Official 2014-2015 Pulm/CCM Fellowship Application Cycle

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Update: same harsh uw rejection. Mayo and Brigham rejection.

Second round ucsf invite and nw.

Very confusing emotions. Also same with Leospaceman - Hopkins and all these other selective places gave him an invite but rejection from ucinn.

About as random as I remember residency interviews...
 
firsttima said:
Update: same harsh uw rejection. Mayo and Brigham rejection.

Second round ucsf invite and nw.

Very confusing emotions. Also same with Leospaceman - Hopkins and all these other selective places gave him an invite but rejection from ucinn.

About as random as I remember residency interviews...
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You're right firsttima, I guess every program has it's specific preferences/filters. Looking at my interviews, I'm like ...Thank God I applied widely.
Congrats on UCSF and NW - awesome!!
 
Requesting group input:
Please rank the following programs in order of overall competitiveness/ desirability/ overall awesomeness.
Northwestern, Iowa, Cleveland Clinic, Loyoa, Brown
 
DBiii said:
Requesting group input:
Please rank the following programs in order of overall competitiveness/ desirability/ overall awesomeness.
Northwestern, Iowa, Cleveland Clinic, Loyoa, Brown
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Hmmm, guess it'll depend on what you're looking for. If geography were no consideration..

NW(research) = CCF (clinical)
Iowa=loyola
Brown

that's my 0.02$ not having visited any of these places yet 😛
 
updating the list. Lurkers/non-lurkers please post if you know any different

INTERVIEWS:
Albany
Albert Einstein Montefiore 8/1
Arizona 8/12
Banner Health, Phoenix 8/27
Baylor houston 8/6
Boston University 7/31
Brigham 8/8
Buffalo 8/19
Brown 8/15
Carilion Clinic (Virginia) 8/7
Case Western/Univ Hospital 7/30
Cleveland Clinic 8/8
Colorado 8/7
Cook County 8/14
CPMC San Franscisco
Duke 8/8
East Carolina 8/6
ETSU 8/8
Einstein phily 8/13
Emory 7/21
EVMS 7/30
Georgetown 7/30
Geisinger 8/21
Henry Ford 8/13
Hopkins 7/24
Indiana 8/6
Iowa 8/26
Kansas 7/31
Lankenau 8/1
Lenox Hill
Loma Linda 8/21
LSU Shreveport 8/15
Loyola 7/31
Maryland 7/24
Mayo 8/5
MCW 8/12
MGH/BI 8/13
Michigan 8/13
Missouri
MUSC 8/12
Northwestern 8/26
NYP-Columbia 8/4
NYU - 8/10
Ohio State 7/24
OHSU 7/30
Penn State 8/6
Pittsburgh 8/1
Rochester 8/12
Rutgers NJMS 8/19
SLU 8/7
South Alabama 8/12
Stanford 8/17
SUNY Stonybrook 8/26
SUNY Upstate 8/14
Temple
Texas A&M 8/7
Texas Tech 8/25
Tufts 08/06
Tulane 8/18
UC Davis 8/20
UCLA 7/29
UCSD 8/5
UCSF 7/28
UCSF Fresno 8/25
UChicago 8/1
UIC - Chicago 8/18
UMinnesota 7/29
UCinn 7/30
UKentucky 8/5
UMass 8/15
UNC 8/5
UPenn 8/5
USC 8/22
Utah 8/13
UTSW 7/28
UVM 7/28
Vanderbilt 7/23
VCU 8/15
Virginia 8/12
Wake Forrest 8/8
Wash U St.Louis 7/22
Wayne State University/ DMC 8/19
West Virginia 8/13
Winthrop
Yale 7/25

REJECTIONS:
Alabama 8/26
Albert Einstein
Brigham 8/22
Emory 8/5
Geisinger 8/20
Mayo 8/25
MUSC (South Carolina) 8/5
Montefiore 8/1
Nebraska 8/21
Saint Louis University 8/4
Tulane 8/20
U Cincinati 8/11
UPenn 7/27
Wash U St Louis
Yale 7/28
SUNY Syracuse 8/20
Nebraska 8/21
USC 8/25
U Washington 8/26
UWisconsin 8/26
 
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Rejection from Henry Ford

INTERVIEWS:
Albany
Albert Einstein Montefiore 8/1
Arizona 8/12
Banner Health, Phoenix 8/27
Baylor houston 8/6
Boston University 7/31
Brigham 8/8
Buffalo 8/19
Brown 8/15
Carilion Clinic (Virginia) 8/7
Case Western/Univ Hospital 7/30
Cleveland Clinic 8/8
Colorado 8/7
Cook County 8/14
CPMC San Franscisco
Duke 8/8
East Carolina 8/6
ETSU 8/8
Einstein phily 8/13
Emory 7/21
EVMS 7/30
Georgetown 7/30
Geisinger 8/21
Henry Ford 8/13
Hopkins 7/24
Indiana 8/6
Iowa 8/26
Kansas 7/31
Lankenau 8/1
Lenox Hill
Loma Linda 8/21
LSU Shreveport 8/15
Loyola 7/31
Maryland 7/24
Mayo 8/5
MCW 8/12
MGH/BI 8/13
Michigan 8/13
Missouri
MUSC 8/12
Northwestern 8/26
NYP-Columbia 8/4
NYU - 8/10
Ohio State 7/24
OHSU 7/30
Penn State 8/6
Pittsburgh 8/1
Rochester 8/12
Rutgers NJMS 8/19
SLU 8/7
South Alabama 8/12
Stanford 8/17
SUNY Stonybrook 8/26
SUNY Upstate 8/14
Temple
Texas A&M 8/7
Texas Tech 8/25
Tufts 08/06
Tulane 8/18
UC Davis 8/20
UCLA 7/29
UCSD 8/5
UCSF 7/28
UCSF Fresno 8/25
UChicago 8/1
UIC - Chicago 8/18
UMinnesota 7/29
UCinn 7/30
UKentucky 8/5
UMass 8/15
UNC 8/5
UPenn 8/5
USC 8/22
Utah 8/13
UTSW 7/28
UVM 7/28
Vanderbilt 7/23
VCU 8/15
Virginia 8/12
Wake Forrest 8/8
Wash U St.Louis 7/22
Wayne State University/ DMC 8/19
West Virginia 8/13
Winthrop
Yale 7/25

REJECTIONS:
Alabama 8/26
Albert Einstein
Brigham 8/22
Emory 8/5
Geisinger 8/20
Henry Ford 8/27
Mayo 8/25
MUSC (South Carolina) 8/5
Montefiore 8/1
Nebraska 8/21
Saint Louis University 8/4
Tulane 8/20
U Cincinati 8/11
UPenn 7/27
Wash U St Louis
Yale 7/28
SUNY Syracuse 8/20
Nebraska 8/21
USC 8/25
U Washington 8/26
UWisconsin 8/26
 
Johns Hopkins rejection
But at least they were nice about it
 
sudolfica.dingolfi said:
DBiii out of curiosity....How deep into pulmonary research are u in?
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To be honest that's not really how I am selling myself. I have a few posters and a case report. No manuscripts. I am selling myself as an excellent clinician and communicator; dedicated to medical education.
 
anybody hear back from Florida programs or know of anybody who received an interview or rejection from FL programs?
 
DBiii said:
"...Our initial review of your application file suggests that the likelihood of your ultimately matching into the UW program is low and, therefore, we are not able to offer you an interview...."

From university of Washington.

Maybe they should work on their people skills. I knew it was a reach to apply there, but damn. My other rejections have been a bit more respectful.
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They've been sending out that same email for years.

Friends don't let friends go there anyway. Lol.
 
jdh71 said:
They've been sending out that same email for years.

Friends don't let friends go there anyway. Lol.
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What an a-holey letter anyway...you wouldn't say anything in this vein to patients, yet they would to colleagues.
 
jdh71 said:
Should tell you. A lot.
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Current fellow at UW here. They are actually quite nice and supportive but can't really comment on the rejection letter. Feel free to PM me if you have questions about this or other similar programs, happy to help. GL!
 
golftrippy said:
Current fellow at UW here. They are actually quite nice and supportive but can't really comment on the rejection letter. Feel free to PM me if you have questions about this or other similar programs, happy to help. GL!
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That's what you HAVE TO say. Lol.

I know the game. I also know more than a few past fellows from your neck of the woods.


Top 5 spot by academic rep. No doubt about it.
 
jdh71 said:
That's what you HAVE TO say. Lol.

I know the game. I also know more than a few past fellows from your neck of the woods.


Top 5 spot by academic rep. No doubt about it.
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I will say I picked UW specifically because I thought that for a top place it was more supportive of a variety of career paths and goals than the other places I interviewed--and I think I was right. We have a fellow on a clinical track, one per year on a clinical educator track and the rest on T32 research pathways but if goals change (as they frequently do), the leadership seems to be supportive and understanding of that--tough to find at other major academic shops. And yes, my clinical year is pretty brutal and busy--but isn't that what you want when you only do 18 months of clinical time?

And I don't really have to say anything, the programs not paying me (much).
 
golftrippy said:
I will say I picked UW specifically because I thought that for a top place it was more supportive of a variety of career paths and goals than the other places I interviewed--and I think I was right. We have a fellow on a clinical track, one per year on a clinical educator track and the rest on T32 research pathways but if goals change (as they frequently do), the leadership seems to be supportive and understanding of that--tough to find at other major academic shops. And yes, my clinical year is pretty brutal and busy--but isn't that what you want when you only do 18 months of clinical time?

And I don't really have to say anything, the programs not paying me (much).
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Some of your past fellows tell a bit of a different story.

People obviously need to interview and make up their own minds.

I know you're not bring paid. BUT you're not exactly going out yourself as a fellow and THEN say anything "bad". That's just the way this game is played. I don't know you from Adam. I'm not accusing you of lying or having a "bad" experience. Just so we are clear. However, I DO know these past fellows and they are not so long past it was decades ago and they tell an interesting story that is not precisely what you are saying.

So.

The forum can do what it likes with anonymous postings. The salt's free.

I agree. GL everybody.
 
jdh71 said:
Some of your past fellows tell a bit of a different story.

People obviously need to interview and make up their own minds.

I know you're not bring paid. BUT you're not exactly going out yourself as a fellow and THEN say anything "bad". That's just the way this game is played. I don't know you from Adam. I'm not accusing you of lying or having a "bad" experience. Just so we are clear. However, I DO know these past fellows and they are not so long past it was decades ago and they tell an interesting story that is not precisely what you are saying.

So.

The forum can do what it likes with anonymous postings. The salt's free.

I agree. GL everybody.
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Sure, I have no doubt that some fellows had a bad experience here (there's not one right fit for everyone) and I am certainly biased, but I certainly had the experience to interview at and decide between the other comparable places and think I made a great choice and would make the choice again in a heartbeat. So I won't hijack the forum anymore than to say I'm available if anyone faces similar decisions, and I'm around if you're interested in my perspective.
 
golftrippy said:
Current fellow at UW here. They are actually quite nice and supportive but can't really comment on the rejection letter. Feel free to PM me if you have questions about this or other similar programs, happy to help. GL!
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Why does your program feel the need to communicate with it's applicants in this manner? I know UW was a reach for me, but I'm no slacker. It's almost as if they were angry I wasted their time.

Given that I will not be able to interview there, UW will never be able to erase the nasty first impression they just made on me (and everyone else they've rejected in this manner). I've lost quite a bit of respect for anyone associated with your program.
 
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DBiii said:
Why does your program feel the need to communicate with it's applicants in this manner? I know UW was a reach for me, but I'm no slacker. It's almost as if they were angry I wasted their time.

Given that I will not be able to interview there, UW will never be able to erase the nasty first impression they just made on me (and everyone else they've rejected in this manner). I've lost quite a bit of respect for anyone associated with your program.
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I agree with what DBii says... it reeks of superciliousness and is in very poor professional taste and disrespectful even if they don't think you're 'worth it', and the fact that they send out the same letter year after year without bothering to change its content should give you a fair idea of what the program administration wants to portray itself as. Maybe they do it to make the ones who do get invites 'extra special' 😛 There are other ivy league places who send out much nicer rejection letters; I don't think it ever pays to burn bridges this way.
Hiding behing the walls of cyberspace and saying nasty things is easy. Snobs are fine, but snobs with no class...are just... you get my drift..
 
I do not want to spend another 1k to go to CHEST : (
 
+ TJefferson
+ Stanford ...... 3rd/4th round of invites? ecstatic nevertheless : ))
 
How much details do you need to know about previous publications/research projects that you included in your CV for the interview purposes?
For example if you participated as a data collector in few projects prior to residency, do you need to know the whole paper as if you written it?
what questions do you expect in the interview in general?

Have my first interview tomorrow; nervous
 
+ SUNY Upstate interview

INTERVIEWS:
Albany
Albert Einstein Montefiore 8/1
Arizona 8/12
Banner Health, Phoenix 8/27
Baylor houston 8/6
Boston University 7/31
Brigham 8/8
Buffalo 8/19
Brown 8/15
Carilion Clinic (Virginia) 8/7
Case Western/Univ Hospital 7/30
Cleveland Clinic 8/8
Colorado 8/7
Cook County 8/14
CPMC San Franscisco
Dartmouth 8/28
Duke 8/8
East Carolina 8/6
ETSU 8/8
Einstein phily 8/13
Emory 7/21
EVMS 7/30
Georgetown 7/30
Geisinger 8/21
Henry Ford 8/13
Hopkins 7/24
Indiana 8/6
Iowa 8/26
Kansas 7/31
Lankenau 8/1
Lenox Hill
Loma Linda 8/21
LSU Shreveport 8/15
Loyola 7/31
Maryland 7/24
Mayo 8/5
MCW 8/12
MGH/BI 8/13
Michigan 8/13
Missouri
MUSC 8/12
Northwestern 8/26
NYP-Columbia 8/4
NYU - 8/10
Ohio State 7/24
OHSU 7/30
Penn State 8/6
Pittsburgh 8/1
Rochester 8/12
Rutgers NJMS 8/19
SLU 8/7
South Alabama 8/12
Stanford 8/17, 8/28
SUNY Stonybrook 8/26
SUNY Upstate 8/14, 8/28
Temple
Texas A&M 8/7
Texas Tech 8/25
Thomas Jefferson 8/28
Tufts 08/06
Tulane 8/18
UC Davis 8/20
UCLA 7/29
UCSD 8/5
UCSF 7/28
UCSF Fresno 8/25
UChicago 8/1
UIC - Chicago 8/18
UMinnesota 7/29
UCinn 7/30
UKentucky 8/5
UMass 8/15
UNC 8/5
UPenn 8/5
USC 8/22
Utah 8/13
UTSW 7/28
UVM 7/28
Vanderbilt 7/23
VCU 8/15
Virginia 8/12
Wake Forrest 8/8
Wash U St.Louis 7/22
Wayne State University/ DMC 8/19
West Virginia 8/13
Winthrop
Yale 7/25

REJECTIONS:
Alabama 8/26
Albert Einstein
Brigham 8/22
Emory 8/5
Geisinger 8/20
Henry Ford 8/27
John Hopkins 8/27
Mayo 8/25
MUSC (South Carolina) 8/5
Montefiore 8/1
Nebraska 8/21
Saint Louis University 8/4
Tulane 8/20
U Cincinati 8/11
UPenn 7/27
Wash U St Louis
Yale 7/28
SUNY Syracuse 8/20
Nebraska 8/21
USC 8/25
U Washington 8/26
UWisconsin 8/26
 
My interview never asked about my research or project. They asked what I am interested in though.. so might have to link it to your past projects
 
Why that state or area, why pulm cc , what kind of practice do you see yourself doing in future. .. i.e 60% icu 40% pulm. Your back up plan. What kind of reseach.. basic science vs clinical. Any questions? Mostly chill environment. Not like IM interviews at all
 
Coffee MD said:
How much details do you need to know about previous publications/research projects that you included in your CV for the interview purposes?
For example if you participated as a data collector in few projects prior to residency, do you need to know the whole paper as if you written it?
what questions do you expect in the interview in general?

Have my first interview tomorrow; nervous
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Only through with 1 interview, had 5 ppl interview me, and all of them were chill. With 'popular' cities, they won't need to, but with less popular/smaller ones, a decent amount of conversation may hinge on them trying to sell you the city or you trying to tell them why you'd be willing to live there. Most of it was them trying to answer my questions/concerns, a couple of the discussions were pretty much about why I was interested in the kind of research I was interested in pursuing (my cv/personal statement shows my commitment to research), but I guess it would be more clinical if that's more your thing. Overall, though I was stressed going in, it was all in all a very enjoyable experience.
I would be very honest in a positive way about what you really want to do with your fellowship, and not try to pretend otherwise; it's very different than residency interviews, and they can usually tell by your cv and letters
 
I have a message from a program, but "
Service Temporarily Unavailable"

at the eras website. I am going to go insane soon.
 
DBiii said:
I have a message from a program, but "
Service Temporarily Unavailable"

at the eras website. I am going to go insane soon.
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aww... that is exasperating, but in all honesty, on my end, don't think I can go any insaner : P
 
Mixed feelings about a 3 day weekend... that's one more day of waiting without activity on the ivs front!
 
In Time said:
Mixed feelings about a 3 day weekend... that's one more day of waiting without activity on the ivs front!
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ya never know....there has occassionally been activity over the weekends. People have gotten invites at midnight, and if you're on EST which I am, my hopes stay up even until 6-7 pm that maybe some west coast PC decided to send out invites before closing shop for the day..
 
Leo Spaceman said:
ya never know....there has occassionally been activity over the weekends. People have gotten invites at midnight, and if you're on EST which I am, my hopes stay up even until 6-7 pm that maybe some west coast PC decided to send out invites before closing shop for the day..
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Thanks Leo, now I'm going to be obsessively checking my email even on the weekend... Lol!
 
No, this is scheduled down time... received an email notifying me of this last week...
 
when is this supposed to end? STOP THE MADNESS!
 
Need some feedback about UCLA, Stanford, BWH and Hopkins. I'm starting on my interview trail and thought I'd be better able to assess programs/ask pertinent questions if I had a better general idea
Disclaimer: I'm not making my RoL or showing off... as an IMG, all these were pretty much out of reach I'd thought, and I consider myself very lucky to have even received invites
I like pulm probably a bit more than CC, but it was CC that got me interested in the field. The general opinion seems to be that NE programs are not that hands-on with procedures like chest tubes, perc-trachs, don't do their own intubations. I def want to be somewhere that is research-heavy, esp in PH and sleep. I'm not a procedure hound but I do want to receive good training and be really proficient at all the ICU procedural stuff when I finish my fellowship and I have no clue how these places are when it comes to their CC/procedural training. Anyone out there who can help out with some info?
 
Leo Spaceman said:
Need some feedback about UCLA, Stanford, BWH and Hopkins. I'm starting on my interview trail and thought I'd be better able to assess programs/ask pertinent questions if I had a better general idea
Disclaimer: I'm not making my RoL or showing off... as an IMG, all these were pretty much out of reach I'd thought, and I consider myself very lucky to have even received invites
I like pulm probably a bit more than CC, but it was CC that got me interested in the field. The general opinion seems to be that NE programs are not that hands-on with procedures like chest tubes, perc-trachs, don't do their own intubations. I def want to be somewhere that is research-heavy, esp in PH and sleep. I'm not a procedure hound but I do want to receive good training and be really proficient at all the ICU procedural stuff when I finish my fellowship and I have no clue how these places are when it comes to their CC/procedural training. Anyone out there who can help out with some info?
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You'll need to ask fellows their numbers. Push them. It very doubtful at any of those spots you'll be getting a ton of procedures that other teaching services will be doing like intubations, surgical chest tubes, or perc trachs. You will spend 18 months doing clinical work and 18 months doing research. You will need to figure out if you're going to get the clinical experience you want in those 18 months. It's sounds like a good amount but it's a enough to get rusty depending on the set up.
 
jdh71 said:
You'll need to ask fellows their numbers. Push them. It very doubtful at any of those spots you'll be getting a ton of procedures that other teaching services will be doing like intubations, surgical chest tubes, or perc trachs. You will spend 18 months doing clinical work and 18 months doing research. You will need to figure out if you're going to get the clinical experience you want in those 18 months. It's sounds like a good amount but it's a enough to get rusty depending on the set up.
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Thanks jdh, I'm the moonlighting kind, so I'm hoping that if at least during those first 18 months I can get a decent number under my belt, I should be able to then build up those numbers on my own...hopefully!
 
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