MarWWel -- GAME THREAD

[potentialsheltervet]

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Nah, I have distinct memories of multiple different noobs challenging me as early as their first wolf outing (most recently would be Bob, I believe). It has more to do with confidence than experience level.

Bold of you to assume I would have the confidence.

 

[justafluff]

Why wouldn't you? If I recall correctly your post was "does that count for us for parity?" or something which would make total sense to be in wolfchat. I don't want to beat a dead horse as far as that post is concerned though.

Cause I wouldn’t need to say “us” if I was referring to my packmates. Cause naturally, wolves need to reach parity so when talking about parity “us” is assumed. And it’s not like villagers don’t ever think about parity; in StardeWW how many times did you do the math for the wolves?

 

[Truenamer]

Cause I wouldn’t need to say “us” if I was referring to my packmates. Cause naturally, wolves need to reach parity so when talking about parity “us” is assumed. And it’s not like villagers don’t ever think about parity; in StardeWW how many times did you do the math for the wolves?

That's a good point, I did just do parity math about fifteen times in the last game.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Bold of you to assume I would have the confidence.

You've already voted me so the capacity is there. If you were a chicken, you never would have touched me to begin with.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Cause I wouldn’t need to say “us” if I was referring to my packmates. Cause naturally, wolves need to reach parity so when talking about parity “us” is assumed. And it’s not like villagers don’t ever think about parity; in StardeWW how many times did you do the math for the wolves?

I think once, incorrectly.
I'm not going to die on this hill because I'm not even sure I'm yeeting you this cycle but I definitely said "us" when talking about parity in wolfchat in BoWWling. If you wouldn't in this situation, fine. But I'm not going to village code you over semantics.

 

[SportPonies]

I think Dana sounds fairly village in these last few pages but I’d want to compare to her noob game

She was convincingly village for most of that game as well, at least in part due to her sheer length and content of posts.

 

[SportPonies]

You've already voted me so the capacity is there. If you were a chicken, you never would have touched me to begin with.

I like touching you.

 

[WildZoo]

Haha but I'm not a universally village-read, unyeetable wolf, now am I?

Neither am I, clearly

 

[potentialsheltervet]

You've already voted me so the capacity is there. If you were a chicken, you never would have touched me to begin with.

I'm pretty sure @BobLoblaw78 was the chicken.
All I'm saying is I am not nearly confident enough in my wolfing to ever attempt to start a yeet on you. I'm cautiously considering the possibility this game because I don't have enough information to place you in my village reads. Simple as that.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Neither am I, clearly

Well, had the cult not reared its ugly, corporate head, you probably would've gotten away with it.

 

[Truenamer]

I've noticed a few people have Cubs near the bottom of their lists; is it mostly vibes, or are there specific reasons why?

I've also noticed a difference in tone from the last game, but it may just be him being busy.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I'm pretty sure @BobLoblaw78 was the chicken.
All I'm saying is I am not nearly confident enough in my wolfing to ever attempt to start a yeet on you. I'm cautiously considering the possibility this game because I don't have enough information to place you in my village reads. Simple as that.

Hm. We shall see about that.

Why is Bob the chicken here?

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Hm. We shall see about that.

Why is Bob the chicken here?

I was making a joke about StardeWW since he was a blue chicken in that game.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

I've noticed a few people have Cubs near the bottom of their lists; is it mostly vibes, or are there specific reasons why?

I've also noticed a difference in tone from the last game, but it may just be him being busy.

For me it's just vibes, a specific comment around mel's yeet, and the acknowledgement that I have no idea what to look for when he's wolfing.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I was making a joke about StardeWW since he was a blue chicken in that game.

I'm not what Stardew has to do with what we talking about, but okay.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

I'm not what Stardew has to do with what we talking about, but okay.

Nothing. You saying I'm not a chicken made me think of Bob being a chicken. That's all. I'm also playing a crap load of Stardew Valley now so it's always on my mind.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

For me it's just vibes, a specific comment around mel's yeet, and the acknowledgement that I have no idea what to look for when he's wolfing.

However at this point nothing strong enough to convince me to commit patricide.

 

[Truenamer]

I'm not what Stardew has to do with what we talking about, but okay.

See? This is clearly village!AM.

 

[supershorty]

I'm also playing a crap load of Stardew Valley now so it's always on my mind.

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[SportPonies]

See? This is clearly village!AM.

Stop that

 

[Dana_May_B]

You've already voted me so the capacity is there. If you were a chicken, you never would have touched me to begin with.

i knew there was a reason why i wanted to be a poultry vet! i fit right in with my patients

 

[Dana_May_B]

I think Dana sounds fairly village in these last few pages but I’d want to compare to her noob game

She was convincingly village for most of that game as well, at least in part due to her sheer length and content of posts.

i cant help being a chatty kathy hahaha if mkg were playing she could vouch for me talking a lot in real life too 🤣

 

[BobLoblaw78]

im actually feeling a bit better about bob's random TME vote. if bob was a wolf, why would he have chosen to just post a naked vote out there with no context to protect mel, having no knowledge that mel was actually a lone wolf?

I agree. I had like 10 minutes to read several posts, process what was going on and vote. The huge swing from TME to mel after barks claim looked manipulated from 10,000 foot view. I didn't care about last minute vote making me look wolfy bc I am not. I was trying to counteract what looked like a wolfy maneuver. Then vote closed and I prayed mel wouldn't flip wolf after my vote bc it looked like I was protecting him. I lucked out that he was lone wolf and not part of the pack.

Odds of him knowing Mel was a lone wolf is low regardless of affiliation.

Even if Mel was actually a lost wolf, the pack itself isn't given a name.

As a wolf, I am not drawing extra sus when I already play every game with sus level above average.

Wolf!Bob has also defended village!Mel multiple times in the past so that's NAI at best here.

At best the info is NAI? So at worst does it imply I'm wolf? I think at best it would suggest that was a move that a wolf would not do. I only know that bc I was panicking that Mel would flip wolf.

It feels like a can't win situation with what you guys are saying. Consider this from what you have said and forgive me for generalizing:

If mel flipped wolf, it makes me look like a wolf. If mel flips lone wolf, it was NAI at best (meaning if worse, than I am wolf). If mel flips village, I am a wolf saying mel looked more village barks.

Is there a version where I am not wolf?

Because you could defend it by later saying you found Mel to be more village? If you're expecting them to both be village it doesn't especially matter which one you choose to support or condemn.

There is some serious WIFOM, expert level wolfing that you guys are projecting on me. I guess thanks???... if you think I am that good at wolfing

 

[WildZoo]

Oh boy I have popped in so many times now that I lost track of where I actually am on the thread

 

[Animal Midwife]

As a wolf, I am not drawing extra sus when I already play every game with sus level above average.

At best the info is NAI? So at worst does it imply I'm wolf? I think at best it would suggest that was a move that a wolf would not do. I only know that bc I was panicking that Mel would flip wolf.

It feels like a can't win situation with what you guys are saying. Consider this from what you have said and forgive me for generalizing:

If mel flipped wolf, it makes me look like a wolf. If mel flips lone wolf, it was NAI at best (meaning if worse, than I am wolf). If mel flips village, I am a wolf saying mel looked more village barks.

Is there a version where I am not wolf?

Yes. There's always a possibility someone is village unless they're mechanically outted.

I have seen you both jump on the leading wagon and vote on a wagon which has no votes as a wolf, gaining my attention. That why it's NAI.

I don't care about thinking Enigma was saved because clearly she wasn't.

I'd rather hear about your thoughts today and who's in your POE now that you don't have the rush of deadline hanging over your head.

 

[WildZoo]

Dubz makes up 6 pages of this game.
I’m only a little over 4. Gotta step it up. But that means we almost make up 1/3 of the thread together

Oof, i gotta get to 7

#postpad

inb4 sporty angery

 

[WildZoo]

Dubz- I can't help but not trust her. She surely can't be wolf again. But with how she has wolfed, I won't ever feel comfy around her. (kudos to her)

Thank you...I think...

 

[WildZoo]

Dubz post look really good. From not being overly confident about someone being village (which wolf would know). To not wanting people to sheep which seems more village

Dubz is looking really good. I guess a wolf could be looking this hard and catch the behavior but still looks good.

Hmmm

 

[Zenge142]

i also think his shift from disagreeing to agreeing with cubs was odd.

This was the second time you’ve brought this up. Can you highlight an example of what you mean? I have no idea what you’re talking about?

 

[WildZoo]

Is lone wolfing considered part of a basic set up? I highly doubt 4 lone wolves would be.

I forgot this game was supposed to be basicish. Lol.

 

[BobLoblaw78]

I’m still the second highest poster, and chalking it up to me just not wanting to be NKd is interesting choice.

What has genny does that feels like village genny?

Who are you most interested in voting?

I said you feel different than last game. Chalked it up to you not wanting NK'd. I mainly chalked it up to that bc you said you needed to cut back bc you didn't want NK'd.

Her entrance posts were more jokey and bold then when she is wolf. Her wolf jokes seem less and toned down with slightly more flying under the radar.

Not sure where I am voting. Sporty/SAR/cubs/PSV, fluff, violet, kdswg, bread is the group I am eyeing for my vote to come out of. I don't have it refined down but I feel way better about the list today than I did yesterday. The first four (Sporty/SAR/cubs/PSV) feel 95% village in their posts, but every now and then they do something that pings me (if that makes any sense).

 

[WildZoo]

She also made the comment about asking about parity before AM or Zenge said it was 3P and I would expect a noob to assume a wolf is a win. I think there was TMI and it was a rojo. I don’t think I’m going to be able to be pulled away from this.

It hurts me because it would mean she used my own AtE tactics against me earlier (or wait, should I be proud?) but the way it was phrased really bugged me too. I'm sure there was already more commentary on it today. But just wanted to say that's why I initially quoted it.

 

[BobLoblaw78]

Spoiler: Bob pls

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edit- Nevermind. I see the bolded- She has been wolf last two times, so yeah, my statistics part of my brain says no way she is it for a third time in a row (with me)

 

[WildZoo]

Also because I spent the entire last game killing villagers and want a scrap of acknowledgement for doing good :/

*sends scrap of acknowledgement*

 

[WildZoo]

village

barks
true
samac = dubz
AM
sheltervet
SAR
kdswg
genny
sporty
violet
bread
fluff
bob = cubs= zenge

wolfy

i went back and reread the thread while ignoring a physiology lecture haha

why are the woofs purple 😱

 

[WildZoo]

Also there was no NK. We dont know if any actions were actually blocked, night cancel, protection, etc. Maybe it had something to do with an early wolf pack kill, which makes less sense though, because TME wouldnt have been cleared and still had misyeet potential.

Maybe I wasn't clear enough this morning
I canceled night

 

[WildZoo]

Thinking aloud:

Let's say he has something like "when you die, you can take someone with you." This would also explain the slightly longer delay between his yeeting and the writeup.

If so, who would he pick?

Picking TME might make sense if Mel's victory condition is just the wolves winning. If that's the case, he would want to pick someone he's pretty confident isn't also a wolf; and at least to me, TME looked like a prime misyeet waiting to happen.

If he had picked someone like Samac, AM, or me, it would be more obvious that it was revenge/collateral, whereas this way it leads to more confusion (which I assume is pro-woofs).

How much mafia wiki reading were you doing

 

[WildZoo]

@samac Co-mod a game called PoWWsting? Each day everyone who has a smaller cumulative post total than the mods gets killed?

Do i just automatically win this game?

 

[SportPonies]

why are the woofs purple 😱

Why is Zenge wolfiest?

 

[WildZoo]

So youre willing to go all in on a wolf read without having even evaluated important content between her and another player? Youre starting to give me the twitch, mi amore.

Hmmm

 

[BobLoblaw78]

I disagree. I don't think this is a credit situation. You can definitely village read people's overall efforts and progression to get to voting Mel but there's zero reason a wolf (or more) couldn't have been on that vote.

I saw the swing as a convenient way to get rid of mel who can be problematic for wolves. Why would wolves care about misyeet of TME vs Mel (bc they would assume both were village) except to get rid of the more problematic one

 

[SportPonies]

I saw the swing as a convenient way to get rid of mel who can be problematic for wolves. Why would wolves care about misyeet of TME vs Mel (bc they would assume both were village) except to get rid of the more problematic one

I don’t see why Mel would be considered more problematic when he’s generally easily misyoten late game

 

[WildZoo]

@SportPonies I see you lurking!

This made me chuckle

 

[WildZoo]

Tbh the fluff/samac thing feels like it’s getting to the point of distraction, especially when there’s so little other discussion. But I don’t know that I have an independent read on either of them right now.

Hmm. Even in rereading everything in quick succession, it didn't feel like distraction level? It's not like it took up a whole page on its own. And there have been other discussions going on. AM and Bob. A little cubs and Zenge.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I saw the swing as a convenient way to get rid of mel who can be problematic for wolves. Why would wolves care about misyeet of TME vs Mel (bc they would assume both were village) except to get rid of the more problematic one

Your <95% POE contains exactly zero people on Mel, so what's the rationale behind thinking this happened?

 

[WildZoo]

AVENGERS ASSEMBLE!

I just had a random tinfoil and I wanted to see if this does anything. Carry on.

This is the most village thing you've posted all game

 

[Dana_May_B]

why are the woofs purple 😱

the color gradient was just too nice to pass up

 

[BobLoblaw78]

Also, do any more experience players have theories on how the double kill happened at day-close? Could have been some sort of collateral damage mechanic that Mel had?

I have a tinfoil! A bit ego-centric and out there. I have placed it in PM in case I am right. I won't share it here bc it doesn't help at all with the game. (plus, I think tinfoiling is frowned upon and I have used up most of my goodwill)

 

[WildZoo]

Dubz

woah woah woah why am I there I didn't authorize this

 

[Dana_May_B]

Why is Zenge wolfiest?

i tried to use the = sign to show that im most suspicious of bob, cubs and zenge right now, not really ranking them in any particular order