Official 2019 Step 2 CK Experiences and Scores Thread

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General Surgery
Step 1 245-250

I think you (and all of us) will be fine. This test isn’t weighted like step 1 and everyone says it feels awful to take the exam itself.

Plus, in that range of step 1 you’ll have no trouble in gen surg!
 
You are more than fine! If someone like you with that Step 1 score needs to worry, then there is no hope for us lowly folks with Step 1 score in the low 230's or below.

Sigh. Don't say lowly... I have my opinions about this system, which I will keep to myself, but you know. Don't know what I'm saying other than good vibes to you and thank you for the reassurance.
 
I took CK at the end of July. As I am waiting for the results at the end of Aug, I have become increasingly worried in the past week. I know it is a common feeling that most folks feel like they fail after they take the test (but most still turn out ok when the scores come in). But my problem is not that I felt I failed. Quite the contrary, I felt it wasn’t that bad as I walked out of the center. Now that I think about it, maybe that’s because I screwed up so bad that I didn’t even know I messed up. Anyone who felt ok with the test and scores fine at the end?

SAME! I felt I was answering another UW block and I was averaging 70-85 on second pass (77% average). One block was out of this world, but all others were normal. Even had a couple of questions from the free 120 and one from an nbme. Now, just like you, I’m worried that I just truly messed up.
 
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SAME! I felt I was answering another UW block and I was averaging 70-85 on second pass (77% average). One block was out of this world, but all others were normal. Even had a couple of questions from the free 120 and one from an nbme. Now, just like you, I’m worried that I just truly messed up.

I vote that it was that you killed the thing. I was underprepared. I knew I was going in, it was even clearer walking out of the test.
 
Just took the test today. Feel like I got run over by a freight train. It didn't even feel like the question stems or descriptions were super vague, I felt like I knew what was going on in most of them, but I had an incredibly hard time picking between 2-3 answer choices for what seemed like half the testl. There were so many questions where I just for the life of me couldn't figure out whether medical management vs surgery was best, or which of the 5 lifestyle management options were the best one. I've already counted a few questions I got wrong that I had the right answer originally and then panicked and switched to the wrong one for no good reason. Overall, just hoping it went okay and that I got around my practice test scores
 
Just took the test today. Feel like I got run over by a freight train. It didn't even feel like the question stems or descriptions were super vague, I felt like I knew what was going on in most of them, but I had an incredibly hard time picking between 2-3 answer choices for what seemed like half the testl. There were so many questions where I just for the life of me couldn't figure out whether medical management vs surgery was best, or which of the 5 lifestyle management options were the best one. I've already counted a few questions I got wrong that I had the right answer originally and then panicked and switched to the wrong one for no good reason. Overall, just hoping it went okay and that I got around my practice test scores
Exactly how I felt. Only one more week until I finally get my score. After waiting 7 weeks, I don't really care what it is as long as I pass.
 
How early is the FSMB “trick” suppose to work? (Sunday... Monday?)

Took the test on Aug/09. Next Wednesday will be 3.5 weeks for me.

Good luck to everyone!
 
Hi everyone,
Need your urgent help!
Did the first pass of Uworld with 73%
Took self assessment 1 afterwards,got 254
I just finished doing my incorrect questions.
scheduled my exam for August 31st (before I start studying)
I was thinking about taking self assessment 2 and then decide if I should postpone according to the score but I'm so skeptical now 🙁
I don't know if it's a good idea to activate the self assessment although I don't feel prepared enough and even if I get a good score can I rely on that?!
I'd appreciate your opinion.
PS: IMG,aiming for 250+
 
Hi everyone,
Need your urgent help!
Did the first pass of Uworld with 73%
Took self assessment 1 afterwards,got 254
I just finished doing my incorrect questions.
scheduled my exam for August 31st (before I start studying)
I was thinking about taking self assessment 2 and then decide if I should postpone according to the score but I'm so skeptical now 🙁
I don't know if it's a good idea to activate the self assessment although I don't feel prepared enough and even if I get a good score can I rely on that?!
I'd appreciate your opinion.
PS: IMG,aiming for 250+

Having a score above your target before you start studying makes me think you’ll do well on the exam. Studying rarely makes it worse!

When was this assessment taken? Have you been studying since?
 
Having a score above your target before you start studying makes me think you’ll do well on the exam. Studying rarely makes it worse!

When was this assessment taken? Have you been studying since?
Thank you for your response 🙂
I took it nearly 3 weeks ago and I've been studying since.
The reason I'm worried is that I've heard that self assessment 1 overestimates the score.
 
Thank you for your response 🙂
I took it nearly 3 weeks ago and I've been studying since.
The reason I'm worried is that I've heard that self assessment 1 overestimates the score.

Hmm, well from the reddit correlations it looks like it’s usually pretty close. Regardless if you only took the one test then you should probably take another one.

I think all of them underestimate, just a question of how much.
 
Hi everyone,
Need your urgent help!
Did the first pass of Uworld with 73%
Took self assessment 1 afterwards,got 254
I just finished doing my incorrect questions.
scheduled my exam for August 31st (before I start studying)
I was thinking about taking self assessment 2 and then decide if I should postpone according to the score but I'm so skeptical now 🙁
I don't know if it's a good idea to activate the self assessment although I don't feel prepared enough and even if I get a good score can I rely on that?!
I'd appreciate your opinion.
PS: IMG,aiming for 250+
I am honestly baffled by how many people come on SDN who are scoring in the 250's and 260's either on practice exams or the real exam... yet are disappointed with their scores, feel unprepared, have feelings of inadequacy, and have a sense of impending doom as if their careers are shattered. Are you guys not aware that scoring in the 250's and higher places you among the top 30% of medical students in the WORLD?! I can't think of any specialty in which a score of 250 would eliminate you from contention (perhaps in Derm, Ortho, & Plastics you would just be "average" which is still phenomenal considering the quality of candidates that go into those fields). You guys should be proud of yourselves and filled with confidence that you've accomplished a very special feat that very few people in our line of work ever achieve! Not depressed and filled with anxiety. Seriously, come onnnn people!! lol

Anyway, now that my rant is out of the way. In regards to your question... I just took CK two months ago and I scored similarly to you on both my UWORLD self-assessments. My advice to you is this:

1) The UWORLD practice exams are the best predictive metric available to us at this moment. They appear to have a good track record of predicting the real score FOR MOST PEOPLE. Of course there will be outliers, but that is just how life goes. No predictive measure is perfect. Test day performance is important - some people freak out on test day and abandon the entire plan and strategy they have practiced for months and under perform. Others will get lucky with a favorable test form that tests to all their strengths, and be on point with all their guesses; they will over perform. We can't predict these things. But for the most part, many will agree that your real CK score will most likely fall in a range between the average of the two UWORLD self-assessments + or - 10 points. If you can live with any score in that range then you are ready and you should take the exam.

2) You absolutely should activate UWORLD self-assessment 2 and take it. Don't ever save resources for "fear of wasting the resource too soon." So many people do this (and I used to do this same kind of thing back in the day), but it really is a terrible strategy. If you ultimately decide to delay your exam for whatever reason then you can retake them at a later time. But you should not be preparing with the mindset of "I might delay" because this gives yourself an excuse to not work hard and power through this last week before the real thing! Rather, you should be aggressive and do what you can to stick with your planned schedule. Only delay if absolutely necessary (this is quite subjective and depends on your goals and target score obviously... in my opinion 254 is a great score and you are performing well, but in your opinion you might feel that 250s is inadequate for your career goals... so it's really your call). I'd say 3-4 days before the real exam is a good time to take the last practice exam. How else can you know if your 254 on the first practice exam is just a fluke or a legit score without taking multiple practice tests? If you are able to score in the 250s again on UWORLD self-assessment 2 then you will have displayed consistency, and this is compelling evidence that you are ready for the real thing.

3) Regardless of how much you study or how prepared/under-prepared you feel at this moment in time, I can assure you that the real Step 2 CK will feel extremely challenging, exhausting, frustrating, and deflating. There is no way around this! Just expect to get upset and go through a roller coaster of emotions on test day. I already took the exam and I've seen the questions. If they offered me the opportunity to take it again I don't think I would change anything about how I prepared and I don't think I would be able to change my score by much. I can't even think of any resource I could use that would help me answer the difficult questions with any less difficulty. The test writers are masters of their craft and they have an uncanny ability to structure questions in a manner that forces us to make difficult clinical decisions and use our best clinical judgement to answer questions rather than regurgitating memorized facts. The purpose of this exam is to assess clinical decision making/judgement ability and critical thinking skills, not memorization ability. Once you accept this fact, you will not feel anxiety about not knowing every word in First Aid, MTB, or UWORLD explanations. Rather, you should adopt the mindset of "I am going to be faced with a bunch of scenarios i'm unsure about, all the facts I've memorized over the past couple months of studying are my toolbox that I am allowed to bring with me to the test, and I will use the tools I have to come up with educated and plausible solutions to these wacky scenarios to the best of my ability." And then you just live with the results, not much more you can do.

The question stems I thought were pretty straight forward (very similar to UWORLD self-assessments) and most of the time I knew the condition/disease the patient has... however, the difficult questions (and most people will agree with me) are difficult because:

a) 2 or 3 answer choices will all seem plausible as managements and you have never had to decide between those 3 things before. So you are forced to guess.

or

b) you will be reading a question and get all excited because you totally know this disease and you are positive about how to treat/manage the condition and then you get to the answers and BOOM, the answer you want is not even an option! Once again forced to guess.

or

c) you read the question and/or read the answers and have no freakin' idea what the hell they are talking about. Guess and move on. Although I must say this scenario happens much less on Step 2CK compared to Step 1.

UWORLD was absolute gold for Step 2 CK and you will be able to answer about 70% of the real exam confidently from UWORLD explanations. The other 30% of the test, unfortunately, you will be dealing with the three difficult scenarios I listed above. No way around this, that's just the nature of the beast.
 
I am honestly baffled by how many people come on SDN who are scoring in the 250's and 260's either on practice exams or the real exam... yet are disappointed with their scores, feel unprepared, have feelings of inadequacy, and have a sense of impending doom as if their careers are shattered. Are you guys not aware that scoring in the 250's and higher places you among the top 30% of medical students in the WORLD?! I can't think of any specialty in which a score of 250 would eliminate you from contention (perhaps in Derm, Ortho, & Plastics you would just be "average" which is still phenomenal considering the quality of candidates that go into those fields). You guys should be proud of yourselves and filled with confidence that you've accomplished a very special feat that very few people in our line of work ever achieve! Not depressed and filled with anxiety. Seriously, come onnnn people!! lol

Anyway, now that my rant is out of the way. In regards to your question... I just took CK two months ago and I scored similarly to you on both my UWORLD self-assessments. My advice to you is this:

1) The UWORLD practice exams are the best predictive metric available to us at this moment. They appear to have a good track record of predicting the real score FOR MOST PEOPLE. Of course there will be outliers, but that is just how life goes. No predictive measure is perfect. Test day performance is important - some people freak out on test day and abandon the entire plan and strategy they have practiced for months and under perform. Others will get lucky with a favorable test form that tests to all their strengths, and be on point with all their guesses; they will over perform. We can't predict these things. But for the most part, many will agree that your real CK score will most likely fall in a range between the average of the two UWORLD self-assessments + or - 10 points. If you can live with any score in that range then you are ready and you should take the exam.

2) You absolutely should activate UWORLD self-assessment 2 and take it. Don't ever save resources for "fear of wasting the resource too soon." So many people do this (and I used to do this same kind of thing back in the day), but it really is a terrible strategy. If you ultimately decide to delay your exam for whatever reason then you can retake them at a later time. But you should not be preparing with the mindset of "I might delay" because this gives yourself an excuse to not work hard and power through this last week before the real thing! Rather, you should be aggressive and do what you can to stick with your planned schedule. Only delay if absolutely necessary (this is quite subjective and depends on your goals and target score obviously... in my opinion 254 is a great score and you are performing well, but in your opinion you might feel that 250s is inadequate for your career goals... so it's really your call). I'd say 3-4 days before the real exam is a good time to take the last practice exam. How else can you know if your 254 on the first practice exam is just a fluke or a legit score without taking multiple practice tests? If you are able to score in the 250s again on UWORLD self-assessment 2 then you will have displayed consistency, and this is compelling evidence that you are ready for the real thing.

3) Regardless of how much you study or how prepared/under-prepared you feel at this moment in time, I can assure you that the real Step 2 CK will feel extremely challenging, exhausting, frustrating, and deflating. There is no way around this! Just expect to get upset and go through a roller coaster of emotions on test day. I already took the exam and I've seen the questions. If they offered me the opportunity to take it again I don't think I would change anything about how I prepared and I don't think I would be able to change my score by much. I can't even think of any resource I could use that would help me answer the difficult questions with any less difficulty. The test writers are masters of their craft and they have an uncanny ability to structure questions in a manner that forces us to make difficult clinical decisions and use our best clinical judgement to answer questions rather than regurgitating memorized facts. The purpose of this exam is to assess clinical decision making/judgement ability and critical thinking skills, not memorization ability. Once you accept this fact, you will not feel anxiety about not knowing every word in First Aid, MTB, or UWORLD explanations. Rather, you should adopt the mindset of "I am going to be faced with a bunch of scenarios i'm unsure about, all the facts I've memorized over the past couple months of studying are my toolbox that I am allowed to bring with me to the test, and I will use the tools I have to come up with educated and plausible solutions to these wacky scenarios to the best of my ability." And then you just live with the results, not much more you can do.

The question stems I thought were pretty straight forward (very similar to UWORLD self-assessments) and most of the time I knew the condition/disease the patient has... however, the difficult questions (and most people will agree with me) are difficult because:

a) 2 or 3 answer choices will all seem plausible as managements and you have never had to decide between those 3 things before. So you are forced to guess.

or

b) you will be reading a question and get all excited because you totally know this disease and you are positive about how to treat/manage the condition and then you get to the answers and BOOM, the answer you want is not even an option! Once again forced to guess.

or

c) you read the question and/or read the answers and have no freakin' idea what the hell they are talking about. Guess and move on. Although I must say this scenario happens much less on Step 2CK compared to Step 1.

UWORLD was absolute gold for Step 2 CK and you will be able to answer about 70% of the real exam confidently from UWORLD explanations. The other 30% of the test, unfortunately, you will be dealing with the three difficult scenarios I listed above. No way around this, that's just the nature of the beast.
Truly well said
I really appreciate your time and the honest and amazingly in-depth response
Best of luck to you
 
Oh god. Took CK today. The WORST experience in my life. Holy moly! Half of the things being tested were either really easy or really hard. And some descriptions for SIMPLE things were so vague. Like we know 1+1 is 2 but the description would be like the two straight sticks and a cross make what? Oh my god. I failed and I know it. Need a drink. brb
 
Per the announcement, I know the tests over summer will he released on 8/28, but when are tests being taken now expected to result?

Any word if that will be 3-4 weeks or longer?
 
Oh god. Took CK today. The WORST experience in my life. Holy moly! Half of the things being tested were either really easy or really hard. And some descriptions for SIMPLE things were so vague. Like we know 1+1 is 2 but the description would be like the two straight sticks and a cross make what? Oh my god. I failed and I know it. Need a drink. brb

This is for sure how you expect to feel for this test, don’t worry!!! People get 270 and still feel exactly how you do right now after taking it, it’s an unpleasant experience for sure.

Trust the practice scores and prep you did!
 
Oh god. Took CK today. The WORST experience in my life. Holy moly! Half of the things being tested were either really easy or really hard. And some descriptions for SIMPLE things were so vague. Like we know 1+1 is 2 but the description would be like the two straight sticks and a cross make what? Oh my god. I failed and I know it. Need a drink. brb
This is exactly how I felt after the exam .. just an awful feeling ! ... results will be released the coming Wednesday.. lets hope for the passing scores !!! Finger crossed!
 
Per the announcement, I know the tests over summer will he released on 8/28, but when are tests being taken now expected to result?

Any word if that will be 3-4 weeks or longer?

I think they’re back to a 3-4 week schedule again, I can’t find anything to the contrary.
 
High 240s on Step 1, with high 250s on UWSA 1, low 250s on NBME 7, 93% on Free 120, and high 240s on UWSA 2 (scary), took Step 2 mid-July so we’re down to the wire boys and girls! Feeling pretty bad since I wasn’t nearly as certain of my answers as last year but I’m constantly reminding myself I felt bad coming out of Step 1 and Level 1 as well, so hoping for the best.
 
Took CK in July (previously took CS), today am eligible on FSMB to register for step 3! Also permit disappeared. Just a few more days to wait, but seems like a good sign!
 
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Took CK in July (previously took CS), today am eligible on FSMB to register for step 3! Also permit disappeared. Just a few more days to wait, but seems like a good sign!

Well crap, I took mine end of June. Permit has disappeared but I'm currently not eligible to register for step 3 -- hoping this does not equate to a fail :whistle:
 
Well crap, I took mine end of June. Permit has disappeared but I'm currently not eligible to register for step 3 -- hoping this does not equate to a fail :whistle:
I'm in the same boat - took CK early in July though. Also took CS about the same time and don't have a score yet, so I'm guessing that is why I'm not eligible for step 3... hopefully.
 
I'm in the same boat - took CK early in July though. Also took CS about the same time and don't have a score yet, so I'm guessing that is why I'm not eligible for step 3... hopefully.

Oh yeah, kind of forgot about CS. Since I took the DO version, I'll probably never technically be eligible for step 3 as I'm just planning on taking level 3. Let's go with that....
 
Thats what mine looks like now
 

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