MS1: supplements to learning

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NeuroLAX said:
Gunner alert.
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Actually I think (and have been told by M3/4s) that it's a waste. I'm just curious what his reasoning is.

Isn't M1 mostly about normal structure and function anyway?

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MedPR said:
Actually I think (and have been told by M3/4s) that it's a waste. I'm just curious what his reasoning is.

Isn't M1 mostly about normal structure and function anyway?

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More or less, but I would say it can also vary greatly by school. I don't really see it fitting in with my first year curriculum all that much. I'll definitely begin using it this summer though when I have intro to path.
 
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MedPR said:
You recommend paying for the pathoma subscription for 2 years? Why?
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We have a systems curriculum starting second semester of first year, and I wasn't thinking of more traditional curriculums. I don't see pathoma having much value first year in traditional programs, or at least not before starting path or systems.
 
So, as a soon-to-be 1st year, should I take this thread to mean that I should buy board review books instead of the actual texts books? Do most 1st years end up gearing their study for the boards? I've had current students at my school and other schools tell me that they never use the textbooks but get what they need for exams from he professors' lecture notes/outlines. In my undergrad experience, such notes are great for telling you what to study but don't necessarily contain the needed material. Is this where outside sources like board review books come in?
 
MedPR said:
Actually I think (and have been told by M3/4s) that it's a waste. I'm just curious what his reasoning is.

Isn't M1 mostly about normal structure and function anyway?

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MedPR Rip 🙁 (a sad day).
 
NurWollen said:
So, as a soon-to-be 1st year, should I take this thread to mean that I should buy board review books instead of the actual texts books? Do most 1st years end up gearing their study for the boards? I've had current students at my school and other schools tell me that they never use the textbooks but get what they need for exams from he professors' lecture notes/outlines. In my undergrad experience, such notes are great for telling you what to study but don't necessarily contain the needed material. Is this where outside sources like board review books come in?
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A curiosity we share. Though maybe this image

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indicates that the no text book thing is possible, i.e., that three notes are so extensive that, unlike UG, you can actually get what you need mostly from them. Big assumption on my part though..
 
Sorry for the double image.
 
Lysilegluleu said:
Yea, I know. I really wanted to see him hit 20k. I'm sure he's watching down on us (lurking) or has been reincarnated. 😀
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That kid couldn't lurk if his life depended on it...his head would explode from not being able to respond.

I'd guess reincarnated...Just keep an eye out for a new member who has ~5K posts by next week. :naughty:
 
Mr Kenobi said:
That kid couldn't lurk if his life depended on it...his head would explode from not being able to respond.

I'd guess reincarnated...Just keep an eye out for a new member who has ~5K posts by next week. :naughty:
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:meanie: :xf:
 
Mr Kenobi said:
That kid couldn't lurk if his life depended on it...his head would explode from not being able to respond.

I'd guess reincarnated...Just keep an eye out for a new member who has ~5K posts by next week. :naughty:
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How did he get banned?
 
corpsman33 said:
How did he get banned?
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NeuroLAX said:
Apparently for persistent derailment of threads.
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It's for his/her/their own good, although he/she/they might be getting crazy due to that. 😎

P.S.: I cannot believe it could be only one real user to have 20K posts in a year!.. I honestly still wanna think of it like that there's a number of people behind the MedPR username. Otherwise, I don't wanna believe that this person would become a physician one day for the hopes to treat patients, although he/she has some real psychological problems... 20K posts in less than a year man 😱!.. and most of them are straight out garbage or empty argumentation with everyone... Please, go get a life, for the name of God!
 
Kevin Baker said:
I highly recommend pathoma and think it's more useful than first aid for a MS1. Costanzo's physio book has been pretty good as well.
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I cannot read that without my mind immediately turning to Seinfeld..
 
NurWollen said:
So, as a soon-to-be 1st year, should I take this thread to mean that I should buy board review books instead of the actual texts books? Do most 1st years end up gearing their study for the boards? I've had current students at my school and other schools tell me that they never use the textbooks but get what they need for exams from he professors' lecture notes/outlines. In my undergrad experience, such notes are great for telling you what to study but don't necessarily contain the needed material. Is this where outside sources like board review books come in?
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1. Yes, the professor slides, professor lecture info, and a review book like RapidReview or BRS is all you will need for a topic (except maybe anatomy where you will need a big picture book too).

2. Maybe, it depends on what you mean by "boards". Most first year students study for their exams. Sometimes a school will use a national test like NMBE ("shelf") for a final, so if you call that a "board" then yes they cram for the boards before the final exam. Usually "boards" means the big exam at the end of year 2, and no, first year students can't study for that because they don't have the knowledge base yet.

The pattern in med school is for a professor to produce slides in PDF form, teach from the slides, and then test from the material delivered. At no point does the concept "textbook" enter into the system.
 
sazerac said:
1. Yes, the professor slides, professor lecture info, and a review book like RapidReview or BRS is all you will need for a topic (except maybe anatomy where you will need a big picture book too).

2. Maybe, it depends on what you mean by "boards". Most first year students study for their exams. Sometimes a school will use a national test like NMBE ("shelf") for a final, so if you call that a "board" then yes they cram for the boards before the final exam. Usually "boards" means the big exam at the end of year 2, and no, first year students can't study for that because they don't have the knowledge base yet.

The pattern in med school is for a professor to produce slides in PDF form, teach from the slides, and then test from the material delivered. At no point does the concept "textbook" enter into the system.
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Thanks. That is exactly what I wanted to know.
 
DrBumblebee said:
It's for his/her/their own good, although he/she/they might be getting crazy due to that. 😎

P.S.: I cannot believe it could be only one real user to have 20K posts in a year!.. I honestly still wanna think of it like that there's a number of people behind the MedPR username. Otherwise, I don't wanna believe that this person would become a physician one day for the hopes to treat patients, although he/she has some real psychological problems... 20K posts in less than a year man 😱!.. and most of them are straight out garbage or empty argumentation with everyone... Please, go get a life, for the name of God!
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I respectfully disagree. MedPR was perhaps one of the most misunderstood members of this forum. He didn't candy-coat statements or make unreasonable extrapolations. Instead, he often posted blunt yet helpful advice, and in return he received.... a boatload of hate.

A boatload of completely unfounded hate.

I'd venture that 9 times out of 10, whenever I stumbled upon a thread involving a heated debate between MedPR and other forum members, I would carefully read through the entire thread (something I'm very good at because I read extremely slowly) and find a common cause of all the commotion. It would usually look something like this:

1) MedPR states a fact/opinion
2) AnonUser misquotes MedPR or simply doesn't read his post at all (or, more probably, reads it but doesn't comprehend what point he's making), then makes an ignorant/dumb retort
3) MedPR calls out AnonUser for his unfounded retort and shows how s/he misunderstood what he was saying
4) AnonUser claims MedPR has an ego problem, doesn't have a life, or is simply a troll trying to incite trouble (or "anti-DO-ness")
5) Three pages of stupid, pointless debate occurs...

So yeah... go ahead and **** all over him, but it's honesty, careful data analysis, and blunt advice that this forum needs -- not more pre-med opinions stated as facts and candy-coating.

Well that's my 5 cents. Peace.
 
toxicwombat said:
I respectfully disagree. MedPR was perhaps one of the most misunderstood members of this forum. He didn't candy-coat statements or make unreasonable extrapolations. Instead, he often posted blunt yet helpful advice, and in return he received.... a boatload of hate.

A boatload of completely unfounded hate.

I'd venture that 9 times out of 10, whenever I stumbled upon a thread involving a heated debate between MedPR and other forum members, I would carefully read through the entire thread (something I'm very good at because I read extremely slowly) and find a common cause of all the commotion. It would usually look something like this:

1) MedPR states a fact/opinion
2) AnonUser misquotes MedPR or simply doesn't read his post at all (or, more probably, reads it but doesn't comprehend what point he's making), then makes an ignorant/dumb retort
3) MedPR calls out AnonUser for his unfounded retort and shows how s/he misunderstood what he was saying
4) AnonUser claims MedPR has an ego problem, doesn't have a life, or is simply a troll trying to incite trouble (or "anti-DO-ness")
5) Three pages of stupid, pointless debate occurs...

So yeah... go ahead and **** all over him, but it's honesty, careful data analysis, and blunt advice that this forum needs -- not more pre-med opinions stated as facts and candy-coating.

Well that's my 5 cents. Peace.
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That's not true, at all.

Actually, MedPR username's posts have been mostly useless and confrontational instead of being representation of facts/truth. They've been always condescending towards anyone, I mean anyone, including pre-meds, med students, and residents. Only a solid set of psychological problems could lead someone to behave/write in this style.. consistently. The true reason behind it isn't known, yet. Otherwise, about 20,000 posts in a year couldn't have been reached. 😱

That's also my 5 cents. Peace, brotha.
 
It's not always gonna be sunshine and rainbows in medicine. I guarantee you'll encounter multiple people whose personalities grind on you, whether they be patients, fellow students, residents, or attendings.

You can learn to deal with it, or you can just get mad.
 
DrBumblebee said:
That's not true, at all.

Actually, MedPR username's posts have been mostly useless and confrontational instead of being representation of facts/truth. They've been always condescending towards anyone, I mean anyone, including pre-meds, med students, and residents. Only a solid set of psychological problems could lead someone to behave/write in this style.. consistently. The true reason behind it isn't known, yet. Otherwise, about 20,000 posts in a year couldn't have been reached. 😱
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Whereas your posts have been pure quality.
 
I thought medpr's posts were fine. They weren't sugar-coated responses. He gave his honest opinion.
 
I think the number of posts regarding his ban are rivaling his late post count. 😀
 
toxicwombat said:
Whereas your posts have been pure quality.
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You can always ignore my posts like I did after a while to MedPR username. Below post is a good answer.

coolingglasses said:
It's not always gonna be sunshine and rainbows in medicine. I guarantee you'll encounter multiple people whose personalities grind on you, whether they be patients, fellow students, residents, or attendings.

You can learn to deal with it, or you can just get mad.
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What coolingglasses said is correct; even if personalities clash, you can still act professional toward colleagues. In regarding our own behavior, diplomacy can work wonders. As a mentor of mine once told me, "There is an art in being able to tell someone to go to hell, and have them be happy to be on their way." 😉
 
To my fellow broskis currently in Medical School:

Neuro. Hit me with the good stuff. My schools lectures aren't the best so I'm looking to supplement.
 
DrWily said:
To my fellow broskis currently in Medical School:

Neuro. Hit me with the good stuff. My schools lectures aren't the best so I'm looking to supplement.
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I recently discovered Dr. Najeeb's neuroanatomy videos. If you're going to watch them I would recommend starting well before any exam because his videos tend to be long for a given topic.

EDIT: also was made aware of this quick quiz site for neuroanatomy: http://www.pixelatedbrain.com/reviews/review_21/ rev_21a_home.htm
 
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wikipedia-the best med school in the world
 
Resurrection! Which is more effective for anatomy. Netters, which is composed of detailed drawings or Rohen's Color Atlas of Anatomy which is detailed photographs?

Thanks.
 
I think the color atlas is better for practicals, but it isn't detailed enough.
 
pdeco1 said:
Resurrection! Which is more effective for anatomy. Netters, which is composed of detailed drawings or Rohen's Color Atlas of Anatomy which is detailed photographs?

Thanks.
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Netters if you want the neat version and Rohen if you want the cold hard truth. I would say get both.
 
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