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With applications opening tomorrow, I thought I would start off the official thread for those of us looking to match to pediatric dentistry residency programs on *January 24th, 2022*

Good luck to everyone!

**Previous Threads:
2021 Cycle
2020 Cycle
2019 Cycle
2018 Cycle
2017 Cycle

**UPDATED 12/28/2021**
Once you get an invite please post a comment with the following info: what date the invite went out, how it was sent (phone call or email), what the offered interview dates are, and how the interviews will be held (in-person, virtual, or both).

Example from last year: UNLV - (email sent 9/18) Dates: 10/12 and 10/13 via zoom

I'll update this main list as invites pop up so we can have a central reference at the start of the thread.


Bon Secours St. Mary’s Hospital - (email sent 9/20) virtual interviews: 10/29, 11/1, 11/5
Boston University - (email sent 10/26) virtual interviews: 11/9, 11/16, 11/23
Bronxcare Health System - (phone call 10/19) in-person interviews: 11/8, 11/22
Case Western Reserve University - (email sent 9/2 and 9/8) in-person interviews: 10/3-10/4; 10/17-10/18
Children's Hospital Boston/Harvard - (email sent 11/9) virtual interview: 12/3
Children’s Hospital Colorado - (email sent 9/28) virtual interview: 11/1
Children's Hospital of Michigan - (email sent 9/22) in-person interview: 10/19
Children’s Hospital Pittsburgh - (email sent 9/27) in-person interviews: 10/18, 10/22, 11/1
Children's Hospital of Wisconsin - (phone calls 10/11, 10/13) virtual interviews: 11/12, 11/19, 11/16, 12/3, 12/10
Children's Mercy Hospitals and Clinics - (email sent 9/17) virtual interview: 10/11
Children’s National in DC - (email sent 10/26) virtual interviews: 11/11, 11/15
Cincinnati Children’s Hospital - (phone call 10/5) virtual interview: 11/8, 11/15
Columbia University - (email sent 11/10) virtual interviews: 12/8, 12/9, 12/15
Denver Health Medical Center - (email sent 10/6) virtual interviews: 10/28, 11/5, 11/6
East Carolina University - (email sent 9/28) virtual interviews: 10/13, 10/20, 11/10
Geisinger Medical Center - (email sent 9/28) virtual interviews: 10/15, 10/21
Hennepin County Medical Center - (email sent 9/2 and 10/6) virtual interviews: 10/21, 11/8, 11/11
Howard University - (email sent 10/6) virtual interview: 11/4
Indiana University - (email sent 10/6) virtual interviews: 11/12, 11/15
Jacobi Medical Center - (email sent 10/27) in-person interviews: 11/15, 11/16, 11/22
Jamaica Hospital - NO INFO
Loma Linda University - NO INFO
Louisiana State University - (email sent 10/12) in-person interviews: 11/11, 11/12
Lurie Children’s Hospital - (phone call 10/25) virtual interviews: 11/16, 12/1
Maimonides Medical Center - (email sent 11/15) virtual interviews: 12/8, 12/9
Medical University of South Carolina - (email sent 9/30) virtual interview: 10/25, 11/8
Montefiore Medical Center - (email sent 10/19) virtual interviews: 10/25, 10/28, 11/1, 11/4, 11/8, 11/9, 11/16, 11/18, 11/26, 11/29, 12/2
Nemours/A.I. duPont Hospital for Children - (email sent 10/5) virtual interview: 10/26
New York University - (email sent 9/29) virtual interviews: 11/1, 11/10
Nicklaus Children's Hospital - (phone call 9/22) virtual interview: 10/20
Nova Southeastern University- (phone call 9/24) virtual interview: 10/8
NYU Langone- Baltimore, MD - (email sent 11/4) virtual interview: 11/15
NYU Langone- Boston, MA - (email sent 10/26) virtual interviews: 12/5
NYU Langone- Brooklyn, NY - (email sent 10/8) virtual interviews: 11/2, 11/3, 11/4
NYU Langone- Columbia, MO - (email sent 10/14) virtual interview: 10/28
NYU Langone- Nashville, TN - (email sent 10/5) virtual interview: 12/9
NYU Langone- Providence, RI - (email sent 10/21) virtual interview: 11/18
NYU Langone- San Diego, CA - (email sent 10/27, 10/28) virtual interview: 12/1
NYU Langone- Tampa, FL - (email sent 10/13, 10/14) virtual interviews: 11/8, 11/9
NYU Langone--Tucson, AZ - (phone call 10/5) virtual interviews: 10/26, 10/27
NYU Langone- Waianae, HI - (email sent 9/20) virtual interview: 10/5
NYU Langone- Yakima, WA - (email sent 10/1) virtual interview: 11/11
One Brooklyn Health (Brookdale, Interfaith, Kingsbrook) - (email sent 10/29) in-person interview: 12/1, 12/2, 12/3
Oregon Health & Science University - (email sent 11/5) virtual interviews: 11/15, 12/20
Primary Children's Hospital - (email sent 10/5) virtual interviews: Unknown
Rutgers University - (email sent 10/22) virtual interviews: 11/15, 11/16, 11/22, 11/23
Saint Louis University - (email sent 10/13) in-person interviews: 11/11 , 11/18
St. Barnabas Hospital - (email sent 10/20, 11/1) virtual interviews: 11/22, 12/20
St. Christopher's Hospital for Children - (email sent 10/22) in-person interview: 11/16
St. Joseph's Regional Medical Center - (email sent 11/17) virtual interviews: 12/1, 12/8
Staten Island University Hospital - (email sent 11/30) virtual interview: 12/12
Stony Brook University - (email sent 10/28) virtual interviews: 11/11, 11/18
Temple University Hospital - (email sent 10/20) virtual interviews: 10/26, 10/28, 11/4, 11/9, 11/16, 11/18, 11/23, 11/30, 12/2, 12/7, 12/9
Texas A&M - (phone call 10/28) in-person interviews: 12/1, 12/3
The Dental College of Georgia at Augusta University - (phone call 9/18) in-person interview: 10/19
The Mount Sinai Hospital - (email sent 11/30) virtual interviews: 12/13, 12/20
The Ohio State University - (phone call 10/5) virtual interviews: 12/6, 12/13
Tufts University - (email sent 10/18) virtual interview: 10/27
University at Buffalo - (email sent 10/26, 10/27) virtual interview: 11/13, 11/20, 12/11
University of Alabama at Birmingham - (email sent 9/8, 10/29) virtual interviews: 9/17, 11/19
University of British Columbia, Canada - NO INFO
University of California Los Angeles - (email sent 10/15) virtual interviews: 11/4, 11/5
University of California San Francisco (2-year track) - (email sent 10/8) virtual interview: 12/07
University of California San Francisco (3-year track) - (email sent 10/8) virtual interviews: 11/16, 11/30
University of Connecticut - (email sent 11/4) virtual interviews: 11/15, 11/22, 12/6, 12/13
University of Florida - Gainesville - (email sent 10/5) virtual interview: 11/12, 11/15
University of Florida - Naples - (email sent 10/7) virtual interviews: 11/18, 11/19
University of Illinois at Chicago - (phone calls 10/4, 10/5) in-person and virtual interviews: 10/12, 10/19, 10/26
University of Iowa - (phone call 10/7) virtual interviews: 10/30, 10/31
University of Kentucky - (email sent 10/29) virtual interviews: 12/2, 12/9
University of Louisville - (email sent 9/16) virtual interviews: 10/7, 10/15
University of Manitoba - (email sent 9/28) virtual interviews: 10/18, 10/19
University of Maryland - (email sent 11/15) in-person interviews: 12/7, 12/14
University of Michigan - (phone calls 10/4, 10/11) virtual interviews: 11/1, 11/2, 11/8, 11/9
University of Minnesota - (email sent 9/27) virtual interview: 11/8
University of Mississippi - (email sent 10/26) virtual interview: 11/12
University of Nebraska - (email sent 10/4) virtual interview: 11/8
University of Nevada Las Vegas - (email sent 9/21) in-person interview: 11/8
University of North Carolina - (phone call 9/13) virtual interview: 10/29
University of Pennsylvania - (email sent 10/15) virtual interviews: 11/10, 11/11, 11/12
University of Pittsburgh - (email sent 10/18) virtual interviews: 11/17
University of Puerto Rico - NO INFO
University of Rochester - (phone call 10/11) virtual interviews: 10/25, 11/1, 11/8, 11/15, 12/6
University of Southern California - (email sent 10/12) virtual interviews: 11/4, 11/11, 11/18, 12/2, 12/9
University of Tennessee - (email sent 10/4) in-person interview: 11/16
University of Texas - Houston - (email sent 10/4, 10/8) virtual interviews: 11/3, 11/4, 11/5
University of Texas - San Antonio - (phone call 10/12) virtual interview: 10/29
University of Toledo - (email sent 10/1) virtual interview: 10/14
University of Washington - (phone call 9/29) virtual interviews: 10/11, 10/25, 10/1
Virginia Commonwealth University - (email sent 9/29) in-person interviews: 10/25, 10/26
Woodhull Medical Center - (email sent 11/1) in-person interviews: 12/1, 12/2
Wyckoff Heights Medical Center - (email sent 12/9) virtual interview: 12/17
Yale New Haven Hospital - (email sent 10/26) virtual interviews: 11/15, 12/1
Zucker School of Medicine/Northwell Health/Cohen Children's - (email sent 10/4) virtual interview: 11/18
 
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Looking up all these programs/requirements on their own websites, AAPD, and ADEA, and any other place google brings up is horrrrrrrible....

I see some conflicting information for Stony Brook. Looks like some sites say they require "copy of diploma" now and other say its after acceptance. Also I SWEAR I saw that they listed a $100 supplemental fee but I cant find it now and nobody answers their phone, haha.

Anybody with any information?
 

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    Looking up all these programs/requirements on their own websites, AAPD, and ADEA, and any other place google brings up is horrrrrrrible....

    I see some conflicting information for Stony Brook. Looks like some sites say they require "copy of diploma" now and other say its after acceptance. Also I SWEAR I saw that they listed a $100 supplemental fee but I cant find it now and nobody answers their phone, haha.

    Anybody with any information?
    In my experience, the most reliable program requirements info can be found on the adea pass page for that school, followed by ADEA and or the program’s website if it’s clear they’ve updated their page recently. The AAPD pages are good for general info about programs, less reliable for the program’s requirements. Also, if you have specific questions, you can email the contact listed on these pages, it’s usually the program coordinator.
     
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    Hi guys,
    I have a question wondering if you guys can help., I would like to apply to few peds program in NY but I only have NC license ( graduated here) , can I even apply to any of the NY programs ? I graduated last year and been practicing here In NC since ..have done GPR nor any residencies
    Thank you
     

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    Hi guys,
    I have a question wondering if you guys can help., I would like to apply to few peds program in NY but I only have NC license ( graduated here) , can I even apply to any of the NY programs ? I graduated last year and been practicing here In NC since ..have done GPR nor any residencies
    Thank you

    How long have you been practicing? If it’s 2 years or more (at the time you apply for license), you could do license by “endorsement” (aka reciprocity).
     

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    How long have you been practicing? If it’s 2 years or more (at the time you apply for license), you could do license by “endorsement” (aka reciprocity).
    Oh shoot..I graduated last yr ( 2020) but didn't started working till October due to covid etc... so basically I can't apply to any of the ny based ones?
     

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    Oh shoot..I graduated last yr ( 2020) but didn't started working till October due to covid etc... so basically I can't apply to any of the ny based ones?
    Honestly I’m not an expert in NY licensure. But I believe you can use a limited license for residency.

    How many schools do people usually apply to?
    Depends on how competitive you are and how much you want to spend on application fees. I’ve heard as few as three and as many as 30.

    If you have a really strong application, you might only apply to a few schools, confident you’ll get interviews there. If (like me) you aren’t a traditional competitive applicant, you’d apply to more. (Last year I applied to 21, got 3 interviews, matched.)
     
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    Hi guys,
    I have a question wondering if you guys can help., I would like to apply to few peds program in NY but I only have NC license ( graduated here) , can I even apply to any of the NY programs ? I graduated last year and been practicing here In NC since ..have done GPR nor any residencies
    Thank you
    Yes, you can. Not doing a GPR doesn't affect your ability to apply to NYC Peds programs except Mt Sinai and Staten Island that require their applicants do a GPR first. When you're a resident in NYC, you'll work under your attending's license so they'll credential you for New York state specifically. The program usually takes care of it. You won't be able to moonlight though. Also after finishing a PGY-1 (aka your first year of peds residency) you can apply for a New York state license if you'd like, but you don't have to if you don't plan on moonlighting or sticking around New York after residency.
     
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    Yes, you can. Not doing a GPR doesn't affect your ability to apply to NYC Peds programs except Mt Sinai and Staten Island that require their applicants do a GPR first. When you're a resident in NYC, you'll work under your attending's license so they'll credential you for New York state specifically. The program usually takes care of it. You won't be able to moonlight though. Also after finishing a PGY-1 (aka your first year of peds residency) you can apply for a New York state license if you'd like, but you don't have to if you don't plan on moonlighting or sticking around New York after residency.
    Oh thank you so much!!!
     

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    How do I submit a photocopy or a notarized copy of my dental school diploma to programs that require it? Should we submit it during the application process or is this a requirement after acceptance? Thanks in advance!! :)
     

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    The programs that I am applying to (that require it) just asked for a PDF.

    However, I asked my notary friend and was told that a diploma original and copy and be brought in to a public notary and they will notarize the copy for you to send when they confirm it matches the original.

    Confirm with the school if they need it before or after acceptance (most are after).
     

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    The programs that I am applying to (that require it) just asked for a PDF.

    However, I asked my notary friend and was told that a diploma original and copy and be brought in to a public notary and they will notarize the copy for you to send when they confirm it matches the original.

    Confirm with the school if they need it before or after acceptance (most are after).
    Thanks so much for that detailed response! 🤗
     

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    Where would we submit a 2x2 photo if they don’t specify where to send it?
     

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    Where would we submit a 2x2 photo if they don’t specify where to send it?
    Some programs will specify that you send a jpeg to them directly. Otherwise, you can just put it on your CV/resume.
     
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    Where would we submit a 2x2 photo if they don’t specify where to send it?

    Agree with S_Diamond_DDS

    Check the PASS pages for the schools and call if they are not clear. I am going to send directly to the ones that specifically request it; however, I am placing a page at the end of my CV with a 2x2 style photograph.

    I think Columbia says to put it in the right hand corner of the CV front page... I will probably just hope they see it at the end because I hate the way it looks at the top right. :laugh:
     
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    Does anyone have any ideas if the interviews will be conducted virtually this year?
     

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    Does anyone have any ideas if the interviews will be conducted virtually this year?
    I've heard both options from different schools! Some schools have made it pretty apparent on ADEA PASS search engine that they are fully planning to do in-person interviews, but I've also heard other schools hint that their program is planning on doing another year of virtual interviews. (Which, I realize, kind of answers nothing, haha). I think a lot of it will depend on what state each program is in, whether or not they're hospital-based / how strict the hospital is about visitors, etc. etc. etc. Who knows what will happen in the next few months!
     
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    In the ADEA PASS Application, where is everybody putting their virtual externship experiences? I'm having a hard time justifying putting them under Healthcare Experience or Dental Experience because many of them were more Q&A sessions instead of having any sort of "patient care" or "patient interaction" aspect... but I also feel like Extracurricular Activity is too broad of a descriptor for something so pediatric-dental-related. I'm definitely putting way too much thought into this, haha, any feedback would be appreciated!
     

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    In the ADEA PASS Application, where is everybody putting their virtual externship experiences? I'm having a hard time justifying putting them under Healthcare Experience or Dental Experience because many of them were more Q&A sessions instead of having any sort of "patient care" or "patient interaction" aspect... but I also feel like Extracurricular Activity is too broad of a descriptor for something so pediatric-dental-related. I'm definitely putting way too much thought into this, haha, any feedback would be appreciated!

    I'm not putting it. I am only entering it in the school-specific questions when possible. Other schools don't really leave an area and I agree with you that the areas provided in PASS are too specific to put "virtual externship".
     
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    Through ADEA PASS Search Engine, when a program lists "Must contact program for additional requirements: Yes", are we meant to make contact with the programs themselves and ask if there is any additional information they need beyond what is listed on the various websites?
     

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    Through ADEA PASS Search Engine, when a program lists "Must contact program for additional requirements: Yes", are we meant to make contact with the programs themselves and ask if there is any additional information they need beyond what is listed on the various websites?
    No, a lot of programs said yes to that. I believe it was just meant to imply that if you have futher questions about the requirements to contact the program or that there are more requirements but it’s only relevant if you match.
     
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    good luck to all of you applying this cycle, current entering pgy1 message me if you have any questions !
     

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    good luck to all of you applying this cycle, current entering pgy1 message me if you have any questions !

    I have a question. For the schools this year that are offering virtual OR in-person interviews (we can choose one or the other), is it just a better idea to go to the school?

    For in-person interviews, I feel like we get to offer a better impression to more people than the limited people that see your virtual interview.... But, maybe you had a different opinion and I can save money, haha!
     

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    I have a question. For the schools this year that are offering virtual OR in-person interviews (we can choose one or the other), is it just a better idea to go to the school?

    For in-person interviews, I feel like we get to offer a better impression to more people than the limited people that see your virtual interview.... But, maybe you had a different opinion and I can save money, haha!
    I think it depends on your personal preferences, some people perform better and are more comfortable on zoom, and likewise some are better in person, further it depends on if you are comfortable or not seeing the place to make a choice for ranking, I wouldn't worry too much about the money although it doesn't hurt to think save money, think about it this way, you already spend so much on the app process, and prospectively this could be where you live for the next two years, and learn arguably the most important part of your training, its an investment, and if seeing the place and spending the extra money helps you decide and get the best result its worth it imo, however, if you dont need to go, it is also good to save money, I liked zoom interviews, but seeing the physical clincs is nice as well
     
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    does anyone know if is there an actual character limit on the personal statement?
     

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    does anyone know if is there an actual character limit on the personal statement?
    If I remember right, the ADEA has a section of their website that discusses the personal essay and it specifies that it should not be more than 5,200 characters (including spaces).
     

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    I uploaded mine in the section for unofficial transcripts. I have run into schools that require them to be sent directly after acceptance though...

    But, if you are just applying to schools that do not require the transcripts then you wouldn't have to upload anything.
     
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    Hey! So I am debating whether to apply to this ... but probably the next cycle.
    Background info - been a GP for 7 years now. Been gravitating towards Pedo through the years and I am just starting to look into the ADEA and all the different programs and requirements.

    I would preferably like to stay in Houston unless another program is absolutely amazing and worth it.

    I am trying to
    1. parse through programs - is the best way to search programs and see their websites for what they offer? Most of them sound very similar in terms of experiences so I would rather get first hand knowledge from current residents. I tried seeing if there is any commentary on Houston Pedo school and didnt see anything so I wasnt sure if people talk about their respective residencies on here? (I know some residents may not want to share the not so good stuff since it may be traced back to them due to limited class sizes).
    2. any non traditional applicants here? GP --> Pedo. Is that seen as a pro or con by schools? I would think real world experience would only be beneficial... but again, just testing the waters here!

    Any and all advice would be welcome! Good luck to all applicants :)
     
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    Hey! So I am debating whether to apply to this ... but probably the next cycle.
    Background info - been a GP for 7 years now. Been gravitating towards Pedo through the years and I am just starting to look into the ADEA and all the different programs and requirements.

    I would preferably like to stay in Houston unless another program is absolutely amazing and worth it.

    I am trying to
    1. parse through programs - is the best way to search programs and see their websites for what they offer? Most of them sound very similar in terms of experiences so I would rather get first hand knowledge from current residents. I tried seeing if there is any commentary on Houston Pedo school and didnt see anything so I wasnt sure if people talk about their respective residencies on here? (I know some residents may not want to share the not so good stuff since it may be traced back to them due to limited class sizes).
    2. any non traditional applicants here? GP --> Pedo. Is that seen as a pro or con by schools? I would think real world experience would only be beneficial... but again, just testing the waters here!

    Any and all advice would be welcome! Good luck to all applicants :)
    Hi! I can't personally answer everything in your post - I'm a D4 at Texas A&M Baylor in Dallas, so I can't speak much to the resident/non-traditional perspective. BUT I do have some links you may find helpful!

    I totally agree that after a while, a lot of the programs start to sound the same. Something that helped me differentiate between programs was to read through the CODA requirements for all pedo programs (https://www.ada.org/~/media/coda/files/ped.pdf?la=en). It was helpful to know the bare minimum requirements because I was then able to better realize which areas each program focuses on going above and beyond in.

    Also, the AAPD website is a great resource as a centralized list of all of the pedo programs (AAPD | Residency Programs). While it isn't the most updated source out there, it still is helpful for getting a feel of which ones you may want to look more into (hospital vs university program, number of residents per class, stipend vs tuition, etc.).

    Finally, here's a link to some of the programs who are hosting virtual externships and open houses at this time (AAPD | 2021 Virtual Open Houses and Externships). You can also reach out to programs that you're interested in learning more about and ask if they are offering any virtual events where you can learn more about their program. San Antonio is actually hosting a virtual externship this evening at 6:00 PM - you can register using the link they have posted (I don't think it's too late to register, but I could be wrong). When you click on the link, you'll see that there are a ton of great programs across the country offering virtual externship opportunities, as well! Also, TAMCOD here in Dallas has just recently started to offer in-person observation days on Thursdays and Fridays. So, if you are able to take a day or two off from work, it may be worth making the 3.5 hour drive up north. I hope this helps!
     
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    Hey! So I am debating whether to apply to this ... but probably the next cycle.
    Background info - been a GP for 7 years now. Been gravitating towards Pedo through the years and I am just starting to look into the ADEA and all the different programs and requirements.

    I would preferably like to stay in Houston unless another program is absolutely amazing and worth it.

    I am trying to
    1. parse through programs - is the best way to search programs and see their websites for what they offer? Most of them sound very similar in terms of experiences so I would rather get first hand knowledge from current residents. I tried seeing if there is any commentary on Houston Pedo school and didnt see anything so I wasnt sure if people talk about their respective residencies on here? (I know some residents may not want to share the not so good stuff since it may be traced back to them due to limited class sizes).
    2. any non traditional applicants here? GP --> Pedo. Is that seen as a pro or con by schools? I would think real world experience would only be beneficial... but again, just testing the waters here!

    Any and all advice would be welcome! Good luck to all applicants :)

    When it comes down to it though... I think that schools just want to have a 100% boards pass rate and they are going to put very heavy consideration on grades and scores. If you have great grades and scores from dental school AND experience working in peds, then you are in good shape I would bet.
     
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    .....i LOVE you DrShortney and ToothDr. This is exactly the kind of resources/answers I was looking for. Much appreciated!

    Hahhahaah it has been so long that I dont even know how to use SDN anymore! My heart was pounding as I was reading last years Pedo thread LOL.
     
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    Typically for pedo, if you have private practice experience, it usually benefits you! Especially for hospital based pedo programs, they are usually more clinical heavy so there's less time to sit there and teach you everything. I know my program usually wanted a nice balance of new and experienced grads.

    I think Houston has a nice balance of didactic and clinical experience, lots of faculty members and of course the med center is a great resource. From what I can tell, most grads are well prepared for private practice. Did not go there for residency but for dental school so my perspective was mainly from my friends and being a dental student there.
     
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    Agree with S_Diamond_DDS

    Check the PASS pages for the schools and call if they are not clear. I am going to send directly to the ones that specifically request it; however, I am placing a page at the end of my CV with a 2x2 style photograph.

    I think Columbia says to put it in the right hand corner of the CV front page... I will probably just hope they see it at the end because I hate the way it looks at the top right. :laugh:
    Okay other question about Columbia... but on the ADEA PASS page it says unofficial scores in the CV....? What if I don't want my DAT scores on my CV for all the other schools to see.... LOL (much stronger dental student than pre-dental student).
     

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    Please do not apply to Tufts. PM if you want to know why.
     
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    Okay other question about Columbia... but on the ADEA PASS page it says unofficial scores in the CV....? What if I don't want my DAT scores on my CV for all the other schools to see.... LOL (much stronger dental student than pre-dental student).

    I attached the PDF of my scores into the same document as my personal statement (so, first page is my PS and the second page is a printout of my DATs). I did well on the DAT but it looked REALLY weird putting in my CV. If I don't get an interview for not following directions then, oh well. If they want something specific they should add a section to upload it on their school specific section like all of the other schools do :shrug:
     
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    Hey everyone! Does anyone know when checks get cashed for supplemental fees? I have sent a couple and it has been a few weeks but they still have not been cashed.
     

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    Have most people submitted their applications ? How many programs are you applying to?
     

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    Hey everyone! Does anyone know when checks get cashed for supplemental fees? I have sent a couple and it has been a few weeks but they still have not been cashed.

    Email the program coordinator and ask. Its pretty early in the application process and some may be busy with the incoming class/ graduating class.
     

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    Non-trad here. I have worked for 5 years post-dental school. I have been told that most programs like experience while there are some that have not accepted anyone that is not straight out of school or a residency program for years.

    In a virtual externship this year I was told that work experience is something schools will consider specifically this year as a ton of students in dental school have very little patient care experience due to the pandemic (even more so when looking at care on pediatric patients specifically). According to threads from previous years, some schools will literally ask in interviews, "How many SSCs have you done?" "How many strip crowns have you done?" etc.

    I think that the only way being a non-trad will be helpful is because 99% of the applicants are pretty much going to be in dental school or just graduated. It will give us something to talk about on the app and in an interview. Standing out even a little bit is what gets an interview (grades, experience, awards, LORs, etc). Once you have an interview its easy from there because you can sell yourself at the school (if that is what you're good at).

    When it comes down to it though... I think that schools just want to have a 100% boards pass rate and they are going to put very heavy consideration on grades and scores. If you have great grades and scores from dental school AND experience working in peds, then you are in good shape I would bet.
    Hi , I am a non traditional applicant as well. thank you for all the helpful information. What is considered a good grade? my GPA was 3.36. is that something the schools would atleast consider? Have you taken ADAT? does it help?
     

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    Hi , I am a non traditional applicant as well. thank you for all the helpful information. What is considered a good grade? my GPA was 3.36. is that something the schools would atleast consider? Have you taken ADAT? does it help?

    Hey there,

    Not sure what schools will consider. I know that students that had OK grades needed to make up for it in other areas of the application to be considered (extracurriculars, service, test scores, etc.). I just know that a few of the schools that have had information sessions have expressed that they like to have a high pass rate on the boards and previous performance is the best indicator of that.

    I think that it would be smart to apply to some reach schools and then some schools that charge tuition (they are less competitive because more students are applying to programs that have a stipend to reduce their overall student debt). Some schools are also specific about who they take: Harvard and Columbia are clear on their websites that they are looking for students in the top 10% of their classes.

    As for the ADAT, I did not take it. It had just come out when I was finishing dental school and there is no way that I would do well now that I have been removed from school for a bit. No time to study. And honestly, there are only very few select schools that require it, so I opted out of taking it. If you can get 90th percentile or higher on the test I think it would only help you.

    This is all just my very singular point of view; hopefully some others will chime in and offer more info. Best of luck!
     
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    Hey there,

    Not sure what schools will consider. My school did not have GPAs but they did have a "top 10 students". Working on an admissions committee in the past, I know that students that had OK grades needed to make up for it in other areas of the application to be considered (extracurriculars, service, test scores, etc.). I just know that a few of the schools that have had information sessions have expressed that they like to have a high pass rate on the boards and previous performance is the best indicator of that.

    I think that it would be smart to apply to some reach schools and then some schools that charge tuition (they are less competitive because more students are applying to programs that have a stipend to reduce their overall student debt). Some schools are also specific about who they take: Harvard and Columbia are clear on their websites that they are looking for students in the top 10% of their classes.

    As for the ADAT, I did not take it. It had just come out when I was finishing dental school and there is no way that I would do well now that I have been removed from school for a bit. No time to study. And honestly, there are only very few select schools that require it, so I opted out of taking it. If you can get 90th percentile or higher on the test I think it would only help you.

    This is all just my very singular point of view; hopefully some others will chime in and offer more info. Best of luck!

    Where did you find the info that Harvard looks for top 10%? Is it on a website? Thank you
     
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    Where did you find the info that Harvard looks for top 10%? Is it on a website? Thank you


    Here is the link to the application info page for the program at Harvard.

    I'll copy and paste what it says here:

    "The clinical training in pediatric dentistry program commences on July 1 and is preceded by several required orientation days. Early application is encouraged. The application deadline is September 2 of the preceding year.

    Our highly competitive program attracts applicants who are in the top 10 percent of their dental school classes and score above 85 percent in Part I of the National Board of Dental Examiners Examination."

    The NBDE comment is old because they don't score those anymore... And it is also weird wording when they say "attracts applicants who are in the top 10 percent". I guess take it for what it's worth :shrug:

    Hope that helps!
     
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    Hey guys, I was wondering if we have to get IEF for all the schools we are applying to or just getting PEF would be enough? My school is not responding and I was wondering if the school's description on AAPD doesn't specifically ask for IEF , maybe I can get away with applying without one
    .any thoughts?
     

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    Hey guys, I was wondering if we have to get IEF for all the schools we are applying to or just getting PEF would be enough? My school is not responding and I was wondering if the school's description on AAPD doesn't specifically ask for IEF , maybe I can get away with applying without one
    .any thoughts?

    I don’t think you can apply without IEF from the school your graduated/ will graduate from. Most schools will complete IEF for residencies with an earlier deadline first and will get to the pediatric ones later in the cycle. Endo/ ortho/ pros/ anes and perio residencies take precedence before GPR, pedo and OMS I think. Your application on ADEA PASS will be not be ‘complete’ without an IEF. Email the ADEA PaSS helpdesk to confirm of this.
     
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    Hey there,

    Not sure what schools will consider. My school did not have GPAs but they did have a "top 10 students". Working on an admissions committee in the past, I know that students that had OK grades needed to make up for it in other areas of the application to be considered (extracurriculars, service, test scores, etc.). I just know that a few of the schools that have had information sessions have expressed that they like to have a high pass rate on the boards and previous performance is the best indicator of that.

    I think that it would be smart to apply to some reach schools and then some schools that charge tuition (they are less competitive because more students are applying to programs that have a stipend to reduce their overall student debt). Some schools are also specific about who they take: Harvard and Columbia are clear on their websites that they are looking for students in the top 10% of their classes.

    As for the ADAT, I did not take it. It had just come out when I was finishing dental school and there is no way that I would do well now that I have been removed from school for a bit. No time to study. And honestly, there are only very few select schools that require it, so I opted out of taking it. If you can get 90th percentile or higher on the test I think it would only help you.

    This is all just my very singular point of view; hopefully some others will chime in and offer more info. Best of luck!
    Thank you!
     
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    Have most people submitted their applications ? How many programs are you applying to?

    I am applying to 7 or 8 programs (haven't decided on one of them). I have not submitted yet... But I will be submitting in the next week. Have everything done and most letters in, I just don't trust by ability to upload things correctly or spell things right. So, I am reading through everything a few times before I press submit :laugh:
     
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    I am applying to 7 or 8 programs (haven't decided on one of them). I have not submitted yet... But I will be submitting in the next week. Have everything done and most letters in, I just don't trust by ability to upload things correctly or spell things right. So, I am reading through everything a few times before I press submit :laugh:
    Me too!! I keep re-reading over and over ! Hopefully submit mine soon too. Best of luck :)
     

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    Weird question... But, is anybody avoiding any peds programs based on their own experience or second hand stories?

    Please feel free to private message me if you don't want to post on the board. I just want to make sure I don't have any programs on my list that have big issues that they hide well, haha!
     
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