*Official* "IM Interviews Offered" Thread

[drjazz]

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Havn't heard from:

UCLA
Stanford
UCSD
UC davis
BIDMC
BW
MGH
Duke
Cornell
Columbia
UChicago
Tufts - NEMC

 

[DrNick2006]

Havn't heard from:

UCLA
Stanford
UCSD
UC davis
BIDMC
BW
MGH
Duke
Cornell
Columbia
UChicago
Tufts - NEMC

there, thats me again.

 

[DrNick2006]

I wonder if I'll get anymore interviews???

I don't think it looks good.

 

[upekkha]

i know -- i'm also starting to get worried.

 

[Zolpidem25]

Havn't heard from:

UCLA
Stanford
UCSD
UC davis
BIDMC
BW
MGH
Duke
Cornell
Columbia
UChicago
Tufts - NEMC

there, thats me again.

whoever this DrJazz is, he must love you Nick.... 😉

 

[Zolpidem25]

MGH today

Yall should have seen my MGH dance...It was something brilliant

you had an MGH dance? can we get that on streaming video? 😀

 

[oliviakler99]

Interviews:
GW
UNC
Duke
MCV at VCU
UPenn
Northwestern
BU
BIDMC
OHSU
MGH (still reeling over this one)
Emory

Rejections: JHU, UCSF

Awaiting: BWH, UCSD, Stanford, U of Chicago, Cook County, Univ. of Washington

 

[inositide]

And there we have it folks. It seems that virtually all of the invites have been sent. If Columbia,Cornell,BIDMC,MGH,West Coast,MidWest,South programs etc have not replied yet, then I think what the eventual correspondence will say is quite predictable.

After the issuing of MGH invites, I think that there are no remaining programs where mass invites are still pending. Only the "Due to the outstanding pool of candidates this year..." emails remain to be sent. An invite *might* trickle in every now and then it's less likely.

Anyone disagree?

 

[DrHeartMD]

And there we have it folks. It seems that virtually all of the invites have been sent. If Columbia,Cornell,BIDMC,MGH,West Coast,MidWest,South programs etc have not replied yet, then I think what the eventual correspondence will say is quite predictable.

After the issuing of MGH invites, I think that there are no remaining programs where mass invites are still pending. Only the "Due to the outstanding pool of candidates this year..." emails remain to be sent. An invite *might* trickle in every now and then it's less likely.

Anyone disagree?

I called duke today (actually have been calling for the last week but got a live person for the first time today) and they said they will still be offering interviews...B/W when I called last week said they send interview invites through the first week of december sometimes...UCSF I called, but got voicemail, so no clue there...and I never called stanford, so if anyone has info on those two cali guys it'd be good...no rejection yet, but also no news...

to sum up...I think there is still some hope over the next few weeks...but don't be holding out for anything...I'd say start solidifying schedules and making travel plans within the two weeks.

 

[raph91]

Part of me is forced to think (and I know this might not be true) that the later you get with no invite, the more likely it is a "fill in" for somebody who chose not to interview there or a lower place on their original "idealized ranking" of people. This makes me wonder how likely it is to get a good spot on their rank list because I don't believe that, come interview day, we are all placed on equal footing and then re-analyzed from scratch. I would think that except for a few people, there would be little mobility in terms of moving up or down relative to where they saw you in their applicant pool when they first read the app.

This is just my perception. Sure an interview *could* make you, but I would think that it would be more likely to break you (the well-credentialed but overtly obnoxious, annoying applicant).

Correct me if I'm mistaken. (I really hope I am.)

 

[phatfarm]

UCSF I called, but got voicemail, so no clue there...and I never called stanford, so if anyone has info on those two cali guys it'd be good...no rejection yet, but also no news...

to sum up...I think there is still some hope over the next few weeks...but don't be holding out for anything...I'd say start solidifying schedules and making travel plans within the two weeks.

Dr J.B.,
Heard from Stanford, said we'd know one way or another by the end of the week. Good luck! Hope to see you around.

P.F.

 

[DrHeartMD]

Part of me is forced to think (and I know this might not be true) that the later you get with no invite, the more likely it is a "fill in" for somebody who chose not to interview there or a lower place on their original "idealized ranking" of people. This makes me wonder how likely it is to get a good spot on their rank list because I don't believe that, come interview day, we are all placed on equal footing and then re-analyzed from scratch. I would think that except for a few people, there would be little mobility in terms of moving up or down relative to where they saw you in their applicant pool when they first read the app.

This is just my perception. Sure an interview *could* make you, but I would think that it would be more likely to break you (the well-credentialed but overtly obnoxious, annoying applicant).

Correct me if I'm mistaken. (I really hope I am.)

Sorry Raph, I have to TOTALLY disagree with that...I am sure programs do not disregard all of your credentials when you get to the interview, but I also believe that interviews are exceptionally important, and occasionally had "made" several applicants (I am sure they could break people too)...I also think that the date when you receive the interview should not be used as a measuring stick as to how highly you rank, as different programs send invites differently based on geography, date of receipt, which members of the selection committee received your app, and many other factors...I think once an interview is granted, treat yourself as being on an equal footing, as you are most likely at minimum as qualified as every other applicant there for that spot, otherwise the program wouldn't interview you...be confident, and remember interview can help you a great deal...

Phat: thanks for the info, I guess I will hold out on planning any california trips til I hear from them and SF - if I get the hatchet, I won't get the chance to grab some sun, and check out the beautifully blonde bikini-clad girls of california...(people tell me SF is not like LA, but in my east-coast mind, every cali girl is super hot and wears a bikini at all times)...

J

(P.S.: California girls do not take offense, I am not a sexist...I am just a guy who enjoys seeing scantily clad beautiful women)

good luck everyone

 

[phatfarm]

Phat: thanks for the info, I guess I will hold out on planning any california trips til I hear from them and SF - if I get the hatchet, I won't get the chance to grab some sun, and check out the beautifully blonde bikini-clad girls of california...(people tell me SF is not like LA, but in my east-coast mind, every cali girl is super hot and wears a bikini at all times)...

J

good luck everyone

JB,
No bikinis in NorCal. If you are interested in Stanford, shoot them a call, they can give you an update on your ap. Good luck.

P.F.

 

[GIMed]

People don't give up hope just yet...Yall sound like me last week when I was miserable and then 3 interviews from some awesome schools popped in my mailbox.

Called BWH today (since I got MGH, I thought I'd have a little chat with Brigham since I'd love to interview there). They are still offering interviews although it is likely the last batch will go out next weke.

My friend called UCSF (she just completed an away there) and was told they hadn't even reviewed her application. Now for me...I've been rejected. But for many of you who haven't, keep hope alive.

And I absolutely do not believe that just because you are offered an interview at the end of the process rather than the beginning, you are at a disadvantage. I had a close friend who is going to into radiology who was one of the last to get interviews at MGH and after the whole thing was over (and he matched at his #1) he found out he was ranked to match at MGH. So there!

 

[firstdoc]

I absolutely agree with you GIMed! I haven't heard from a lot of the more competitive programs yet, but I haven't lost hope. And I definitely don't think when you receive the invitation to interview matters. UCSF told me they review applications by regions, and that they haven't even reviewed my application yet. (By the way, they also told me that the PD was out of town this week, so no one will hear anything more this week.)

 

[quidnunc]

Thanks for the scoop firstdoc! BTW, what region are you in?

 

[DrNick2006]

BIDMC reviews by regions as well acording to thier PD (whom I spoke with today so hopefully an interview invite will be coming soon)

 

[firstdoc]

I'm in the southeast.

 

[DrHeartMD]

I can confirm firstdoc on UCSF...I called today and talked to someone there...they said PD is out of town, so no review...also her exact words were "no news is good news right now" this is after she asked me if I had received an email from her stating I was rejected...so if you haven't heard anything keep your head up...

Also called stanford on Phat's recommendation and they said that my app is being reviewed, and I will likely hear this week re a decision...

so I think there is still time, and it is early, so don;t worry too much yet...

btw I am in the northeast, and I heard from a lot of northeast programs earlier than programs out of the region, so that adds some credence to the regional factor...

 

[coldfeet]

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[MISTERshortcoat]

Step I: >240, <260
Step II: >240, <260
Step II CS: pass
Non-AOA, non-top 25 med school.
Honored IM, lettered one other rotation.
Undergrad honors thesis, did research in med school, but zero publications -- for I am the master at choosing projects that go nowhere, yet oddly take up time and energy.

My list (nothing new, but alphabetized):
Boston U
Case Western
Duke
Hopkins - Bayview
Ohio State
Tufts - NEMC
UNC
UVA
Wake Forest

Rejections:
JHU, MGH.

Pending rejections:
Yale - New Haven, BIDMC, BWH.

Best of luck to you all.

 

[coldfeet]

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[BStein76]

Step I: 245
Step II: 248
Step II CS: pass
Non-AOA, non-top 25 med school.
Honored IM, lettered OB/GYN.
Undergrad honors thesis, did research in med school, but zero publications -- for I am the master at choosing projects that go nowhere, yet oddly take up time and energy.

My list (nothing new, but alphabetized):
Boston U
Case Western
Duke
Hopkins - Bayview
Ohio State
Tufts - NEMC
UNC
UVA
Wake Forest

Rejections:
JHU, MGH.

Pending rejections:
Yale - New Haven, BIDMC, BWH.

Best of luck to you all.

We are almost twins in stats and rejections:
USMLE Step I: 245
USMLE STEP II CS: Not taken
USMLE Step II CK: Not taken
Not AOA at Top 20 school in the South
Basic Science:Mostly Pass, some honors
Honors: every core rotation except HP in pediatrics
3 research publications
No away rotations
Excellent on MSPE (our school has outstanding, excellent, very good, good)
Neither of my parents are physicians
Application complete with transcripts, letters (except MSPE) since 10/10/05
I never saw my recommendation letters, but they were all from tenured full professors.

Interviews:
Emory (email)
Washington University (email)
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor (email)
Baylor (email)
UTSW (email)
UCSF (email)
UCLA (email)
BID (email)
Stanford (email)

Awaiting: UCSD, BWH (probably will get the axe), U Washington

Rejections:
Johns Hopkins (email)
MGH (email)

I heard if you collect all three rejection letters from the Harvard programs you can turn it in for a super secret decoder ring...

 

[DrNick2006]

WHACK goes the axe. MGH

 

[MISTERshortcoat]

We are almost twins in stats and rejections:

I heard if you collect all three rejection letters from the Harvard programs you can turn it in for a super secret decoder ring...

HA! Somehow, I feel that my decoder ring will lead me to a secret treasure: another research project that doesn't publish. Hee he.

 

[BStein76]

HA! Somehow, I feel that my decoder ring will lead me to a secret treasure: another research project that doesn't publish. Hee he.

Well spoken like a person with basic science research experience; even better than secret treasure is artifactual results that you pursue for 1 year before realizing it was only artifact.

 

[Zolpidem25]

WHACK goes the axe. MGH

my head just got chopped off as well....
MGH said take a hike.

still haven't heard from:
Stanford
Duke
U Chicago
Cornell
Columbia
NYU
Mt. Sinai
BIDMC
BWH

will start making phone calls tomorrow. no sense in continuing to be shy, as the rejections pile up...

 

[quidnunc]

Adios says MGH.... 🙁

 

[TommyGunn04]

I'm joining the club...I was shot down by MGH today as well. 🙁

👍 Interviews:
BID
Brown
BU
Duke
Michigan
UNC
U Penn
UVA
Wash U

No word from:
BWH
Yale New Haven

👎 Rejections: Hopkins, MGH

 

[BigBadBix]

Received an invite from UC Davis today, which is supposed to be a great program but was also the one place I had basically decided not to accept if offered, so...we'll see. Anybody know much about the program or Sacramento?

Also got rejections from UCSF & MGH this week. The deafening silence from Stanford, BWH, Columbia, and UCSD is not reassuring. The PD at my school predicted that some top places might screen me out b/c of my HP in Medicine without even looking at my file, so I suppose that's what's happened. I was hoping at least a couple of the biggies would look past it, but I guess not. Stupid subjective third year grades! 😡 (Yes, I know, I should just be happy for the great invites I have, but I just had to vent a bit.)

Update:
AOA at Top 30 school
Step 1: 256
Step 2 CK: not till Feb
Honors in Sub-I, Psych, Peds, Ambulatory Medicine; HP in everything else, including 3rd year IM
MSPE grouping: Outstanding/Top 20%
Significant research experience, 3 presentations, no pubs

Going/gone:
UW
OHSU
UCLA
Colorado
Duke
BID
Cornell
Mt. Sinai
NYU (?)
UCD (?)

Cancelled/will cancel:
UTSW
Baylor
Providence Portland
Providence St. Vincent
Virginia Mason

 

[Goodguy]

my head just got chopped off as well....
MGH said take a hike.

still haven't heard from:
Stanford
Duke
U Chicago
Cornell
Columbia
NYU
Mt. Sinai
BIDMC
BWH

will start making phone calls tomorrow. no sense in continuing to be shy, as the rejections pile up...

Equally chopped head here!

I think the cat is out of the bag, and if we do get interviews, then it'll be slots they need to fill for their 'quota'. Let's face it! If they were truly interested they would have sent out an invitation. I think there may be some truth to the regional selection, but still....I may try calling tomorrow...can't hurt right?

 

[doug]

oh it hurts, for sure. I emailed and called a bunch of programs over the weekend and wound up getting myself rejected from NYU, Mt. Sinai and Cornell. Still no word from Columbia.

Equally chopped head here!

I think the cat is out of the bag, and if we do get interviews, then it'll be slots they need to fill for their 'quota'. Let's face it! If they were truly interested they would have sent out an invitation. I think there may be some truth to the regional selection, but still....I may try calling tomorrow...can't hurt right?

 

[Zolpidem25]

oh it hurts, for sure. I emailed and called a bunch of programs over the weekend and wound up getting myself rejected from NYU, Mt. Sinai and Cornell. Still no word from Columbia.

so do you think that calling the programs accelerated/facilitated them rejecting you? i mean, that could be somewhat of a coincidence...

did you speak to the actual PDs of those programs, or secretaries?

 

[doug]

I have no way of knowing if it changed anything, that would just be idle speculation. It sounded to me like Mt. Sinai and NYU had already made up their minds. Cornell took a day or two so I think I just bumped my apparently woeful app to the top of the pile.

so do you think that calling the programs accelerated/facilitated them rejecting you? i mean, that could be somewhat of a coincidence...

did you speak to the actual PDs of those programs, or secretaries?

 

[Fermi]

The PD at my school predicted that some top places might screen me out b/c of my HP in Medicine without even looking at my file...
AOA at Top 30 school
Step 1: 256
Step 2 CK: not till Feb
Honors in Sub-I, Psych, Peds, Ambulatory Medicine; HP in everything else, including 3rd year IM
MSPE grouping: Outstanding/Top 20%
Significant research experience, 3 presentations, no pubs

The fact that they would screen out a "HP" in medicine in the face of AOA, multiple other honors, and 256 Step 1 would be unfortunate, but I could see it being true. My qualifications pale in comparison, AND I "HP"'ed medicine. Mostly due to the shelf exam. Oh well, what's done is done:

Non-AOA at Non-top 30 school
Step 1: 235
Step 2: Not yet
Honors in 4 rotations, HP everything else incl. 3rd/4th year IM
Significant research, a few non 1st author pubs, 2 presentations

Going:
UMN, Mayo, UIC, Rush, NU-Evanston, Michigan, Wash U, Maine, Dartmouth

Negged:
Washington, Northwestern

Yet to Hear:
OHSU, Stanford, UCSD, U Chicago, BWH

 

[BStein76]

The PD at my school predicted that some top places might screen me out b/c of my HP in Medicine without even looking at my file, so I suppose that's what's happened.

My PD also correctly predicted that my application would be quickly rejected on the East Coast primarily on my non-AOA, board score and geographical location of our school (although I managed to eke out BID). He mentioned to me that I would be throwing my money away applying to the East Coast, but since each application is only a couple bucks it is worth trying. He felt my borderline board grades would be offset by my publications on the West Coast. I was surprised about how much insight he had into the interview process after seeing my application in under 5 minutes (i.e. he skipped my personal statement and extracurriculars, went straight to the last page of the Dean's letter, USMLE transcript, asked if I was AOA and asked how many first author publications I had). Nonetheless I was glad he was brutally honest and at least gave me realistic expectations.

 

[lasix]

updated list:

brigham
hopkins
penn
stanford
yale
columbia
cornell
michigan
wash u
nyu
mt sinai
northwestern

still waiting for mgh and cali schools.

adding mgh, ucsd, and ucla. waiting on a couple of programs. will start canceling a few soon. best wishes everyone.

 

[BigBadBix]

He felt my borderline board grades would be offset by my publications on the West Coast.

A 245 is a borderline board score for IM? Maybe on SDN, but I thought in the real world that was a good score...isn't that like the 90th percentile or something?

Anyway, you reminded me of something I forgot to mention earlier during my rant, which is the importance of publications. It does seem that a first-author paper or two can go a long way to offset other areas of weakness in the application. Despite the fact that I keep bemoaning my medicine grade, I do realize that's not the only problem with my app - the lack of pubs is definitely hurting me as well.

 

[BigBadBix]

adding mgh, ucsd, and ucla. waiting on a couple of programs. will start canceling a few soon. best wishes everyone.

Wow, that is a great list. You have a tough decision ahead of you! I would have a tough time turning down almost any of those interviews.

 

[BStein76]

A 245 is a borderline board score for IM? Maybe on SDN, but I thought in the real world that was a good score...isn't that like the 90th percentile or something?

I think the PD meant borderline for the most competitive IM residencies on the East Coast. We went over the programs I was applying to and he divided it into three groups: programs that I would get interviews and probably ranked to match (Emory, UTSW, Baylor, Wash U, U Michigan), programs that I would get interviews, but not guaranteed to match (UCSF, Stanford) and programs where I probably wouldn't get interviews (JHU, MGH, BWH, BID).

 

[BStein76]

Despite the fact that I keep bemoaning my medicine grade, I do realize that's not the only problem with my app - the lack of pubs is definitely hurting me as well.

Hopefully your 3 research presentations will eventually turn into first-author publications before you apply to fellowships (unless this is not in your career plans). Good luck on the interview trail...

 

[Zolpidem25]

I think the PD meant borderline for the most competitive IM residencies on the East Coast. We went over the programs I was applying to and he divided it into three groups: programs that I would get interviews and probably ranked to match (Emory, UTSW, Baylor, Wash U, U Michigan), programs that I would get interviews, but not guaranteed to match (UCSF, Stanford) and programs where I probably wouldn't get interviews (JHU, MGH, BWH, BID).

it's funny, cause when i showed my advisor the list of programs to which i was applying, she made predictions for each place as to whether or not I would get an interivew, based on my application as a whole. at the time, i just took this as one person's opinion. but as it turns out, she has been correct on every single one of them so far. literally, she's batting 1.000 right now. of course, there are still 9 places left i haven't heard from, maybe she'll get a few of those wrong. bring her average down to something a little more human. but its amazing how she could just feel out where I could be contending...

 

[DrHeartMD]

my PD told me I don't have a chance at the top programs (citing previous trends at our school)...I still might not, but I do have a few interviews so I will at least have the opportunity to visit and see...I am sincerely hoping she isnt batting the kind of avgs that your PDs are batting...

 

[firstdoc]

Heard from UCSD and Mayo-Rochester today.

Updated list:

Temple
Tufts
Boston Univ
UPenn
Jefferson
NYU
Michigan
Northwestern
Univ of Chicago
Pittsburgh
UCSD
Mayo-Rochester

 

[hoddog]

My Final List

U Michigan
U Chicago
Mt Sinai
U Colorado
UW
BWH
MGH
Penn
Hopkins
UCSF
Stanford
UCSD

Said no to:
Cornell
Yale
UCLA

Awaiting: Duke (but not sweating it since they have been offering interviews forever and I haven't heard a peep)

I was wondering what the post-interview protocol was. Is the general feeling that an email to interviewers/program directors is essentially required for good favor or is it pushy? Just curious what others are doing.

 

[quidnunc]

Adding Cornell (after sending e-mail to check up on status, no least)

Old:
Columbia
Baylor
UCLA
Northwestern
UTSW
Cedars Sinai
Harbor-UCLA
USC
Rush

The wait is just killing me, arrghh! 😡

 

[Zolpidem25]

Adding Cornell (after sending e-mail to check up on status, no least)

Old:
Columbia
Baylor
UCLA
Northwestern
UTSW
Cedars Sinai
Harbor-UCLA
USC
Rush

The wait is just killing me, arrghh! 😡

hey quid -- check you private messages.....
Z

 

[DrHeartMD]

adding stanford...still waiting on duke (haven't heard anything and I know they have been giving out for a while) and UCSF (for which I heard the PD is out of town)

 

[Zolpidem25]

adding stanford...still waiting on duke (haven't heard anything and I know they have been giving out for a while) and UCSF (for which I heard the PD is out of town)

congrats on Stanford!!! that is awesome.

clearly your PD was wrong, when citing previous trends.... 😉

 

[quidnunc]

OMG, just got Stanford! YES!!!!