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SportPonies said:
I already had you as one of my two convert choices, sooooo.....
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Yeah you didn't really give reason for that, as far as I saw.
I'm hoping whoever rezzed me can at some point speak up about that (now would be nice. For real. Think we're close enough to endgame that it's ok).
And I would be a bad choice for conversion because well, see above, people would be looking at me already due to the rez.

Honestly I think pip and I are both way too obvious of convert choices, but it kinda depends on who the original is.
 
Side note, but wanted to respond...

capri1722 said:
Pippy - the quietness is unusual to me, I know she's said it's real life stuff, but I thought she said at sign ups she would be more active later in the game. Idk maybe I'm remembering wrong, but I'll give the benefit of the doubt here because there's not much else sketchy about her.
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I bet if you were to look at my overall post count, it would not be as low as you are implying here.

Besides, I think I actually tend to post more when I'm wolfing. Gotta drum up that fake sketch, yo. Don't do that by ignoring the thread for most of the day and being all like "oh hey what'd I miss?"
 
WildZoo said:
Yeah you didn't really give reason for that, as far as I saw.
I'm hoping whoever rezzed me can at some point speak up about that (now would be nice. For real. Think we're close enough to endgame that it's ok).
And I would be a bad choice for conversion because well, see above, people would be looking at me already due to the rez.
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Yeah but...if it was a player rez, how would wolves know that no one would claim it?

If you were rezzed as a wolf, there would be no choice involved, so that's kind of a dumb argument. You wouldn't be chosen as a convert because you'd already be a convert. So basically you're saying you wouldn't be chosen again for something you were already "chosen" for? Well...duh 😉

Based on the write up, I could see you being mod-rezzed, though.

On the other hand, it would kinda be a cool 3-way mayor tie mechanic to leave 1 person untouched as village, auto-convert 1 into wolf by "killing" them for a day, and grant the mayor role/some kind of village PR to the 3rd. Basically boosts both factions.
 
@SportPonies I'm in eat-my-hat territory wrt Dubz's affiliation.
capri1722 said:
I'm fairly certain there was only one conversion this game and it was N3. And I'm pretty sure but less sure that Dubz would be a low-priority conversion target since she already had some sketch points from no one claiming her rez.
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capri1722 said:
Dubz - strong village lean
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capri1722 said:
I'm like pretty sure Dubz is not a convert.
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WildZoo said:
Yeah you didn't really give reason for that, as far as I saw.
I'm hoping whoever rezzed me can at some point speak up about that (now would be nice. For real. Think we're close enough to endgame that it's ok).
And I would be a bad choice for conversion because well, see above, people would be looking at me already due to the rez.

Honestly I think pip and I are both way too obvious of convert choices, but it kinda depends on who the original is.
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Officially claimed.
No I don't have a second one. (Edit: otherwise I would have used it a long time ago)
As for why I didn't reveal days earlier, I saw no need.
As for why I didn't reveal ~20 minutes earlier, I was double checking D2/D3/D4 for any change in Dubz's tone to see if maybe she was converted N3 but I don't think she was.
 
PippyPony said:
Yeah but...if it was a player rez, how would wolves know that no one would claim it?

If you were rezzed as a wolf, there would be no choice involved, so that's kind of a dumb argument. You wouldn't be chosen as a convert because you'd already be a convert. So basically you're saying you wouldn't be chosen again for something you were already "chosen" for? Well...duh 😉

Based on the write up, I could see you being mod-rezzed, though.

On the other hand, it would kinda be a cool 3-way mayor tie mechanic to leave 1 person untouched as village, auto-convert 1 into wolf by "killing" them for a day, and grant the mayor role/some kind of village PR to the 3rd. Basically boosts both factions.
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Even someone claiming my rez doesn't necessarily clear me. See: The Little Mermaid, DRoP, whatever other games where villagers rezzed wolves or chaos. I just know I personally wouldn't convert a rezzed player. Bad juju.

Second part is not what I was saying, obviously if I was rezzed as a wolf then we go back to the silly theory about skipping a kill to distract from me or something.

And well, as for being mod rezzed, hopefully that's been cleared up now 😛
 
WildZoo said:
Even someone claiming my rez doesn't necessarily clear me. See: The Little Mermaid, DRoP, whatever other games where villagers rezzed wolves or chaos. I just know I personally wouldn't convert a rezzed player. Bad juju.

Second part is not what I was saying, obviously if I was rezzed as a wolf then we go back to the silly theory about skipping a kill to distract from me or something.

And well, as for being mod rezzed, hopefully that's been cleared up now 😛
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Teeps was chaos in Sega as well
 
capri1722 said:
No I don't have a second one.
As for why I didn't reveal days earlier, I saw no need.
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:eyebrow:

capri1722 said:
As for why I didn't reveal ~20 minutes earlier, I was double checking D2/D3/D4 for any change in Dubz's tone to see if maybe she was converted N3 but I don't think she was.
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This is...not a great strategy when it comes to dubz and wolfing. Just some friendly advice.
 
PippyPony said:
:eyebrow:


This is...not a great strategy when it comes to dubz and wolfing. Just some friendly advice.
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Figured I would answer any question that might have come up. Also if I had a second one why would I have held onto it this long and not, y'know, rezzed our seer or protector?

Second part, didn't know that, even so I'm not sold on Dubz as a N3 convert.
 
SportPonies said:
Would a wolf try to back up a wolf this blatantly, do you think?
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No, probably not. I just don't like waiting until lylo to reveal something like that, because it makes people's lives harder. Eyebrow raise is mostly feelings of judgement lmao (sorry, capri)

I did have Capri down as either a carnivorous rezzer or blocker, fwiw, so it's not entirely unexpected.
 
SportPonies said:
Would a wolf try to back up a wolf this blatantly, do you think?
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See that's the kind of high risk, high reward play I would go for. There's a chance you tank the game BUT the possible rewards! Makes my wolfy heart tingle.

Sadly, not what's happening here. And probably not a desperate enough situation to go for it either.

I was rezzed as a bongo. Still vanilla.
 
PippyPony said:
idk, if there's a village poacher out there, this would be kinda desperate times...unless they took out that villager for you, no? lmao
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Hmmm maybe. Idk though. The poacher was blocked, yeah? At least by the writeup it would seem so. Wolves probably know who it is.
 
WildZoo said:
I'm concerned about this poacher business too because that changes things...especially if it's not a village vig (which i really don't think a poacher would be a villager), worst case scenario they shoot a villager tonight AND wolf kill goes through
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WildZoo said:
Hmmm maybe. Idk though. The poacher was blocked, yeah? At least by the writeup it would seem so. Wolves probably know who it is.
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Btw, anyone else see a problem here?

Raise your hand/like this post when you see it 😉 Yes, this is also a like-fishing attempt in addition to being a real comment.
 
Here's where I'm at - basically ordered from wolfiest to least wolfy when thinking of originals, then with added commentary on likelihood of conversion. This is off the top of my head, I want to do some rereading but also have to work on a project soooo we'll see.

sporty - floated to the top after magical reshuffling. Not because I necessarily have strong wolfy things (I've gotten twinges, no strong red flags) but I have good reasons for everyone else not to be an original, mostly having to do with staffy interactions. Unless I'm missing something, I don't see those interactions between sporty and staffy. I do want to go back and look at the mayor vote though, because it is bold for a wolf to go for mayor. ETA: if not the original, decent convert choice due to possibility of mayor abilities. This is offset by it looking suspicious for her not to be attacked. So probably about as good a choice as capri.
MJ - always always ALWAYS take my reads here with a grain of salt. In fact, best to straight up ignore them. I'm right sometimes, but when I'm wrong I'm like...super wrong. Anyway, that being said. I don't think he's wolfing it up here. Seems to care about this game a little more than usual. Pushed the staffy lynch further post-sub request, didn't feel like a wolf move. Low chance of conversion imo. Only I'm crazy enough to do that 😛
pipperoni - led the staffy lynch out of the gate. She has bussed her single wolf partner before, but not that aggressively...more attention drawing, less lynch driving (if I'm remembering correctly). Always a good conversion choice, but imo too obvious...people start to wonder why she's still alive late game.
jboo - interactions with staffy have me leaning heavily on not original. Could have been some good bussing, but the follow through just isn't what I would expect for a wolf that is actually trying to get that cred. It feels like village indecision. Midling possibility of conversion. I'd have to look at how people were generally feeling about her at that time, I don't remember.
coop - I'm thinking very, very much cleared for original status based on interactions with staffy. honestly would have been my choice for conversion though. Just enough inherent sketch for it to make sense that she hasn't been killed yet,
capri - not an original. Conversion...maybe? Off and on suspicion on her and not any great villaging to ride on. Wolves wouldn't have known she would have a PR to claim, so I feeeel like not the best choice.
 
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capri1722 said:
@SportPonies I'm in eat-my-hat territory wrt Dubz's affiliation.







Officially claimed.
No I don't have a second one. (Edit: otherwise I would have used it a long time ago)
As for why I didn't reveal days earlier, I saw no need.
As for why I didn't reveal ~20 minutes earlier, I was double checking D2/D3/D4 for any change in Dubz's tone to see if maybe she was converted N3 but I don't think she was.
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Interdasting, Capri I approve of your rez choice however this plays out. I think we should look for our last original I don't think it's capri, dubz or pip. That leaves sporty, MJ, or jboo.

Sporty what were your thoughts before jumping all over Dubz for the (potential) typo, who were you going to vote for?
MJ whenever you get off work you owe me some reads (or at least some Mac & Cheese???)
Jboo the strongest defense you have was something mel said about you and Staffy is that correct? Do you have any other suggestions for who the wolf might be?
 
PippyPony said:
Btw, anyone else see a problem here?

Raise your hand/like this post when you see it 😉 Yes, this is also a like-fishing attempt in addition to being a real comment.
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If you see a problem it's because your misinterpreting what I'm saying, yo.
Poacher was blocked last night according to my read of the writeup. If the blocker is a wolf, wolves now know who the poacher is. They may choose to kill this person to prevent being killed themselves.

Then we get into some order of operations stuff about them shooting at each other but, ya know, that gets complicated.
 
WildZoo said:
If you see a problem it's because your misinterpreting what I'm saying, yo.
Poacher was blocked last night according to my read of the writeup. If the blocker is a wolf, wolves now know who the poacher is. They may choose to kill this person to prevent being killed themselves.
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But I thought you said poacher was concerning because they were probably wolfy 😛

Flippity-floppity today
 
PippyPony said:
But I thought you said poacher was concerning because they were probably wolfy 😛

Flippity-floppity
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I didn't...I said poacher was concerning because it's likely not villager. Not villager does not equal wolfy. That's why i said it would be 4:2:1.
You're the one who said it might be a wolf, and I said sure, then we're super ****ed. But I think unlikely unless lone wolf, because that would mean wolves have a blocker, poacher, and convert. Staffy was vanilla i think so i don't see the other wolf getting two abilities.
 
In addition to the poacher being blocked. Makes no sense for blocker to be village, so unless the wolves decided to block one of their own (always a possibility, but why not just use the extra kill), I don't think it makes much sense for them to be in the same pack.
 
WildZoo said:
I didn't...I said poacher was concerning because it's likely not villager. Not villager does not equal wolfy. That's why i said it would be 4:2:1.
You're the one who said it might be a wolf, and I said sure, then we're super ****ed. But I think unlikely unless lone wolf, because that would mean wolves have a blocker, poacher, and convert. Staffy was vanilla i think so i don't see the other wolf getting two abilities.
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Ah so we are chaos hunting now at lylo? Cool cool, sounds like a good plan. Why aren't wolves driving sketch points towards this chaos person who they know about because they blocked her last night?
 
D6 Lynch Tally
Sporty (1) - Coops
Capri (1) - jboo
Jboo () -
coop () -
dubz (2) - sporty, pippy

Missing: dubz, capri, mj

4/7

Deadline ~ 3 hours

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Incidentally I didn't take likelihood of third party-ness into account in my reads because I'm bad at figuring those out and it's more important we find a wolf. But I did just have an idea! What if "tracker" (i.e. mayor) actually means poacher?
 
PippyPony said:
Ah so we are chaos hunting now at lylo? Cool cool, sounds like a good plan. Why aren't wolves driving sketch points towards this chaos person who they know about because they blocked her last night?
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In what universe am I chaos hunting? I was expanding on the number possibilities. Did not factor chaos into my reads at all because that's not the priority. ETA: And because pretty much anyone could be chaos.

As for the second part, maybe they are pushing the lynch, but it's not like they can be like "Hey I blocked this person! They're a poacher! Lynch them!"
 
What would the odds be that Sporty blocked YK on N1, decided to use that as "evidence" that YK was up to something that night (which was that she was trying to protect Paws) and later claim tracker data based on her mayor description? Then backed off eventually because it got too convoluted with the protector claim?

Afaik we have no evidence of an actual tracker. The only thing we have seen for night results is protection and blocking.

I feel like I need to read the write ups again to see what they're implying. Gotta drive home first though lol
 
PippyPony said:
What would the odds be that Sporty blocked YK on N1, decided to use that as "evidence" that YK was up to something that night (which was that she was trying to protect Paws) and later claim tracker data based on her mayor description? Then backed off eventually because it got too convoluted with the protector claim?

Afaik we have no evidence of an actual tracker. The only thing we have seen for night results is protection and blocking.

I feel like I need to read the write ups again to see what they're implying. Gotta drive home first though lol
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Oh man, that sweet sweet lylo tinfoil
Did sporty ever explain what her strong reasons for the yk lynch were?
 
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