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I’d fear for my life in Bakersfield and Fresno

 

[nimbus]

I’d fear for my life in Bakersfield and Fresno

Lived in Bakersfield for 1 year in the late 1990s, not my cup of tea but I never felt unsafe there.

Friend of mine moved to Fresno because his wife is part of a large extended Sikh family there. He is very happy and is making a killing.

 

[anonperson]

very true. No point to live in IE or Fresno and pay CA taxes. AZ and NV stand out better.

IE catching a lot of heat.

Chino hills is usually ranked highly on best places to live. Great place to raise a family.

 

[GaseousClay]

kaiser locums paying $400-500/hr across so cal probably the best gig anywhere right now if you land one in San Diego or west LA

 

[Coffee PRN]

kaiser locums paying $400-500/hr across so cal probably the best gig anywhere right now if you land one in San Diego or west LA

Wow, what agencies?

 

[pgg]

Lived in Bakersfield for 1 year in the late 1990s, not my cup of tea but I never felt unsafe there.

Friend of mine moved to Fresno because his wife is part of a large extended Sikh family there. He is very happy and is making a killing.

The problem with the entirety of the central valley is that the weather is absolute ****. You're paying the so-called "paradise tax" to live in California, but the climate is horrendous.

It's boiling hot and dry for months in the summer, eternal drought, and consistently has several of the top 5 worst air quality cities in the nation. Might as well pick a spot in New Mexico or west Texas.

The best thing that can be said about the climate is that you're only a couple hours from the coast, and a couple hours from the mountains.

 

[GassYous]

The problem with the entirety of the central valley is that the weather is absolute ****. You're paying the so-called "paradise tax" to live in California, but the climate is horrendous.

It's boiling hot and dry for months in the summer, eternal drought, and consistently has several of the top 5 worst air quality cities in the nation. Might as well pick a spot in New Mexico or west Texas.

The best thing that can be said about the climate is that you're only a couple hours from the coast, and a couple hours from the mountains.

I mean with airplanes you're always only a couple of hours from the coast or mountains

 

[Davidfromcali]

The problem with the entirety of the central valley is that the weather is absolute ****. You're paying the so-called "paradise tax" to live in California, but the climate is horrendous.

It's boiling hot and dry for months in the summer, eternal drought, and consistently has several of the top 5 worst air quality cities in the nation. Might as well pick a spot in New Mexico or west Texas.

The best thing that can be said about the climate is that you're only a couple hours from the coast, and a couple hours from the mountains.

People from the area like to spin the 3 hr drive to LA or SF as a benefit but that trip gets old real fast to a point that anyone rarely does it. If you’re into lakes and the national park nearby than I can start to see the appeal of living there….sort of

 

[sloh]

People from the area like to spin the 3 hr drive to LA or SF as a benefit but that trip gets old real fast to a point that anyone rarely does it. If you’re into lakes and the national park nearby than I can start to see the appeal of living there….sort of

Yup, did my intern year in central cali and the drive back to SoCal was not fun.

 

[narcotics999]

We all know you have to put in the work to get the salaries we dream about. The math has been done on here enough but assume a unit value of $50 (which most wont complain about) a 40 hr work week and 8 weeks vacation puts you a 350k (425k if the unit value is $60 which great for most pp), and that's not including call stipends if there are any. So a minimum being 500k isn't crazy. I think the moral is we could all use bigger pay to keep up with the current inflated economy where everything is expensive even to people who make good money. Most LA citizens don't make anywhere near 500k/year

I was trying to figure out which year you are talking about. 2025 Average locums 350/hr. 40 hours/44 weeks gets you 616k.

 

[narcotics999]

The problem with the entirety of the central valley is that the weather is absolute ****. You're paying the so-called "paradise tax" to live in California, but the climate is horrendous.

It's boiling hot and dry for months in the summer, eternal drought, and consistently has several of the top 5 worst air quality cities in the nation. Might as well pick a spot in New Mexico or west Texas.

The best thing that can be said about the climate is that you're only a couple hours from the coast, and a couple hours from the mountains.

I was always worried that my car engine would overheat to pass Grapevine during summer.

 

[Radar26]

I was always worried that my car engine would overheat to pass Grapevine during summer.

Never great when CALTRANS has to actually make a sign to warn drivers…

 

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I was always worried that my car engine would overheat to pass Grapevine during summer.

lol my last day of intern year when I was driving back from Visalia to SoCal, my 10 year old scion tC broke down smack dab in the middle—with all my belongings still remaining in the hatchback.

 

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Having to pay California income tax is worth about 100k in pretax income.

Effective tax rate at 600k is 10.4%. Marginal is 12.4%. So 500k Texas is same as 600k California from purely a take home standpoint.

Historically I would say there’s no reason to ever live in central California/inland empire, but with house prices near the coast being what they are a lot of anesthesiologists won’t ever be able to buy near the coast anyway. For a lot of people being able to own a home is important.

 

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Having to pay California income tax is worth about 100k in pretax income.

Effective tax rate at 600k is 10.4%. Marginal is 12.4%. So 500k Texas is same as 600k California from purely a take home standpoint.

Historically I would say there’s no reason to ever live in central California/inland empire, but with house prices near the coast being what they are a lot of anesthesiologists won’t ever be able to buy near the coast anyway. For a lot of people being able to own a home is important.

“Ever” is a strong statement there but I would agree

 

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“Ever” is a strong statement there but I would agree

True. I guess I meant historically if you didn’t have family in the area it was a weird choice. Now I 100% get it. And despite the hate the weather is still much better than Midwest, and a bit better than Nevada/Arizona too, if you want a temperate climate.

I really like this site for weather breakdowns: Riverside Climate, Weather By Month, Average Temperature (California, United States) - Weather Spark

Phoenix Climate, Weather By Month, Average Temperature (Arizona, United States) - Weather Spark

In Phoenix, the summers are sweltering and dry, the winters are cool, and it is mostly clear year round. Over the course of the year, the temperature typically varies from 45°F to 107°F and is rarely below 37°F or above 112°F.

weatherspark.com

 

[nimbus]

True. I guess I meant historically if you didn’t have family in the area it was a weird choice. Now I 100% get it. And despite the hate the weather is still much better than Midwest, and a bit better than Nevada/Arizona too, if you want a temperate climate.

I really like this site for weather breakdowns: Riverside Climate, Weather By Month, Average Temperature (California, United States) - Weather Spark

Phoenix Climate, Weather By Month, Average Temperature (Arizona, United States) - Weather Spark

In Phoenix, the summers are sweltering and dry, the winters are cool, and it is mostly clear year round. Over the course of the year, the temperature typically varies from 45°F to 107°F and is rarely below 37°F or above 112°F.

weatherspark.com

Inland Empire is better than Central Valley.