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potentialsheltervet said:
Why wouldn't you? If I recall correctly your post was "does that count for us for parity?" or something which would make total sense to be in wolfchat. I don't want to beat a dead horse as far as that post is concerned though.
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Cause I wouldn’t need to say “us” if I was referring to my packmates. Cause naturally, wolves need to reach parity so when talking about parity “us” is assumed. And it’s not like villagers don’t ever think about parity; in StardeWW how many times did you do the math for the wolves?
 
justafluff said:
Cause I wouldn’t need to say “us” if I was referring to my packmates. Cause naturally, wolves need to reach parity so when talking about parity “us” is assumed. And it’s not like villagers don’t ever think about parity; in StardeWW how many times did you do the math for the wolves?
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That's a good point, I did just do parity math about fifteen times in the last game.
 
justafluff said:
Cause I wouldn’t need to say “us” if I was referring to my packmates. Cause naturally, wolves need to reach parity so when talking about parity “us” is assumed. And it’s not like villagers don’t ever think about parity; in StardeWW how many times did you do the math for the wolves?
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I think once, incorrectly.
I'm not going to die on this hill because I'm not even sure I'm yeeting you this cycle but I definitely said "us" when talking about parity in wolfchat in BoWWling. If you wouldn't in this situation, fine. But I'm not going to village code you over semantics.
 
Animal Midwife said:
You've already voted me so the capacity is there. If you were a chicken, you never would have touched me to begin with.
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I'm pretty sure @BobLoblaw78 was the chicken.
All I'm saying is I am not nearly confident enough in my wolfing to ever attempt to start a yeet on you. I'm cautiously considering the possibility this game because I don't have enough information to place you in my village reads. Simple as that.
 
I've noticed a few people have Cubs near the bottom of their lists; is it mostly vibes, or are there specific reasons why?

I've also noticed a difference in tone from the last game, but it may just be him being busy.
 
potentialsheltervet said:
I'm pretty sure @BobLoblaw78 was the chicken.
All I'm saying is I am not nearly confident enough in my wolfing to ever attempt to start a yeet on you. I'm cautiously considering the possibility this game because I don't have enough information to place you in my village reads. Simple as that.
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Hm. We shall see about that.

Why is Bob the chicken here?
 
Truenamer said:
I've noticed a few people have Cubs near the bottom of their lists; is it mostly vibes, or are there specific reasons why?

I've also noticed a difference in tone from the last game, but it may just be him being busy.
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For me it's just vibes, a specific comment around mel's yeet, and the acknowledgement that I have no idea what to look for when he's wolfing.
 
SportPonies said:
I think Dana sounds fairly village in these last few pages but I’d want to compare to her noob game

She was convincingly village for most of that game as well, at least in part due to her sheer length and content of posts.
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i cant help being a chatty kathy hahaha if mkg were playing she could vouch for me talking a lot in real life too 🤣
 
Dana_May_B said:
im actually feeling a bit better about bob's random TME vote. if bob was a wolf, why would he have chosen to just post a naked vote out there with no context to protect mel, having no knowledge that mel was actually a lone wolf?
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I agree. I had like 10 minutes to read several posts, process what was going on and vote. The huge swing from TME to mel after barks claim looked manipulated from 10,000 foot view. I didn't care about last minute vote making me look wolfy bc I am not. I was trying to counteract what looked like a wolfy maneuver. Then vote closed and I prayed mel wouldn't flip wolf after my vote bc it looked like I was protecting him. I lucked out that he was lone wolf and not part of the pack.
Animal Midwife said:
Odds of him knowing Mel was a lone wolf is low regardless of affiliation.

Even if Mel was actually a lost wolf, the pack itself isn't given a name.
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As a wolf, I am not drawing extra sus when I already play every game with sus level above average.
Animal Midwife said:
Wolf!Bob has also defended village!Mel multiple times in the past so that's NAI at best here.
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At best the info is NAI? So at worst does it imply I'm wolf? I think at best it would suggest that was a move that a wolf would not do. I only know that bc I was panicking that Mel would flip wolf.

It feels like a can't win situation with what you guys are saying. Consider this from what you have said and forgive me for generalizing:

If mel flipped wolf, it makes me look like a wolf. If mel flips lone wolf, it was NAI at best (meaning if worse, than I am wolf). If mel flips village, I am a wolf saying mel looked more village barks.

Is there a version where I am not wolf?
potentialsheltervet said:
Because you could defend it by later saying you found Mel to be more village? If you're expecting them to both be village it doesn't especially matter which one you choose to support or condemn.
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There is some serious WIFOM, expert level wolfing that you guys are projecting on me. I guess thanks???... if you think I am that good at wolfing
 
BobLoblaw78 said:
As a wolf, I am not drawing extra sus when I already play every game with sus level above average.

At best the info is NAI? So at worst does it imply I'm wolf? I think at best it would suggest that was a move that a wolf would not do. I only know that bc I was panicking that Mel would flip wolf.

It feels like a can't win situation with what you guys are saying. Consider this from what you have said and forgive me for generalizing:

If mel flipped wolf, it makes me look like a wolf. If mel flips lone wolf, it was NAI at best (meaning if worse, than I am wolf). If mel flips village, I am a wolf saying mel looked more village barks.

Is there a version where I am not wolf?
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Yes. There's always a possibility someone is village unless they're mechanically outted.

I have seen you both jump on the leading wagon and vote on a wagon which has no votes as a wolf, gaining my attention. That why it's NAI.

I don't care about thinking Enigma was saved because clearly she wasn't.

I'd rather hear about your thoughts today and who's in your POE now that you don't have the rush of deadline hanging over your head.
 
BobLoblaw78 said:
Dubz post look really good. From not being overly confident about someone being village (which wolf would know). To not wanting people to sheep which seems more village
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BobLoblaw78 said:
Dubz is looking really good. I guess a wolf could be looking this hard and catch the behavior but still looks good.
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Hmmm
 
samac said:
I’m still the second highest poster, and chalking it up to me just not wanting to be NKd is interesting choice.

What has genny does that feels like village genny?

Who are you most interested in voting?
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I said you feel different than last game. Chalked it up to you not wanting NK'd. I mainly chalked it up to that bc you said you needed to cut back bc you didn't want NK'd.

Her entrance posts were more jokey and bold then when she is wolf. Her wolf jokes seem less and toned down with slightly more flying under the radar.

Not sure where I am voting. Sporty/SAR/cubs/PSV, fluff, violet, kdswg, bread is the group I am eyeing for my vote to come out of. I don't have it refined down but I feel way better about the list today than I did yesterday. The first four (Sporty/SAR/cubs/PSV) feel 95% village in their posts, but every now and then they do something that pings me (if that makes any sense).
 
samac said:
She also made the comment about asking about parity before AM or Zenge said it was 3P and I would expect a noob to assume a wolf is a win. I think there was TMI and it was a rojo. I don’t think I’m going to be able to be pulled away from this.
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It hurts me because it would mean she used my own AtE tactics against me earlier (or wait, should I be proud?) but the way it was phrased really bugged me too. I'm sure there was already more commentary on it today. But just wanted to say that's why I initially quoted it.
 
Dana_May_B said:
village

barks
true
samac = dubz
AM
sheltervet
SAR
kdswg
genny
sporty
violet
bread
fluff
bob = cubs= zenge

wolfy

i went back and reread the thread while ignoring a physiology lecture haha
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why are the woofs purple 😱
 
cubsrule4e said:
Also there was no NK. We dont know if any actions were actually blocked, night cancel, protection, etc. Maybe it had something to do with an early wolf pack kill, which makes less sense though, because TME wouldnt have been cleared and still had misyeet potential.
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Maybe I wasn't clear enough this morning
I canceled night
 
Truenamer said:
Thinking aloud:

Let's say he has something like "when you die, you can take someone with you." This would also explain the slightly longer delay between his yeeting and the writeup.

If so, who would he pick?

Picking TME might make sense if Mel's victory condition is just the wolves winning. If that's the case, he would want to pick someone he's pretty confident isn't also a wolf; and at least to me, TME looked like a prime misyeet waiting to happen.

If he had picked someone like Samac, AM, or me, it would be more obvious that it was revenge/collateral, whereas this way it leads to more confusion (which I assume is pro-woofs).
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How much mafia wiki reading were you doing :thinking:
 
Animal Midwife said:
I disagree. I don't think this is a credit situation. You can definitely village read people's overall efforts and progression to get to voting Mel but there's zero reason a wolf (or more) couldn't have been on that vote.
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I saw the swing as a convenient way to get rid of mel who can be problematic for wolves. Why would wolves care about misyeet of TME vs Mel (bc they would assume both were village) except to get rid of the more problematic one
 
SportPonies said:
Tbh the fluff/samac thing feels like it’s getting to the point of distraction, especially when there’s so little other discussion. But I don’t know that I have an independent read on either of them right now.
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Hmm. Even in rereading everything in quick succession, it didn't feel like distraction level? It's not like it took up a whole page on its own. And there have been other discussions going on. AM and Bob. A little cubs and Zenge.
 
Truenamer said:
Also, do any more experience players have theories on how the double kill happened at day-close? Could have been some sort of collateral damage mechanic that Mel had?
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I have a tinfoil! A bit ego-centric and out there. I have placed it in PM in case I am right. I won't share it here bc it doesn't help at all with the game. (plus, I think tinfoiling is frowned upon and I have used up most of my goodwill)
 
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