Job Hunt

[Homo sapien]

Hi

I am an upcoming PGY3 and I wanted to start job hunting sometime in this summer. I know everything is all ****ed up because of COVID but I at least wanted to get my name out there and make contacts and things. How does one recommend going about that? and yes, I know the whole 'podiatrists eat their own' thing but I was planning on just contacting almost everyone in the areas I'd like to be and see what happens, and included hospitals and wound care centers too. I haven't done anything yet, though. What do you people think?

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[dtrack22]

I was planning on just contacting almost everyone in the areas I'd like to be and see what happens, and included hospitals and wound care centers too.

do this. Read stickied threads on this forum. Thats it.

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[Homo sapien]

ok/ thank you.

 

[Pronation]

Good luck. The pod job market was terrible even before COVID-19.

 

[GreenHousePub]

contacting almost everyone in the areas I'd like to be and see what happens

That's your best bet.

 

[DYK343]

The earlier you start the better. Especially when the odds are against you with Covid-19

Residency is time consuming but too many people wait until 3-4 months prior to graduation to start looking.

As above. Just blast out your CV/Cover letter to desired areas. It was a lot of work, but I got quite a few interviews/interests that way.

If I remember correctly my experience was about 90% of hospitals/MSGs you "cold call" dont respond. 5% thanks but no thanks "we will keep your CV on file in case we ever decide to hire". About 5% were interested in hiring.

I did get a few hospitals call me after I was already employed (one was 2 years later) because they had my CV on file and wanted to interview me as they wanted to hire DPM. Having your CV on file will be beneficial once this Covid pandemic is over and people want to start hiring again.

Working for DPMs (during normal non covid-19 times) jobs are everywhere. I would strongly recommend opening your own practice before joining as an associate. It's insane how poorly DPMs pay new grads. It's the ugliest part of our profession.

 

[PTPuser]

The earlier you start the better. Especially when the odds are against you with Covid-19

Residency is time consuming but too many people wait until 3-4 months prior to graduation to start looking.

As above. Just blast out your CV/Cover letter to desired areas. It was a lot of work, but I got quite a few interviews/interests that way.

If I remember correctly my experience was about 90% of hospitals/MSGs you "cold call" dont respond. 5% thanks but no thanks "we will keep your CV on file in case we ever decide to hire". About 5% were interested in hiring.

I did get a few hospitals call me after I was already employed (one was 2 years later) because they had my CV on file and wanted to interview me as they wanted to hire DPM. Having your CV on file will be beneficial once this Covid pandemic is over and people want to start hiring again.

Working for DPMs (during normal non covid-19 times) jobs are everywhere. I would strongly recommend opening your own practice before joining as an associate. It's insane how poorly DPMs pay new grads. It's the ugliest part of our profession.

I am a million years away from the job search process but just how difficult and stressful is it when it comes to opening your own practice in the current system we're in? Thank you.

 

[JewOnThis]

take any available job

 

[DYK343]

I am a million years away from the job search process but just how difficult and stressful is it when it comes to opening your own practice in the current system we're in? Thank you.

I'm not the best to ask since I went from residency to MSG

And I agree, with Covid-19 you may want to take the best job you can, even as a DPM associate. 500 graduating DPMs are going to be looking for employment in a time when our clinics are 1/2 the volume. Sounds like elective surgery may be coming back nationwide in the coming weeks so that may help.

Or just start your own and bite the bullet for awhile until this picks up.

 

[perforating_peroneal]

Long time lurker on here. Have a quick question for those that have a coveted multi specialty or hospital based job.
Who did you guys reach out to at each respective hospital?

I unfortunately haven’t had much luck besides the bunch of replies from HR of ‘thanks but we’ll keep your CV on file’, if it’s expanding into work that previously wasn’t done before I.e. creating a position, did you guys go above them to the CMO/administration?

thanks!

 

[G0dFather]

LOL at "coveted"

 

[perforating_peroneal]

Lol don’t know if I’m gutsy enough to venture out on my own

 

[DYK343]

Private practice owners have higher income potential than employed but takes time to build up to that point.

Hired DPMs like myself start out at a higher rate but our ceiling is lower. I have health insurance, 401k, CME, paid vacation, etc ,etc

I could also go to work tomorrow and it could be my last day. That doesnt happen when you own your own practice.

Pluses and minuses to both

A DPM associate will get paid next to nothing and its usually a bad idea (during normal times).

 

[Homo sapien]

Private practice owners have higher income potential than employed but takes time to build up to that point.

Hired DPMs like myself start out at a higher rate but our ceiling is lower. I have health insurance, 401k, CME, paid vacation, etc ,etc

I could also go to work tomorrow and it could be my last day. That doesnt happen when you own your own practice.

Pluses and minuses to both

A DPM associate will get paid next to nothing and its usually a bad idea (during normal times).

I understand that, but how do you think people start opening thier own stuff and 'biting bullets' at a time when they got 300K debt and low money. I wish i had no debt and 300 money

 

[CutsWithFury]

I understand that, but how do you think people start opening thier own stuff and 'biting bullets' at a time when they got 300K debt and low money. I wish i had no debt and 300 money

its called a small business loan

 

[DYK343]

I understand that, but how do you think people start opening thier own stuff and 'biting bullets' at a time when they got 300K debt and low money. I wish i had no debt and 300 money

You're not going to get out of that 300k debt by maxing out at 125k as an associate before taxes.

 

[Homo sapien]

You're not going to get out of that 300k debt by maxing out at 125k as an associate before taxes.

oh I definitely know that.

So, if one wasto try to start their own practice, what do they do for money in the meantime while it builds? Do they do stuff like nursing homes/wound centers part time?

 

[Scrantonicity]

oh I definitely know that.

So, if one wasto try to start their own practice, what do they do for money in the meantime while it builds? Do they do stuff like nursing homes/wound centers part time?

I'm no expert in this as I've only been an associate up to this point, but I would think that part of the small business loan would be set aside to pay your first year salary (which may not be much better than associate salary at first). I'm sure side gigs like nursing homes/wound care centers would be a great idea if they're available as well.

The first year or two is definitely a risk, especially if there is competition, but it seems to pay off for most that I've heard about/talked to. Some of them start paying off in just the first year. Again, competition would be the biggest factor, so don't open up in the middle of Chicago. I think most of us that are associates wish we had taken the risk a long time ago...

 

[DYK343]

oh I definitely know that.

So, if one wasto try to start their own practice, what do they do for money in the meantime while it builds? Do they do stuff like nursing homes/wound centers part time?

I'm not really the best to ask since I went straight to MSG practice after residency. People do it. I know of at least 5 that started their own practice from my graduating class. I am sure someone here can give you better advice.

 

[Homo sapien]

I'm no expert in this as I've only been an associate up to this point, but I would think that part of the small business loan would be set aside to pay your first year salary (which may not be much better than associate salary at first). I'm sure side gigs like nursing homes/wound care centers would be a great idea if they're available as well.

The first year or two is definitely a risk, especially if there is competition, but it seems to pay off for most that I've heard about/talked to. Some of them start paying off in just the first year. Again, competition would be the biggest factor, so don't open up in the middle of Chicago. I think most of us that are associates wish we had taken the risk a long time ago...

I'm from rural Mississippi, so I'd plan to go somewhere like that maybe (maybe not the same state but the kind of idea).

So the idea is take out a small business loan for doctors' practices (enough to have equipment and a smallsalary) and then try to go from there>?

 

[GreenHousePub]

I'm from rural Mississippi, so I'd plan to go somewhere like that maybe (maybe not the same state but the kind of idea).

So the idea is take out a small business loan for doctors' practices (enough to have equipment and a smallsalary) and then try to go from there>?

Make sure you have about 10-20% down for the loan amount if you are going down the SBA avenue.

 

[air bud]

marry for money not love

 

[heybrother]

When you girlfriend asks you if you'd like to go on a trip to visit her grandmother - think of it as a scouting expedition on the path to marrying for money. See airbuds post above!

 

[Homo sapien]

Make sure you have about 10-20% down for the loan amount if you are going down the SBA avenue.

then that's definitely a no-go lol. I probably have 10%-20% down for a laptop right now, or maybe a cheap new car

SBA= what?

 

[G0dFather]

SBA= what?

if you are having a tough time using google to figure out what SBA ( small business admin) is … then that troubling to start things off

 

[JewOnThis]

I hear Healthdrive is hiring