Just saw a DO on a TV commercial...

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Hey all.

I just saw a DO resident on a HydroxyCut commercial on ESPN... Anyone else seen this? It says his name is John Marshall and that he graduated from Midwestern University... There's a big "DO" on his labcoat, too... I mean, the dude surely is jacked and whatnot, but... Hydroxycut? That **** is awful for you...


just wondering if anyone else has seen it.


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Goose-d said:
Hey all.

I just saw a DO resident on a HydroxyCut commercial on ESPN... Anyone else seen this? It says his name is John Marshall and that he graduated from Midwestern University... There's a big "DO" on his labcoat, too... I mean, the dude surely is jacked and whatnot, but... Hydroxycut? That **** is awful for you...


just wondering if anyone else has seen it.


-goose

Hey. SO WHAT!!!

I know I'm being mean. I'd be interested to hear you elaborate on why this was enough of an issue to you to start a thread about it.

Is it because hydroxycut is not a healthy way to lose weight, and it goes against some part of the 'DO difference'?

Or is it because you saw a DO on TV? Yes, DO's should be on TV just as much as MD's, and actually I think it would be nice if such resources such as "WebMD" and "MDConsult" were called "WebDO/MD/" and "DO/MDConsult." Will that ever happen? No.

Bah. :D
 
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DrMaryC said:
Hey. SO WHAT!!!

I know I'm being mean. I'd be interested to hear you elaborate on why this was enough of an issue to you to start a thread about it.

Is it because hydroxycut is not a healthy way to lose weight, and it goes against some part of the 'DO difference'?

Or is it because you saw a DO on TV? Yes, DO's should be on TV just as much as MD's, and actually I think it would be nice if such resources such as "WebMD" and "MDConsult" were called "WebDO/MD/" and "DO/MDConsult." Will that ever happen? No.

Bah. :D

geeze. i just thought it was interesting... chill out.
 
yeah, hydroxycut is horrible stuff. what the heck is in it now that it doesn't have ephedra? the bad thing about do being the minority degree is that every quack do makes the whole profession look worse, while every quack md is just dismissed as a quack and not representative of the profession. so, we've got this guy and mercola (do a search for him on quackwatch if interested). it's all too bad, but what can you do? every profession and every group is going to have some greedy nutjobs who aren't representative of the group as a whole.
 
exlawgrrl said:
yeah, hydroxycut is horrible stuff. what the heck is in it now that it doesn't have ephedra? the bad thing about do being the minority degree is that every quack do makes the whole profession look worse, while every quack md is just dismissed as a quack and not representative of the profession. so, we've got this guy and mercola (do a search for him on quackwatch if interested). it's all too bad, but what can you do? every profession and every group is going to have some greedy nutjobs who aren't representative of the group as a whole.

i'm pretty sure its mostly caffeine... like drinking 10 cups of coffee
 
DrMaryC said:
Hey. SO WHAT!!!

I know I'm being mean. I'd be interested to hear you elaborate on why this was enough of an issue to you to start a thread about it.

Is it because hydroxycut is not a healthy way to lose weight, and it goes against some part of the 'DO difference'?

Or is it because you saw a DO on TV? Yes, DO's should be on TV just as much as MD's, and actually I think it would be nice if such resources such as "WebMD" and "MDConsult" were called "WebDO/MD/" and "DO/MDConsult." Will that ever happen? No.

Bah. :D


Haha, oh man where is the love on this forum anymore? It's like Goose personally peed in your cheerios. There is an easy solution to avoiding threads you don't like. That green arrow at the upper-left hand corner of your browser means to go back. Go back and avoid it, no reason to get cocky and try to belittle someone you DONT even know. Sorry, I just CANNOT stand rude people. I have to work with them all day and this is suppose to be a forum dedicated to people are entering into a profession whose main goal is it HELP others. You cannot help if your head is stuck firmly up your ass. Show some love damn it! :)
 
Goose-d said:
i'm pretty sure its mostly caffeine... like drinking 10 cups of coffee

Out of curiosity I went to their website. The regular formula has caffeiene, but they have a caffeine free version, too. I guess that's for the folks who're afraid of having caffeine but are more than willing to put random "herbs" into their bodies b/c a commercial says they work & are safe. *sigh*
 
DrMom said:
Out of curiosity I went to their website. The regular formula has caffeiene, but they have a caffeine free version, too. I guess that's for the folks who're afraid of having caffeine but are more than willing to put random "herbs" into their bodies b/c a commercial says they work & are safe. *sigh*

I could be totally wrong, but doesn't caffeine ultimately slow-down metabolism long-term? I thought it sped it up short-term, but continual (ab)use had the reverse effect... sad stuff...

lol... wonder what those "herbs" are?
 
whatever the ratio of md's to do's is in the country, i'm sure the ratio of quack md's to quack do's is almost identical! lol

actually, it makes me sick when i see these quacks (mostly md's given the numbers) on tv. med school's so tough to get into that i wonder who the hell let them into med school in the first place.
 
exlawgrrl said:
yeah, hydroxycut is horrible stuff. what the heck is in it now that it doesn't have ephedra? the bad thing about do being the minority degree is that every quack do makes the whole profession look worse, while every quack md is just dismissed as a quack and not representative of the profession. so, we've got this guy and mercola (do a search for him on quackwatch if interested). it's all too bad, but what can you do? every profession and every group is going to have some greedy nutjobs who aren't representative of the group as a whole.

What makes him a quack, and what makes it horrible stuff?

Please....enlighten us.
 
the same company (muscletech) has used a female graduate from yale medical school as a spokesperson in the past.

doesn't bother me that a supplement company is using a DO to endorse it's products; however, muscletech is notorious for making exaggerrated claims re: the efficacy of its products.
 
First of all guys, Dr. John Marshall was my classmate throughout most of my medical school education. This year, he is a first year resident and I am a fourth year med student. We spent some time together and talked a lot about hydroxycut.

Firstly, John is not a quack. He is extremely intelligent and probably one of the smarter people I know. He is a radiology resident at a time when those residencies are harder to find.

With regards to hydroxycut, nowadays all it has in it is some green tea extract and yerba mate extract.

Further, John will be the first to admit that you have to eat right and excercise. Everytime I went to the gym to play basketball, he was in the weight room lifting. You don't get fit by taking a pill. There is no such thing as the obesity drug.

There is no need to bash people or talk negatively about them. I am sure most physicians that do TV commercials get paid a pretty penny and aren't making outlandish claims. If they do, then it'd be easy to lose your license.
 
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weird . . . i saw that commercial this morning for the first time, and like a dork, i looked straight at his labcoat to see what sort of degree he really had, if any, and i must admit, i was surprised to see a legitimate medical degree . . . it makes me sad to see medical professionals extolling products which really are just a marketing gimic. you dont need any supplement to lose weight- you need to watch your calories, your portions, and work out every day. anything else is just trying to suck money out of desperate people's wallets. its just a business sham. im not denying those supplements work- i know they do. but its just not a healthy way to do it, and 99% of the time, i think its probably a bad idea for doctors to recommend non regulated substances to their patients.
 
I personally am a fan of infomercials-- I almost auditioned to be a QVC host actually.. (that's a story for another day)

But anyways- I always find it personally pathetic when on some infomerical they are endorsing some weight loss pill, and the announcer says, "And even this doctor agrees!" And they show this guy wearing a white lab coat with a stethescope talking about how effective the product is for weight loss. But if you look closely at the caption you see that he has a DC, DPM, or some other non-MD/DO degree after his name. Although I have nothing against chiropractors or podiatrists-- if a company is advertising a product that is not back or foot related and then they claim to have a "doctor's" endorsement, they are taking advantage of the fact that people assume the guy in the lab coat to to be a MD or a DO.
 
Goose-d said:
Hey all.

I just saw a DO resident on a HydroxyCut commercial on ESPN... Anyone else seen this? It says his name is John Marshall and that he graduated from Midwestern University... There's a big "DO" on his labcoat, too... I mean, the dude surely is jacked and whatnot, but... Hydroxycut? That **** is awful for you...


just wondering if anyone else has seen it.


-goose

You saw the shorter version of the commercial. The extended version also has a female MD that graduated from Yale. It has both, and I really don't care how bad the stuff is suppose to be. I was impressed by the way they used both an MD and a DO. It is a way to demonstrate that they both stand on equal ground. I'm just glad that DOs are making there way on TV. I mean, if you want to reach the average American you have to turn to television. Most people don't even know what a DO is, so as long as they producing awareness to the unimformed public, I am pleased regardless of what they are indorsing as long as it does not negatively impact the profession. Hydroxcut is not too bad though. I've used it, and it produces real results if it is used with a strict diet and exercise program. I was pleases with the comercial.
 
clc8503 said:
You saw the shorter version of the commercial. The extended version also has a female MD that graduated from Yale. It has both, and I really don't care how bad the stuff is suppose to be. I was impressed by the way they used both an MD and a DO. It is a way to demonstrate that they both stand on equal ground. I'm just glad that DOs are making there way on TV. I mean, if you want to reach the average American you have to turn to television. Most people don't even know what a DO is, so as long as they producing awareness to the unimformed public, I am pleased regardless of what they are indorsing as long as it does not negatively impact the profession. Hydroxcut is not too bad though. I've used it, and it produces real results if it is used with a strict diet and exercise program. I was pleases with the comercial.

I agree with this. Even if this product is a scam, having a DO on TV as a medical proffesional is a good thing because it gives laypeople exposure to this. Unfortunately, I doubt that many people will notice that this guy is D.O., because the average is not going to be looking as closely at the text on his white coat as we do. Oh well.
 
mtDNA said:
I agree with this. Even if this product is a scam, having a DO on TV as a medical proffesional is a good thing because it gives laypeople exposure to this. Unfortunately, I doubt that many people will notice that this guy is D.O., because the average is not going to be looking as closely at the text on his white coat as we do. Oh well.


That is true, and for the most part, patients don't either in real life.
 
Did the commercial even have 'DO' in the caption? All it said was Midwestern University to the best of my recollection.

Similarly, since Yale School of Medicine offers degrees other than a MD, I wonder what degree specifically the woman in the commercial graduated with?
 
potato51 said:
Did the commercial even have 'DO' in the caption? All it said was Midwestern University to the best of my recollection.

Similarly, since Yale School of Medicine offers degrees other than a MD, I wonder what degree specifically the woman in the commercial graduated with?


She was a graduate of Yale School of Medicine. So, she has a MD.
 
I didn't notice the DO part, I just thought this commercial was funny because it said "Dr. So and So recommends Hydroxycut" and then it says "graduated 2005." He's been a doctor for 6 months. Not a very reliable source! (But I guess they really don't care about that on those commercials)
 
DOtobe said:
I didn't notice the DO part, I just thought this commercial was funny because it said "Dr. So and So recommends Hydroxycut" and then it says "graduated 2005." He's been a doctor for 6 months. Not a very reliable source! (But I guess they really don't care about that on those commercials)

Good point! He hasn't even completed his residency and yet knows enough to endorse hydroxycut. :rolleyes: Even if hydroxycut isn't dangerous, I sincerely doubt it's effective enough to justify its price tag.
 
i saw that. i'm like, wow finally we see a DO on a national commercial...and he's endorsing hydroxycut :( he was a midwestern grad i noticed.
 
For some reason, when the public sees a "doctor" endorse something, the product is automatically legitimized. "Dr. Phil," who is a clinical psychologist, made a fortune on his weight loss products. What the hell does he know about nutrition? Nada. Plan and simply, his name sold the product.

Shoot, John Marshall, who is likely saddled with $200K+ debt, figured that he could make some cash to put a small dent into his loans, and did a commercial for Hydroxycut. I wonder what Midwestern University thinks about his using their school name to endorse a controversial product?
 
PublicHealth said:
For some reason, when the public sees a "doctor" endorse something, the product is automatically legitimized. "Dr. Phil," who is a clinical psychologist, made a fortune on his weight loss products. What the hell does he know about nutrition? Nada. Plan and simply, his name sold the product.

Shoot, John Marshall, who is likely saddled with $200K+ debt, figured that he could make some cash to put a small dent into his loans, and did a commercial for Hydroxycut. I wonder what Midwestern University thinks about his using their school name to endorse a controversial product?

They've already got Mercola, so maybe they're used to it. :)
 
This guy happened to be in there adds a few years ago and they must have offered him an new position as a spoke person for their product. Most of these products are quite safe and can be used to achieve greater results if accompanied by proper diet and exercise. Hydroxycut has superior ingredients and has gotten superior results, even with ephedra. There is nothing wrong with this guy endorsing a product he believes in. Its funny, no one give doctors crap for pushing certain brands of meds at people. I know many docs that are willing to help out their favorite drug reps when they can.
 
Did anyone see the commercial with the DO/PhD/Naturopath/something else? He promised his mom that he'd find the cure for diabetes and says that his book holds the secret. That was pretty bad. I think it's called, "A promise made a promise kept" or something like that.
 
misparas said:
Did anyone see the commercial with the DO/PhD/Naturopath/something else? He promised his mom that he'd find the cure for diabetes and says that his book holds the secret. That was pretty bad. I think it's called, "A promise made a promise kept" or something like that.

Ounce of prevention is a pound of cure for diabetes.
 
misparas said:
Did anyone see the commercial with the DO/PhD/Naturopath/something else? He promised his mom that he'd find the cure for diabetes and says that his book holds the secret. That was pretty bad. I think it's called, "A promise made a promise kept" or something like that.


Yea, I saw that. Why do you think its pretty bad?
 
Goose-d said:
Hey all.

I just saw a DO resident on a HydroxyCut commercial on ESPN... Anyone else seen this? It says his name is John Marshall and that he graduated from Midwestern University... There's a big "DO" on his labcoat, too... I mean, the dude surely is jacked and whatnot, but... Hydroxycut? That **** is awful for you...


just wondering if anyone else has seen it.


-goose

Yeah I saw that commercial. I think it said "Dr.? is currently in his 2nd year of residency," or something like that. I thought it was kind of funny though. I wish you would see DO 's on something a little more positive though. I am still waiting for them to have a DO on ER, I mean a Do is consulted for the dang show.
 
mastamark said:
Yeah I saw that commercial. I think it said "Dr.? is currently in his 2nd year of residency," or something like that. I thought it was kind of funny though. I wish you would see DO 's on something a little more positive though. I am still waiting for them to have a DO on ER, I mean a Do is consulted for the dang show.

Dude.

I've never watched a complete episode because it's ******ed.

They had a derm resident drop out to become an ER resident.

Because, of course, that happens all the time.
 
Have you guys seen that new commercial about Hydroxycut with Dr. Jon Marshall??? It says he's a 05' graduate of Midwestern. Does anyone know that guy??? I think it's pretty sweet! What do you guys think??
 
Since when has grammer really mattered here.

All i have to say about this commercial is this guy is BRILLIANT. He hasn't even done his residency, but probably paid of his medical education by endorsing a questionable product. Drug companies will love this guy.

Its so nice to see that ethical concerns don't consume every physician
 
HunterGatherer said:
That is not irony.

;)


it was ironic that i saw the thread a couple of hours after my bf and i actually looked up who the hell this "doctor" was who was endorsing this harmful product
 
BigRock said:
...He did go to medical school but it was D.O.
LOL

"but is was DO"? That's bad in your mind huh?

Probably not real big on them hispanics and blacks either. :laugh:
 
JohnnyOU said:
LOL

"but is was DO"? That's bad in your mind huh?

Probably not real big on them hispanics and blacks either. :laugh:


yeah. i agree it was just a DO school...which in reality can't compare to MD
 
YOYO230 said:
yeah. i agree it was just a DO school...which in reality can't compare to MD
Damn those DOs... trying to be doctors and whatnot...
 
YOYO230 said:
yeah. i agree it was just a DO school...which in reality can't compare to MD


::sigh:: Another self-important troll :rolleyes: .

I am willing to wager that you were that kid in high school/college that sat alone in the far left corner of the cafeteria.
 
hooperg said:
::sigh:: Another self-important troll :rolleyes: .

I am willing to wager that you were that kid in high school/college that sat alone in the far left corner of the cafeteria.


And he obviously tried out Hydroxycut and is taking out his frustrations on SDN. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
 
JUST when I put away the popcorn...
 
nvshelat said:
JUST when I put away the popcorn...

Learn this my little one

Thou shall never put away your popcorn at SDN...just pour some more butter over it :laugh:
 
medhacker said:
Learn this my little one

Thou shall never put away your popcorn at SDN...just pour some more butter over it :laugh:


And then bring out the Hydroxycut. :laugh:
 
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