Nina, you are an attractive girl. Nice photos.
Yay! Support! None of the pictures are "take-myself-really-super-seriously-femme-fatal" type pictures. They're just me with a goofy grin in various stages of undress. There's no penetration of any kind and it's just so harmless. It's crazy to see how upset people get about just seeing a woman naked in her bedroom being "sexy" in such an innocent way.
Many people would probably be disturbed by my being gay, yet I hold hands with my boyfriend publicly. In addition, I tell all of my friends that I'm a medical student. Does this mean I shouldn't be allowed to practice medicine? Am I a pox on the profession? Try to answer yes. See what happens. Then try to answer no and see if your argument, logically, still holds water.
You were not just "being naked." I was naked just this morning (singing and rubbing soap on my balls), and obviously that's not a problem. But nice way to try to reframe.
Of course you don't get it when you refuse to.
I do like how you admitted you shouldn't have linked the naked pictures to your being a medical student, yet now you're backtracking and pretending that you don't understand why anyone could be upset. As if your regret was just a token to throw out. Getting really called out on it sucks, though, doesn't it?
Wearing your **** on your sleeve shows that you have more problems than the problems you wear on your sleeve.
This kind of behavior, especially if it ever became systematic, taints the authority and reputation of the person, and by example, the profession.
Boners and wild libertarian tendencies of young premeds and medical students aside, this consideration should be taken into account.
And Wonka over there is "scared of scaring her off". She's not a cat.
Sexy in such an innocent wayAre you a friggin ******? How did you get into med school? You are virtually opening yourself up to the types of verbal and mental transgressions that you witness both on the thread and in reality when you invite people into your bedroom or your various "states of undress". You take a stab at undermining both female doctors and medicine as a whole by trying to sexualize or fetishize the female doctor. I don't know if you're even mildly attractive but attractive professional women already have it hard enough being taken seriously - remaining colleagues rather than sex objects without this sort of nonsense.
Second, it's pathetic the guys who are pandering to the so-called sexually abuse victim who doesn't have the sense to keep what is personal business - body wise or emotionally jarring abuses to herself.
Go to a health professional. You have boundary issues. It's creepy and sad. And Wonka over there is "scared of scaring her off". She's not a cat.
How is you engaging with your loved one in hand holding in any way similar to what she's doing?
Totally unfounded. The majority of women in pornography are mentally healthy adults. By extension, so are the majority of men in pornography.
How is you engaging with your loved one in hand holding in any way similar to what she's doing?
You talk about professionalism but you use this word?!?!?
Yes. I've also been known to use "poopie" and "wee wee" and "fatass".
I don't think this girl will affect me.
So what actual evidence is there that someone who posts naked pictures online should not be a part of the medical establishment? Any takers for actually answering my questions?
Her deviant behavior will turn our children into drug users, violent criminals and homosexuals. (sarc.)
Sexy in such an innocent way? Are you a friggin ******? How did you get into med school? You are virtually opening yourself up to the types of verbal and mental transgressions that you witness both on the thread and in reality when you invite people into your bedroom or your various "states of undress". You take a stab at undermining both female doctors and medicine as a whole by trying to sexualize or fetishize the female doctor. I don't know if you're even mildly attractive but attractive professional women already have it hard enough being taken seriously - remaining colleagues rather than sex objects without this sort of nonsense.
Second, it's pathetic the guys who are pandering to the so-called sexually abuse victim who doesn't have the sense to keep what is personal business - body wise or emotionally jarring abuses to herself.
Go to a health professional. You have boundary issues. It's creepy and sad. And Wonka over there is "scared of scaring her off". She's not a cat.
So what actual evidence is there that someone who posts naked pictures online should not be a part of the medical establishment? Any takers for actually answering my questions?
1. I don't see any correlation between being gay, being a slut, being a religious nut, being a fat person and being an excellent doctor. I would not freak out at being treated by any of the aforementioned.
2. That said, I wouldn't hire a fat doctor because I find it contrary to what medicine is about and I'd find it terribly offputting if people noted that lots of doctors are fat. I wouldn't hire a religious nut just because...well...I don't think we'd really see eye to eye on most things. The other two are fine by me unless they are being "disruptive" about it.
3. If you're making out with your boyfriend and putting half dressed photos on social networking sites - yeah...that's too much of your personal business out and about. As doctors I think we should maintain a certain formality with patients. Her patient walking in and saying "those hot white lace panties in photo 6 were rocking" is...
2. That said, I wouldn't hire a fat doctor because I find it contrary to what medicine is about and I'd find it terribly offputting if people noted that lots of doctors are fat.
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I don't even know where to begin. If I creep you out, you probably shouldn't become a doctor. I certain think you'll see a lot worse things out there.
I'm going to assume you're an American woman that has been so indoctrinated into Puritanism that you could never understand anyone's desires to love their body and shamelessly enjoy sex and that's truly sad.
There are probably a lot of girls out there who could benefit from hearing the stories of survivors of sexual abuse. I don't think it should be kept a secret. Keeping sexual abuse a secret protects those who have committed sexual crimes and is probably the most damaging thing a victim could do to his or her own psyche.
I question the morality and decency of everything I do. If society is telling me one thing, but my moral compass is telling me another, I tend to go with my own conclusions because I am confident in the power of my own intellect. Posing naked pictures online has NO moral implications. I sleep well at night. I'm happy. I'm sure that upsets half of the miserable people in my medical class who feign friendships, cheat, and sabotage others. You'd never catch me doing that. In fact, you know nothing about me and the disgusting tone of your letter leaves me wondering whether you're even capable of the compassion and empathy required to be a doctor.
I don't even know where to begin. If I creep you out, you probably shouldn't become a doctor. I certain you'll see a lot worse things out there.
I am not representative of unattractive/attractive professional women. I'm an individual. It's weird how everyone is extending my influence onto the entire medical community or comparing me with murderers.
I never pose as a doctor in pictures. I couldn't possibly undermine both female doctors and medicine as a whole. That is probably the most ludicrous thing I've ever heard. And throwing around the word "******ed" as a future doctor isn't really professional at all, is it?
I'm going to assume you're an American woman that has been so indoctrinated into Puritanism that you could never understand anyone's desires to love their body and shamelessly enjoy sex and that's truly sad.
There are probably a lot of girls out there who could benefit from hearing the stories of survivors of sexual abuse. I don't think it should be kept a secret. Keeping sexual abuse a secret protects those who have committed sexual crimes and is probably the most damaging thing a victim could do to his or her own psyche.
I question the morality and decency of everything I do. If society is telling me one thing, but my moral compass is telling me another, I tend to go with my own conclusions because I am confident in the power of my own intellect. Posing naked pictures online has NO moral implications. I sleep well at night. I'm happy. I'm sure that upsets half of the miserable people in my medical class who feign friendships, cheat, and sabotage others. You'd never catch me doing that. In fact, you know nothing about me and the disgusting tone of your letter leaves me wondering whether you're even capable of the compassion and empathy required to be a doctor.
I think some of you guys are getting hung up on gender and decency issues. The underlying question is not one of whether nudity is indecent or even whether there's a double standard. The real question is whether there is certain behavioral requirements incumbent on professionals. I have no issue with her morality, and if she were not a member of an organized profession I'd say she can bare it all, knock herself out. But when there are issues of professionalism at play, the game changes.
1. I don't see any correlation between being gay, being a slut, being a religious nut, being a fat person and being an excellent doctor. I would not freak out at being treated by any of the aforementioned.
2. That said, I wouldn't hire a fat doctor because I find it contrary to what medicine is about and I'd find it terribly offputting if people noted that lots of doctors are fat. I wouldn't hire a religious nut just because...well...I don't think we'd really see eye to eye on most things. The other two are fine by me unless they are being "disruptive" about it.
3. If you're making out with your boyfriend and putting half dressed photos on social networking sites - yeah...that's too much of your personal business out and about. As doctors I think we should maintain a certain formality with patients. Her patient walking in and saying "those hot white lace panties in photo 6 were rocking" is...
1. Osteogenesis imperfecta congenita and elephatiasis don't creep me out - but yes, you do. It's gotta be really weird wishing you were someone else and then doing things to reaffirm that, hm?
2. Just because you advertise your body and sex life online doesn't mean I'm willing to let you delve into mine. Keep your hands off my sex life, freak. Your assumptions about my sexuality are so hilariously off, you'd pee your pants to know. Who said sex is shameful? Who said you can't have an orgy? Learn to focus on the issue.
3. I'm not against people talking about sexual abuse and molestation and working against it...but not half-clad giving people erections while doing it.
4. You sleep well at night - but you wish you were someone else? I'm finished talking to someone who isn't half smart enough to figure these things out on her own. Either you don't understand male sexuality at all - like many women or you're just...okay, no more insulting you. I'm done.
What a thread. Five stars all around.
I just kept ignoring this thread b/c I was like, "Omg I don't care, I don't care" but of course I see it ballooning in replies... it's like a car accident. I had to click on it and watch.
This girl took nude pics of herself, identified herself as a med student, and put it all over the internet. Good for her. She's pretty, and her tits are a solid 9/10. Does it make me a chauvinist pig if I objectify someone who has chosen to do things to objectify herself? I'm sure some people in here would say so.
To Nina - I don't think what you've done reflects badly on the entire medical profession. However, you have set yourself in a position so that when people google who their doctor is, there will be inevitably be links to stories about these pictures. It will have differing effects, dependent on the person. Some people won't care, some (if not most) will think of it in a negative light, and some creeps will try to have you as their doctor in hopes they can get some (probably).
I am of the opinion that you have undoubtedly made your life unnecessarily more difficult for yourself. That being said, as long as you accept the consequences of your actions, then so be it. As for getting kicked out of school, it really depends on your school's professionalism code. Generally things that happen outside of school grounds and don't result in legal action (like getting in trouble with the cops) seem to be out of the focus of the professionalism code.
Do I think you should probably see a psychiatrist/therapist to work out some of your (admitted) social and traumatic history? Of course. Hopefully you are. Because (and this is my opinion and people are allowed to disagree with it) I believe it is a serious lack of inhibition to do everything (nudes w/ face + reddit + name + call yourself a med student) that you have done. One of the main reasons we're talking so much about this is because we (or at least I) have never seen this before.
As to the misc bros... c'mon now lol. I took a quick look at the misc forums, and it looks fun, but let's keep the 2 things apart. It's like bringing stuff from http://www.the-coli.com/ and bringing it back here...
Why do I get a sense of jealousy overflowing from everyone of Anastomoses' posts...
You're projecting. I can't be jealous of someone I find inferior.
I agree with just about everything you've said except for the bolded content. Her behavior isn't unusual; if it were, there wouldn't be hundreds, maybe thousands of men and women posting nude pictures of themselves on reddit. It's not a result of a lack of needed inhibition.
I think some of you guys are getting hung up on gender and decency issues. The underlying question is not one of whether nudity is indecent or even whether there's a double standard. The real question is whether there is certain behavioral requirements incumbent on professionals. I have no issue with her morality, and if she were not a member of an organized profession I'd say she can bare it all, knock herself out. But when there are issues of professionalism at play, the game changes.
You're projecting. I can't be jealous of something I find inferior.
ftfy.
All right, then. Hypothetical. What if a woman or man sends a picture to his/her SO and the SO posts the picture online while pretending to be that person? Does the mere presence of the picture mean that the sender has been unprofessional?
That was half accident. I even have to remind myself not to call babies "it".
You're projecting. I can't be jealous of something I find inferior.
1. Osteogenesis imperfecta congenita and elephantiasis don't creep me out - but yes, you do. It's gotta be really weird wishing you were someone else and then doing things to reaffirm that, hm?
2. Just because you advertise your body and sex life online doesn't mean I'm willing to let you delve into mine. Keep your hands off my sex life, freak. Your assumptions about my sexuality are so hilariously off, you'd pee your pants to know. Who said sex is shameful? Who said you can't have an orgy? Learn to focus on the issue.
3. I'm not against people talking about sexual abuse and molestation and working against it...but not half-clad giving people erections while doing it.
4. You sleep well at night - but you wish you were someone else? I'm finished talking to someone who isn't half smart enough to figure these things out on her own. Either you don't understand male sexuality at all - like many women or you're just...okay, no more insulting you. I'm done.
No. And that was my initial point on this thread...had she been just doing her little "I need to show off my body for a thrill" thing without mentioning her medical career - even as a professional I'd feel bad if she had it uncovered by someone. But she's showcasing her body and her medical career and saying "hey look at me...med student and naked boobies all in one!" (actually i haven't seen the pics so I don't know to what degree she is undressed)
Unlike poopoo and wee wee, using the word "******" insults an entire group of people. As a physician who WILL encounter these patients regardless of what specialty you go into you should be cognizant of that.
I don't think I could delve into an obviously non-existent sex-life. You're a either a very frigid woman or an man who judges so harshly that many women would feel uncomfortable around you.
I agree with just about everything you've said except for the bolded content. Her behavior isn't unusual; if it were, there wouldn't be hundreds, maybe thousands of men and women posting nude pictures of themselves on reddit. It's not a result of a lack of needed inhibition.
Unlike you, I'm not willing to use myself to titillate randoms so you'll just have to believe what you want about my bedroom etiquette. all the best Nina!
Translation: "I'm ug."
Translation: "I'm ug."
... While I don't agree with Anastomoses's viewpoints, I think it hurts your (by your I mean Nina and her supporters) argument by going to her (Anastomoses's) level. Assuming that one is ugly and has no sex life because they are not willing to discuss/exhibit it in public is silly.
I think stating that her behavior is NOT unusual is being slightly facetious. I do not believe that it is considered 'business as usual' to post naked pics of yourself on the internet. I guess I'm old-fashioned. Not saying I think it is despicable, but I don't think it is commonplace.
Anyways, the main thing I wanted to focus on was that the combination of everything that happened with this girl (not just that she's a girl who posted naked pics of herself online) is something that we as a community has never seen before (I believe). Or at least, not in the same numbers as we have with this girl. This is the first girl who posted nude pics on the internet with her face visible while self-identifying as a medical student, right? Then on top of all that, she came onto this forum to justify/defend her actions. The culmination of ALL of those factors is why we are discussing it so vehemently.
If what I was posting in this thread actually made sense, then I'd have to rethink my trolling strategies.
She so ug, when she came out the doctor said "Ah hell nah" and pushed her back in.
(Oh wait, she was a C-Sec according to her profile. Why would ppl even share that?)