Official 2012-2013 GI fellowship application cycle

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Stats: IMG US Citizen, Step 1, 2, 3 (220 to 240), Modest research, University program, Good LOR's, 40 programs applied, 5 rejections (tripartite U of Miami rejection...lol), No interviews. Any Hope left ?
 
danmcdonald712 said:
@ adog, did you get IV's this weekend?

@IMHAPPY, some of us have no interviews and you are freaking out with 3, in addition to knowing you'll definitely match at your program?
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I understand some ppl don't have any interviews, but that doesn't mean I don't have a right to freak out. 3 interviews for GI is not a lot. In regards to my own program, I will not match there because they are only taking two from Inhouse. And those 2 are pretty much decided already based on conversations I've had with some attendings and current fellows who are privy to that information.
 
both last week. not during weekend
 
Just out of curiosity, is your program inviting external candidates to interview? because that would be an unfair waste of candidate resources if the 2013 fellows are pretty much known.
 
IMhappy said:
I understand some ppl don't have any interviews, but that doesn't mean I don't have a right to freak out. 3 interviews for GI is not a lot. In regards to my own program, I will not match there because they are only taking two from Inhouse. And those 2 are pretty much decided already based on conversations I've had with some attendings and current fellows who are privy to that information.
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hahahaha @ RIGHT TO FREAK OUT. Hilarious.:laugh:
 
danmcdonald712 said:
Just out of curiosity, is your program inviting external candidates to interview? because that would be an unfair waste of candidate resources if the 2013 fellows are pretty much known.
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Your question doesn't make a whole lot of sense... Why would any program invite people if they weren't considering them for at least one slot. Your point about wasting interviewees time and money is quite valid, but the same would apply to the program itself. They're not going to waste their attendings' time interviewing people if they know ahead of time they're not going to be accepting the very folks they're interviewing.
 
danmcdonald712 said:
Just out of curiosity, is your program inviting external candidates to interview? because that would be an unfair waste of candidate resources if the 2013 fellows are pretty much known.
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My program takes half internal and half external.
 
Rejection from Ohio state and Univ of Miami again (x3)-I am going to assume this is a computer glitch now 🙁and not someone being intentionally mean sending out repeated rejections,...😡
 
Rejections today:
U Miami X 4😡
OSU Wexner Medical Center
 
Rejection from Ohio state university ... What a start of the week ..
 
Ochsner interview offer today as well. I'm guessing the second wave is coming.
 
Interview Calls (59)

Albert Einstein philadelphia
Albert Einstein Ny
Banner Health, Phoenix
Baylor Houston
Brigham and Women Hospital
Boston University
Brown University
California Pacific Medical Center
Carolinas Medical Center
Case Western
Cleveland Clinic (Ohio)
Cook County
Columbia
Dartmouth
Emory
Henry Ford, Detroit
Indiana University
Johns Hopkins
Loyola
Mayo Jacksonville
Mayo Rochester
Mass General
Medical College of Wisconsin
Methodist Dallas
NYU
Oregon Health Sciences
Ohio State University
Ochner Clinic
Stanford
St. Louis University, Missouri
St. Luke's Roosevelt
Stony Brook
SUNY Upstate
Texas A&M Scott and White
University of Alabama, Birmingham
University of Buffalo
University of California, Davis
University of California, Los Angeles
University of California, San Diego
University of California, San Francisco
University of Colorado, Denver
University of Florida, Jacksonville
Universityvof Florida, Gainesville
University of Louisville
University of Maryland
University of Miami
University of Michigan
University of Missouri, Columbia
University of New Mexico
University of North Carolina
University of Oklahoma
UPMC
University of Rochester
University of South Florida
University of Texas, Southwestern
UTHSCSA
UTMB
UVA
University of Washington, Seattle
University of West Virginia
University of Wisconsin, Madison
Vanderbilt
Vermont
Virginia Commonwealth
Wake Forest
Washington Univ in St. Louis
William Beaumont
Yale



Rejections:


BIDMC
Henry Ford, Detroit
Mayo Rochester
Mt. Sinai, NY
OHSU
University of California, Fresno
UCSD
UCSF
University of Miami
University of Miami
University of Miami (LOL)
University of Missouri, Columbia
University of Washington, Seattle
Vanderbilt
Virginia Commonwealth
 
As far as I know Einstein is the only philly/NJ program to offer interviews so far.
 
The bar is set higher for IMGs but what's an acceptable number of publications to get about 5-6 interviews? No body is obviously looking at your letters before your interview so things that should matter are scores, visa status and number of publications, right?
 
Letters of recommendation do matter and probably right after research if not number 1 in the list of importance.
 
Quiet Monday for me, except for the 4th rejection from U of Miami. At least they sent an apology email after realizing the multiple rejections they sent out.
 
CoPaW16 said:
Ochsner interview offer today as well. I'm guessing the second wave is coming.
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@CoPaW16, please what are your credentials? you're scoring great interviews and i'm curious to have an idea of what actually makes the difference between strong applicants.
 
I am a US med school graduate, third year internal medicine resident at an academic clinic institution. Step 1 and 3: low 230s. I applied with 7 peer-reviewed published or accepted manuscripts (three first author), 11 published or printing abstracts (6 first author with the national meeting presentations to match...DDW, ACG, AASLD, ACP). I didn't get to read any of my 4 letters of rec by I'm assuming they are positive.

I applied to 17 programs, so far have 7 interviews and 1 rejection.

Hope this helps, and good luck to all.
 
CoPaW16 said:
I am a US med school graduate, third year internal medicine resident at an academic clinic institution. Step 1 and 3: low 230s. I applied with 7 peer-reviewed published or accepted manuscripts (three first author), 11 published or printing abstracts (6 first author with the national meeting presentations to match...DDW, ACG, AASLD, ACP). I didn't get to read any of my 4 letters of rec by I'm assuming they are positive.

I applied to 17 programs, so far have 7 interviews and 1 rejection.

Hope this helps, and good luck to all.
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Thank you for the response. It definitely helps. They are obviously looking for publications. That is the only major difference i see between applicants. Why do they expect us to have published more than some GI faculty when you are only required to have 1 research publication all through fellowship? An unfortunate reality we have to face.🙁
 
danmcdonald712 said:
Thank you for the response. It definitely helps. They are obviously looking for publications. That is the only major difference i see between applicants. Why do they expect us to have published more than some GI faculty when you are only required to have 1 research publication all through fellowship? An unfortunate reality we have to face.🙁
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I have more than the previously mentioned applicant. I'm a AMG with 8 publications (6 first author, 2 2nd author) with 2 oral presentations and 2 poster presentations -- all in GI.

I only have 2 interviews so far and applied to more than 17 programs. However, I have lower USMLE scores. I think everything is important. USMLE scores are used for screening. Once the pool gets cut down, then research and letters are looked at.
 
Letters obviously do matter but no one is going to use quality of letters as a criterion for interview. That will be too much of a burden. I think visa status, scores and number of publications are used to screens and send out applications. Another reject from IU.
 
coffeeground said:
Letters obviously do matter but no one is going to use quality of letters as a criterion for interview. That will be too much of a burden. I think visa status, scores and number of publications are used to screens and send out applications.
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Disagree wholeheartedly. I can't speak for GI programs, but in reviewing apps for our Hem/Onc program, LORs (who wrote them and what they said) were far more important that pubs. Publications were only useful in bumping up or down borderline candidates. OTOH, a great LOR from a known entity pulled more than a couple of apps out of the trash, and a "well, he did OK I guess...he'd be fine for your program" LOR caused us to trash a couple of AOA/PhD/240+ candidates.

You're correct that visa status and Steps are the two most useful screening tools (we're a mid-tier program and we were able to ditch all apps that needed visas and still have >100 apps/spot). But you're obsession with pub #s is kind of weird. Publications are icing, LORs are the cake.
 
You know what guys,this process is sometimes pretty abstract and only God understands it.

Bileducts, your package looks better than mine too. I have 6 total abstract presentations, botherline steps less than 230s but i all schools/ residencies attended are top of the line, and my LORS are typically excellent.
In all humility, anytime my interviewers read me a section of my LOR, it sounds pretty good even yo me

So, i actually wonder if where you trained, quality of of letters may be more important than your steps, which is perhaps the only weakling in my application.

I have also not gotten invites from my "safe schools" but gotten invites from some major excellent places.

So..........guys, this is a process that we may never understand. Cos i have no idea why the Albert Einstein Beth Isreal program has not invited me over but a places like Columbia, Sinai etc has......just thinking
 
Fellowship application procedure is way more subjective than residency. I am 100% certain that everyone here on this forum has great letters, research +/- publications, great personal statement. If we take a look from the side of the program director, there has to be a way that he/she is using to select the candidates to interview for fellowship.
In my limited experience, I feel that connections matter greatly, especially if your program director or chief of GI is going to pick up that phone for you.
 
temmie said:
So, i actually wonder if where you trained, quality of of letters may be more important than your steps, which is perhaps the only weakling in my application.
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Definitely true. Not really a mystery. These ARE what matters. Research too, but less then where trained and WHO letters are from. Academic GI is not that big of a world. Steps matter indirectly because that's what landed you your residency. Still agree sometimes seems like no rhyme or reason to who gets what where.
 
Anyone hear from umdnj, penn state, allegheny general, or cooper?
 
OSU and Indiana rejection ... SUNY Upstate invite
 
Has anybody heard from any of the smaller community programs in NY?
 
I was hoping that the programs in my hometown of Dallas would show me some love. To date, I didn't get any love for med school, residency and now fellowship. 😛
 
good night friends ! another day passed. will wake up tomorrow morning hoping to get some better news
 
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