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So I just have to know-- unmarried Resident Males out there-- why on earth would you rather date/marry a nurse or medical assistant when there are so many single female residents out there? I keep seeing this over and over as I rotate through hospitals-- do men not care about someone matching them in intelligence!? (sorry, no offense to RNs or MAs). Are men only looking for the best-looking partner or ones that are "easy" they can find? Any insight would be appreciated!
OH WOW!!! EPIPHANY!!! This is prob the BEST response i've ever received-- so simple yet it explains so much! I always thought it would make sense for a male resident to date another female resident-- so that's double a six-figure salary in the future, and who knows, BOTH can work part-time (so work less and enjoy life more) and still live big! Why on earth would a guy want to work that hard to be the breadwinner when they could work less with someone who is an equal partner!? I guess the male domination explanation makes more sense. So maybe intelligence/achievement and substance isn't what men are looking for. Maybe I've had it all wrong-- what's the point of females being educated!? It seems like males tend to pick the prettiest and easiest women! Anyway, thank you so much for the response!
Oh ya, its totally because men have a need to feel superior and we are somehow intimidated by "successful" women. Glad to see you guys are latching on to the ridiculous feminist ideals that are permeating society instead of thinking about logical reasons.
There are some major pros and cons both ways (all great essays start with this sentence). I've been dating a classmate for three years (met before school), so you know which way I picked -- but at the same time you have to appreciate some cons you're working with.So I just have to know-- unmarried Resident Males out there-- why on earth would you rather date/marry a nurse or medical assistant when there are so many single female residents out there? I keep seeing this over and over as I rotate through hospitals-- do men not care about someone matching them in intelligence!? (sorry, no offense to RNs or MAs). Are men only looking for the best-looking partner or ones that are "easy" they can find? Any insight would be appreciated!
There are some major pros and cons both ways (all great essays start with this sentence). I've been dating a classmate for three years (met before school), so you know which way I picked -- but at the same time you have to appreciate some cons you're working with.
If you're a doctor (med student here) 55-75 hours/week, can you really hate on the guy who wants to go home and NOT talk to a doctor woman about if the hospital sucked today, paying off med loans, what you ate at the hospital cafeteria while you were on call, who has call, etc. Not that this is all you're going to talk about, but for damn sure it's going to come up during dinner. It'd maybe be nice to not have that, and even someone who was lighthearted and didn't mention anything serious at all. Granted, this is better if your gf/wife is a lawyer or Red Cross volunteer than a nurse, who is at least also going to be mentioning medical topics. But you'd get the idea that a nurse is going to have different dinner convo than another MD.
But then you have the fact that they'll be pulling in 250k, are definitely intelligent, and most MD girls are smokin' hot, and you've got a solid contender. But you can't begrudge the guy who wants to clock out from that at 6pm.
agree with scottD. I married my wife (Bsc biomed) and never ever thought of marrying another doctor. It is funny that my wife often asks me the same question as to why won't i marry another doctor. The answer is pretty simple. Being a doctor is stressful enough with the daily grind of calls and such. I want to be able to go home, enjoy a home cooked meal, have a non-medical related talk over dinner time and enjoy the company of my spouse. Imagine you try to discuss some medical case with your spouse who is a doctor (and maybe a better one than you are), she would try to argue and dispute the way you manage a patient and that to me is pretty exhausting.
It is kind of mean for you to say that RNs, PAs and other non-medical folks are dumb. These people may not be medical-smart but they might be street-smart or good in art or have other talents that boring doctors like us don't =)
Maybe it is just me but i think that having 2 six figure income without a family life is pretty dull. You can outsource everything but your big mega-mansion house is an empty shell, just a place to rest till the next morning begins for work.[/QUOTET
Well said. Although I would never go for RN or PA or MA, or any girls in the hospital at all. Have you seen them?
I want to be able to go home, enjoy a home cooked meal, have a non-medical related talk over dinner time and enjoy the company of my spouse. Imagine you try to discuss some medical case with your spouse who is a doctor (and maybe a better one than you are), she would try to argue and dispute the way you manage a patient and that to me is pretty exhausting.
You've decided that marrying another physician is bad because of a hypothetical situation in which your wife (who - HORRORS - might be better at medicine than you!) argues with the way you manage a patient?
I don't tell my boyfriend how to manage his patients, and he doesn't tell me how to manage mine. We're in two fairly different fields, but we respect each other enough to let the other one do their job without criticism.
Oh ya, its totally because men have a need to feel superior and we are somehow intimidated by "successful" women. Glad to see you guys are latching on to the ridiculous feminist ideals that are permeating society instead of thinking about logical reasons.
There are some major pros and cons both ways (all great essays start with this sentence). I've been dating a classmate for three years (met before school), so you know which way I picked -- but at the same time you have to appreciate some cons you're working with.
If you're a doctor (med student here) 55-75 hours/week, can you really hate on the guy who wants to go home and NOT talk to a doctor woman about if the hospital sucked today, paying off med loans, what you ate at the hospital cafeteria while you were on call, who has call, etc. Not that this is all you're going to talk about, but for damn sure it's going to come up during dinner. It'd maybe be nice to not have that, and even someone who was lighthearted and didn't mention anything serious at all. Granted, this is better if your gf/wife is a lawyer or Red Cross volunteer than a nurse, who is at least also going to be mentioning medical topics. But you'd get the idea that a nurse is going to have different dinner convo than another MD.
But then you have the fact that they'll be pulling in 250k, are definitely intelligent, and most MD girls are smokin' hot, and you've got a solid contender. But you can't begrudge the guy who wants to clock out from that at 6pm.
There aren't many happy, non-stressed, good looking, female residents. Half I have met love to prove how the man is trying to put them down and how they must grow a pair to fight for their rights.
You must not be looking hard enough. Go to the derm, rad onc, psych, anesthesia, rads, PMR, etc departments and you'll see plenty of attractive, easy going, female residents. I think the "I am a ball-buster" type attitude is more prevalent in fields where women are less prevalent, such as surgery and what not, which likely coincides with the stressed, unhappy, not as good looking, scenario.
So I guess the one thing that females do better than males is thinking more long term. Looks fade over time-- so the hotter, less stressed MA/PA/RN now may not look so hot after a few kids, or when middle-age hits. Also, that less-educated non-employable housewife will have absolutely nothing to lose in a marriage to a male Physician. If the marriage doesn't work out, that's beautiful alimony for life-- or throw in some kids, and then you have alimony and child support for having not having gone through the pain and work of more education. If it was a MD/MD marriage- both parties would have absolutely just as much to lose financially, etc...so that's more incentive to work through different ruts in marriages. In terms of an MD/MD marriage, I would think males would jump all over that being able to work part-time and having their partner take up some of the slack by financially contributing too. I don't know, I guess situations are all different...but I really appreciate the posts on the reasoning behind selecting someone who is less-educated....it makes sense in the short-term, but long term...I would think it'd be boring to have a partner that can't relate to your work (so doesn't understand why you have to put in so many hours, or are too tired to go party all the time, or has absolutely no idea what you do but has no issues on spending your money). Anyway, thanks everyone for your insights, it's been very interesting!
I need to smoke this magic powder you guys are on.
If (Male_Resident Not with Me) Then
-->Woman_he_is_with = dumb_easy_slut
Else If (Male_Resident with Me) Then
-->Man = Confident&Secure
Else
-->Me = too_smart_for_men
This makes so much sense. Thank you for the inspiration everyone.
Hey it goes both ways:
If (Woman I am not interested in, interested in me) Then
---> Woman crazy stalker psycho bitch
Else if (Woman I am interested in, not interested in me) Then
___> Lesbian
Hey it goes both ways:
If (Woman I am not interested in, interested in me) Then
---> Woman crazy stalker psycho bitch
Else if (Woman I am interested in, not interested in me) Then
___> Lesbian
I am a resident, and I am married to an MD, and she is the most amazing ever. I guess I was lucky to find a girl that is smart, accomplished, but most importantly has that home grown traditional side. And there are plenty of examples that I know of like my mom and my sisters. There are plenty of great female docs out there.
Female doctors tend to be very driven, are very inteligent, and accomphlished. Like all docs, they are used to never being told they are wrong, they are used to calling the shots, they are used to commanding respect, getting things on demand, and having people running to thier beckoning call and looking up to them.
Now that mentatlity tends to apply to other things in life,,,,and Men have a tough time dealing with it. We are built to have the dominant mentality.
If both can acceapt thier roles and work together...then there really is no problem.
here is an example.
A well accomplished corporate exec went on a date with a fellow female exec, and then never went out with her again. He ended up dating the pretty and dumb secretary. The female exec was furious and asked him what he saw in her. To which he replied...we went to dinner, I told you that I got my bachelors are yale, you said you went to harvard. I then said I got my masters from princeton, you said you got yours from colombia. I then went on to say how worked for this big corporation and pulled of this amazing project, to which she shot back and said that she worked for this other big corp, and pulled off this other amazing accomplishment.
The man then went on to say...what i was doing with you, is what I do all day at work....competing. But the secretary...no matter what I said, she looked up at me like I was the greatest thing in the world. I can be a plumber, or the worlds most accomplished person, but in her eyes I am a king.
Lesson: If a man feels like he is the greatest thing in the world, and is the king of his castle, he will be happiest man ever.....and he will always make his wife feel like the queen of the world.
Its just the way the world works.......and I was lucky enough to marry the most amazing woman in the world who also happens to be very accomplished.
So I just have to know-- unmarried Resident Males out there-- why on earth would you rather date/marry a nurse or medical assistant when there are so many single female residents out there? I keep seeing this over and over as I rotate through hospitals-- do men not care about someone matching them in intelligence!? (sorry, no offense to RNs or MAs). Are men only looking for the best-looking partner or ones that are "easy" they can find? Any insight would be appreciated!
So I guess the one thing that females do better than males is thinking more long term. Looks fade over time-- so the hotter, less stressed MA/PA/RN now may not look so hot after a few kids, or when middle-age hits. Also, that less-educated non-employable housewife will have absolutely nothing to lose in a marriage to a male Physician. If the marriage doesn't work out, that's beautiful alimony for life-- or throw in some kids, and then you have alimony and child support for having not having gone through the pain and work of more education. If it was a MD/MD marriage- both parties would have absolutely just as much to lose financially, etc...so that's more incentive to work through different ruts in marriages. In terms of an MD/MD marriage, I would think males would jump all over that being able to work part-time and having their partner take up some of the slack by financially contributing too. I don't know, I guess situations are all different...but I really appreciate the posts on the reasoning behind selecting someone who is less-educated....it makes sense in the short-term, but long term...I would think it'd be boring to have a partner that can't relate to your work (so doesn't understand why you have to put in so many hours, or are too tired to go party all the time, or has absolutely no idea what you do but has no issues on spending your money). Anyway, thanks everyone for your insights, it's been very interesting!
I am a resident, and I am married to an MD, and she is the most amazing ever. I guess I was lucky to find a girl that is smart, accomplished, but most importantly has that home grown traditional side. And there are plenty of examples that I know of like my mom and my sisters. There are plenty of great female docs out there.
Female doctors tend to be very driven, are very inteligent, and accomphlished. Like all docs, they are used to never being told they are wrong, they are used to calling the shots, they are used to commanding respect, getting things on demand, and having people running to thier beckoning call and looking up to them.
Now that mentatlity tends to apply to other things in life,,,,and Men have a tough time dealing with it. We are built to have the dominant mentality.
If both can acceapt thier roles and work together...then there really is no problem.
here is an example.
A well accomplished corporate exec went on a date with a fellow female exec, and then never went out with her again. He ended up dating the pretty and dumb secretary. The female exec was furious and asked him what he saw in her. To which he replied...we went to dinner, I told you that I got my bachelors are yale, you said you went to harvard. I then said I got my masters from princeton, you said you got yours from colombia. I then went on to say how worked for this big corporation and pulled of this amazing project, to which she shot back and said that she worked for this other big corp, and pulled off this other amazing accomplishment.
The man then went on to say...what i was doing with you, is what I do all day at work....competing. But the secretary...no matter what I said, she looked up at me like I was the greatest thing in the world. I can be a plumber, or the worlds most accomplished person, but in her eyes I am a king.
Lesson: If a man feels like he is the greatest thing in the world, and is the king of his castle, he will be happiest man ever.....and he will always make his wife feel like the queen of the world.
Its just the way the world works.......and I was lucky enough to marry the most amazing woman in the world who also happens to be very accomplished.
There are also plenty of smart, educated women dating/marrying below themselves as well. I cant tell you the amount of losers the girls in my pharm class got with.
I look for equals.....they just dont look for me.
Men want a woman and someone who acts like a woman who likes to do womanly things. Nothing against female physicians and female professionals in general but they tend to be more manly than womanly. Who wants to come home to that?
Men want a woman and someone who acts like a woman who likes to do womanly things. Nothing against female physicians and female professionals in general but they tend to be more manly than womanly. Who wants to come home to that?
So you're a teenager or ******ed?
The problem with this thread is that it's a bunch of women who have no idea what men are like. They think men should make the same partner choices as them, and since we don't, they go on some feminist drivel about inequality or mock some of the members here as infantile or ******ed. Very mature, btw.
- Men are not like women. Period.
- Men aren't biologically wired to make the same partner choices as women.
- Some men have accepted this fact and couldn't care less that you don't. We don't dictate your partner choices; maybe we should. Since you make enough money, you should pick up that hot young guy working at Subway.
- Social trends are forcing a lot of successful, educated women to make that hard choice to remain single or choose down. Sorry ladies, you can't have your cake and eat it.
- To repeat, given a choice, most men will rely on their biological instincts to pick his mate. He will not pick the average-looking fat girl with a great career and snarky attitude over the attractive young nurse who is eager to have kids and stay at home. Come to think of it, this is not unlike you guys and your impossible preferences for some mythical Superman figure.
I feel so sorry for female professionals, so most guys want the hot nurse who's eager to stay at home? I don't. If I had the choice between hot female nurse and hot female doctor I would choose the doctor. WTH does the girl with the great career have to be average looking and fat, while the nurse is young and hot? Besides nurses are dumb as hell, how would one have an intellectual conversation with a nurse? Most of them subconsciously hate doctors and wish they had the brains and determination to be one.