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I bought Uworld again and started doing blocks again but this time around I focused on the explanations than getting the question right. I made anki flashcards for what I didn't know. I realized I wasn't spending the time to understand and put the material into memory. I spent about 2 to 3 hours per block usually. Then what i think really helped is actually buying and taking the NBMEs. I think that was crucial to understand how they ask questions and what content seemed to pop up more often. That really helped during test day. Most importantly, you have to believe in yourself you are able to do this. Confidence is key. and If I can do it, anyone can.

TLDR: only used uworld and the nbmes. Tried to learn as much as possible which made it easier to rule out answer choices on test day.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
So, you did not do any NBMEs or UWSAs the first time you took CK?
 

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Thanks for sharing your experience.
So, you did not do any NBMEs or UWSAs the first time you took CK?
I did not do any NBMEs the first time around and regret it deeply. The first time doing Uworld I did not read explanations in detail and did not read the whole explanation. When you do a Uworld question, the explanations are more important than getting the question right, it just took me longer to realize that. After reading explanation after explanation I realized I was learning so much more and understanding the material to the point where I was confident that the answer I chose on step 2 questions were correct and why the others were wrong. I could not do that the first time around. Hope that helps?
 
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I did not do any NBMEs the first time around and regret it deeply. The first time doing Uworld I did not read explanations in detail and did not read the whole explanation. When you do a Uworld question, the explanations are more important than getting the question right, it just took me longer to realize that. After reading explanation after explanation I realized I was learning so much more and understanding the material to the point where I was confident that the answer I chose on step 2 questions were correct and why the others were wrong. I could not do that the first time around. Hope that helps?
Yes, it does. Thanks! Good luck for your future endeavors!!
 
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Followed these a lot last year so figured I would pay it forward. Study hard and do as many questions as you can. I completed a second pass of UWorld in about 4 weeks (had about 300 questions left). For reference, step 1 was 226 and I'm going into surgery so needed to do well. First pass was around 65-70%, second pass around 80-85%. Doing back to back NBME was crucial to building stamina but it takes a lot out of you.

3 weeks out: NBME 6 - 218
1 week out: NBME 7 & 8 243, 247
4 days out: UWSA 1 244
2 days out: USWA 2 249
real deal: 253

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Followed these a lot last year so figured I would pay it forward. Study hard and do as many questions as you can. I completed a second pass of UWorld in about 4 weeks (had about 300 questions left). For reference, step 1 was 226 and I'm going into surgery so needed to do well. First pass was around 65-70%, second pass around 80-85%. Doing back to back NBME was crucial to building stamina but it takes a lot out of you.

3 weeks out: NBME 6 - 218
1 week out: NBME 7 & 8 243, 247
4 days out: UWSA 1 244
2 days out: USWA 2 249
real deal: 253

Good luck!
Thanks for sharing your experience, glad to see that someone is getting above their UWSA. I'm totally with you on the benefit of multiple passes of UWORLD. I'd say that I boosted my step 1 score 20 points by going over 70% of the UWORLD content in an extremely intense 5 days before the actual exam.
 
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I took step 2 over two weeks ago meaning I should be getting my score this Wednesday. I’m driving myself insane thinking if I failed or not. I got a 228 and a 226 on UWSA 1 and 2 respectively and 215 on NBME 8. On the test I had a panic attack through out the first 3 blocks and didn’t get to answer 30 Questions. Please someone tell me there’s a chance I passed
Sounds like next week you’ll find out l. Best of luck!


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Are the nbme clinical science master series question sets for shelf exams useful for step 2? Same question for the clinical medicine sets. It’s well know the three NBMEs are useful but wanted input prior to dumping uhhhh 400 bucks on all 20 something of the clinical shelf things the nbme has. Thanks.

Helpful = good for content not score predictions since I’m taking it no matter what lmao

Just to clarify not asking about practice for shelf’s just step 2
 
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Are the nbme clinical science master series question sets for shelf exams useful for step 2? Same question for the clinical medicine sets. It’s well know the three NBMEs are useful but wanted input prior to dumping uhhhh 400 bucks on all 20 something of the clinical shelf things the nbme has. Thanks.

Helpful = good for content not score predictions since I’m taking it no matter what lmao

Just to clarify not asking about practice for shelf’s just step 2
I wouldnt do "all" of them personally....except for maybe Medicine CMS....after one or two the questions start repeating themselves....at least thats what I have seen in my experience. I might do all CMS forms for Medicine just because its such a large chunk of the exam....I find them useful just to get an idea of question style and pattern.
 
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Received my result 227.
UWSA 1: 209 (6 months out)
NBME 6: 209 (10 weeks out)
NBME 7: 233 (4 weeks out)
NBME 8: 224 ( 2 weeks out)
UWSA 2: 247 (2 days out)
Chances to match in IM? Old grad IMG


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Hey guys.

Gave my exam on 11/1.

Uworld average was 66%

NBME 7 (offline): 79.5%
UWSA 2: 220
UWSA 1: 256
NBME 8: 215 with 40 qs wrong (freaked me out 2 days before the exam)

Real Deal: 231
Step 1: 232

I feel like none of the diagnostic tests are accurate, they're just off. So just trust your gut. Not euphoric about my score but I realise it could've been worse. Content overall.
 

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Hey guys IMG here!

Resources
  1. UWORLD
  2. OnlineMedEd
  3. my Step 1 notes

Preparation


June 2018- July 2018: Review of step 1 material & OME videos (taking my own notes !) (approximately 5h/day)

DEDICATED (August 2018- October 2018)

  1. 15 Aug: NBME 6 (baseline) --> 225
  2. 17 Aug- 6 Sep: UWorld (1 block/day). Taking notes, enriching my OME notes that I created during June/July.
  3. 7 Sep- 18 Sep: Review my notes.
  4. 19 Sep: 2 assessments back to back & 1h total break--> NBME 7--> 215 & UWSA1-->247
  5. 21 Sep- 23 Sep: CMS ( IM-1,2,3 Peds-1,2 Surgery-1,2 ObGyn-1,2... not sure if I correctly remember the forms that I did, but I definitely did NOT do them all)
  6. 24 Sep- 7 Oct: UWorld (2 blocks/day). Taking notes, enriching the notes that I had already created.
  7. 8 Oct-13 Oct: Review notes.
  8. 14 Oct: NBME 8--> 243 & 4x UW blocks
  9. 15 Oct- 18 Oct: UWorld (2 blocks/day). Taking notes, enriching the notes that I had already created.
  10. 19 Oct: UWSA2--> 260s (cheated in a few questions)
  11. 20 Oct- 29 Oct: Review notes
  12. (23 Oct--> practice session at prometric center= free 120q's--> 81%)
  13. 30 Oct 2018: REAL TEST--> 254
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1. Anki
I only used Zanki's Anki deck for ObGyn and Surgery. This will save you a lot time, as you will realise that some basic concepts of ObGyn, Surgery will stick to your mind without effort.

2. Hours per day during dedicated
August: 6h/day
September: 7-8h/day
October: 8-9h/day

3. Post-exam feelings
So much different from step 1. Walking out from the prometric, I had literally NO CLUE of how I did perform. Getting closer to the date that I would get my report back I started feeling anxious and didn't want to talk about that. Weird feeling I had not experienced before. Anyway, I can see that that's a common experience of almost all of us who took CK.

Good Luck to all of you!
 

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Hey guys.

Gave my exam on 11/1.

Uworld average was 66%

NBME 7 (offline): 79.5%
UWSA 2: 220
UWSA 1: 256
NBME 8: 215 with 40 qs wrong (freaked me out 2 days before the exam)

Real Deal: 231
Step 1: 232

I feel like none of the diagnostic tests are accurate, they're just off. So just trust your gut. Not euphoric about my score but I realise it could've been worse. Content overall.
Hm, took it on the same day but my score is ‘t available. So strange. It’s not 11am yet, wonder how you got yours an hour ahead.


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I took it Monday. I do not feel good about it. I felt like I had so many questions with 2 equivalently good answers and it was really just splitting hairs which was better. I had one block that was much more distressing than the others. I was marking ~1/4-1/3 of the questions each block.
My Uworld practices were 240-250s.

Everyone tells me they feel like garbage coming out of it so I'm hoping that is just normal, but I'm not terribly optimistic .
 
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It seems like people have been scoring below their UWSA 1-2 exams recently. Probably reporting bias like another poster stated earlier, but makes you wonder what is going on. Also, are scores released on the 3rd of 4th Wednesday?
 

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UWorld 1 256 1 mo before, UWorld 2 265 2 weeks before. Free 120 95% finished 20mins early for each section.
I almost always do better on actual exams, so I expected to get around 260. Sad to learn that the real deal is only high 240, I’ll get over it pretty quickly because it’s not a bad score and the difference is unlikely to affect my prospect much at this point given I am in the mid interview seasons already. Still kinda sad. I enjoyed the studying and really thought I had known all the UWORLD content solid.


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UWorld 1 256 1 mo before, UWorld 2 265 2 weeks before. Free 120 95% finished 20mins early for each section.
I almost always do better on actual exams, so I expected to get around 260. Sad to learn that the real deal is only high 240, I’ll get over it pretty quickly because it’s not a bad score and the difference is unlikely to affect my prospect much at this point given I am in the mid interview seasons already. Still kinda sad. I enjoyed the studying and really thought I had known all the UWORLD content solid.


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It seems like people have been scoring below their UWSA 1-2 exams recently. Probably reporting bias like another poster stated earlier, but makes you wonder what is going on. Also, are scores released on the 3rd of 4th Wednesday?
Scores are usually released the 3rd week after the week you took your exam and always on Wednsday of this week (this is either the 3rd or the 4th Wednsday after your exam date)
 
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Med 3 NBMEs:
Surgery: 85%, ObGyn: 81%
Psych: 90%, Neurology: 86% IM: 85%
Pediatrics: 90%, Family Med: 85%

I used Anki decks that I found online for the clerkship but usually stopped doing the cards after the clerkship.

During med 3, I completed all of my UWorld questions for the respective clerkship. On weekends, I would do one block of random questions from all subjects to keep my learning broad. Importantly, I marked only correct questions that I thought were complicated or I did not know all of the answer choices. I marked none of the incorrect questions. This kept my completed questions in two separate pools.

At the end of med 3, my first pass UWorld score was 72% correct. My average for the first three months was closer to 65%, but this steadily improved. By the end of med 3, I had marked about 600 questions. In February, I also opened a Kaplan Qbank to supplement my learning on topic-specific questions, but I only used about 200 questions by May.

Dedicated Studying.

I completed all of my incorrect questions on Uworld at a rate of ~70-75% correct. I marked only correct questions that I did not fully feel comfortable with. Then I completed my "Marked Correct" questions (~75-80%). I then finished any last incorrect questions that came from completing the ~600 "Marked Correct" questions. Only then did I reset the question bank, ~15 days before my Step 2 exam. I took a 5-day break from the Uworld Qbank and exclusively focused on the Kaplan Q-bank at about 65-75% correct.

In the final 5 days before my exam, I did Uworld all, random, timed and was scoring >90% correct each block. By this point, most questions seemed easy and I was finishing blocks with >20minutes to spare, but I was also recognizing questions from previous attempts. I knew the Uworld Qbank so well that these questions were diminishing margins of return, so I decided to devote more time to my Kaplan Qbank where I was scoring around 70% instead. I continued Zanki cards (~300/day) throughout this.

STATS
Step 1: 252
(2013 before PhD)
Uworld first pass: 72%
Uworld (after reset): 93%
(only 400 questions completed)
Kaplan 2CK: 70% (only 800 questions completed)

Free 120Q: 85% (August)
UWSA1: 260 (October 7th)
UWSA2: 252 (October 20th)
NBME8: 259 (October 24th)

Actual STEP 2 CK: 267 (Oct 28th)
  • Worst subjects: MSK/Skin/SoftTissue, Female Reproductive
  • Best subjects: Immunology (PhD on this subject), Nervous system (matching into NSG)
How much dedicated time did I devote to Step 2CK?

Approximately 4 weeks of interrupted time. I studied Uworld in between neurosurgery subinternships throughout the summer. After my final subinternship, I was looking forward to 3 weeks of dedicated preparation, but October interviews interrupted my second week of studying. I originally planned to take Step 2CK on October 31st (Halloween), but I got an interview invite for that day so 7 days before my planned Step 2CK, I moved UP the exam by 3 days so I could make the interview. That was stressful, but I knew I was ready to do well. I only sacrificed a few days on Zanki and probably ~320 Uworld and Kaplan questions.​

TL/DR: Mark your correct answers but do NOT mark your incorrect answers. Kaplan Qbank is a decent secondary resource once you master Uworld. I over-performed from my practice exams.

AMA. Good luck!
 
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Med 3 NBMEs:
Surgery: 85%, ObGyn: 81%
Psych: 90%, Neurology: 86% IM: 85%
Pediatrics: 90%, Family Med: 85%

I used Anki decks that I found online for the clerkship but usually stopped doing the cards after the clerkship.

During med 3, I completed all of my UWorld questions for the respective clerkship. On weekends, I would do one block of random questions from all subjects to keep my learning broad. Importantly, I marked only correct questions that I thought was complicated or I did not know all of the answer choices. I marked none of the incorrect questions. This kept my completed questions in two separate pools.

At the end of med 3, my first pass UWorld score was 72% correct. My average for the first three months was closer to 65%, but this steadily improved. By the end of med 3, I had marked about 600 questions. In February, I also opened a Kaplan Qbank to supplement my learning on topic-specific questions, but I only used about 200 questions by May.

Dedicated Studying.

I completed all of my incorrect questions on Uworld at a rate of ~70-75% correct. I marked only correct questions that I did not fully feel comfortable with. Then I completed my "Marked Correct" questions (~75-80%). I then finished any last incorrect questions that came from completing the ~600 "Marked Correct" questions. Only then did I reset the question bank, ~15 days before my Step 2 exam. I took a 5-day break from the Uworld Qbank and exclusively focused on the Kaplan Q-bank at about 65-75% correct.

In the final 5 days before my exam, I did Uworld all, random, timed and was scoring >90% correct each block. By this point, most questions seemed easy and I was finishing blocks with >20minutes to spare, but I was also recognizing questions from previous attempts. I knew the Uworld Qbank so well that these questions were diminishing margins of return, so I decided to devote more time to my Kaplan Qbank where I was scoring around 70% instead. I continued Zanki cards (~300/day) throughout this.

STATS
Step 1: 252
(2013 before PhD)
Uworld first pass: 72%
Uworld (after reset): 93%
(only 400 questions completed)
Kaplan 2CK: 70% (only 800 questions completed)

Free 120Q: 85% (August)
UWSA1: 260 (October 7th)
UWSA2: 252 (October 20th)
NBME8: 259 (October 24th)

Actual STEP 2 CK: 267 (Oct 28th)
  • Worst subjects: MSK/Skin/SoftTissue, Female Reproductive
  • Best subjects: Immunology (PhD on this subject), Nervous system (matching into NSG)
How much dedicated time did I devote to Step 2CK?

Approximately 4 weeks of interrupted time. I studied Uworld in between neurosurgery subinternships throughout the summer. After my final subinternship, I was looking forward to 3 weeks of dedicated preparation, but October interviews interrupted my second week of studying. I originally planned to take Step 2CK on October 31st (Halloween), but I got an interview invite for that day so 7 days before my planned Step 2CK, I moved UP the exam by 3 days so I could make the interview. That was stressful, but I knew I was ready to do well. I only sacrificed a few days on Zanki and probably ~320 Uworld and Kaplan questions.​

TL/DR: Mark your correct answers but do NOT mark your incorrect answers. Kaplan Qbank is a decent secondary resource once you master Uworld. I over-performed from my practice exams.

AMA. Good luck!
Would you mind sharing how you felt after the exam. I traditontraly score well but I know I missed at least 15 on my exam and probably more. Pretty anxious to see my final acore.
 

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Would you mind sharing how you felt after the exam. I traditontraly score well but I know I missed at least 15 on my exam and probably more. Pretty anxious to see my final acore.
Sure.

Day of Exam

I took the time to complete the 15-minute manual. This cut into my break-time but calmed my nerves and I got comfortable with the chair, desk, software, and testing environment. Silence is important to me, so I checked that I could wear ear-plugs and still hear the headset sounds (ie for heart auscultation questions). Clicking the mouse to cross-out answers was harder than on Uworld software. Annoying! I probably wasted a cumulative 3 minutes throughout the exam just trying to strike-out wrong answers.

I did three blocks in a row and felt my concentration was fatiguing toward the end of the third block, so I took a 20-minute break to go to the bathroom and eat (grapes, red bull, protein bar). I did two more blocks then took a 10-minute break. One more block and took my final break with two more question blocks remaining. My energy drink helped me in my final break for the final two blocks. Have sufficient food.

I was able to finish each block with 6-20minutes to review, which was different from when I took Step One. I usually read the last sentence of the question first, and often I would also read the second-to-last sentence because on UWorld the critical, differentiating clue is commonly there. Then I would read the first sentence. Sometimes, just out of habit, if my eyes started reading the first line and the stem was short, I just kept reading.

I tend to overflag questions in UWorld. On the exam, my first section was easy; 4 questions were flagged at the end that I felt 50-50 on. The penultimate block one was my toughest and I must have flagged close to 20 question. That was the first and only block when I felt unsure about how my exam would turn out. Throughout the exam, I got the first of the paired questions correct, so that boosted my confidence. On Step 1, I remember missing the first of paired questions and then being hung up on it.

Walking out of the exam, I was confident that I scored at least within one standard deviation of my practice exams, so at least 240s, and estimated that I would be in mid 250s or maybe low 260s. I was mentally tired but also excited to be done, so I went home and stayed up until about 1AM trying to figure out if I got answers wrong or right. I was happy to find out I got a 267 right before Thanksgiving.
 
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It seems like people have been scoring below their UWSA 1-2 exams recently. Probably reporting bias like another poster stated earlier, but makes you wonder what is going on. Also, are scores released on the 3rd of 4th Wednesday?
is that true? Are uwsas not predictable theses days? And what could be the reason of reporting bias
 

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Took the exam on Nov 7th, my permit disappeared but not able to register for Dtep 3. Read somewhere about if you passed you would be able to register for step 3. Haven’t gotten my CS scores yet either, permit still there, took it October 24th. Does permit disappearing but not being able to register for step 3 mean anything?
 

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Took the exam on Nov 7th, my permit disappeared but not able to register for Dtep 3. Read somewhere about if you passed you would be able to register for step 3. Haven’t gotten my CS scores yet either, permit still there, took it October 24th. Does permit disappearing but not being able to register for step 3 mean anything?
Does not work if you haven't taken CS. Only works if it's the last exam preventing you from taking step 3. My pernit never disappeared for step 1 and I still got my score on the projected date (i.e. third Wednesday of a Saturday exam)
 
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Took mine nov 20th. Came out numb as well like i sleep walked through the exam lol. I don’t remember anything on it. Hoping I pass and do better than step 1
How u overall felt while taking exam. Im not asking about anything regarding exam,just what were your feeling about if it was doable . Im so scared idk. I didn’t have this feeling when i took step1.
In ck i feel like i was clicking answers without critical thinking
 

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Does not work if you haven't taken CS. Only works if it's the last exam preventing you from taking step 3. My pernit never disappeared for step 1 and I still got my score on the projected date (i.e. third Wednesday of a Saturday exam)
Can't apply for Step 3. Gave exam on Nov 10. Have passed Step 1, CS. I hope my result doesnt come tomorrow!
 
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How u overall felt while taking exam. Im not asking about anything regarding exam,just what were your feeling about if it was doable . Im so scared idk. I didn’t have this feeling when i took step1.
In ck i feel like i was clicking answers without critical thinking
Most of the questions, i had no idea what was going on in the vignettes. Was guessing 50-60% of time. Self assessment scores were very poor (211 and 214) so no encouragement there at all.
 
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Ok just received my score - 239 i‘m somewhat disappointed

UWSA1 252
NBME6 228
NBME7 220
NBME8 228
UWSA2 250

Obviously my score was somewhat between NBME and UWSA
 
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Most of the questions, i had no idea what was going on in the vignettes. Was guessing 50-60% of time. Self assessment scores were very poor (211 and 214) so no encouragement there at all.
Goodluck dear. I pray u pass with ur desired scores
 
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Ok just received my score - 239 i‘m somewhat disappointed

UWSA1 252
NBME6 228
NBME7 220
NBME8 228
UWSA2 250

Obviously my score was somewhat between NBME and UWSA
Congratulations u did it.
Can u plz share ur exam day experience, how u felt about exam day and questions? We’re questions doable?how many percentayu felt like u know what they’re asking? And how many percentage approx u had no idea
 
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Congratulations u did it.
Can u plz share ur exam day experience, how u felt about exam day and questions? We’re questions doable?how many percentayu felt like u know what they’re asking? And how many percentage approx u had no idea
Sure - I did onlinemeded and uworld. uworld first turn 64%, second turn 93%(did about 600 questions)
I also practiced doing 8 blocks (4 blocks uworld and a practice exam) a day a couple of times to see what the real thing feels... Despite that the exam itself was brutal... Did 2 blocks - 10mins break, 2 blocks 20mins break and then 10mins after each block...
 
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Sure - I did onlinemeded and uworld. uworld first turn 64%, second turn 93%(did about 600 questions)
I also practiced doing 8 blocks (4 blocks uworld and a practice exam) a day a couple of times to see what the real thing feels... Despite that the exam itself was brutal... Did 2 blocks - 10mins break, 2 blocks 20mins break and then 10mins after each block...
Congratulations! It wasn't easy!

You finished uworld before dedicated time? And how long was your dedicated time?
 
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Ok just received my score - 239 i‘m somewhat disappointed

UWSA1 252
NBME6 228
NBME7 220
NBME8 228
UWSA2 250

Obviously my score was somewhat between NBME and UWSA
Congrats on getting that brutal exam done with! Do you mind sharing when you took the exam and if they emailed you about your score becoming available? I thought scores were released 11am EST.
 

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Congrats on getting that brutal exam done with! Do you mind sharing when you took the exam and if they emailed you about your score becoming available? I thought scores were released 11am EST.
I'm resigning myself to the fact scores might be releasing next week. I got my step 1 and cs scores at 8:30 EST. I gave my CK on Nov 10 (saturday). But maybe it comes at different times for different people.
 
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Congrats on getting that brutal exam done with! Do you mind sharing when you took the exam and if they emailed you about your score becoming available? I thought scores were released 11am EST.
I think there is no fixed time on the release day - I received Step1 and 2 both at around 8am but I heard from people getting them around 11am too.

And for the other questions - I didn't really have much of a dedicated period - I'm an IMG, used to be a resident in Europe and now I'm working in research full time in the US at the moment which makes it easier to prepare for the steps. I tried to study about 4 hours per day (2 early in the morning 2 at night), used my weekends to practice full length exams and then I took 1 week off before the exam. My whole study period must've been around 5 months.
I took my exam on November 8th and I guess over the weekend my permit disappeared.