MPH / MSPH 2021: Applied, Accepted, Waitlisted, Rejected, Attending

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masterspls said:
Anyone still waiting on a decision from NYU? I’m starting to get discouraged 😢 sent for review 1/27 and haven’t heard anything since
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I was sent for review a week before you and just heard last week, so hopefully you hear later this/next week! I know things vary between departments...I applied for health policy.
 
Goalie013 said:
I applied to JHU MSPH for Global disease and Epi control (verified 1/15 - sent to review 1/24) and I haven’t heard anything.... does this mean a rejection? I tried reaching out but they gave me a generic response. Really nervous now.
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I don't think so. I applied 12/27, routed for review 12/28 and static ever since. They did say rolling until 1/15 so I figure they'll do batches now.
 
assuming columbias due date is 4/15 couldnt find the decision deadline
 
This is random but I was talking to a couple of MPH alumni yesterday and they mentioned that the field of public health is mostly women (which makes sense considering most programs say their demographics are 70-80% women). I wonder why that is? Anyone have thoughts?
 
westonsided said:
This is random but I was talking to a couple of MPH alumni yesterday and they mentioned that the field of public health is mostly women (which makes sense considering most programs say their demographics are 70-80% women). I wonder why that is? Anyone have thoughts?
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This shocked me when I entered Undergrad because I always saw epidemiologists as males. I was usually part of the 5 dudes in my classes.
 
westonsided said:
This is random but I was talking to a couple of MPH alumni yesterday and they mentioned that the field of public health is mostly women (which makes sense considering most programs say their demographics are 70-80% women). I wonder why that is? Anyone have thoughts?
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Nearly every school I looked at, their stats. The majority of the class was women. Around 75-80 percent. I dont know how accurate this information was, it was listed on the. school website. PH is known as a helping field, similar to psychology. That may be why. Im a male so this is gonna be interesting for me.

Maybe different fields in PH have more males in it? I dont know.
 
did everyone who got into columbia interview? submitted my app 1/09 and still haven't heard anything
 
psepi39 said:
Hi!! How did you find out? Via portal or email??
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I got an email! My portal still says "Decision awaiting" or something like that. The way they did it was a bit ... unorthodox. I have to respond to the email to reject/accept my decision. Then, they will update my portal. Then, I will pay the deposit.
 
westonsided said:
This is random but I was talking to a couple of MPH alumni yesterday and they mentioned that the field of public health is mostly women (which makes sense considering most programs say their demographics are 70-80% women). I wonder why that is? Anyone have thoughts?
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I think maybe for two reasons, based in mostly gender norms/biases and structural gender inequities - its a bit of a slower paced field than medicine and in that way is more friendly in terms of family planning/mat leave but is still in the general medical/health field. I also think that because of its association with medicine but focus on social sciences its seen as softer science and it is a more empathy based field (similar to how nursing is regarded). For example, I once told a peer that I wanted to pursue public health and he said that only people who weren't smart enough for medicine went into the field (which is absolutely not true and that comment frustrates me to this day). None of these reasons are fair or justified in my opinion but I think thats the reality of gender based/patriarchal norms still embedded in medicine/science today.

This is just my brief and probably uninformed observation and would love to hear what other people think!! 🙂
 
crashfan said:
This shocked me when I entered Undergrad because I always saw epidemiologists as males. I was usually part of the 5 dudes in my classes.
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Honestly shocked me in undergrad too. I was environmental health and even though our major was small, we had like... 6 (?maybe?) dudes total.
I think it has to do with the gender norm of men studying "hard" sciences to be honest. The sex ratio for the environmental "science" "(as opposed to "health") major had way more dudes. Obviously a really simple explanation, and completely based on generalizations, but I think it might contribute.
 
lmarph said:
I think maybe for two reasons, based in mostly gender norms/biases and structural gender inequities - its a bit of a slower paced field than medicine and in that way is more friendly in terms of family planning/mat leave but is still in the general medical/health field. I also think that because of its association with medicine but focus on social sciences its seen as softer science and it is a more empathy based field (similar to how nursing is regarded). For example, I once told a peer that I wanted to pursue public health and he said that only people who weren't smart enough for medicine went into the field (which is absolutely not true and that comment frustrates me to this day). None of these reasons are fair or justified in my opinion but I think thats the reality of gender based/patriarchal norms still embedded in medicine/science today.

This is just my brief and probably uninformed observation and would love to hear what other people think!! 🙂
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This is true. It goes back into the idea that men were suppose to be the high earners for the family decades ago. Fields like engineering, finance, business, STEM are male dominated. Obviously this is changing and we are heading in the right direction.
 
Spartacous1 said:
This is true. It goes back into the idea that men were suppose to be the high earners for the family decades ago. Fields like engineering, finance, business, STEM are male dominated. Obviously this is changing and we are heading in the right direction.
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Maybe after this pandemic, Public Health will be better funded!
 
Are people who got admitted at Columbia a while ago still waiting for financial aid? I am an international student and got admitted a year ago but chose to defer. I have never heard from them regarding financial aid last year, but as I should be reconsidered this year, I was hoping to hear something, even if they wouldn't be giving me anything.
 
lmarph said:
I think maybe for two reasons, based in mostly gender norms/biases and structural gender inequities - its a bit of a slower paced field than medicine and in that way is more friendly in terms of family planning/mat leave but is still in the general medical/health field. I also think that because of its association with medicine but focus on social sciences its seen as softer science and it is a more empathy based field (similar to how nursing is regarded). For example, I once told a peer that I wanted to pursue public health and he said that only people who weren't smart enough for medicine went into the field (which is absolutely not true and that comment frustrates me to this day). None of these reasons are fair or justified in my opinion but I think thats the reality of gender based/patriarchal norms still embedded in medicine/science today.

This is just my brief and probably uninformed observation and would love to hear what other people think!! 🙂
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I definitely agree with your assessment. I get the impression that guys are encouraged to pursue higher paying fields like engineering, computer science, finance, medicine etc. rather than lower paying helping professions.

When I went to nursing school, I wasn't expecting to see that many guys, but we ended up comprising about 20 to 30% of the class. After talking with some of the other male students, the impression I got was that most of them wanted to become RNs because it paid well in Northern California (average RN salary here is above $100k) and mainly wanted to work ED or ICU. Of course they were good people who wanted to help others, but I think the potential pay was a big incentive over here.
 
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westonsided said:
This is random but I was talking to a couple of MPH alumni yesterday and they mentioned that the field of public health is mostly women (which makes sense considering most programs say their demographics are 70-80% women). I wonder why that is? Anyone have thoughts?
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I'm curious as to why also. Even for my future field (health policy) my prospective class is like 75-80% female.
 
lmarph said:
I think maybe for two reasons, based in mostly gender norms/biases and structural gender inequities - its a bit of a slower paced field than medicine and in that way is more friendly in terms of family planning/mat leave but is still in the general medical/health field. I also think that because of its association with medicine but focus on social sciences its seen as softer science and it is a more empathy based field (similar to how nursing is regarded). For example, I once told a peer that I wanted to pursue public health and he said that only people who weren't smart enough for medicine went into the field (which is absolutely not true and that comment frustrates me to this day). None of these reasons are fair or justified in my opinion but I think thats the reality of gender based/patriarchal norms still embedded in medicine/science today.

This is just my brief and probably uninformed observation and would love to hear what other people think!! 🙂
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This was my thought too! We talked about this phenomenon in my sociology of gender class; even today, the assumption is man=doctor, woman=nurse (even though there are now more women enrolled in medical school than men!) The alumni also said a lot of the men in public health are gay/queer which is consistent with other "empathetic" fields like nursing.

In my undergraduate public health courses, a lot of the time there tends to be a pretty even split between women and men but it seems like a lot of the men are pre-meds. In anything gender related, such as my Maternal and Child Health course, I'm one of the only guys which always frustrates me because I believe we should all care about the health and wellbeing of women and children.

Anyways I'm happy to entering a field with empathetic people 🙂
 
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McLao said:
I definitely agree with your assessment. I get the impression that guys are encouraged to pursue higher paying fields like engineering, computer science, finance, medicine etc. rather than lower paying helping professions.

When I went to nursing school, I wasn't expecting to see that many guys, but we ended up comprising about 20 to 30% of the class. After talking with some of the other male students, the impression I got was that most of them wanted to become RNs because it paid well in Northern California (average RN salary here is above $100k) and mainly wanted to work ED or ICU. Of course they were good people who wanted to help others, but I think the potential pay was a big incentive over here.
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This is for global health specifically but I wouldn't be surprised if the same applied to public health at large: I've seen several articles about how the global health field at large is dominated by women, yet women are still overwhelmingly underrepresented in leadership positions within the same field.
 
lmarph said:
I think maybe for two reasons, based in mostly gender norms/biases and structural gender inequities - its a bit of a slower paced field than medicine and in that way is more friendly in terms of family planning/mat leave but is still in the general medical/health field. I also think that because of its association with medicine but focus on social sciences its seen as softer science and it is a more empathy based field (similar to how nursing is regarded). For example, I once told a peer that I wanted to pursue public health and he said that only people who weren't smart enough for medicine went into the field (which is absolutely not true and that comment frustrates me to this day). None of these reasons are fair or justified in my opinion but I think thats the reality of gender based/patriarchal norms still embedded in medicine/science today.

This is just my brief and probably uninformed observation and would love to hear what other people think!! 🙂
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I don't get why there's this assumption that everyone wants to be a medical doctor. I sure as hell don't-but great for anyone who does. It's not a field that's compatible with me as far as what I'm looking for in a career. Don't understand why that's always seen as the end game or the "dream job" especially when many students have to go in hundred of thousands of dollars worth of debt and don't really get to enjoy the fruits of their labor until much, much later if ever at all. Every field has its pros and cons. It's just a matter of what is the best fit for you. Not about a title or trying to impress people.
 
ariengo said:
I don't get why there's this assumption that everyone wants to be a medical doctor. I sure as hell don't-but great for anyone who does. It's not a field that's compatible with me as far as what I'm looking for in a career. Don't understand why that's always seen as the end game or the "dream job" especially when many students have to go in hundred of thousands of dollars worth of debt and don't really get to enjoy the fruits of their labor until much, much later if ever at all. Every field has its pros and cons. It's just a matter of what is the best fit for you. Not about a title or trying to impress people.
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Agreed. Part of the reason I chose public health is because it seems to allow for a solid work-life balance. I originally thought I wanted to go into medicine or academia but those careers often require a career-first attitude. I really want to be a father one day and I'd like to be able to spend as much time as possible with my family!
 
psepi39 said:
You’re not alone! 🙂 waiting in UCLA, NYU, USC and SDSU :/ we will hear something at least by the end of the month!
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same here 🙂 although i only applied to Ucla, Uci and Usc since I can't afford out-of-state schools... 🙁 i was a bit worried when some ppl in this thread got accepted at ucla. congrats to anyone who got accepted to the schools!
 
LiveTheMoment98 said:
Congratulations to everyone who got their acceptance letters for Columbia today!!! I'd love to connect if you are planning on attending. I was admitted last year for SMS with a certificate with Population Mental Health and deferred to fall 2021.
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Me!! I will be attending I'm 99.99% sure just need to build up the courage to submit
 
socreins said:
PhD - Clinical Medicine Research (Imperial College London), MPA (London School of Economics), MBA (University of Oxford), MSc in Software Engineering (University of Oxford), BA (University of Cambridge). Research scientist concentrating on digital health interventions.
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@socreins

Oh snap!!! Dumbledore ain't got nothing on you! :claps:
 
estherejlee said:
same here 🙂 although i only applied to Ucla, Uci and Usc since I can't afford out-of-state schools... 🙁 i was a bit worried when some ppl in this thread got accepted at ucla. congrats to anyone who got accepted to the schools!
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I was a bit worried too! However I have a friend who had gotten into the HPM department at UCLA in January and had a 1:1 meeting with faculty this last week and when she asked about when people might hear back from other departments they had mentioned that Epi is typically pretty slow with the admissions process and told her to tell us to not lose hope yet as acceptances are still rolling out! That’s the only thing that’s giving me hope. Unsure what your concentration is but I hope that helps.
 
psepi39 said:
I was a bit worried too! However I have a friend who had gotten into the HPM department at UCLA in January and had a 1:1 meeting with faculty this last week and when she asked about when people might hear back from other departments they had mentioned that Epi is typically pretty slow with the admissions process and told her to tell us to not lose hope yet as acceptances are still rolling out! That’s the only thing that’s giving me hope. Unsure what your concentration is but I hope that helps.
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my concentration is epi as well!! wow you have no idea how much your comment helped me! thanks for sharing the info! hopefully we get good news soon 🙂
 
djjxjs said:
In at Columbia, PopFam! No email, but status update on portal. There's a letter and I can actually accept or decline, so I hope not a glitch!
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Congrats!!! Am i seeing correctly that you applied 1/14? dang, that is the quickest turn around time for columbia I think I have seen on this forum!
 
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