Med student posing nude on reddit

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[evilbooyaa]

Do you honestly think she's the first medical student ever to post pictures of herself naked online and identify herself as a medical student?

Probably not. But she's legitimately the first one I've heard of. Maybe I've had my head up my ass for the past 2 years.

And with regard to it being usual, there are tons of things that some people do that most people would find repulsive that aren't considered pathologic. Numerous sexual fetishes come to mind as an obvious example, but in any case, doing something that others don't with your time is not necessarily an indication of pathology, amorality, or lack of professionalism.

Hmm... fair point. Perhaps it's my own biases coming through. I don't know, man. Something about her being a medical student is affecting my opinion significantly more than anything else. Gotta think about this for a bit.

 

[tantacles]

Probably not, but she's the first I've heard of on this large of a scale.

Yeah, people do weird things, but they are not showcasing those things to the public while being held to a professional standard, which is largely the issue here (if you guys haven't noticed). All of you keep forgetting the context of this discussion. This isn't about whether or not she can do those things as a person; it's about whether or not the people in this profession deem it acceptable to do these things (short answer: no). At least for now.

It's more than that. It's understood that there ARE consequences. What we're debating is whether there SHOULD be consequences, which is a completely different argument.

 

[tantacles]

Lack of inhibition.

 

[tantacles]

Probably not. But she's legitimately the first one I've heard of. Maybe I've had my head up my ass for the past 2 years.



Hmm... fair point. Perhaps it's my own biases coming through. I don't know, man. Something about her being a medical student is affecting my opinion significantly more than anything else. Gotta think about this for a bit.

Regardless of your views, your recognition of this makes you the most reasonable person in this thread.

 

[throwaway2evry1]

I think stating that her behavior is NOT unusual is being slightly facetious. I do not believe that it is considered 'business as usual' to post naked pics of yourself on the internet. I guess I'm old-fashioned. Not saying I think it is despicable, but I don't think it is commonplace.

Anyways, the main thing I wanted to focus on was that the combination of everything that happened with this girl (not just that she's a girl who posted naked pics of herself online) is something that we as a community has never seen before (I believe). Or at least, not in the same numbers as we have with this girl. This is the first girl who posted nude pics on the internet with her face visible while self-identifying as a medical student, right? Then on top of all that, she came onto this forum to justify/defend her actions. The culmination of ALL of those factors is why we are discussing it so vehemently.

I wouldn't say I'm vehemently defending my behavior. I guess the overwhelming attack made me a little defensive. I'm sorry if I lost my cool there with anatomoses, but I'm pretty sure she got off on insulting me somehow. To each her own, right?

I can't possibly be the first medical student to post nudes online. They're honestly so softcore. I almost can't believe that any man who came of age with the internet could fap to these pictures. I just remember during Superstorm Sandy we were out of power for weeks. All of my guy friends said that they had to TRY to use their mother's VS catalogs to get off, but few were actually successful; they NEEDED videos. Pictures, whether print or posted online, are such primitive forms of pornography. In so many words, I doubt anyone is really going to find these pictures. They'd have to hunt for them. I'm neither famous nor a mainstay on popular porn website like redtube, xtube, or pornhub. The only way these pictures would come back to haunt me is if someone were deliberately trying to sabotage me. Of course that is INCREDIBLY likely in a medical school environment, and IMHO, that speaks of character flaws far greater than just posting the nudes online in the first place.

 

[bangarang]

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[tantacles]

Fair enough. That's easy. Usually, when you matriculate, you are in agreement with your school's professionalism and ethics guidelines. If it is within your school's code of conduct to take naked pictures of yourself and post it on the internet, then there shouldn't be any consequences. Otherwise, there should be consequences, provided she did commit some sort of ethics violation as determined by her school.

You're right in that the school will punish based on its code of conduct, but you're still stuck on whether there WILL or WILL NOT be consequences as determined by the school. Personally, since I don't consider schools to have moral authority, I look at their rules as guidelines to stay in the school, not to live my life by.

So the question remains: Logically, why SHOULD there be consequences?

 

[JP2740]

Lol this is getting stupid. A lot of people debating points that aren't relevant, and responding to people's posts with explanations that have nothing to do with the original point.

 

[LakersWestSide]

I wouldn't say I'm vehemently defending my behavior. I guess the overwhelming attack made me a little defensive. I'm sorry if I lost my cool there with anatomoses, but I'm pretty sure she got off on insulting me somehow. To each her own, right?

I can't possibly be the first medical student to post nudes online. They're honestly so softcore. I almost can't believe that any man who came of age with the internet could fap to these pictures. I just remember during Superstorm Sandy we were out of power for weeks. All of my guy friends said that they had to TRY to use their mother's VS catalogs to get off, but few were actually successful; they NEEDED videos. Pictures, whether print or posted online, are such primitive forms of pornography. In so many words, I doubt anyone is really going to find these pictures. They'd have to hunt for them. I'm neither famous nor a mainstay on popular porn website like redtube, xtube, or pornhub. The only way these pictures would come back to haunt me is if someone were deliberately trying to sabotage me. Of course that is INCREDIBLY likely in a medical school environment, and IMHO, that speaks of character flaws far greater than just posting the nudes online in the first place.

At the end of the day, I feel you've made your life harder than it needs to be. Sharing and publicizing sexual abuse is a must but as a medical professional, I don't find posting nudes appropriate. Also, it doesn't seem safe to post pics like that, you never know. But if you are comfortable with your decisions and consequences, then whatever people say shouldn't matter. It should be a healthy discussion. I definitely don't think it's ok for people to hate on you or judge you but at the same time, the people defending you are doing the same to them and they come across as bitter.

 

[tantacles]

Lol this is getting stupid. A lot of people debating points that aren't relevant, and responding to people's posts with explanations that have nothing to do with the original point.

What do you see as the original point, then? Sum it up for us.

 

[evilbooyaa]

I wouldn't say I'm vehemently defending my behavior. I guess the overwhelming attack made me a little defensive. I'm sorry if I lost my cool there with anatomoses, but I'm pretty sure she got off on insulting me somehow. To each her own, right?

I didn't say you were vehemently defending yourself. I said we (the SDN forum) were discussing (the situation as a whole) vehemently. You were justifying/defending yourself because you were being attacked by a significant proportion of the posters in this thread.

All of my guy friends said that they had to TRY to use their mother's VS catalogs to get off, but few were actually successful; they NEEDED videos. Pictures, whether print or posted online, are such primitive forms of pornography.

Noobs. You can't get used to premium HD vids, otherwise you end up in a similar pickle to your friends. All surveyors of porn should maintain the imagination that we had when we were teenagers in high school with raging hormones.

In so many words, I doubt anyone is really going to find these pictures. They'd have to hunt for them. I'm neither famous nor a mainstay on popular porn website like redtube, xtube, or pornhub.

Fair. That's going to be the next thing that blows my mind (if it doesn't exist already).

The only way these pictures would come back to haunt me is if someone were deliberately trying to sabotage me. Of course that is INCREDIBLY likely in a medical school environment, and IMHO, that speaks of character flaws far greater than just posting the nudes online in the first place.

Literally all it takes is one person who doesn't like you during ANY ONE TIME in your career for this to happen. Which will happen at least once, if not as a medical student, then definitely as a resident. It might not even be a medical student. It might be ancillary staff that you disagreed with once. Just something to consider.

 

[bangarang]

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[chopes31]

Couldn't resist

 

[tantacles]

I see now. There is no right or wrong answer to that, so this thread will forever go in circles with everyone trying to convince everyone else that their opinions are wrong. This signals my exit.

You got it. There are logical arguments that can be made for punishment, and there are logical arguments that can be made against it.

 

[scarshapedstar]

People like the OP are why we can't have nice things.

That said I think that society and her patients and stuff will be concerned... yeah, deeply concerned.... fapfapfapfapfapfap

(that's what the moralizing here seems to boil down to)

 

[JP2740]

Bro no ones fapping to that I hope. Not quality

 

[throwaway2evry1]

Bro no ones fapping to that I hope. Not quality

My point exactly.

 

[SlickNickMD]

This poor lady clearly had a bright future ahead of her in diagnostic radiology. She can set up and run a webcam in between reading x-rays.

 

[ijn]

This poor lady clearly had a bright future ahead of her in diagnostic radiology. She can set up and run a webcam in between reading x-rays.

And she can post x-rays of herself on reddit with various objects inside her assorted orifices.

 

[Didierdrogba]

And she can post x-rays of herself on reddit with various objects inside her assorted orifices.

you really do have some very interesting fetishes...

 

[celkon]

damn, and I thought stupid people arguing on the internet was bad...

Intelligent people are 1000x worse, its like little 6 year old running around

 

[topdogdoc]

Bro no ones fapping to that I hope. Not quality

I'd fap to it. What's not to like? Elegant breasts, nice face, great body. Imagination takes care of the rest (that's what we did before dial-ups went the way of the dodo, you know).

Anyways, I disagree with the idea that she has somehow defamed our profession by doing a personal act. That's like saying that patients will think all doctors are murderers because that one BU med student turned out to be a serial killer. We are individuals responsible for our own actions, and there is a ridiculous amount of self-aggrandizing of our profession and status going on here. In the words of Coach Popovich: "Get over yourself".

However, I think there are inherent risks for Nina in doing this. Medicine is very conservative. We may debate whether or not it should be this way, but as of right now (and for the forseeable future), it will be like this. I don't know if she will be kicked out of school for this (she shouldn't). But she will have a difficult time finding a residency if this becomes recognizable. Even if she does, she opens herself up to unnecessary sexual advances by superiors/co-workers. Her career advancement may be put in jeapordy until return of a sexual favor (whether intended or not, some guys read into this as a promiscuous nature and try to take advantage. Is it wrong? Yes. Does still happen? Absolutely.) Finally, Nina runs the risk of just not being taken seriously by her colleagues or patients. I am confident she is an intelligent, bright girl. However, perceptions and human behavior are not dictated by reason or facts. People do in fact judge books by their covers; it is just fact we have deal with. It's one of the lessons I had to learn, when I went from dressing like a slob to dressing very professionally at my job prior to med school. I noticed people weren't taking me seriously and I knew it was my dress attire that was causing it. It's remarkable what changing attire styles did to people's perceptions. I was still the same guy, reliable as always. But people started behaving differently.

tl;dr: Nina is fap worthy, her decisions don't impact our profession, but she has made a very questionable personal career-impacting decision.

Edit: excuse the numerous typos. I typed all this on my phone.

 

[SlickNickMD]

And she can post x-rays of herself on reddit with various objects inside her assorted orifices.

 

[ijn]

I wouldn't say I'm vehemently defending my behavior. I guess the overwhelming attack made me a little defensive. I'm sorry if I lost my cool there with anatomoses, but I'm pretty sure she got off on insulting me somehow. To each her own, right?

I can't possibly be the first medical student to post nudes online. They're honestly so softcore. I almost can't believe that any man who came of age with the internet could fap to these pictures. I just remember during Superstorm Sandy we were out of power for weeks. All of my guy friends said that they had to TRY to use their mother's VS catalogs to get off, but few were actually successful; they NEEDED videos. Pictures, whether print or posted online, are such primitive forms of pornography. In so many words, I doubt anyone is really going to find these pictures. They'd have to hunt for them. I'm neither famous nor a mainstay on popular porn website like redtube, xtube, or pornhub. The only way these pictures would come back to haunt me is if someone were deliberately trying to sabotage me. Of course that is INCREDIBLY likely in a medical school environment, and IMHO, that speaks of character flaws far greater than just posting the nudes online in the first place.

I rubbed one out earlier in honor of you babe. Ty for material. Triple A rating. Would invest in your government bonds any day.

 

[scarshapedstar]

I can't possibly be the first medical student to post nudes online. They're honestly so softcore. I almost can't believe that any man who came of age with the internet could fap to these pictures. I just remember during Superstorm Sandy we were out of power for weeks. All of my guy friends said that they had to TRY to use their mother's VS catalogs to get off, but few were actually successful; they NEEDED videos.

Why, back in ought-three, we had to download our porn, and it took longer than simply walking to the bar and bringing home a tramp. But at least it was there for a rainy day... don't these kids know to just run a search for *.avi and see what turns up?

 

[Anigma07]

My point exactly.

Nina, listen: Most of these kids still have their V-cards or are praying to god everyday that they are somehow in a relationship with another med student. There are some normal people on here but most are med students who are clueless around women (at least as witnessed at my school).

Keep doing your thing and keep the uploads flowing.

 

[JP2740]

What do you see as the original point, then? Sum it up for us.

You fear me.

 

[qtpai]

It's more than that. It's understood that there ARE consequences. What we're debating is whether there SHOULD be consequences, which is a completely different argument.

Whether there should or should not be consequences is not something that physicians can control.

These actions affect patients' perceptions of one doctor, and by extension, to the degree that this behavior is considered acceptable by physicians, doctors as a whole.

Physicians are subject to those perceptions of patients; the perceptions are not subject to the whims of physicians.

If patients are completely unreasonable in their perceptions--say, in believing something false and harmful--then it might be the place of physicians to stand against that. Unfortunately, in this case, I do not think this is so.

Although the nude photos are harmless from a strictly physical point of view--as is running around screaming in a hotel lobby--posting nude photos and running around screaming in a hotel lobby show poor judgment and character. Each of these actions also hints at deeper psychological issues--which I believe have been further alluded to by the posts of the person that we are discussing.

Altogether, medicine being a profession that requires particularly good judgment, and to a degree, good character, patients' would be right to suspect someone who posts nudes or participates openly in Internet pornography or runs around hotel rooms screaming as potentially lacking in the sorts of things necessary to being a good physician.

Therefore, physicians would be right to support negative consequences against those who represent the profession poorly in this way--by running around hotel lobbies screaming or openly posting nudes on reddit, while openly identifying themselves as belonging to the medical profession.

To those who say I'm some virgin nerd: not true at all. I've had my fun before I sold my soul to the medical profession. I've also done my fair share of things that could come back to haunt me, that I believe most likely will. That's in fact the reason that I think I am justified in posting as I am. I can relate.

Libertarian ideals and/or harm-reduction are one thing. Encouraging the best from the people we know is something different. The medical profession should hold itself to high standards--not allow itself to merely to get by. This kind of behavior does not meet these high standards.

Even more crucially, it is, in the long run and for the majority of people, also psychologically unhealthy. That it should then be glorified by some is, then, particularly blamable.

 

[qtpai]

I don't think I could delve into an obviously non-existent sex-life. You're a either a very frigid woman or an man who judges so harshly that many women would feel uncomfortable around you.

I'm probably the least scary or intimidating person you could ever meet and that's how I'm certain you're a woman because I don't think I've ever met a man who was actually afraid of me.

Lastly, I hate the labels. There's no "male sexuality." Some men are heterosexual, some men are homosexual, some have foot fetishes, others like banging milfs. Everyone is different. You don't know everything about men, the same as you don't know everything about women and you certainly know nothing about me.

u dont know me!!!1

Yeah, sure, we don't know you. I mean, except what you look like naked.

 

[tantacles]

Whether there should or should not be consequences is not something that physicians can control.

These actions affect patients' perceptions of one doctor, and by extension, to the degree that this behavior is considered acceptable by physicians, doctors as a whole.

Physicians are subject to those perceptions of patients; the perceptions are not subject to the whims of physicians.

If patients are completely unreasonable in their perceptions--say, in believing something false and harmful--then it might be the place of physicians to stand against that. Unfortunately, in this case, I do not think this is so.

Although the nude photos are harmless from a strictly physical point of view--as is running around screaming in a hotel lobby--posting nude photos and running around screaming in a hotel lobby show poor judgment and character. Each of these actions also hints at deeper psychological issues--which I believe have been further alluded to by the posts of the person that we are discussing.

This isn't necessarily true, as has been discussed. If you have a study to put forward, I'll read it, but as far as I know, it is probable that anyone who posts nude pictures online is in good mental health. In addition, people with psychological issues that are under treatment are regularly accepted to medical school.

Altogether, medicine being a profession that requires particularly good judgment, and to a degree, good character, patients' would be right to suspect someone who posts nudes or participates openly in Internet pornography or runs around hotel rooms screaming as potentially lacking in the sorts of things necessary to being a good physician.

Again, I don't believe that posting naked pictures constitutes bad judgment except insofar as many people believe that it constitutes bad judgment. Again, many people believe that being homosexual constitutes bad judgment. A practical reason for excluding these people from the practice of medicine is necessary.

Therefore, physicians would be right to support negative consequences against those who represent the profession poorly in this way--by running around hotel lobbies screaming or openly posting nudes on reddit, while openly identifying themselves as belonging to the medical profession.

Again, see the gay argument. In addition, physicians who perform elective abortions are harassed by conservative media for having terrible judgment, but those people are permitted to practice (as they should be).

To those who say I'm some virgin nerd: not true at all. I've had my fun before I sold my soul to the medical profession. I've also done my fair share of things that could come back to haunt me, that I believe most likely will. That's in fact the reason that I think I am justified in posting as I am. I can relate.

Libertarian ideals and/or harm-reduction are one thing. Encouraging the best from the people we know is something different. The medical profession should hold itself to high standards--not allow itself to merely to get by. This kind of behavior does not meet these high standards.

Even more crucially, it is, in the long run and for the majority of people, also psychologically unhealthy. That it should then be glorified by some is, then, particularly blamable.

Again, the psychological health of someone who posts nude pictures online can not be assumed. I very much doubt that an introspective person who understands his/her human condition well would be diagnosed solely on the basis of having posted nude pictures. I don't believe this kind of behavior provides even a hair of insight into mental health without looking at other factors. Even if there is a correlation, the pictures themselves and willingness to self-identify as a medical student are not in and of themselves a marker of bad judgment or mental illness.

 

[beBrave]

To those who say I'm some virgin nerd: not true at all. I've had my fun before I sold my soul to the medical profession. I've also done my fair share of things that could come back to haunt me, that I believe most likely will. That's in fact the reason that I think I am justified in posting as I am. I can relate.

Just because you can relate, doesn't give you any right to criticize. You made your own bed so lay in it. Nina is doing the same. Its ironic because she's not worried about the repercussions of her actions nearly as much as you guys are worried that her actions will damage the reputation of the profession. I feel so sorry for you because you really are delusional. Being a Medical Doctor is a job that requires ethics and professionalism like any other. It does not stand above the rest, it is all in your head. Its amazing how individuals like you maintain this way of thinking as they haul Medical Doctors off to Jail for illegal activities.

 

[ijn]

Just because you can relate, doesn't give you any right to criticize. You made your own bed so lay in it. Nina is doing the same. Its ironic because she's not worried about the repercussions of her actions nearly as much as you guys are worried that her actions will damage the reputation of the profession. I feel so sorry for you because you really are delusional. Being a Medical Doctor is a job that requires ethics and professionalism like any other. It does not stand above the rest, it is all in your head. Its amazing how individuals like you maintain this way of thinking as they haul Medical Doctors off to Jail for illegal activities.

She's not worried now because she's young, dumb, and (we hope) full of cum. But 10 or 15 years from now? She's not able to comprehend the consequences of her actions in the long term because she likely has a mental disorder. It feels good, now. That's all that matters to her. Mentally stable women take naked pictures of themselves. They don't post them on the internet. They send it to their boyfriend and/or sexting buddy.

 

[tantacles]

She's not worried now because she's young, dumb, and (we hope) full of cum. But 10 or 15 years from now? She's not able to comprehend the consequences of her actions in the long term because she likely has a mental disorder. It feels good, now. That's all that matters to her. Mentally stable women take naked pictures of themselves. They don't post them them on the internet. They send it to their boyfriend and/or sexting buddy.

Many mentally stable women do just this. Do you have any evidence to support your claim that all women who post pictures of themselves naked online have mental illness? Any evidence to support the claim that males who do the same don't have mental illness?

 

[beBrave]

She's not worried now because she's young, dumb, and (we hope) full of cum. But 10 or 15 years from now? She's not able to comprehend the consequences of her actions in the long term because she likely has a mental disorder. It feels good, now. That's all that matters to her. Mentally stable women take naked pictures of themselves. They don't post them on the internet. They send it to their boyfriend and/or sexting buddy.

You are incorrect and making assumptions. People who display signs of mental illness often have a difficult time accepting reality, taking ownership of their actions and constantly make excuses. To top it off, Mental illness often bleeds into other area's of an individuals life. Lets see, this girl is rational, responsible and intelligent. Her ability to live with her actions and remain a functional and capable member of society scares you and unnerves the very foundation that your fragile reality is situated upon.

 

[CDI]

She's not worried now because she's young, dumb, and (we hope) full of cum. But 10 or 15 years from now? She's not able to comprehend the consequences of her actions in the long term because she likely has a mental disorder. It feels good, now. That's all that matters to her. Mentally stable women take naked pictures of themselves. They don't post them on the internet. They send it to their boyfriend and/or sexting buddy.

Just out of curiosity - What do you think would be possible consequences 10-15 years down the road for someone in this position?

 

[ijn]

You are incorrect and making assumptions. People who display signs of mental illness often have a difficult time accepting reality, taking ownership of their actions and constantly make excuses. To top it off, Mental illness often bleeds into other area's of an individuals life. Lets see, this girl is rational, responsible and intelligent. Her ability to live with her actions and remain a functional and capable member of society scares you and unnerves the very foundation that your fragile reality is situated upon.

Yeah, there's absolutely no connection between her history of childhood sexual abuse, episode of date rape, and subsequent aberrant sexual behavior.

She ain't right in the head.

 

[tantacles]

Yeah, there's absolutely no connection between her history of childhood sexual abuse, episode of date rape, and subsequent aberrant sexual behavior.

She ain't right in the head.

We leave psychiatric diagnoses to psychiatrists for a reason. Her behavior isn't aberrant, and her posting history on reddit, in and of itself, does not contribute to a lack of functioning and, in my opinion, would not be considered aberrant sexual behavior.

In addition, you've made unsubstantiated judgments about the psychological health of women in general who post nude photos of themselves online. Do you have any evidence? If so, we're all listening.

The most common psychological issue that is a result of sexual assault (that I know of) is PTSD, and the poster hasn't revealed any red flags that, to me, suggests she's experiencing it.

 

[beBrave]

Yeah, there's absolutely no connection between her history of childhood sexual abuse, episode of date rape, and subsequent aberrant sexual behavior.

She ain't right in the head.

I completed almost two years in my Clinical Psychology program and the greatest lesson I learned was not to judge others. I left my program with straight A's knowing I knew nothing. I guess medical school is different as you still think you know everything.Then again, that's a generalized statement; there are bad apples in every bunch.

 

[ijn]

Just out of curiosity - What do you think would be possible consequences 10-15 years down the road for someone in this position?

Blackmail.

Sexual harassment from coworkers/residents/attending physicians. Especially if she wants to end up in a male dominated field.

Having her children come upon the photos one day. Having her children harassed at school because their mom was dumb 10-15 years ago.

Personally, the biggest issue if I were in her position is a residency program director looking up my name on Google and having it associated with any controversy whatsoever. It's far too easy for them to not extend an interview or rank highly for bull**** reasons when it's really because they think she's crazy.

And yeah, no matter how many times people in this thread say it - posting nude photos of yourself online with your identity attached is NOT normal. A 40-60 year old white male program director is going to have a far less generous reading of this incident than the white knights in this thread.

 

[Didierdrogba]

She's not worried now because she's young, dumb, and (we hope) full of cum. But 10 or 15 years from now? She's not able to comprehend the consequences of her actions in the long term because she likely has a mental disorder. It feels good, now. That's all that matters to her. Mentally stable women take naked pictures of themselves. They don't post them on the internet. They send it to their boyfriend and/or sexting buddy.

You comments are pretty pathetic dude. Nina seems to be a lot more well versed, and overall a more intelligent/ cool headed person compare to you. You just sound like a troll who runs his mouth on the internet right now

 

[ijn]

You comments are pretty pathetic dude. Nina seems to be a lot more well versed, and overall a more intelligent/ cool headed person compare to you. You just sound like a troll who runs his mouth on the internet right now

Yeah, well, if I had perky tits and uninhibited sexual behavior you'd like me too.

 

[Didierdrogba]

Yeah, well, if I had perky tits and uninhibited sexual behavior you'd like me too.

wow

are you serious?

you are unbelievable.

Why everything you think about is related to sex? You'd make Freud proud

 

[CDI]

Blackmail.

Sexual harassment from coworkers/residents/attending physicians. Especially if she wants to end up in a male dominated field.

Having her children come upon the photos one day. Having her children harassed at school because their mom was dumb 10-15 years ago.

Personally, the biggest issue if I were in her position is a residency program director looking up my name on Google and having it associated with any controversy whatsoever. It's far too easy for them to not extend an interview or rank highly for bull**** reasons when it's really because they think she's crazy.

And yeah, no matter how many times people in this thread say it - posting nude photos of yourself online with your identity attached is NOT normal. A 40-60 year old white male program director is going to have a far less generous reading of this incident than the white knights in this thread.

Blackmail - If she doesn't even care, blackmail is non-issue.

Sexual harassment - Anything and everything is sexual harassment these days. Don't think anyones dumb enough to risk their own careers for calling her out or getting into a legal situation regarding that. If they do, they're more likely to get screwed for it.

Residency - I agree with that. Although, if she gets a 270, PDs will consider her Mother Teresa and welcome her with open arms. Step 1 the great equalizer of all mankind.

 

[Didierdrogba]

Sexual harassment - Anything and everything is sexual harassment these days. Don't think anyones dumb enough to risk their own careers for calling her out or getting into a legal situation regarding that. If they do, they're more likely to get screwed for it.

Additionally, in sexual harassment, the aggressor is at fault, not the victim. Stop blaming victims.

 

[CDI]

Additionally, in sexual harassment, the aggressor is at fault, not the victim. Stop blaming victims.

I thought I just said that...

 

[Didierdrogba]

I thought I just said that...

tl;dr sorry

 

[tantacles]

I thought I just said that...

The other poster was adding to your point and chastising the others in the thread who are blaming Nina1987, not yelling at you. At least, that was my read.

 

[qtpai]

Not everyone who is "sexually harassed" is blame-free. Every system can be and will be abused.

 

[ebbandflow83]

OK I read the whole thing. I think we pretty much covered all the bases. MVP goes to tantacles for his well-reasoned, level-headed responses, even in the face of some species of mutant super trolls.

Nina, thanks so much for joining our discussion. Good luck with everything. I know you probably don't need me telling you, but just wanted to say that you haven't done anything wrong and you have the strength (and ethical authority) to defend your decisions should the need arise.

I hope that more physicians start to understand the points brought up here. As much as people would like to deny it, this issue is impossible to separate from structural violence, double standards, chauvinism and yes, professionalism. On that last point, I feel this thread has shown while professionalism has little to do with Nina's situation, the way that people respond to her situation is quite revealing.