thoughts?? 😕

 

[brothersboff]

i was thinking that maybe whether we are complete or not depends on whether we have actually finished all the course requirements... i.e. i haven't finished calculus and still need to take one course. so maybe that's why i'm incomplete regardless of being accepted/not accepted even though i turned in the requirements worksheet. any thoughts?? 😕

I posted this over on the other thread, but I'm guessing no, since i've completed all the requirements and submitted my form, yet I'm still incomplete. Seems like most of the incompletes are in the same boat.

 

[Sparky Man]

Hey all you incompetes who can't log in to the financial aid page, be sure to post if that changes!

 

[LRmed2003]

what is the link for the financial aid page??

 

[LRmed2003]

never mind i found it..soo are some folks able to log in already?

 

[LRmed2003]

okay, sooo who so far CAN log into the financial aid website???

~L

 

[LRmed2003]

https://medweb.med.harvard.edu/finaidapp/logon.aspx?ReturnUrl=/finaidapp/PgHome.aspx

 

[CarleneM]

okay, sooo who so far CAN log into the financial aid website???

~L

me! it has my name and some forms that were put up there on 3/4 for me to complete. i still am skeptical it means anything though since someone who was rejected w/o interview claims to be able to log in also.

as for others who have interviewed, i know that the mateo fellow can log in, as can leaft and some others.

 

[beep]

i was rejected w/o interview and i can't log in.

 

[Dentotape]

Will someone muster up the courage to call the office and ask why some people can access the fin aid site? If they say it's because they were accepted, be sure to ask if waitlisters can also access the site.

Carlene--you HAVE to be in! Congrats! I'm sure the poster you are refering to is lying out his ass.

um.. so i called. and i have no idea what's up. basically, they operate off two databases- one that's AMCAS based, and one that's the private Harvard one. sometime in the last couple of days, one of the databases was imported into the other. I'm guessing that one of them was never updated from incomplete to complete, and after the files were imported, the more recent database with 'complete' turned to 'incomplete'. i'm not sure what this means, and didn't want to press further for the financial aid log-in correlation. anyway, if anyone else gets a better answer when they call, let us know! and just to confirm, letters are mailed today.

 

[elicash]

um.. so i called. and i have no idea what's up. basically, they operate off two databases- one that's AMCAS based, and one that's the private Harvard one. sometime in the last couple of days, one of the databases was imported into the other. I'm guessing that one of them was never updated from incomplete to complete, and after the files were imported, the more recent database with 'complete' turned to 'incomplete'. i'm not sure what this means, and didn't want to press further for the financial aid log-in correlation. anyway, if anyone else gets a better answer when they call, let us know! and just to confirm, letters are mailed today.

interesting.... because i just got off the phone, had no "database" info shared, but the guy was taken aback at the fin aid website news. He put me on hold to talk to someone, and then gave some BS answer about how they have to look into it. But the financial aid tie in seems to be pretty conclusive, what with people's names on the form, etc.

Going to try something new now -- staying off this thread for a little while. I think i'll go hang out by my mailbox.

 

[CarleneM]

interesting.... because i just got off the phone, had no "database" info shared, but the guy was taken aback at the fin aid website news. He put me on hold to talk to someone, and then gave some BS answer about how they have to look into it. But the financial aid tie in seems to be pretty conclusive, what with people's names on the form, etc.

Going to try something new now -- staying off this thread for a little while. I think i'll go hang out by my mailbox.

did you call the fin aid office or the admissions office?

 

[leechy]

Ok, I think I'm going to have a heart attack with all this suspense.

Carlene, my guess is that eli called the admissions office.

LR2003, someone else's post implied that you've applied before and been waitlisted... was there a finaid website at that point? I'm just wondering whether all this hooplah is happening for the first time this year. It might also help answer Checkmate's question of whether the waitlisted should be able to log into the site.

Anyone know if first class mail can arrive on the same day?

 

[LRmed2003]

when i applied before there was no website...and also if one is waitlisted, you still have to fill out everything and submit a profile, etc.. so i would assume there would have to be some kind of loophole so those folks can check on their status as well.. maybe...not sure though.. as for this time, i am one of the "can't log on" folks..so it looks like it'll be a skinny envelope in my mailbox tomorrow..i live around the corner from HMS...oh well..trying to keep on a happy face..