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I was just wondering how the majority of the people in here feel about those who put down multile deposits on different schools.

Although it is legal to do, i belive it is morally incorrect! plus it slows doen the process and frustrates others who are atill waiting.

what do others think?

comet
 
multiple deposits...? just pick one. give the other seat to someone who's less fortunate than you.
 
Because I am on alternate lists, multiple deposits also frustrate me. There are many out there who just want ONE acceptance and we are being held back because of multiple depositers.
All this waiting really sucks and worries me every single day!
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For those who have many options, please deposit only once.
I realize it is hard to make decisions so I understand why you put multiple deposits. However, please take into account that there are many people who just want admission into ONE school.
 
yeah i agree.. but i guess some people just can't decide..
I'm so tempted to make two deposits because i"m running out of time but i think it's just wasting $. HOefully, ill just make one deposit by next week.

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Jam,
Between what two schools are you having a tough time deciding? Maybe we can help.
 
thanks!! but i already started a thread about it earlier. It's between UF and Columbia. After reading what people wrote for me and emails from the dental students, i'm leaning towards UF but i'm just not sure..🙂 🙂 🙁
 
The only reason that is not so smart about holding multiple deposits is because it's a lot of money involve. If you can't make up your mind about your future, and don't know where you want to be in the next four year, what kind of dentist you want to become, it's kind of weird.
Just my 02 cents
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I just put down my deposit at the best dental school in the country: PENN.

NO multiple deposits for me, even though there was a time when I was debating it between NOVA and PENN, but I hope my nova and Temple seat really helps someone.

PENN is gonna be awesome, I wish I had a million dollars so I could throw a big party.

DesiDentist
 
Desi,
Penn is definitely the best of the east. It's an excellent choice. I would pick PENN over many other schools. Plus that cheesesteak, you'll have fun for 4 yrs. And endless of opportunities after graduation.
Tink
 
The only reason that I am contemplating putting down a second deposit is because I sincerely do not know which school is best for me. There are specific qualities about each school that I like. But unfortunately, I haven't been accepted to a school that has the complete package that I am looking for. So instead of making a hasty and inaccurate decision I am willing to shell out another $500-$1000, which will buy me more time for my decision making. I worked very hard to get here, as did everybody on this forum, and so I want to make sure that everything is right. I personally am not one to hold an extra spot just to be vindictive and to prevent others from reaching their goals. I don't think that that makes me any less of a hopeful dental profession, as tinkerbell stated in her post for those who can't make up their minds. For those on the waitlist I know what a stressful process it is - I was in that situation last year. Best of luck to you all!
 
Grad M.S and all those multiple depositers...

instead of putting down another deposit and still not being sure, use the same money and go visit the schools again... stay in town for extra days... go and walk around the town... see if that is where you really want to spend the next 4 yrs of your life at. i just did that with one school ... maybe you can again talk to the adcom.... this make you a lot happier than just putting money down.... it might save you some $too.. plus, you can come back with a refresh mind!!!!!


Comet
 
I totally agree with Comet. Go and put down one deposit then fly to the other location and see if you like it. If you do then you can hand in the money right there, if not you just got a vacation.

DesiDentist
 
Grad M.S.
You need to put the names down for the school and city.
Put down Positive things for each
Put down Negative things for each.

The school and city that has more positive (even only one) is the one you will pick for one deposit. Lucky you that you didn't like BU. It will be 2K.
I think all the school should raise their deposit, just to get students seriously think about what they do, and not changing their mind. I just feel bad for people who stand on water until the first week school starts. Have a heart for your future colleagues.


I met a guy at Temple and asked him about his application process, he told me that Mark called him in the first week of school start. But he is in the top 5% of his class right now. He is a total nice guy, and I would not do this to any unknown person after I left Temple.
one or two deposits doesn't mean anything to you. But if everyone is doing the same thing? And someone only needs one ticket.
When you take care of other people health, sometimes you have to make decision quick, with good judgement. You should practice doing all that for now.



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Here is my view on this topic and thread: it is a big joke.

I can place as many deposits as I wish to. If I've worked hard enough to garnish multiple acceptances, then I also reserve the right to accept spots at those schools, for whatever the case may be.

That certainly isn't the best financial option for most people, but there isn't anything disrespectful or immoral about it. Come on, give me a break!
 
ItsGavinC,

QUOTE]Here is my view on this topic and thread: it is a big joke.

I can place as many deposits as I wish to. If I've worked hard enough to garnish multiple acceptances, then I also reserve the right to accept spots at those schools, for whatever the case may be.

That certainly isn't the best financial option for most people, but there isn't anything disrespectful or immoral about it. Come on, give me a break![/QUOTE]


I got to say only one thing; I am sure that if you did not have any acceptance your view would have been 180 degree the other way. It is really weird when people cross the line they completely forget where were they before. For one second stand back and put yourself in shoes of someone that is waiting to get into the school of his/her first choice and some schmuck is holding the seat because he can't decide which school he wants to go to and has put down three deposits.

And yes I believe it is immoral and unethical and at the same time very selfish and stupid to put down multiple deposits. I bet you worked hard and so did everyone else, but maybe some got unlucky, some applied late or......

People on this forum have been great, caring, helpful and sympathetic with each other, and it is a delight to see this crowd as our future colleagues, I am just happy that most of the people on this forum and in this field do not share your views, and your are one of the minorities, but hey every one has the right to their views and I believe you are 100% right in your own way.
 
Tinker Bell -
I completely have a heart. If you personally knew me you wouldn't say that. So I don't think this is the forum for biased, personal attacks. By me putting down multiple deposits I am buying myself more time to go back and visit the schools so that I will make a more informed decision. Do I feel bad for holding somebody elses potential spot - Yes I do. Is that going to stop me from doing what I want to do - No. Although a pro and con list may work for you it does not necessarily work for other people. And being an older applicant I am not going to make a hasty decision that will most definitely affect the rest of my life. And realistically - I am not the only one who does this.
 
comet208 has a great idea. it doesn't matter what others say to multiple depositers... they'll deposit as many as they want and have the right to do that. (although i feel that depositing to multiple schools is a bit odd and have decision-maknig problems since you were given an ample time to think, think, think, think, and re-think about it) it's all good, you're right. you worked hard. and you have the right. but if you think that this is a joke, you're just being selfish and not considerate of others. i'm glad to see most of my future colleagues are considerate and willing to help.
 
what if you make a deposit at one school and you find out that the other school you were considering is better for you? There is still long time before the school starts in August.
For some people, ONE month is not a enuff time to make this kinda decision.

yeah, if you are planning to make like 3 or 4 deposits , then that's just ridiculous but i don't really see a big problem with making two deposits. For most schools, the classes are not even full yet so if you've been working hard, then you gonna get into the school that you want to go w/o getting waitlisted.
 
Conf88,

Thanks, I enjoyed your post. Why is a person who can't decide where to go to school a "schmuck", as you so kindly put it?

You also made quite the generalization by stating that most of the people on this forum and in this field do not share my views. A whopping 14 people have responded to this thread -- that hardly constitutes an overabundance of opinion. It certainly doesn't include anybody from our "field". I believe that practicing dentists wouldn't think for 20 seconds about this question before dismissing it as non-important. I also doubt my views are in the minority, and a thorough reading of my entire collection of over 900 posts and contributions to the forum would quite easily demonstrate that. When you have time, you may browse the "stats" page, one of the pages which I created and others updated in order to help upcoming applicants. This hardly constitutes a auora of hate or non-caring.
You mention putting myself in shoes of another. How do you know that those who pay multiple deposts aren't that other person of whom you are referring? Many people pay deposits simply because they are waiting to hear from their top choice -- waiting just like you are.

Put yourself in the shoes of a person who is having trouble deciding where to go. Weigh all of their life factors, and attempt to understand their point of view.

I still don't see why I should be called immoral just because I am seriously pondering a life-changing decision. It would only be immoral if it is done to purposely hinder other applicants. I state it again: I got the acceptances, and I can legally place the deposits. When a final decision is made, then all the schools I've placed deposits at should be notified right away.

By the way, although I am writing in the first-person, I have NOT placed multiple deposits, nor will I. My point is simply that to judge others via the number of deposits they have placed is quite the bigoted point of view. A decision such as this shouldn't be rushed.
 
Gavin,

First off, congrats on your 900+ posts. Right now you need just 98 more to join an elite group.

To quote a fragment of your last post ("I still don't see why I should be called immoral just because I am seriously pondering a life-changing decision"), I just wanted to say that you have been adamant in your stance that it doesn't matter where you go to school but how you do in the school. Therefore deciding between two schools is not a life-changing decision but rather a luxury decision. Life changing would be the field/speciality you choose, your possible study habits in school and so forth. Since you have always said it doesn't matter where you go, picking one school over another should be like picking Coke over Pepsi. You don't have the greatest of foundations in this regard.

I do agree with you in terms of labeling such a maneuver as immoral. It's a little inconsiderate.

Unfortunately you chose to speak out against thread and you got everyone's gripe. Looking back at my post maybe my stance is immoral and I should delete it, but then again I can take the heat too. No harm or insult intended Gavin.
 
Hello everyone,

I've been viewing this forum for about 8 months (great resource) and this is the first time I've felt compelled to post something.

Give gradM.S. and everyone who deposits to multiple schools some slack.

There's other situations that require some people to deposit money at multiple schools other than just indecision....who knows, maybe someone has to relocate a wife/husband and kids. Throws a kink in that pros/cons list doesn't it ? Not only do u have to worry about the quality of the dental school but maybe you got to look at a city's school district for your child....what if your spouse can't find a job in the city you're about to go to school to ? Another kink. So not everything is always black and white. EVERYONE's SITUATION is different and 45 days isn't enough.

I'm sorry if I offend anyone but Im just sticking up for some of the minority.

Good luck to everyone...I hope everyone in this forum waiting to hear from schools will receive good news soon.

Busta
 
ItsGavinC,

Gavin, my post was more b'cose of "how" you said it, not what you said .
We all know that there are situations that one can not decide, I for one have been in such a situation and it is not a pleasant one. One has to decide about the curiculum, tuition, city, family, life after dental school and etc and at times it is very very hard to decide when you have two equally good options in front of you. It is alway difficult to decide between "the good and the better".

But I strongly resend the "I got in, I deserved it, the hell with others" attitude. And unfortunately that is what I got from your post, and that was the only reason for my post, I am sure it was just a wrong choice of words and not your real intention.

I for one have done this before, have taken a place of someone else in a school that I was not sure of attending, but I never voiced it as my right to do so b'cose I was more fortunate. But more as an unfortunate situation that I could not decide what to do.

I also hope eveyone on this board does well and will receive good news soon.
 
Pasha,

Thanks for your comments. Choosing a school for me is not a luxury, regardless. It is still a life-changing decision because I have factors that are much more important to me than the quality of education I will receive. I have to look at housing costs, the job-market, the school systems in the area, etc.

I, and several others here, are in a different situation than many other applicants.
 
On Uniqueness

By: Dr. Sam Vaknin

Is being special or unique a property of an object (let us say, a human being), independent of the existence or the actions of observers - or is this a product of a common judgement of a group of people?

In the first case - every human being is "special", "one of a kind, sui generis, unique". This property of being unique is context-independent, a Ding am Sich. It is the derivative of a unique assembly with a one-of-its-kind list of specifications, personal history, character, social network, etc. Indeed, no two individuals are identical. The question in the narcissist's mind is where does this difference turn into uniqueness? In other words, there are numerous characteristics and traits common to two specimen of the same species. On the other hand, there are characteristics and traits, which set them apart. There must exist a quantitative point where it would be safe to say that the difference outweighs the similarity, the "Point of Uniqueness", wherein individuals are rendered unique.

But, as opposed to members of other species, differences between humans (personal history, personality, memories, biography) so outweigh similarities - that we can safely postulate, prima facie, that all human beings are unique.
 
Just a little insight into TX schools - they begin sharing their acceptance lists with other TX schools next month. At that point, they will begin calling those ppl and ask them to make up their mind. I am sure that other schools will have a similar policy.

cheers & best of luck to everyone.
 
djsux,

I do not believe the other schools possess a certain type of scheme. Even though it is a good idea. I know if Med school apps you cannot have a deposit or hand on more than one school. If you accept school X and then later accept school Y then X will be dropped automatically for you.

DesiDentist
 
no double deposits for CA schools.
 
also, if ucsf sees that a student already go to uop, they will not offer a seat for that student.
they will make up your mind for you if they find out you put 2 deposits at the same time just by simply deleting your name
how cheerful is that?
 
Tinker Bell,

How will UCSF find out? That really sucks. Some people may have put a deposit down to secure a spot somewhere even though they are still hoping for an interview at their top choice.

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Not only UCSF will find out, but all 5 dental schools in CA will find out that you have 2 deposits. You can put down deposit at one school until you hear from another school. Then you can put down deposit at the other but have to cancel your second choice.
For example, you already put down deposit at usc, and ucla decides to accept you in may, you have a while to answer them, then you can put deposit at ucla, but have to immedicately cancel your spot at usc. If they see that you have 2 spots, they will notify and give you 2 weeks to make up your mind. After 2 weeks without action, they will delete your name. The bad thing is 2 schools may delete you at the same time, not only one.

5 CA dental schools came to this agreement many years ago, and it has always worked out really well for them. They said that they use this to protect them from lots of problems at the end of the admissions cycle and prevent people who wants to play the financial aid game. I remember the dean told me that don't ever use multiple deposits to get scholarship, because it's not gonna work and they hate it.
 
I would like to make it clear about the UCSF and UOP thing:
Since UOP starts early, while UCSF still accepts their waiting list applicant, UCSF makes it clear is that if a candidate who is on their waiting list is already attending UOP at the time, UCSF will skip that candidate and call the next candidate on the waiting list.

T
 
Well, I do not agree with the saying that Cali schools or for that matter any other school can tell that you have put down multiple deposits.
And I know this as the fact. A friend of mine two years ago did put down two deposits, and for two schools that are so close to each other geographically, USC and UCLA. and it took him three weeks before deciding which one to go to, and the only reason that he finally decided on one was b'cose he his financial aid application deadline for USC was due , otherwise they never came after him. And I remeber this clearly b'cose the poor guy was really confused what to do.
I personally look down on putting down multiple deposits but schools do not share a database that they would know who is in and who is not in.
 
Do not take any of my words for this. I didn't invent this myself. Call or write to every admissions dean of all CA schools and ask. I wasn't told by only one school about this, I was told by both UCSF and UCLA.
Your friend might got lucky. Because sometimes they don't have time to scan their data every single day. But when bad day comes, they do get caught

Tinker Bell
 
Personally I don't care if people hold multiple acceptances. As a late applicant I can't wait until May 1 to hear from schools that might not have otherwise considered me due to a late application.
 
wow, its been so long that i forgot having started such tread! i still stand by my point though.

Comet
 
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