Kansas State c/o 2018 Applicants!!

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Hello fellow interviewees that don't leave until tomorrow, I plan on going to the Denny's near the Quality Inn on Poyntz around 5 if anyone's interested in joining me.
 
Well, I like the school. I honestly don't know how the interview went. They didn't really ask me typical questions. It was nice meeting you @TessaPaws 😀
 
evilsquirrel said:
Well, I like the school. I honestly don't know how the interview went. They didn't really ask me typical questions. It was nice meeting you @TessaPaws 😀
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I know that feeling. My interview felt like they were mostly just fact checking. Best of luck. Seems like you've certainly gone through the gauntlet for KSU, and I hope it all pays off!
 
I actually really liked my interview cause they asked questions based only off of my application. It was pretty neat. Good luck to everyone and hi if we met and didn't realize you were a SDNer. lol.
 
The only reason you should come to K-state is if you are instate or you have no other options and aren't willing to wait another year. As a current student that had KSU as my number one choice, I regret coming here almost daily. I do love are my awesome classmates and the few remarkable teachers / clinicians.
Before committing to a school, I challenge you guys to ask about the failing rate, the school's policy on failing, and how many students decide to return. Most of you will never be in this situation however it's a good indicator on how the administration cares about students. What you quickly realize in vet school is that your classmates become family (the good and the bad) and that losing classmates affects your class as a whole.
KSU truly has amazing teachers but the administration is spiraling downward quickly. The administration is unwilling to talk to students in a professional manner and listen to our concerns. This is evident by the administration's decision to block internet access during class in hopes to raise our grades. This actually had the opposite effect and failed over 10% of a class from a single course. (What other vet school thinks a 10% failing rate is acceptable?) The administration looks to blame anyone or anything instead of actually taking the initiative to help students. Due to the extreme failing rate that plagues KSU, the surgery suites could not accommodate the larger class size. For example, two surgery groups perform surgery without proper surgery lamps (i.e. one group wore head lamps). This past year has had more students fail each preclinical year than previous years.
Ask how much hands on experience you get with live animals and at what point in the curriculum. For potential equine students, the number of clinicians per student in this area has declined. The clinicians have left for positions at other schools. For potential food animal students, this also applies to you as well. Great doctors that are overworked.
Several of our best teachers have already left or will be leaving shortly. Until there are drastic changes in the administration, I cannot recommend KSU. This is all information I wish I would have known before I picked to come here as I had other options.
When I was applying to vet school, I was constantly told that getting in was the hardest part. Once you were accepted, the school became invested in your success and they wanted to keep you around. This has not been the case at KSU.
 
aavet123 said:
The only reason you should come to K-state is if you are instate or you have no other options and aren't willing to wait another year. As a current student that had KSU as my number one choice, I regret coming here almost daily. I do love are my awesome classmates and the few remarkable teachers / clinicians.
Before committing to a school, I challenge you guys to ask about the failing rate, the school's policy on failing, and how many students decide to return. Most of you will never be in this situation however it's a good indicator on how the administration cares about students. What you quickly realize in vet school is that your classmates become family (the good and the bad) and that losing classmates affects your class as a whole.
KSU truly has amazing teachers but the administration is spiraling downward quickly. The administration is unwilling to talk to students in a professional manner and listen to our concerns. This is evident by the administration's decision to block internet access during class in hopes to raise our grades. This actually had the opposite effect and failed over 10% of a class from a single course. (What other vet school thinks a 10% failing rate is acceptable?) The administration looks to blame anyone or anything instead of actually taking the initiative to help students. Due to the extreme failing rate that plagues KSU, the surgery suites could not accommodate the larger class size. For example, two surgery groups perform surgery without proper surgery lamps (i.e. one group wore head lamps). This past year has had more students fail each preclinical year than previous years.
Ask how much hands on experience you get with live animals and at what point in the curriculum. For potential equine students, the number of clinicians per student in this area has declined. The clinicians have left for positions at other schools. For potential food animal students, this also applies to you as well. Great doctors that are overworked.
Several of our best teachers have already left or will be leaving shortly. Until there are drastic changes in the administration, I cannot recommend KSU. This is all information I wish I would have known before I picked to come here as I had other options.
When I was applying to vet school, I was constantly told that getting in was the hardest part. Once you were accepted, the school became invested in your success and they wanted to keep you around. This has not been the case at KSU.
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Out of curiosity what year are you? What were your other options? And why did you ultimately choose KSU?
 
aavet123 said:
The only reason you should come to K-state is if you are instate or you have no other options and aren't willing to wait another year. As a current student that had KSU as my number one choice, I regret coming here almost daily. I do love are my awesome classmates and the few remarkable teachers / clinicians.
Before committing to a school, I challenge you guys to ask about the failing rate, the school's policy on failing, and how many students decide to return. Most of you will never be in this situation however it's a good indicator on how the administration cares about students. What you quickly realize in vet school is that your classmates become family (the good and the bad) and that losing classmates affects your class as a whole.
KSU truly has amazing teachers but the administration is spiraling downward quickly. The administration is unwilling to talk to students in a professional manner and listen to our concerns. This is evident by the administration's decision to block internet access during class in hopes to raise our grades. This actually had the opposite effect and failed over 10% of a class from a single course. (What other vet school thinks a 10% failing rate is acceptable?) The administration looks to blame anyone or anything instead of actually taking the initiative to help students. Due to the extreme failing rate that plagues KSU, the surgery suites could not accommodate the larger class size. For example, two surgery groups perform surgery without proper surgery lamps (i.e. one group wore head lamps). This past year has had more students fail each preclinical year than previous years.
Ask how much hands on experience you get with live animals and at what point in the curriculum. For potential equine students, the number of clinicians per student in this area has declined. The clinicians have left for positions at other schools. For potential food animal students, this also applies to you as well. Great doctors that are overworked.
Several of our best teachers have already left or will be leaving shortly. Until there are drastic changes in the administration, I cannot recommend KSU. This is all information I wish I would have known before I picked to come here as I had other options.
When I was applying to vet school, I was constantly told that getting in was the hardest part. Once you were accepted, the school became invested in your success and they wanted to keep you around. This has not been the case at KSU.
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Thanks for your honesty. I would also like to know why you chose KSU originally over your other options. I was pretty impressed when I toured their facilities but now that you mention that they have oversized classes because of fail rates, it worries me. Also, what is their fail policy?
 
aavet123 said:
The only reason you should come to K-state is if you are instate or you have no other options and aren't willing to wait another year. As a current student that had KSU as my number one choice, I regret coming here almost daily. I do love are my awesome classmates and the few remarkable teachers / clinicians.
Before committing to a school, I challenge you guys to ask about the failing rate, the school's policy on failing, and how many students decide to return. Most of you will never be in this situation however it's a good indicator on how the administration cares about students. What you quickly realize in vet school is that your classmates become family (the good and the bad) and that losing classmates affects your class as a whole.
KSU truly has amazing teachers but the administration is spiraling downward quickly. The administration is unwilling to talk to students in a professional manner and listen to our concerns. This is evident by the administration's decision to block internet access during class in hopes to raise our grades. This actually had the opposite effect and failed over 10% of a class from a single course. (What other vet school thinks a 10% failing rate is acceptable?) The administration looks to blame anyone or anything instead of actually taking the initiative to help students. Due to the extreme failing rate that plagues KSU, the surgery suites could not accommodate the larger class size. For example, two surgery groups perform surgery without proper surgery lamps (i.e. one group wore head lamps). This past year has had more students fail each preclinical year than previous years.
Ask how much hands on experience you get with live animals and at what point in the curriculum. For potential equine students, the number of clinicians per student in this area has declined. The clinicians have left for positions at other schools. For potential food animal students, this also applies to you as well. Great doctors that are overworked.
Several of our best teachers have already left or will be leaving shortly. Until there are drastic changes in the administration, I cannot recommend KSU. This is all information I wish I would have known before I picked to come here as I had other options.
When I was applying to vet school, I was constantly told that getting in was the hardest part. Once you were accepted, the school became invested in your success and they wanted to keep you around. This has not been the case at KSU.
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Idk amigo I've only heard from vets who worked with ksu grads that they are pumping out some of the best food animal vets in the country. Since that's what I want to be ksu has thus far risen to the top. But I suppose that since your a current student I value your opinion.
 
Chkntree4 said:
Idk amigo I've only heard from vets who worked with ksu grads that they are pumping out some of the best food animal vets in the country. Since that's what I want to be ksu has thus far risen to the top. But I suppose that since your a current student I value your opinion.
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I am with you K-state is one of my top 3 because of it's food animal program and that's what I'm interested in as well. I value everyone's opinion but in the end we all have to make the decision that is the best for us and our situation.
 
We have a similar situation with our pre-vet kids here. Since we're already a really small school, we have about 3-5 pre-vet freshmen come in. We only have about 1 senior a year because people either transfer to another program or change majors completely. The biology department doesn't value the pre-vets as much as the pre-med. Is that the sort of situation, where since they've already got us, they don't put in as much effort since most people won't drop vet school after getting in?
 
As a fellow classmate of aavet123, I can say that while circumstances have not been ideal this year it doesn't mean you shouldn't come to K-State. Every school has its set backs and issues and KSU is no different, but I feel that this school is an excellent vet school. I had several other options and ultimately chose K-State because of the friendliness of everyone I met during interview weekend and because of the reputation K-State grads have (I've worked with several and they are all very intelligent vets that I respect dearly). To counter some of the points made by my classmate I offer the following...
  • This year we did lose a unexpected high number of students in our class due to failing a very difficult course. I don't entirely blame the students but I don't think that the faculty is 100% at fault either. Many of those that failed were very close friends and I will miss them dearly. However, I personally know that all those who were in danger of failing did not seek every resource that was offered. The faculty are more than willing to set aside time to help students if they are not understanding the material - what we need to realize is that these teachers are also clinicians as well (they are pulling double duty and we must be understanding that the clients at the hospital require their time as well). While I was not in the same boat as some of my classmates and at risk to fail I did try to meet with the surgery professors once a week to get a good handle on the subject material and I feel that this helped me immensely.
  • While blocking the internet during class seems harsh at first glance, this is actually a good thing. Ask yourself how much you are going to pay attention to a lecture that is particularly boring when everyone sitting in front of you is playing Candy Crush or refreshing Facebook for the tenth time in the past 5 minutes. Trust me I was one of those people that used to be on Facebook during every class. I am shocked by the amount of information that I actually retain from class and how much more I get from even the "boring" classes when I am not given the opportunity to be distracted. For those that internet is a integral part of your daily routine then stay at home - you'll get just as much out of the lecture from the notes alone as you will sitting in class on the internet.
  • As for losing clinicians.. yes several have left in the recent years but only a few have left for other schools and opportunities. Many have simply retired or taken a step back from teaching. Every school loses clinicians for other opportunities. With the economy how it is can you blame an excellent clinician for taking a job that can offer more money? I can't.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that I love it at Kansas State. I fell in love during interview weekend and haven't wavered since then. I will admit that it isn't perfect here and I don't always agree with how things are done but that is their job not mine. Their job is supposed to make me the best vet I can possibly be when I leave their doors and I absolutely feel that they will have succeeded in doing just that.
 
ksuvet15 said:
As a fellow classmate of aavet123, I can say that while circumstances have not been ideal this year it doesn't mean you shouldn't come to K-State. Every school has its set backs and issues and KSU is no different, but I feel that this school is an excellent vet school. I had several other options and ultimately chose K-State because of the friendliness of everyone I met during interview weekend and because of the reputation K-State grads have (I've worked with several and they are all very intelligent vets that I respect dearly). To counter some of the points made by my classmate I offer the following...
  • This year we did lose a unexpected high number of students in our class due to failing a very difficult course. I don't entirely blame the students but I don't think that the faculty is 100% at fault either. Many of those that failed were very close friends and I will miss them dearly. However, I personally know that all those who were in danger of failing did not seek every resource that was offered. The faculty are more than willing to set aside time to help students if they are not understanding the material - what we need to realize is that these teachers are also clinicians as well (they are pulling double duty and we must be understanding that the clients at the hospital require their time as well). While I was not in the same boat as some of my classmates and at risk to fail I did try to meet with the surgery professors once a week to get a good handle on the subject material and I feel that this helped me immensely.
  • While blocking the internet during class seems harsh at first glance, this is actually a good thing. Ask yourself how much you are going to pay attention to a lecture that is particularly boring when everyone sitting in front of you is playing Candy Crush or refreshing Facebook for the tenth time in the past 5 minutes. Trust me I was one of those people that used to be on Facebook during every class. I am shocked by the amount of information that I actually retain from class and how much more I get from even the "boring" classes when I am not given the opportunity to be distracted. For those that internet is a integral part of your daily routine then stay at home - you'll get just as much out of the lecture from the notes alone as you will sitting in class on the internet.
  • As for losing clinicians.. yes several have left in the recent years but only a few have left for other schools and opportunities. Many have simply retired or taken a step back from teaching. Every school loses clinicians for other opportunities. With the economy how it is can you blame an excellent clinician for taking a job that can offer more money? I can't.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that I love it at Kansas State. I fell in love during interview weekend and haven't wavered since then. I will admit that it isn't perfect here and I don't always agree with how things are done but that is their job not mine. Their job is supposed to make me the best vet I can possibly be when I leave their doors and I absolutely feel that they will have succeeded in doing just that.
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I wish I could "like" this a bunch of times. No one school will be perfect all the time. What we as students must do is make use of every resource we have available to us and never give up whether is a rejection letter or a difficult class. We all are here for a reason, we want to be the best veterinarians we can be and if it is truly what we want, we will not let anything get in our way.
 
I have a curiosity question for aavet and ksuvet.

Did you guys join SDN specifically to let us (prospective fellow students) know about your experiences at KSU?
 
I can't focus on any classes right now and am impulsively checking this thread to see if anyone from the last weekend got a letter yet.
 
batsenecal said:
I can't focus on any classes right now and am impulsively checking this thread to see if anyone from the last weekend got a letter yet.
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Me too =[ (well, except for classes I'm at work haha). It took almost a week for the first round to hear their responses. I'm not sure if they would send them out as quickly or just wait and send everything at once closer to the first.
 
We'll find out in a few days. I hate that the mail-lady comes while I'm in class. 🙁. Next week I'm going to be a basket case because it's the same time period that the first interviewees got their acceptance letters AND it's the week before February 1st.
 
Those of you who were acccepted, did you get your letters in the mail? I haven't heard anything yet. I interviewed Jan 4th.
 
4r45553j said:
Those of you who were acccepted, did you get your letters in the mail? I haven't heard anything yet. I interviewed Jan 4th.
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Yes letters came in the mail. I interviewed on the 4th as well. Maybe call them and check, only because I don't always trust the mail...
 
MEA3885 said:
Yes letters came in the mail. I interviewed on the 4th as well. Maybe call them and check, only because I don't always trust the mail...
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Hmm..haven't heard anything yet. Maybe it got mailed to my house instead of my dorm? Or maybe I'm waitlisted or something? Idk?
 
At our interview weekend, they said they would send a real letter to everyone, no matter if it was acceptance, waitlist, and rejections. He said all information would be sent out by Feb 1st, so maybe your stuff is just in the batch getting mailed out this week?
 
4r45553j said:
Hmm..haven't heard anything yet. Maybe it got mailed to my house instead of my dorm? Or maybe I'm waitlisted or something? Idk?
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They sent it to whatever address you put in the computer on interview day
 
MEA3885 said:
They sent it to whatever address you put in the computer on interview day
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Hmm...i cant remember what address I put. (home or school). I'll just wait it out and then contact them if I don't hear by next week. Thanks!
 
I leave for Purdue Thursday sooo hopefully before then!
 
I have been refreshing this thread like crazy to see if anyone has heard anything yet. I guess its because I'm at work and can't physically check my mail. I wonder if this is how crazy people feel. :wideyed:
 
I didn't receive anything today, and I'm in Nebraska. I was holding my breath while this loaded. lol.
 
Scooter157 said:
The mailman came and went yesterday..nothing from K-State. Which is probably for the best since I was at work all day yesterday. I'm guessing this week!
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When did you interview? I'm still waiting to hear too.
 
ksuvet15 said:
As a fellow classmate of aavet123, I can say that while circumstances have not been ideal this year it doesn't mean you shouldn't come to K-State. Every school has its set backs and issues and KSU is no different, but I feel that this school is an excellent vet school. I had several other options and ultimately chose K-State because of the friendliness of everyone I met during interview weekend and because of the reputation K-State grads have (I've worked with several and they are all very intelligent vets that I respect dearly). To counter some of the points made by my classmate I offer the following...
  • This year we did lose a unexpected high number of students in our class due to failing a very difficult course. I don't entirely blame the students but I don't think that the faculty is 100% at fault either. Many of those that failed were very close friends and I will miss them dearly. However, I personally know that all those who were in danger of failing did not seek every resource that was offered. The faculty are more than willing to set aside time to help students if they are not understanding the material - what we need to realize is that these teachers are also clinicians as well (they are pulling double duty and we must be understanding that the clients at the hospital require their time as well). While I was not in the same boat as some of my classmates and at risk to fail I did try to meet with the surgery professors once a week to get a good handle on the subject material and I feel that this helped me immensely.
  • While blocking the internet during class seems harsh at first glance, this is actually a good thing. Ask yourself how much you are going to pay attention to a lecture that is particularly boring when everyone sitting in front of you is playing Candy Crush or refreshing Facebook for the tenth time in the past 5 minutes. Trust me I was one of those people that used to be on Facebook during every class. I am shocked by the amount of information that I actually retain from class and how much more I get from even the "boring" classes when I am not given the opportunity to be distracted. For those that internet is a integral part of your daily routine then stay at home - you'll get just as much out of the lecture from the notes alone as you will sitting in class on the internet.
  • As for losing clinicians.. yes several have left in the recent years but only a few have left for other schools and opportunities. Many have simply retired or taken a step back from teaching. Every school loses clinicians for other opportunities. With the economy how it is can you blame an excellent clinician for taking a job that can offer more money? I can't.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that I love it at Kansas State. I fell in love during interview weekend and haven't wavered since then. I will admit that it isn't perfect here and I don't always agree with how things are done but that is their job not mine. Their job is supposed to make me the best vet I can possibly be when I leave their doors and I absolutely feel that they will have succeeded in doing just that.
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I am also a current student at K-state. I have to disagree with my peer on a couple points. Firstly, my friends who failed DID take advantage of every opportunity afforded to them. Some examples of responses offered by instructors to students seeking extra help went something along the lines of "well, now that internet is turned off, hopefully everyone will do better"--and we didn't. And in at least three instances that I know of, instructors simply did not show up for schedule one-on-one meetings. The new internet policy (essentially that there isn't any accessible on our computers between the hours of 8 am and 12 pm, regardless of whether or not we have class) might be helpful, but we are paying a lot of money to be here, working hard, and voluntarily sitting in a classroom all day and there is no reason to treat us like children, but, if that's the kind of environment in which you thrive it may not adversely affect your learning. And lastly, regarding losing clinicians, I can name twelve who have left or are leaving (and I only know a small fraction of the veterinarians in the hospital), and of course I don't know their personal business, I think it's totally fair and accurate to say that most of them have left or are planning to leave as a result of administrative mismanagement. If you are coming here for food animal medicine or equine medicine, use caution in making your decision, because the phenomenal clinicians who helped turn out the great vets you have all met will not likely be here for you. That doesn't mean there won't be great surgeons and clinicians hired in their place, but this is all information I would have liked to have known before choosing K-state. Ask around; many current clinicians, alumni and others are taking a stand for the students, and I don't think what is happening is any particular secret or even the opinion of a select few students. Good luck to all of you in your endeavors and have patience when checking your mailboxes!
 
Well it is official. I will not be hearing from Kansas before I leave for Purdue. Wah.
 
I'm taking a plane tomorrow morning. I couldn't miss more work thanks to the whole flight cancellation fiasco with Kansas. I will see you there! I will be the grumpy non-morning ginger! :happy:
 
Hi everyone! Long time lurker here... I was just wondering if anyone from the January 4-5th interview weekend has NOT heard from Kansas? I'm nervous because I have not received any mail from them. I know they said anytime before Feb 1st but it's getting so close! Also found it weird how a lot of others have already heard from my same interview weekend. Thanks guys 🙂
 
futuredvmxo said:
Hi everyone! Long time lurker here... I was just wondering if anyone from the January 4-5th interview weekend has NOT heard from Kansas? I'm nervous because I have not received any mail from them. I know they said anytime before Feb 1st but it's getting so close! Also found it weird how a lot of others have already heard from my same interview weekend. Thanks guys 🙂
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I interviewed with someone on January fourth who I met up with again at a later interview. They also had not received any further notification after their interview. I wouldn't let it worry you.
 
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I'm going to be a basket case next week. I can't get back to my dorm until 5 pm Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday. So if the letter comes on any of those days, I won't see it until seven hours after it gets here.
 
Well this is heart breaking. Does Kansas release waitlisted numbers/ranking/whatever?
 
evilsquirrel said:
Well this is heart breaking. Does Kansas release waitlisted numbers/ranking/whatever?
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🙁 Does this mean you heard? My mail hasn't come yet...

Chin up if you're waitlisted - it seems as though there is still a really good chance of getting in if you're waitlisted. I don't remember if they said whether they give out rankings....

Now I'm worried to check my mail (if it ever comes...we're getting a decent amount of snow here). :scared:
 
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