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MCATTT said:
Thanks hunter.

The school give me a total of 47k including 2500 perkin loan. Makes me wonder if I should take all of it or take only the amount that I need now because my parents are contributing 5-10 k a year.
In addition, the tuition is not this high yet (although eventually it might catch up).
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Are you going to live with parents or on your own? I did not get financial aid award yet but I applied for gradPlus and Federal Stafford Loans I am trying to guess what I am going to get...
 
Taty said:
Are you going to live with parents or on your own? I did not get financial aid award yet but I applied for gradPlus and Federal Stafford Loans I am trying to guess what I am going to get...
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I will be living with parents.( 🙁 or 🙂 ) ....🙄
The award comes in two days ago. It doesn't have any info on Gradplus yet.
 
I got some kind of NYCOM grant that's just under $500. Is this TAP or something else? But nothing on my package said TAP, all I got were Stafford loans, unsub. and subsidized. I didn't request the max though, I got a bit more than I requested though.
 
I was wondering, does anyone know when to apply for gradplus loan? In the financial aid applications i only applied for stafford. Not sure how much to ask for considering I dont know how much NYCOM tuition is nor do i know what my living expenses are going to be since i didnt find an apartment yet. Is it possible to apply for gradplus any time during the year? If so, how long will it take for them to disburse the money?
 
mkopp1985 said:
I was wondering, does anyone know when to apply for gradplus loan? In the financial aid applications i only applied for stafford. Not sure how much to ask for considering I dont know how much NYCOM tuition is nor do i know what my living expenses are going to be since i didnt find an apartment yet. Is it possible to apply for gradplus any time during the year? If so, how long will it take for them to disburse the money?
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I am wondering the same thing. I checked maximum on applications for both loans.
 
Yeah I had the same question so I called up a few days ago. I was told that they're still working on the costs and once they figure it out they'll tell us the maximum. Also was told not to worry about the gradplus since we have the entire year to request it.
 
I'm not sure about Gradplus, but in terms of how much to take, it depends on a bunch of factors.

If you're living at home and your parents are contributing 5-10k a year, add about 2 grand to the tuition (for books) and subtract 5-10k from the total, that's all you should ask for assuming your parents are going to pay for things like food and gas for you, if not, you should probably just take the maximum.

If you're doing it all on your own and living by yourself you'll probably need gradplus since you only get about 5k from the NYCOM refund and you'll use a lot of that on books/gas money.

If you're married and your spouse supports you, you can probably get by on taking the full amount but you may need to takeout gradplus depending on your situation. Also, one thing to keep in mind...

Personally I'm not a big fan of gradplus because we're already taking out tons and tons of money...it feels like every dollar you take out you'll have to pay back 1.5 times that much. This is how banks make money...so if you take out grad plus full amount for 4 years that's another 150 grand to pay back...

as is, taking out the full tuition, you'll probably be paying about 2200 bucks a month for 10 years to pay back the loan. Figure you make 50 grand a year in residency (that's being generous), you'll only have about 1200 bucks a month to live off of (rent, food, gas, everything) after the loan payments. If you take out full grad plus as well you'll be paying 3300 a month in loan payments which will leave you with about 200 bucks a month to live off of after taxes and everything...

I don't think NYCOM does a good job of explaining this to everyone...if you're making $150 grand a year (after residency), paying 3300 bucks a month is feasible, so after residency you should be in good shape, on the other hand, you may have to take out more loans in residency just to pay off the NYCOM loans.

Anyway, I'm just venting thinking about all the money since if the government wants to socialize medicine the first thing they should do is subsidize medical school costs. Doctors need to make money now simply to pay off their loans from school.

So yea, I'm just venting but while it's nice to be able to take out all of this money you really need to keep in mind the ramifications of paying it all back. I would suggest not taking out gradplus if that's feasible, but on the other hand, you may need it to live off of at the moment and you'll just have to suck it up eventually.

Ok, done venting...good luck everyone.
 
whats up guys? Congrats on getting in to school. My name is mike and Im first year at nycom, going to be a second year soon. I am currently living in a house in Westbury with 2 other first years and a second year. The second year is moving out this year (b/c he has rotations in binghamton next year) so we need 1 roommate for next year. I live with two girls so preferably a guy roommate... but another girl would be ok. So here is the deal; we have a 4 bedroom/ 2 bathroom , living room, kitchen, small dining room, laundry machines in the basement, one family house, front yard backyard patio, driveway, and super easy on street parking on a nice street with very low traffic. The drive to school is 10-20min depending on traffic (usually much closer to 10 min). we are like 1 mile from old country road, and all the big malls. The rent is currently 560 per month + utilities (the highest are utilities have ever been including our wireless internet is 100 dollars in the winter) . The rent may go up 10 dollars to 570 this year. this is a great place. email me at [email protected] if you are interested so you can stop by to see it starting in may, lease for 1 year, july to july we have a test Monday so the earliest you can check in out is may 1 drop me a line

ps-- party like its 1999 this summer, do not study, and if you are working, stop august first to just relax before school. Congrats for getting in guys!
 
I just got the letter about vaccinations, but still nothing regarding orientation. Would anyone mind posting which office sent it out so I can contact them and make sure I am not missing anything.
Thanks
 
docem said:
I just got the letter about vaccinations, but still nothing regarding orientation. Would anyone mind posting which office sent it out so I can contact them and make sure I am not missing anything.
Thanks
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I got vaccination too,no orientation materials.
 
It is the office of student life. The number is 516 686 3787. The letter says orientation is August 20, 8:00 am. There is also a web board pm me if you want that info.
 
Is Anyone who got accepted to NYCOM giving up their seat?

Did you pay the deposit and still not attending?

I am asking this because NYCOM is my top choice and my only choice and I have been on the wait list since mid Feb, 2007. Now they said they finished interviewing and waiting to see if any spots will open up...

Please let me know if anyone is rejecting their seat or giving up their deposit.
It is a hell to be on waiting list...
 
So far, all I've gotten is a letter with the password for the webboard and it said that orientation is Aug 20, or whatever day it is. No other details. Then, I got my financial aid info, and then I just recently got my vaccination papers.

Gotta go back to my pediatrician because I haven't had a regular doctor since my pediatrician.
 
Mike2010 said:
whats up guys? Congrats on getting in to school. My name is mike and Im first year at nycom, going to be a second year soon. I am currently living in a house in Westbury with 2 other first years and a second year. The second year is moving out this year (b/c he has rotations in binghamton next year) so we need 1 roommate for next year. I live with two girls so preferably a guy roommate... but another girl would be ok. So here is the deal; we have a 4 bedroom/ 2 bathroom , living room, kitchen, small dining room, laundry machines in the basement, one family house, front yard backyard patio, driveway, and super easy on street parking on a nice street with very low traffic. The drive to school is 10-20min depending on traffic (usually much closer to 10 min). we are like 1 mile from old country road, and all the big malls. The rent is currently 560 per month + utilities (the highest are utilities have ever been including our wireless internet is 100 dollars in the winter) . The rent may go up 10 dollars to 570 this year. this is a great place. email me at [email protected] if you are interested so you can stop by to see it starting in may, lease for 1 year, july to july we have a test Monday so the earliest you can check in out is may 1 drop me a line

ps-- party like its 1999 this summer, do not study, and if you are working, stop august first to just relax before school. Congrats for getting in guys!
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Mike forgot to mention that he and his roommates are the sexiest medical students at nycom...i'd totally live with them if my mom wasn't an amazing cook!
 
Last year orientation was one day. We were introduced to the administration and faculty, some older students answered some questions, I think there was a fin aid spiel, we got our IDs, Parking, and mailboxes, and we got that speech you see on tv that goes something like "congratulation on your acceptence into medical school...today is the first day of the next, and argueably most difficult, chapter of your lives, carpe diem, study your asses off but be sure to take time for your personal lives aswell." Then there was a big group hug and that was that.

Classes started the next day at 8am and went until 5 o'clock. The friday of that week there was a 'big brother big sister bbq' where every first year got paired up with a second year and they sat around and showed the newbies the ropes.
 
Question about $$ and manging life at NYCOM:

Do you guys think its managable to attend NYCOM while my wife is starting PA school? I mean we have to both take loans to pay for our school and living expenses, no parents $$. Is it doable?
Probably no kids for 2 years I guess...

do you know anyone who has done it in med school?
 
Well, a lot of it has to do with how much you have in the bank to live off of and how much you're willing to be in debt when you graduate. It definitely would help if one of you worked because you wouldn't have to worry about grad plus...

If you're not planning on having kids until at least one of you graduates it's definitely doable but realize you're going to be in a ton of debt if you need to take out the max amount of grad plus each year (48,000) which is probably about what 2 of you will need to live moderately on Long Island...(you might be able to scrape by only taking out around 30,000 but that would involve living pretty meager). I'm not sure what PA school costs, but if it's about the same as NYCOM and you both take out max loans AND max grad plus you're talking about the fact that you'll be over 400,000 dollars in debt when you graduate...that's a lot of money .

It's definitely doable, just understand what you'll be getting yourself into. If you both want it badly enough though, don't let it hold you back because you'll always regret not doing it...Good luck.
 
Doctorman said:
Question about $$ and manging life at NYCOM:

Do you guys think its managable to attend NYCOM while my wife is starting PA school? I mean we have to both take loans to pay for our school and living expenses, no parents $$. Is it doable?
Probably no kids for 2 years I guess...

do you know anyone who has done it in med school?
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It is doable. As gobiggreen says realize you will have a lot loans. Although it is possible to work a little while in school you should try to plan things as if you were not going to work just to be safe.

I definitely would rather go into debt than decide which spouse will go to school while the other one works unless the plan is to stagger entrance into grad school by a year.

:luck:
 
gobiggreen said:
Well, a lot of it has to do with how much you have in the bank to live off of and how much you're willing to be in debt when you graduate. It definitely would help if one of you worked because you wouldn't have to worry about grad plus...

If you're not planning on having kids until at least one of you graduates it's definitely doable but realize you're going to be in a ton of debt if you need to take out the max amount of grad plus each year (48,000) which is probably about what 2 of you will need to live moderately on Long Island...(you might be able to scrape by only taking out around 30,000 but that would involve living pretty meager). I'm not sure what PA school costs, but if it's about the same as NYCOM and you both take out max loans AND max grad plus you're talking about the fact that you'll be over 400,000 dollars in debt when you graduate...that's a lot of money .

It's definitely doable, just understand what you'll be getting yourself into. If you both want it badly enough though, don't let it hold you back because you'll always regret not doing it...Good luck.
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Yeah to live in long Island you will need at least at least 30,000$ per year and that is not a good life. So I guess it will come to 40000$ for living each year *4= 160,000$ and then school cost of 40K a year Hopefully medicaid will cover the health insurance. 40K * 4 =160K
Then PA school of 17K per year * 2.5= 43K
Total of 160K + 160K + 43K = 363k +(20k Premed loans)

So around 385k loan and we can start paying it when my wife finishes the PA school and have a baby that is around 3 years. And when I start residency in 4 years. but soon after both of us will make good money and we will be doing what we love so I think that will make it worth it.

How much per month we will paying for all these loans usually?
Probably for at least a good 10 years we will paying loans right?


The baby is not about money.. It is about the fact that we are both in school and the baby will never get to see us so what is the point of having a baby during the first 2 year.. Right?


Sorry I was thinking out loud but it really helps to know that you can manage it even though it looks very very bad.
 
approximately $4,407 a month for 10 years...(approximately $53,000 a year)

I just used a loan calculator with a 6.8% interest rate? I think the interest rates for the stafford may be higher than this for the unsubsidized...subsidized might be lower?

I think you can declare economic hardship while you're in residency if the loan repayments cause you to live below the poverty line and they give you a deferment on payment, but I'm really not all too sure how that works and if you incur even larger penalties because of it.

You should probably call a financial aid officer at NYCOM and ask to come in and sit down with them though.
 
I guess I will do that.

in the long term it really pays off though in the 5th year of school I make 50k and my wife makes another 50 or more. No pain no gain!

now I want to be accepted in to NYCOM already. Back to Pre-DO and hanging in waiting list. bye for now.
 
My understaning is that all loans including private loans can usually be deferred while you are in residency as long as you start within a certain period after your graduation from medical school without a penalty. The down side is that you have another 4 years of interest acumulating on your loan.

I understand your opinion that extra loans are a lot to take on, but for me and I assume many others who have been living independantly for a while the only way to do it is through taking the maximum loans. My parents live in another state and even though I live with my bf, there is no way he can support us in this area with just his salary. Medical school is expensive. NYCOM is expensive, but so are the majority of schools (MD and DO) unless you attend a state school. The way that I look at it is that it will be a lot of debt, but worth it, and there are ways to pay it down...loan repayment etc.

gobiggreen said:
approximately $4,407 a month for 10 years...(approximately $53,000 a year)

I just used a loan calculator with a 6.8% interest rate? I think the interest rates for the stafford may be higher than this for the unsubsidized...subsidized might be lower?

I think you can declare economic hardship while you're in residency if the loan repayments cause you to live below the poverty line and they give you a deferment on payment, but I'm really not all too sure how that works and if you incur even larger penalties because of it.

You should probably call a financial aid officer at NYCOM and ask to come in and sit down with them though.
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My understaning is that all loans including private loans can usually be deferred while you are in residency as long as you start within a certain period after your graduation from medical school without a penalty. The down side is that you have another 4 years of interest acumulating on your loan.

I understand your opinion that extra loans are a lot to take on, but for me and I assume many others who have been living independantly for a while the only way to do it is through taking the maximum loans. My parents live in another state and even though I live with my bf, there is no way he can support us in this area with just his salary. Medical school is expensive. NYCOM is expensive, but so are the majority of schools (MD and DO) unless you attend a state school. The way that I look at it is that it will be a lot of debt, but worth it, and there are ways to pay it down...loan repayment etc.

gobiggreen said:
approximately $4,407 a month for 10 years...(approximately $53,000 a year)

I just used a loan calculator with a 6.8% interest rate? I think the interest rates for the stafford may be higher than this for the unsubsidized...subsidized might be lower?

I think you can declare economic hardship while you're in residency if the loan repayments cause you to live below the poverty line and they give you a deferment on payment, but I'm really not all too sure how that works and if you incur even larger penalties because of it.

You should probably call a financial aid officer at NYCOM and ask to come in and sit down with them though.
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Just throwing out a couple of other options for you guys:

(Assuming you don't want a military scholarship. Personally, I don't think you can put any sort of money on risking your life.)

1. NHSC- National Health Services Corps- If you know you want to do primary care (OB/GYN, Family Med, Peds, Internal Medicince are your options) you can apply for this. It's somewhat competitive but they pay your entire tuition including books and I think health insurance in addition to giving you about $1200 a month. It's too late to apply for next year but it can give you 3 cheap years... What you have to do though is work year for year after residency in an underserved area...they let you usually choose, it's likely to be either inner-city somewhere or rural. So if you take it for 3 years, after residency you'll have to work in the underserved area for a few years.

2. Do a NYCOM fellowship...they'll cover your tuition for the last 3 years (really the last years because you've already paid 2). It adds an extra year to medical school but you get the tuition for it for free. It may even allow for some time to get a job in between because you'll have a lighter hospital load.
 
Gobiggreen are you a fellow? Or do you have more info about it. I remember meeting some OMM fellows on my interview tour. What do you have to do as a fellow, how does it look on your resume, do you only teach the labs? Any info would be helpful
 
gobiggreen said:
Just throwing out a couple of other options for you guys:

(Assuming you don't want a military scholarship. Personally, I don't think you can put any sort of money on risking your life.)

1. NHSC- National Health Services Corps- If you know you want to do primary care (OB/GYN, Family Med, Peds, Internal Medicince are your options) you can apply for this. It's somewhat competitive but they pay your entire tuition including books and I think health insurance in addition to giving you about $1200 a month. It's too late to apply for next year but it can give you 3 cheap years... What you have to do though is work year for year after residency in an underserved area...they let you usually choose, it's likely to be either inner-city somewhere or rural. So if you take it for 3 years, after residency you'll have to work in the underserved area for a few years.

2. Do a NYCOM fellowship...they'll cover your tuition for the last 3 years (really the last years because you've already paid 2). It adds an extra year to medical school but you get the tuition for it for free. It may even allow for some time to get a job in between because you'll have a lighter hospital load.
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Yea, my interviewer told me about it. He told me fellowship looks good on CV and he also told me that it is madly competitive....
 
Do you get a stipend or salary as a fellow, or just free tuition?
 
I'm a first year, not a fellow. I've thought about doing a fellowship but I just don't think it's the right thing for me. When it comes down to I'm just not ready to do an extra year of school.

That said, I think fellows may get up to $5,000 a year as a stipend but I'm not sure that's given to all fellows. You do get tuition paid for during all your clinical years meaning you'll only be responsible for 80 grand. It takes 5 years to graduate, not 4 if you do the fellowship.

I would imagine it looks good on a CV, but a lot of it probably has more to do with whether you were published than just doing a fellowship. If you contribute to an important paper I would imagine it would help your residency a lot. To be honest, I'm not sure being an OMM fellow will help you all that much, especially if you're looking for an allopathic residency.

If you really want to go into academic medicine doing the fellowship is important for you. I'm not sure how competitive it is to get because I'm not sure how many people apply for it. There are probably about 30 total fellows this year (about 10%). I can't imagine more than about 60 people applying for it so I don't think it's too tough and I'm not sure what the criteria is. You might want to contact Dr. Elkowitz via e-mail (or call him since he prefers that over e-mail). I think he's in charge of the whole program, at the very least he's in charge of the medicine fellowship which is probably the most prestigious one. He's a great guy and would definitely love to help answer all your questions.
 
Doctorman said:
Question about $$ and manging life at NYCOM:

Do you guys think its managable to attend NYCOM while my wife is starting PA school? I mean we have to both take loans to pay for our school and living expenses, no parents $$. Is it doable?
Probably no kids for 2 years I guess...

do you know anyone who has done it in med school?
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My wife and I both graduated from NYCOM last year. We both had to take out loans including private loans to live off of for all 4 years. No parent help. It can be done, but it's very expensive. We actually had our son during 4th year of med school. This made things even more difficult, but again, it can be done. If you can wait for the children until you are at least making a resident salary, I would recommend this. Please feel free to PM me if you have more specific questions. Good Luck!

DOnut
 
Thank you all for the help. we just got in to a bad car accident on the way back home so my mind is not working very well, but thanks god we are alive.


What is a fellow ship exactly?

I will PM you Donut later once I relax a bit.
 
Doctorman said:
Thank you all for the help. we just got in to a bad car accident on the way back home so my mind is not working very well, but thanks god we are alive.


What is a fellow ship exactly?

I will PM you Donut later once I relax a bit.
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Are you OK???
 
Taty said:
Are you OK???
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I am okay. All my body is sore. I feel like I was hit by a car lol 😉 .
Man you never think these things will happen to YOU.
It is not always your fault no matter how careful you are. My wife got splints on her ankle and crutches but no broken bone. We will see how the ligaments are holding when the swelling goes down.

Ahh I really love becoming a doctor. The emergency room reminded me of the ER Trauma OR that I use to work at. The doctor was so cool lol.

Again THANKs G-D! It could have been worse.

Sorry this was not related to NYCOM 2011 class but I can not wait to be part of you guys. Pray for me to get off that wait list.
 
Doctorman said:
I am okay. All my body is sore. I feel like I was hit by a car lol 😉 .
Man you never think these things will happen to YOU.
It is not always your fault no matter how careful you are. My wife got splints on her ankle and crutches but no broken bone. We will see how the ligaments are holding when the swelling goes down.

Ahh I really love becoming a doctor. The emergency room reminded me of the ER Trauma OR that I use to work at. The doctor was so cool lol.

Again THANKs G-D! It could have been worse.

Sorry this was not related to NYCOM 2011 class but I can not wait to be part of you guys. Pray for me to get off that wait list.
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I hope you guys get well soon🙂

I also hope to see u in my class🙂 I am sure I will!!!
 
Does anybody can recommend me good biochemistry book...like really for dummies..I CANT GET IT...I never could 🙁

Like biochem using simple language for the "first grade kids"...I have a book which I think somebody from the calss 2010 recommended me awhile ago,but I think I need to start from the basics...from real basics....
 
I can't really recommend a good biochem book because I don't really study it for 2 reasons:

1. It was my major in college.

2. (the important reason relevant to you) There is hardly any biochem on our exams. I don't think I've ever seen more than 5 biochem questions on a test yet . I think it's supposed to be big on the boards but if you struggle with biochem I wouldn't worry about next year.


A fellowship in medical school is when you work for the school doing research. It extends your education because you do 2 clinical years over 3 but you have more time to study for step 2 of the boards and you get to work on research so it's not as strenuous.
 
Taty said:
Does anybody can recommend me good biochemistry book...like really for dummies..I CANT GET IT...I never could 🙁

Like biochem using simple language for the "first grade kids"...I have a book which I think somebody from the calss 2010 recommended me awhile ago,but I think I need to start from the basics...from real basics....
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We're doing a lot of biochem (metabolism mainly) in DPC right now and a book I can highly recommend is Lehninger's Principles of Biochemistry. Very in depth, but I like depth. A pirated copy is floating around somewhere on the net I think... I also have the review book, Lippincott's Biochem, which is amazing for illustrations.
Hope that helps!
 
Hi guys, does anyone happen to know when financial aid forms are due back to nycom. Thanks.
 
physician24 said:
Hi guys, does anyone happen to know when financial aid forms are due back to nycom. Thanks.
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I think May 1st or month after the acceptance notice.
 
nvshelat said:
We're doing a lot of biochem (metabolism mainly) in DPC right now and a book I can highly recommend is Lehninger's Principles of Biochemistry. Very in depth, but I like depth. A pirated copy is floating around somewhere on the net I think... I also have the review book, Lippincott's Biochem, which is amazing for illustrations.
Hope that helps!
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Thank you🙂 I also applied to DPC program...just waiting...when did you get notified about DPC acceptance? I got a letter that they did not look on applications yet.
 
Taty said:
Does anybody can recommend me good biochemistry book...like really for dummies..I CANT GET IT...I never could 🙁

Like biochem using simple language for the "first grade kids"...I have a book which I think somebody from the calss 2010 recommended me awhile ago,but I think I need to start from the basics...from real basics....
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I had this book for my undergrad biochem book and really liked it. I aced the test just by reading this book. You can get fifth edition for much cheaper price. They are essentially the same.
http://www.amazon.com/Biochemistry-...3937644?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1177942493&sr=8-1
 
Taty said:
Does anybody can recommend me good biochemistry book...like really for dummies..I CANT GET IT...I never could 🙁

Like biochem using simple language for the "first grade kids"...I have a book which I think somebody from the calss 2010 recommended me awhile ago,but I think I need to start from the basics...from real basics....
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Oh, Taty, I think we'll be wonderful friends! 😀 I JUST bought some biochem books b/c I have the same concerns you do. I bought Schaum's Outline of Biochem. There is also Schaum's EASY Outline, and, believe it or not, Biochem for Dummies! I may have bought the Easy outline as well, I forget! I went with Schaum's b/c those outlines are solely academic, while Dummies covers a lot of topics outside the academic realm. Not sure which is better really, but hopefully one will help. I also bought the Schaum's for A&P b/c I was not a science major in college and I think I can use the head start this summer! Good luck!
 
Taty said:
Does anybody can recommend me good biochemistry book...like really for dummies..I CANT GET IT...I never could 🙁

Like biochem using simple language for the "first grade kids"...I have a book which I think somebody from the calss 2010 recommended me awhile ago,but I think I need to start from the basics...from real basics....
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Hello Taty,
I took Biochem twice. Once as an undergrad (6 years ago) and again last semester. My job pays for any course I take - thought it would be a great refresher before starting med school, especially if its free!!! I have both books and they compliment each other quite well. The book I used last year is called Biochemistry by Berg. The book is very very very thorough and fairly easy to read. It does not use "first grade language" but it explains terms that you'll see later on quite well. I also have all the lectures on powerpoint if you're interested. The book for my undergrad Biochem course is less thorough but it teaches you the BASICS! Uses ton of pictures so you can follow reactions step by step.

The book (by Berg) is a bit expensive but worth it.

Ciao
 
For biochem I am a fan of Lippincott's biochem. Although my undergrad degree is in biochem I feel this book is written in an easy to read style that suits what you are looking for. In undergrad I looked over this book in the library and read a chapter and found it very easy to read. My suggestion is for you to look at it in the library between now and the 2nd week of school. read 1 chapter (most are short). see how you like it. Many med school books resell at a 80% of the original price especially the more popular texts like this one. Don't be afraid to buy that extra book now and just resell it when the system is over or you found a better text. I have been through many pharm books searching for the holy grail.

A 4th edition comes out in july but this 3rd edition is available now. If you are not certain this is the book for you then wait for the 4th edition which will be easier to resell or go to barnes and noble or your library to read a chapter. check out the other books as well.

http://www.amazon.com/Lippincotts-I...6241750?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1177959515&sr=1-2

Mark's Essentials is a much easier read and is where we are getting biochem assigned readings in lecture based learning this year. This book seems to be very "light" reading for med school biochem. Perhaps you will want to look at this first and relax a little.

http://www.amazon.com/Marks-Essenti...6241750?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1177960337&sr=1-1
 
There are other subjects to worry about like pharm. So far we are getting spoon fed biochem. Perhaps this will change in the GI system. if you feel compelled to read don't go beyond the intro part dealing with amino acids, enzymes, etc.



gobiggreen said:
I can't really recommend a good biochem book because I don't really study it for 2 reasons:

1. It was my major in college.

2. (the important reason relevant to you) There is hardly any biochem on our exams. I don't think I've ever seen more than 5 biochem questions on a test yet . I think it's supposed to be big on the boards but if you struggle with biochem I wouldn't worry about next year.


A fellowship in medical school is when you work for the school doing research. It extends your education because you do 2 clinical years over 3 but you have more time to study for step 2 of the boards and you get to work on research so it's not as strenuous.
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joferreri said:
Oh, Taty, I think we'll be wonderful friends! 😀 I JUST bought some biochem books b/c I have the same concerns you do. I bought Schaum's Outline of Biochem. There is also Schaum's EASY Outline, and, believe it or not, Biochem for Dummies! I may have bought the Easy outline as well, I forget! I went with Schaum's b/c those outlines are solely academic, while Dummies covers a lot of topics outside the academic realm. Not sure which is better really, but hopefully one will help. I also bought the Schaum's for A&P b/c I was not a science major in college and I think I can use the head start this summer! Good luck!
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Now I feel better...I am not alone fighting that biochem!!!

THANK YOU EVERYONE !!! I'll check out every book recommended here.

It looks that I'll need to take both COMLEX and USMLE, and as far as I know and read here on SDN... USMLE is heavy on biochem I would rather try to understand it now since biochem is a big weakness of mine ...
 
Hey guys...i will also be coming to nycom next year. i have been on this site for a few times just to check some stuff out but never had a membership. im from queens and im commuting next year. do we have a lot of queens kids in the 2011 class.
 
Hi guys, so I guess the Russians are really taking over this year because I'm another one to add on to the list. Just wanted to say hello and ask about the Authorization Statement in the Financial Aid packet...what are these "other charges" they speak of???
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