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I think it would be prudent, after that experience, for everyone to count off and see who is still with is!!!

John DO here . . . :clap:
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can you believe I slept 17 hrs straight, not even taking a bathroom break once, altough I opened my eyes once, last night... then I took another 5 hour nap.... that means I slept about 22/33 hours since coming back home... I love being at home!!! oh yeah not to mention ready-made food that's not microwaveable!!!

after the much needed sleep, what-stress still here....
 
can you believe I slept 17 hrs straight, not even taking a bathroom break once, altough I opened my eyes once, last night... then I took another 5 hour nap.... that means I slept about 22/33 hours since coming back home... I love being at home!!! oh yeah not to mention ready-made food that's not microwaveable!!!

after the much needed sleep, what-stress still here....
 
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Howdy,

Welcome back.

Rule number one: Don't fall behind this quarter

Rule number two: Don't forget rule number one

See you tomorrow.
 
Rule #3: bring a crap dice with you to all exams (especially OTM practicals)
 
Yeah Big Sky,...the words for this quarter are "Don't fall behind" In fact, I am going to start studying Anatomy tonight. Oh, wait, there's good TV on tonight...so I have plenty of time still...I will just start Anatomy tomorrow night.. [and the cycle continues]
 
People at Western COMP have waaaay too much time on their hand. They are almost up to Part III on their discussion board!
 
Key to OTM exams -- O = old / T = test / M = memorization ---> Old Test Memorization (and the ability to BS)

Key to DO exams, esp those with BioPsychoScocial questions on it ---> pick the longest, most wishy-washy, touchy-feely, bleeding-hearted liberal answer and it will most likely be correct.
 
Hey all!

This room has been pretty dead so I figured I would try to post and get it started up again.

What's with no immunology scores until thursday? That the rumor I've heard I was wondering if anyone knew why? Did someone not take the test yet?

Hopefully everyone's day went well, test and all!
 
Apparently, three people haven't take the exam yet. Is this justifiable to hold up people's scores??? :p
 
What reasons can you give to not have to take an exam? I understand personal or family emergency. I understand personal illness (especially if you are REALLY sick). But what else is an exceptable reason to NOT take a test? I think even under those instances I would be too scarred NOT to take the test.
 
i heard that the histology remediation exam was monday or tuesday, so those people taking that had an extra day or two to take immuno.
 
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Howdy,

Year 1
Quarter 3
Week 4

So I'm sitting there in Physio and it hits me, I forgot all the equations! I knew them before I walked in but now that my butt was in the chair...Puff...gone.

So at times like these what do you do?
Don't guess to high, not to low. How do you build a strat out of ignorance?!?
 
Howdy,

BUMP!

Come on people show some school spirit. POST!

Can you finish this Quote:

________ for cash, _______ for beer.
 
BSD, everyone is studying for the thick OTM packet, what do you expect? I should be too instead of goofing around on this board.
 
Just wondering if anyone else is having trouble getting thier butts in gear this quarter? Studying is the absolute LAST thing I want to do!
 
Howdy,

Absolutely! I took yesterday off and did stuff around the house, such as getting the garden plot ready and replacing the kitchen faucet,etc. Spent the majority of the day outside in the Sun!

Seven weeks left in this Quarter.
 
BigSky,
I think the words you were looking for were WORK and LIVE.
Happy studying. I didn't lift a book or note all weekend. ....over 10 hours on the golf course BABY!!!!
 
don't you just love AFFOM tests?

My favorite part, as I sit here studying, is finding all of the differences between anatomy and OTM or OTM and OTM. Kuchera and FOM are disagreeing on a few details that seem fairly important to our knowledge of sacral mechanics. :wink:

I just hope that they lable the source of the questions tommorrow. If they don't I think I will have to mark both L3 and S2 for any questions on weight bearing.
 
Yes, that packet (article) about osteopathic consideration in GU system was full of gibberish. It was one of the worst I've read. Stuff like this hinders learning rather than helping.

Thank god they got rid of that half-time buzzer in the practicals. They got us running all over the place like a bunch of rats finding food last time. AMazing what conditioning can do!
 
Attention Please! Motivation...Paging...Motivation.
Motivation...if you are in the building, you are needed at the service desk

20 minutes later...

Attention...Motivation..Paging..Motivation
If Motivation is in the building, you have a lost child at the service desk who is in search of her Motivation.

1 yr later....

'yes sir, I heard you, no mayo on that whopper. Okay, and extra pickles, gotcha.'

'Sir, I have that you ordered a super-size order of fries with a double-bacon-Whopper with extra mustard. Can I just tell you, sir, what that extra sodium is doing to you? You see, in a former life, I was a medical student. However, I failed 2nd quarter physiology because my Motivation abandoned me. Anyway, if you have a minute, I would like you to read this phamphlet I have on excess sodium intake. You see, sodium doesn't really have anything to do with the osmolality of your plasma, but more with the volume of your plasma. Therefore, increased sodium intake may cause you to retain water...oh, okay, I suppose it isn't any of my business. Yes, sir, I agree that you do look very fit in your tank-top...No, sir, I don't need to see that you still fit into your high school swim team speedos.....Well, sir, I was just trying to help..uh....I've been working here for several months sir...Yes, sir, I try to educate all my customers on the facts of osmolality vs body fluid volume control....No, sir, you aren't the first person to tell me to shut-up.....Yes, sir, your children are quite lovely, spitting image of you, sir.....My manager's name? Oh, that would be Barton, he's not here right now because school doesn't get out until 3...No, I am just the order-taker-girl...Okay, sir, that will be 6.79 for your meal. Have a wonderful, water-retaining day, sir!"

Okay, back to studying.
 
You are hilarious, LL! Thanks for the brief break from reality!

You reminded me of the (supposedly true) story i heard last quarter that some students ordered pizza and the following conversation ensued:

Pizza guy, "Here's your pizza. Oh i see you are studying."

Students, "Yes, we are KCOM students."

Pizza guy, "Yeah, I used to be a KCOM student."

oh, crap. better study phys . . .
 
Only a couple of hours to go until that long-awaited phys exam! Wow. I am on Pins-n-Needles. Feels like Christmas Eve!!! Let's just home ol' Santa Sexton takes it easy on us. That would be a blessing, because one thing is for certain....on Friday, Mr. JR will NOT take it easy on us!!! Anyone know how many days until graduation?
 
How bad is it that I have decided ONLY to study the transcriptions from 2002 for this anatomy test? I just don't think I have time to study anything else!! I'm besides the detailed notes we revieved in class.
 
The party begins sharply at 9am. Bring your pals, but don't bring your Anatomy book.
 
ahh... now is the calm before the storm. Slow breezes, warm sun. and just to think, after the next 3 days or so, it'll be no sleep for a month.
:clap: dontcha love it?
 
GEEZ!!! Here, we have this nice 'free' weekend and week and we are even slacking on keeping up with our posts! C'mon!!! Somebody MUST have something to say!!!!!!
 
So I"m sitting in Anatomy lecture because I have nothing better to do. Isn't that sad. I have already determined that I get very little out of lecture but there is no ID quiz so I have little raeson to head to lab early.

I've tried to follow the lecture but find that with all those pretty markers on my desk I have a tendency to draw pretty pictures and make cards for family members and friend. I don't think my card making skill have improved since first grade. Except now, they are likely to include a scematic drawing of the inside of the nose or the layers of of the scrotum.

This is pretty much just a rambling post because I am bored and becuase it's much better than just typing BUMP.

I hope you all are enjoying lecture as much as I am, I'm off to play some snood.

nicole
 
I't gotten quite around here lately. I can tell what week it is. The worst week of the quarter! The week before finals. Hang in there soon you will be second years and then third years and from what I can see it doesn't get much better than this, other than maybe being a 4th year etc.

It is all worth it. All of the hard work pays off when you are presenting a paient to your attending and all of a sudden some crazy words come out of your mouth that you haden't hurd since Dr. Flesner uttered them during the 2nd quarter of Biochem and you were sure you had forgotten them if you even knew them at all. but somehow they snuck out of your mouth an now you just have to hope no one asks you to explain!

Long story longer, first year is great in a weird sort of way but it all only gets better.

THE REWARD IS WELL WORTH THE PAIN!
 
Thanks, Carrie, I know there are alot of people needing that right now!
 
Um, where do I even begin?????
I think I am 0 for 2 (and about to be 0 for 3 after the anatomy quiz) on my assessments this week! OUCH - is all I have to say after that micro exam. You know the question about the cerebral lesions or whatever? Yeah, that was me during that test.

Here is my plan. I am quitting school. I can't pay back all this money, so I am going to shoot off 3 of my toes and claim disability. Hopefully, after the injury, I won't have any pseudomonas set in or anything.

The best I can hope for is to scrap this quarter and take a big hit in grades. Then, start over this summer fresh! (Kind of like when you over eat and just say you'll have to start your diet tomorrow!!)

Is anyone else already figuring how many points they need to pass???? I think I started that somewhere around Easter.

I am achy, I have a stiff neck and my joints hurt like hell from sitting all the time. Or, could it be something else???? Oh my gosh! I feel feverish! Wait, yup, there it is.....fatigue - WHAM - just hit me. Anyone have a long needle and some Bordet-gengou agar???????
 
Man,
You guys sound like you're are hurtin' for certain..
I came back to test for the OSCE (From AZ..) and I heard that the first years are getting slammed..
It seems like it's a different course every year. I never would have thought that Micro would be one of them.
I have come to realize though that every year that I can remember, it's only been three, student agonize over their classes. But soon it'll pass, and you'll be so glad that your first two years are done..

I would like to suggest that you don't count out a quarter to start fresh in another. Do the best you can. What else are you going to do out there?

Good luck,
Duke
 
It's me again..
Man, coming back to the Ville was quite depressing! I forgot how utterly quiet it gets during this time of year..

I would like to repeat Carrie's message, it gets better.. Then it get worse.. But I'm not there yet so I can only tell you it gets better. I am currently in Az now, and almost finishing up my third year. I spend a lot of time in the clinics and hospitals but I also have more free time than I have in the past two years. Not to say I'm not studying but it's a lot different. Instead of sitting around listening to a professor talk about outdated drugs no one uses anymore you're planning the Tx plan for a patient. Instead of studying for Anatomy for 18 hours straight, you're brushing up on Calot's triangle for the lap chole you're scrubbing in for in the morning..

Sometimes I wondered, especially in my first two years, if it was worth sacrificing the best years of my life to help others. I wondered that almost everyday... Yeah, but you get over it and realize you have an exam tomorrow and you still have three years to go... Sorry. :p

The second years are stressing out too. They have boards in a month.

Good luck and hang in there!
Duke
 
whew! move over micro, here's something phys-ier!
 
To all you folks still back there in the 'Ville -- as distant as it seems, every single test and every single lecture and every day you skip/attend class -- you are closer to hitting the wards!!! My worst day in the 3rd year was better than most any day from the first 2!! It is soooo much nicer to be around people, patients and not a bunch of stressed out medical students.

I wish you all the best of luck for exam week and finals week!

First years, you're about to do your preceptorships -- this WILL recharge your batteries. It will remind you of why you came to medical school. You will love it. And then, you will be the big folks on campus. You will find it very humorous to see how stressed/anxious the newbies are when they arrive -- not out of sadistic satisfaction, but because you will see yourself and your own fears in their eyes...and that will serve to punctuate just how far you have come!

Second years -- DAMN! You're almost MS-IIIs!! The only monster you must vanquish is the Boards. Once you're done with that, you will realize that they were not actually as bad as you feared they would be and then, your off to begin life on the wards!

And now -- I am about to begin MY SENIOR YEAR!!!! NEVER thought it would ARRIVE!!
 
I'm assuming that most of you have heard that they are NOT changing the anatomy test. Amy knew after the test, which means someone approached her about it this morning.

Can I just say, that this class really, really pissed me off sometimes. I can't believe anyone would be so selfish as to make everyone take the test a day earlier. I have heard some of the rumors as to who approached her and why and frankly the excuses seem lame. Thank god I have yet to hear that someone is worried about the OTM final.

Anyway, if anyone finds out for sure who said something to amy, I would really like to know. Email me privatly please. I just really need to call and nicely ask them what thier reasoning was for possibly making thier classmates fail a test. I know that sounds harsh but it's true. Heck, I may even be the one that fails the test.

I know that even if I had something else planned, there is no way I would have EVER said something to amy because I know that someone else could benefit from the extra time. It just blows my mind that someone can put them selves about 100 of thier fellow clasemates.

I'm done with my rant now. It just really really pisses me off.

Good luck studing, I wish you all good luck on phys.
 
nebaker,
I, too, heard that it wasn't going to be changed, but I hadn't heard who or why. However, I did overhear some people talking that the 2nd years who are in the anatomy class may have had some sort of a conflict. Given that, I suppose we can't really complain about a situation that is out of our hands. However, what I was thinking...and this is totally just my imagination running WILD...is what if someone already moved their OTM final so they could have a 4 day weekend instead of the 3 days we already get and go home or something. THAT would upset me. I know I would certainly put the best interest of the class before my plans. But, we don't know what's really going on. I say we give the person the benefit-of-the-doubt until we know...which we never will anyway. Also, you have to consider that some people honestly just like to make it harder on the rest of us.

You'll do fine on the exam!
 
ok... this is when it's hard not to behave like a 2 year old and jump and down and pitch a fit! This is so frustrating!! One simple day, and we couldn't all agreee!

I really would like to extend the benefit of the doubt, but when rumors fly about putting personal plans before the best interest of the class it's really hard to remember to do that. Grrrrrrrr....
 
Although it would have been nice to have an extra day to study for the upcoming monster Anatomy test, I personally am appalled at the childish way I have heard people in our class discuss this decision. Amy was very good about making sure EVERYONE had access to the schedule last quarter and most of us who bothered to look more than a week in advance have known this week's schedule all quarter. Why, all of a sudden, is it now such a problem--because we didn't properly prepare? Failing to prepare does not constitute an emergency on the behalf of the whole class. I am one of those people who could use the extra time, but I refuse to blame the problem on "selfish" people. I am the one who did not prepare fully, even though I KNEW the exam was scheduled for that day, so expecting someone to change their plans, personal or not, would be EXTREMELY inconsiderate and selfish on my part, and it is on the part of others, too, if they are choosing to be hateful about this very simple decision.

Just my opinion, like it or not . . . :rolleyes:
 
While I do agree that people had plenty of time to review the schedule before the quarter started, I dont think that is/was the answer to the problem that we are currently having. How many of us knew before this quarter that we would be slammed so hard by our classes? Having spoken with second years and other people, it seemed like some of our classes would be hard... but fair. I cant speak for the rest of the class... but all that I am feeling right now is the 'hard' part.

In my opinion, it works like this.... we had no idea we would be hit this hard by some of our classes. It isnt a lack of 'preparing' or 'hard-work'. We are all very tired... we want all the time we can get... people are just trying to survive.

I truly believe that double elle said it best...
"Also, you have to consider that some people honestly just like to make it harder on the rest of us". I mean seriously folks... when you cant get the whole class to come together and all agree that extra credit in a class is a positive thing, do you think that you will ever get a unanimous decision about anything???

P.S. The steps leading down from your soap-box are right over here ----->
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by John DO:
• I am the one who did not prepare fully, even though I KNEW the exam was scheduled for that day, so expecting someone to change their plans, personal or not, would be EXTREMELY inconsiderate and selfish on my part, and it is on the part of others, too, if they are choosing to be hateful about this very simple decision.
•••••Congratulations. You're a bigger, better person than the rest of us.

And who said anything about being unprepared? Prepared or not, and extra day to breathe would have been nice.

To be fair your point is well taken - that those of us who are gumbling are being equally selfish. I'm sure I would react differently if I could actualy hear from someone who didn't want to make the change... but as I only heard from people who did, and I'm tired and stressed, I'm gonna grumble. Better here in a forum than to a patient or family member or friend...

Good luck to everyone in the morning!
 
Please allow me to remind everyone that no one knows for certain why this thing didn't go thru. That being said, we can only imagine that someone already had plans and 'just couldn't do it' - and we get upset by that. That's the natural response to the situation, because most of us wanted the change and couldn't imagine anyone not wanting it - so we get angry about it. I think we all got on a roll of 'wow, that would be great!' - only to be disappointed when it didn't happen.

As for the selfish/non-selfish debate - all I know is that if I saw 149 of my classmates stressing out and really needing that extra day, I would do whatever I could to help. I don't 'expect' anyone to give up anything for me. Learning the material is my responsibility. I just know what I would do (and have done) for others. However, it still goes back to the fact that it may be something out of the person's control and no amount of bitching is going to make any difference. Chances are the person feels bad about it and will NEVER admit that he/she was the one that couldn't do it. I said earlier that some people like to make it harder on the rest of us...and I believe that to be 100% true with some individuals. However, I would rather believe that someone feels really bad about the situation and honestly can't do anything to change it.

As for being prepared/not being prepared. That really doesn't matter. I mean, there are so many points to be gained/lost that last week that the 40 point unit exam isn't that big of a deal. (Unless of course you NEED those points!)

Yes, having the extra day to study would have been great. But, I can also see myself using it as an excuse to sleep or relax, since that seems to be the way I spend my time anymore! (Darned little parasite inside me!!)

Look at it this way, it would have been nice.. but now we have that day that we can, perhaps, blow off because that exam is over-with. Well, unless you are like me and REALLY need to make up some points in OTM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This quarter is almost over, guys. We are all hating life right now- but in 2 weeks, we will all be home, on vacation, getting married, or whatever everyone will be doing. It will fly by. Hang in there!!!! (and, please, someone help me hang on, too!!!!!)
 
Howdy,

Who left a soapbox in the middle of the floor?

I did it (not really, but I need to pad my post count) and now you can blame me for the Gross test not being moved. I did it because I want to see Star Wars Episode II, Attack of the Clones with the entire class that evening rather than looking at JohnDO for another night pondering the mysteries of multi color drawing to a lecture that I couldn't attend because I was too busy playing catchup, only to score a 2 or 3.5 on an ID Quiz, the last one until the next one, after a busy week of hoop jumping for the OTM and the Phys Dept.

I think I will rant...

[This section deleted]

Ok now that I got that out of my system back to Endocrine.
 
at least I got this chat room active again!!

Here are a few clarifications....the person that is having the OTM final moved to thursday said that he/she would NOT oppose the changing of the anatomy test. What a wonderfully unselfish person! So he/she is not to blame.

The other reason I heard is, in my opinion, is not as good, but does involve a prior commitment made on that day since it was a day off.

Frankly, I think there are a lot of people in this class that are just not flexible. They hate change. They don't care how it benefits or effects others. They are selfish and can only see how it will effect them. I apolize if the previous sentence should say affect, I can't the words apart.

Also, I think that there are a lot of people who learn things very easily and quickly and don't understand how don't. They just assume that if they can study for two are three days and get an A or a B, that everyone else who puts in the same amount of time and effort should be able to do the same thing. I hate to break it to them, but that is not at all true. I know people who study for a minimun of 8 hours a day and are still barely pulling C's. An extra day would benefit those people SOOOO much. Not everyone has had an anatomy class before, or has a photographic memory, or can read something once and remember it. I even know of people in this class with learing disabilites who have to study many times hard than others. They people are not unprepared that just need more time than others to learn the same amout of material.

Another thing about being prepared...Yeah, I start out the semester with the goal to read my notes every night and stay caught up in all my class. But then what happens....we get slammed with tests and end up putting all of our concentration into the upcoming test and let our grand plans of staying caught up in ALL of our classes fall by the way-side. This is not slacking, or not being prepared for classes, this is the only way to pass tests.

So, in conclusion, I would like to say that I don't care if I sound like a 2 year old...I really think it sucks that we couldn't have the test moved and I still believe that selfishness was the problem or at least lack of empathy or understanding for a fellow classmate. If you can't see how selfish it is to make 149 other people suffer because of something you could most likly, individually work out with the department that I think you are the one that needs to grow up. (note: the last comment was not directed at anyone on this list. It's just something i would like to say to the person/people who don't want the test moved.)

Here is a great movie quote we should all take to heart in this situation. Quick, what's it from...

"The good of the many out-weigh the good of the few, or the good of the one."

Someone please take my soap box away from me.

nebaker
 
Well at least we are all socializing on SDN <img border="0" alt="[Laughy]" title="" src="graemlins/laughy.gif" /> After all, it isn't like we have an exam in the morning that we need to be studying for <img border="0" alt="[Wowie]" title="" src="graemlins/wowie.gif" />

Good luck to everyone in the morning!
 
Sure would be nice to see the light at the end of the tunnel sometimes. I am starting to believe the tunnel A) is too long for light to make it to the other end. B)dark at the other end. C) Being blocked by Dean Gabers behind. D) only observable by students with a functional optic nerve. Somebody show me the light cause I keep running into the tunnel walls.
 
Sidebendthis,

Consider yourself lucky! Some of us are still trying to find the tunnel!!!!!!
 
Sidebendthis,

Can you give me directions to the tunnel? Or, were the directions included in the Bugs-video that I never got around to watching??? Is there a published flow-chart on how to find the tunnel?

Wait, maybe the directions are buried deep in these phys notes somewhere....

"To find the light at the end of the tunnel, you must first find the tunnel. To do this, you must begin to move. In doing this, you will initially use ATP and creatine phosphate as energy. After searching for the tunnel for a while, your body will begin to produce small amounts of growth hormone that correspond to the level of activity (how hard you are searching for the tunnel). Once you spot the tunnel, you begin running. If you sprint, you use fast-twitch glycolytic fibers that will get you there fast, as long as you don't have far to go. However, if you spot the tunnel far, far away..you'd hope your body has slow-twich (red) fibers that have plenty of mitochondria. Okay, once you find the tunnel, you decide to take a nap before venturing in to search for the light at the end. After all, this can be a 4 (sometimes 5) year journey. You lie down and immediately your body goes into a semi-fasting state. Cortisol levels rise due to the hypoglycemia. Once you awaken, you are ready to search for the light at the end of the tunnel. Only, you don't know which branch of the tunnel to take. So, in your effort to find the light as quickly as possible, you tread the distance on that concrete. This creates compression force on the long bones of the lower limb and causes osteoblast activity to accelerate in the areas where stress is placed. Also, growth hormone has increased again because of all that walking you are doing. This means the randle effect has come into play and your body is doing lipolysis and conserving glucose (for the brain and blood cells). In addition, walking is an aerobic activity. This means your VO2-max will improve. However, you can do much more to improve this if you'd run the tunnels for at least 20-30 minutes a day. After searching for the tunnel for 4 years, given all these things, there is at least one major benefit that comes from looking, and looking for the light.................

At the end of all that searching, you have strong bones and a hot bod.
 
That was time well spent on that last post! Of course you had the intention of reviewing physio for tomorrow right? :) That was pretty educational!
 
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