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Well there you go significantly better than previous job search things take time. Remember right these next few years out in pencil not pen things change be ready and able to pivot and adapt to suit your long-term goals, nobody else's.
Not defending OP but you are forgetting that the majority of the population (not just DPMs) have little to no interest in being a business owner. Most folks want to show up to work, do the work, go home and earn a steady paycheck. Nothing wrong with that. I doubt a lot of pods are lining up to compete with what OP is doing.
This is a standard BS podiatry offer that is nothing special.
It's above BS. The offer is neither terrible nor great especially for a new grad. I will say it leans more towards being a good offer for a new grad.
2 weeks pto is very very bad
Glad to have you back and also telling the truth.
So you bonus 35% on everything after 450k collections?
If there are other associates ask how much they collect and if they are reaching partnership
Any CME time / $$$?
Here's my counter offer.
My only suggestion would be try to extend it to at least 3 year contract. That's what I did. 2 years seems way too fast to get anything meaningful done
That base is beyond ridiculous considering the amount of money you will generate if you are doing wound debridements, amps, charcot, ex fix, skin grafts, flaps etc.
This is not good advice.
Agree 100%… but beggars can’t be choosers.
You want to sink or swim and bet on yourself as soon as possible if it is a good situation with potential.
Why are you giving advice and thumbs downing ppl who have owned an office and have worked hospital jobs before... when you've never worked a day?
I agree with almost all of this. The only exception I would make is this..... I started with and still prefer a production based model out of the gate if it's a possibility and at a fair rate (35% +). In that situation, I would favor a 3 year year contract. I think 2 is too short, as it takes some time to "get the gears moving", but 4 is too long, as by that point you should be "rolling" and ready to negotiate the next phase (increase, partnership, etc.)
This IMO is an "ok" deal for the short term of 2-5 years. Starting salary is on the low end but fair for 1st year. I would argue that a large group should have the ability to offer more than 30% or a clear track to more.
Small or medium PPgroups will usually be the ones that have track to more (more %, partner, owner buyout if small/solo, etc) potentially available for the right associate DPM...
30% is bad. Probably an associate mill.
Yeah and no.
You should get 150k base or significantly more for large/VC/super groups like that (for the first year)...
A LOT of practicing DPMs read this forum but dont post.
When people are hurting and looking for a job they are desperate for help so I disagree that he or she shouldn’t post updates here. It’s very informative for other people going through the same or to caution others about what they may face. That’s the issue with podiatry, everything is kept under wraps and there is no transparency. That breeds lack of integrity and trust among the general public, other medical specialties, and most of all patients. Everyday podiatry proves its self to be a second rate slum profession. Nobody wants to admit it but it’s true.
Everyone should avoid ABFAS. You know this Seth
- Never worked
Curious your reasoning why everyone should avoid ABFAS?
You can go read my (and many others) old posts in the ABFAS vs ABPM thread. No need to continue to derail the job discussion thread any further by continuing to beat dead horses
I agree. But I would recommend posting after signing a contract if its a job youre going to pursue.
There isn't anything new to be said on this.
I am entitled to my opinion as are you.
The compromise is just don't use exact range, area, practice or group name, etc etc.
I agree it is good to talk offers, but caution until contracting is done or jobs are started. Same for residency match... podiatry is a small world.
Yeah you definitely misinterpreted what I said. I meant that in general podiatry tries to keep everything about the profession under wraps, that’s why the general public still after decades and decades are confused about what podiatrists do. Transparency is key for trust. People come on here to voice their frustrations about all things podiatry because they literally have nowhere else to do it. The APMA surely doesn’t care, nor does any of the other organizations that podiatry has made up. It’s the truth and until people sit in the truth of what podiatry is nothing and I mean nothing will get better. This includes the ABFAS debacle, job market, and the enrollment crisis among other things.
I agree that over indulging on certain details can be detrimental because you never know who is watching this site and how it may affect you while looking for a job. But I just think that the poster is really just looking for help because he or she is having a very hard time so I understand looking for help anywhere you think you can get it.
You stated that well…And here in lies the problem. The profession fighting against its self.
Going after ABFAS is the single worst thing a job applicant can do. Telling people to pursue ABFAS is bad advice
Can you explain your thoughts more?
