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Was about to comment that is a ton of PTO. A lot more than I get at my relatively cushy hospital job. I think I get 160 hours (20 days) per year and I can buy back up to 80 hours per year.

I think every 5 years I am here it goes up by 5 days or something like that.
 
heybrother said:
This board in general treats all hospital type jobs as amazing (because our private practice opportunities are so limited), when in fact northeast coast academic positions in medical disciplines are often associated with sub-par reimbursement. If you read enough of the other medical forums you'll see discussions of all manner of hospital types in which some places are true academics and others are faux-academics where you are simply expected to churn patients under a large hospitals umbrella with or without resident/fellow education for compensation that may not be sufficient.
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Hahhhvahhhd in particular is notorious for paying absolute trash because “prestige.” Last I checked, prestige don’t pay no bills.

My friend who did academics at the best paying place I’ve heard of didn’t make my crappy associate base until like year 8.
 
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619 said:

Non Surgical Podiatrist​

Cambridge, Massachusetts

Am I a good match for this job?
Cambridge Health Alliance (CHA) is a nationally recognized, clinical and academic award-winning public healthcare system. CHA's two hospital campuses, urgent care clinic and integrated network of both primary and specialty care practices in Cambridge, Somerville and Boston's Metro North Region serve an ethnically and socio-economically diverse patient population.

The CHA Orthopaedics department is seeking a full time Doctor of Podiatric Medicine to join the Podiatry division, providing non-surgical podiatry care.

About the Position:

  • Full-time position, Monday-Friday, with clinic hours from 7:30am - 5pm
  • Providing care at 3 sites: Everett, Medford and Cambridge Hospital campuses
  • The ideal candidate will provide exceptional non-surgical care for patients with foot and ankle conditions
  • This is an exciting opportunity to work within a comprehensive, patient-focused healthcare system and serve a diverse patient population
  • Perform comprehensive podiatric evaluations and assessments for patients with foot and ankle conditions
  • Educate patients on preventive care and wellness strategies to maintain foot and ankle health
  • Position carries a HMS appointment of Instructor, Assistant or Associate Professor, commensurate with HMS appointment criteria, candidate qualifications and commitment to teaching responsibilities
Qualifications:

  • Doctor of Podiatric Medicine (DPM) degree from an accredited school of podiatry
  • Board certification or eligibility through ABPM
  • Active and unrestricted Massachusetts state license (or eligibility for licensure)
  • Strong interpersonal and communication skills, with a focus on patient-centered care
  • Ability to work effectively in a fast-paced, multidisciplinary environment
  • Excellent problem-solving skills and the ability to handle complex patient cases
  • Strong commitment to and passion for our multicultural, underserved patient population
Benefits and compensation:

  • CHA offers a comprehensive benefits package, including generous paid time off (296 hours annually), medical/dental/vision insurance, 403b retirement plan with employer match, CME time and money, etc
  • The full-time guaranteed base salary for medical podiatry ranges from $150,000-$200,000 is based on years of experience.
We are an equal opportunity employer and all qualified applicants will receive consideration for employment without regard to race, color, religion, sex, national origin, disability status, protected veteran status, gender identity, sexual orientation, pregnancy and pregnancy-related conditions or any other characteristic protected by law.

Contact Information

[email protected]
Compensation: $150,000 - $200,000, Annually
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Real geniuses at this ortho department. They realized that they can just hire a DPM turd for the exact same money instead of a mid level that they have to deal with signing off on notes (and also the mid level will refuse crusty diabetic feet and clipping their toenails). Best kept secret in medicine.
 
Toenail said:
Real geniuses at this ortho department. They realized that they can just hire a DPM turd for the exact same money instead of a mid level that they have to deal with signing off on notes (and also the mid level will refuse crusty diabetic feet and clipping their toenails). Best kept secret in medicine.
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yup this is exactly what this is. $150k-200k means they're going to always start you at that lower number too. this is pitiful. hell, they may even make you see the ortho's post ops.
 
Toenail said:
Real geniuses at this ortho department. They realized that they can just hire a DPM turd for the exact same money instead of a mid level that they have to deal with signing off on notes (and also the mid level will refuse crusty diabetic feet and clipping their toenails). Best kept secret in medicine.
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Multiple F&A orthos have flat out said this at ACFAS: they'd hire a podiatrist to do exams and orthotics and stuff, but most podiatrists want surgical jobs (and they have that F&A surgery service covered in spades).
 
F&A ortho that we rotated with in residency straight up told me he would love to bring on a podiatrist for clinic stuff he hates and some forefoot only cases as long as they left the rest to him. Seriously might contact him at some point if I decide to make a change because that sounds like dream job to me. Hate rearfoot and ankle recon.
 
Stormblest said:
F&A ortho that we rotated with in residency straight up told me he would love to bring on a podiatrist for clinic stuff he hates and some forefoot only cases as long as they left the rest to him. Seriously might contact him at some point if I decide to make a change because that sounds like dream job to me. Hate rearfoot and ankle recon.
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This relationship very rarely works out well. you’ll also be the pus king and diabetic foot guru. anything with screws proximal to a lisfranc joint? Nah not qualified bro. But hey I got this diabetic foot referral for you

Also strangely you can do charcot recons suddenly, knock yourself out
 
He didn’t even do small joint or PF injects, just would refer those out to his sports med colleagues to do. He rarely did bunions or anything forefoot related because he only wanted to do bigger recon stuff or trauma.
 
Stormblest said:
Was about to comment that is a ton of PTO. A lot more than I get at my relatively cushy hospital job. I think I get 160 hours (20 days) per year and I can buy back up to 80 hours per year.

I think every 5 years I am here it goes up by 5 days or something like that.
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You guys and your PTO.... Those of us who are 100% production there is no such thing as PTO...
You don't work you don't get paid... But you can take as much time off as you want..... I miss the days when I was salary only and hell yeah I'm going to max out my PTO
 
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You guys and your PTO.... Those of us who are 100% production there is no such thing as PTO...
You don't work you don't get paid... But you can take as much time off as you want..... I miss the days when I was salary only and hell yeah I'm going to max out my PTO
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I only take about 10-12 days off per year the past couple of years and that includes PTO, CME, sick days. Also do get all federal holidays. I always do the 80 hours PTO buyback because I know I won’t use it all.

I always get slammed before and after taking off.
 
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Part of my staff benefits include a certain number of paid holidays. So, as a practice owner, not only do I have zero PTO days, holidays actually cost me money :shrug:
 
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Weirdy said:
Non op 7:30-5pm with admin/school duties and compensation is only 150-200 in New England area?
Is this normal up there?

They'd make more as an associate with less hours and admin duties elsewhere....

Edit: Not hating on poster, 619 has regularly posted tons of jobs good or bad- don't shoot the messenger.
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240-270k for surgical when I was interviewing there in residency. I took 340k elsewhere.
 
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Podiatry Job | Saint Joseph Hospital | Denver, CO

Podiatry Job | Saint Joseph Hospital | Denver, CO
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Job Description:

PLEASE NOTE: THIS POSITION IS ONLY FOR RESIDENTS WHO HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED INTO THE ABOVE REFERENCED PHYSICIAN RESIDENCY PROGRAM.

To provide medical expertise and receive medical training to support patients in living the healthiest lives possible.
  • Provide patient care that meets or exceeds the standard of care for the specialty(s) or subspecialty(s) of practice.
  • Perform patient care duties at the location(s) and according to the schedule determined by the specialty and site of care.
  • Maintain the volume of care defined by the standards set by the specialty and site of care.
  • Engage in effective, professional collaboration with all members of the healthcare team.
  • Adhere to all professional expectations as set forth in the Intermountain Physician and APP Handbook, your letter of agreement, and medical staff bylaws of Intermountain facilities where privileged.
  • As a formal or informal leader, you must role model our values and professionalism, create and nurture a psychologically safe workplace and team with those who support you in caring for those you have the privilege
Minimum Requirements
  • Basic Life Support Certification (BLS) for healthcare providers
  • Effective verbal, written and interpersonal communication skills

Location:
Saint Joseph Hospital

Work City:
Denver

Work State:
Colorado

Scheduled Weekly Hours:
40

The hourly range for this position is listed below. Actual hourly rate dependent upon experience.
$7.25 - $999.99

We care about your well-being - mind, body, and spirit - which is why we provide our caregivers a generous benefits package that covers a wide range of programs to foster a sustainable culture of wellness that encompasses living healthy, happy, secure, connected, and engaged.

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By applying for a position with Intermountain, I acknowledge that I will comply with all applicable Intermountain policies and expectations. If applying for a remote or hybrid role, this includes remote work expectations related to confidentiality, information security, work schedules, conflicts of interest, and use of company equipment. I further acknowledge that outside employment or activities may not interfere with job responsibilities or create a conflict of interest with Intermountain. Actual or reasonably perceived conflicts may be grounds for disqualification from consideration or, if hired, corrective action up to and including termination of employment.

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Heck yeah, I made $7.25/hr in high school 20 something years ago.

Take an academic job where you trained and you’re more or less treated (and paid) like a forever resident. Big sucker move in medicine.
 
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Between $7.25 and $999/h. Probably because the law requires the company to post a salary range, malicious compliance
 
I was joking. Nobody is making $1k either.

I stand by not taking a job where you train unless it’s your absolute best option. You get the “you’re not at my level and won’t pass me for promotion” type attitude. Very unlikely you get to negotiate things.

Since our markets are so similar, the best deal I’ve heard of took my friend 8 years to get their base to my crappy first year associate one. I know a few people who got a $100k base at a prestigious spot. Hahvahd is probably around that but I’m not cool enough to have heard their offer. Maybe the Mount Auburn pods can shed light on it.
 
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Program Director, Podiatric Medicine and Surgery Residency Program in New Haven, Connecticut | Yale New Haven Health

Yale New Haven Health Services is hiring a Program Director, Podiatric Medicine and Surgery Residency Program in New Haven, Connecticut. Review all of the job details and apply today!
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Program Director, Podiatric Medicine and Surgery Residency Program​


Job Description​

Overview

Yale New Haven Hospital is seeking an accomplished academic podiatric foot and ankle surgeon to serve as the Program Director of its CPME-accredited Podiatric Medicine and Surgery Residency Program. This is a unique opportunity to join one of the nation's premier academic health systems and help shape the education and development of future podiatric surgeons.



As Program Director, you'll provide strategic and educational leadership for a well-established residency program while maintaining an active clinical practice. The role is ideal for a physician who is passionate about resident education, mentorship, academic medicine, and advancing innovation in podiatric surgery. You'll collaborate closely with multidisciplinary faculty across Yale New Haven Health and the Yale School of Medicine, contributing to excellence in patient care, research, and physician training.

Qualifications

Education:

  • Doctor of Podiatric Medicine (DPM).
Licensure & Certification:

  • Board Certification by the American Board of Foot and Ankle Surgery (ABFAS).
  • Eligible for unrestricted licensure to practice podiatric medicine in the State of Connecticut.
  • Eligible for appointment to the Yale New Haven Hospital Medical Staff with unrestricted clinical privileges.
Experience:

  • Progressive leadership experience in graduate medical education.
  • Previous experience as a Program Director or Associate Program Director of a CPME-accredited Podiatric Medicine and Surgery Residency Program strongly preferred.
  • Demonstrated success in residency education, accreditation, faculty mentorship, and program development.
  • Academic appointment or eligibility for faculty appointment within the Yale School of Medicine preferred.

To learn more, please email our In-House Physician Recruiter: Deanna Buczko at [email protected] You may also use the booking link below to schedule a phone interview with Deanna directly on her calendar.
 

Non Surgical Podiatrist​

Cambridge, Massachusetts

Am I a good match for this job?
Cambridge Health Alliance (CHA) is a nationally recognized, clinical and academic award-winning public healthcare system. CHA's two hospital campuses, urgent care clinic and integrated network of both primary and specialty care practices in Cambridge, Somerville and Boston's Metro North Region serve an ethnically and socio-economically diverse patient population.

The CHA Orthopaedics department is seeking a full time Doctor of Podiatric Medicine to join the Podiatry division, providing non-surgical podiatry care.

About the Position:

  • Full-time position, Monday-Friday, with clinic hours from 7:30am - 5pm
  • Providing care at 3 sites: Everett, Medford and Cambridge Hospital campuses
  • The ideal candidate will provide exceptional non-surgical care for patients with foot and ankle conditions
  • This is an exciting opportunity to work within a comprehensive, patient-focused healthcare system and serve a diverse patient population
  • Perform comprehensive podiatric evaluations and assessments for patients with foot and ankle conditions
  • Educate patients on preventive care and wellness strategies to maintain foot and ankle health
  • Position carries a HMS appointment of Instructor, Assistant or Associate Professor, commensurate with HMS appointment criteria, candidate qualifications and commitment to teaching responsibilities
Qualifications:

  • Doctor of Podiatric Medicine (DPM) degree from an accredited school of podiatry
  • Board certification or eligibility through ABPM
  • Active and unrestricted Massachusetts state license (or eligibility for licensure)
  • Strong interpersonal and communication skills, with a focus on patient-centered care
  • Ability to work effectively in a fast-paced, multidisciplinary environment
  • Excellent problem-solving skills and the ability to handle complex patient cases
  • Strong commitment to and passion for our multicultural, underserved patient population
Benefits and compensation:

  • CHA offers a comprehensive benefits package, including generous paid time off (296 hours annually), medical/dental/vision insurance, 403b retirement plan with employer match, CME time and money, etc
  • The full-time guaranteed base salary for medical podiatry ranges from $150,000-$200,000 is based on years of experience.
We are an equal opportunity employer and all qualified applicants will receive consideration for employment without regard to race, color, religion, sex, national origin, disability status, protected veteran status, gender identity, sexual orientation, pregnancy and pregnancy-related conditions or any other characteristic protected by law.

Contact Information

[email protected]
Compensation: $150,000 - $200,000, Annually
 
619 said:

Non Surgical Podiatrist​

Cambridge, Massachusetts

Am I a good match for this job?
Cambridge Health Alliance (CHA) is a nationally recognized, clinical and academic award-winning public healthcare system. CHA's two hospital campuses, urgent care clinic and integrated network of both primary and specialty care practices in Cambridge, Somerville and Boston's Metro North Region serve an ethnically and socio-economically diverse patient population.

The CHA Orthopaedics department is seeking a full time Doctor of Podiatric Medicine to join the Podiatry division, providing non-surgical podiatry care.

About the Position:

  • Full-time position, Monday-Friday, with clinic hours from 7:30am - 5pm
  • Providing care at 3 sites: Everett, Medford and Cambridge Hospital campuses
  • The ideal candidate will provide exceptional non-surgical care for patients with foot and ankle conditions
  • This is an exciting opportunity to work within a comprehensive, patient-focused healthcare system and serve a diverse patient population
  • Perform comprehensive podiatric evaluations and assessments for patients with foot and ankle conditions
  • Educate patients on preventive care and wellness strategies to maintain foot and ankle health
  • Position carries a HMS appointment of Instructor, Assistant or Associate Professor, commensurate with HMS appointment criteria, candidate qualifications and commitment to teaching responsibilities
Qualifications:

  • Doctor of Podiatric Medicine (DPM) degree from an accredited school of podiatry
  • Board certification or eligibility through ABPM
  • Active and unrestricted Massachusetts state license (or eligibility for licensure)
  • Strong interpersonal and communication skills, with a focus on patient-centered care
  • Ability to work effectively in a fast-paced, multidisciplinary environment
  • Excellent problem-solving skills and the ability to handle complex patient cases
  • Strong commitment to and passion for our multicultural, underserved patient population
Benefits and compensation:

  • CHA offers a comprehensive benefits package, including generous paid time off (296 hours annually), medical/dental/vision insurance, 403b retirement plan with employer match, CME time and money, etc
  • The full-time guaranteed base salary for medical podiatry ranges from $150,000-$200,000 is based on years of experience.
We are an equal opportunity employer and all qualified applicants will receive consideration for employment without regard to race, color, religion, sex, national origin, disability status, protected veteran status, gender identity, sexual orientation, pregnancy and pregnancy-related conditions or any other characteristic protected by law.

Contact Information

[email protected]
Compensation: $150,000 - $200,000, Annually
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Yikes. Hospital salaries falling below private equity groups.
 

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Podiatrist
Location: San Jose, CA

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Please note: this role is PERM / Full-time. We do not have locums roles.


A mission-driven, nonprofit community health organization is seeking a Podiatrist to join its team.

The Podiatrist treats a variety of foot and ankle ailments including calluses, ingrown toenails, heel spurs, and arch problems as well as foot and leg problems associated with diabetes and other diseases. The Position also serves as coach/mentor/trainer to other clinicians and clinical support staff, giving guidance in best practices, troubleshooting of medical services and operations related to Podiatry.
  • Travel locally to visit other sites; may require a day or overnight trip to attend events; workload may be demanding at times; require professionalism and confidentiality.
  • Assess the condition of a patient’s feet, ankles or lower legs by reviewing his or her medical history, listening to the patient’s concerns and preforming a physical examination as needed.
  • Diagnose foot, ankle and lower-leg problems through local examination, x-rays, medical laboratory tests, and other methods.
  • Provide treatment for good, ankle and lower leg ailments, such as prescribing special shoe inserts (orthotics) to improve a patient’s mobility.
  • Give advice and instruction on foot and ankle care and on general wellness techniques and prescribe medications as needed.
  • Refer patients to other physicians or specialist if they detect larger health problems, such as diabetes.
  • Stays abreast of advances in podiatric medicine by attending trainings and conferences and read related material
  • Provide podiatric support, counseling and education in the management of common acute and chronic podiatric illnesses.
  • Consults complex and high priority cases with the director, assistant director or physician on duty or with a specialist as needed.
Compensation & Benefits:
  • $233,280.00 - $270,418.18 salary range
  • Employer funded health reimbursement medical plans
  • Fully paid dental and vision insurance options for employees and eligible family coverage
  • 19 days of paid time off during the first year, increasing with continued service
  • 10 paid holidays, including the employee’s birthday
  • 40 hours of California paid sick leave annually
  • Employer-paid life and AD&D insurance
  • Short- and long-term disability coverage
  • 403(b) retirement plan with employer contribution and matching opportunities
  • Continuing medical education support
  • Coverage for medical-license and DEA-renewal expenses
  • Annual scrub allowance
  • Tuition reimbursement of up to $2,500 per fiscal year
  • Pre-tax commuter benefits for qualified parking and public-transit expenses
  • Potential eligibility for HRSA/National Health Service Corps, California state loan-repayment programs, and Public Service Loan Forgiveness
  • Federal Public Health Service deemed status for qualifying medical-malpractice claims
The Community:

San Jose offers the professional and cultural amenities of a major metropolitan area while providing easy access to the entire San Francisco Bay Area. The city is known for its diverse neighborhoods, outstanding international dining, extensive parks and trails, mild year-round climate, and strong arts and cultural scene.

Residents are within convenient reach of San Francisco, Oakland, Santa Cruz, Monterey, and California’s Pacific Coast. The region also offers multiple international airports, major universities, professional sports, wineries, beaches, redwood forests, and countless options for hiking, cycling, and outdoor recreation.

Would you, or someone you know, be interested in learning more about the below opportunity? Reply back to this email with your CV or text me at 636-628-2412 with job #ec235872 and email address to inquire further. [email protected]
 
619 said:

Non Surgical Podiatrist​

Cambridge, Massachusetts

Am I a good match for this job?
Cambridge Health Alliance (CHA) is a nationally recognized, clinical and academic award-winning public healthcare system. CHA's two hospital campuses, urgent care clinic and integrated network of both primary and specialty care practices in Cambridge, Somerville and Boston's Metro North Region serve an ethnically and socio-economically diverse patient population.

The CHA Orthopaedics department is seeking a full time Doctor of Podiatric Medicine to join the Podiatry division, providing non-surgical podiatry care.

About the Position:

  • Full-time position, Monday-Friday, with clinic hours from 7:30am - 5pm
  • Providing care at 3 sites: Everett, Medford and Cambridge Hospital campuses
  • The ideal candidate will provide exceptional non-surgical care for patients with foot and ankle conditions
  • This is an exciting opportunity to work within a comprehensive, patient-focused healthcare system and serve a diverse patient population
  • Perform comprehensive podiatric evaluations and assessments for patients with foot and ankle conditions
  • Educate patients on preventive care and wellness strategies to maintain foot and ankle health
  • Position carries a HMS appointment of Instructor, Assistant or Associate Professor, commensurate with HMS appointment criteria, candidate qualifications and commitment to teaching responsibilities
Qualifications:

  • Doctor of Podiatric Medicine (DPM) degree from an accredited school of podiatry
  • Board certification or eligibility through ABPM
  • Active and unrestricted Massachusetts state license (or eligibility for licensure)
  • Strong interpersonal and communication skills, with a focus on patient-centered care
  • Ability to work effectively in a fast-paced, multidisciplinary environment
  • Excellent problem-solving skills and the ability to handle complex patient cases
  • Strong commitment to and passion for our multicultural, underserved patient population
Benefits and compensation:

  • CHA offers a comprehensive benefits package, including generous paid time off (296 hours annually), medical/dental/vision insurance, 403b retirement plan with employer match, CME time and money, etc
  • The full-time guaranteed base salary for medical podiatry ranges from $150,000-$200,000 is based on years of experience.
We are an equal opportunity employer and all qualified applicants will receive consideration for employment without regard to race, color, religion, sex, national origin, disability status, protected veteran status, gender identity, sexual orientation, pregnancy and pregnancy-related conditions or any other characteristic protected by law.

Contact Information

[email protected]
Compensation: $150,000 - $200,000, Annually
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Anything below 200K for non op podiatrist is egregious. MGMA data supports over 200K salary for non op DPMs. This is a terrible job offer. I suspect the salary is this low because the surgical podiatrists already there deem it be fair. It seems like job offers where there are other podiatrists already employed at the hospital are always worse than if the hospital hiring their first podiatrist. Disgusting.
 
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I love how they wrote in there that you may need to travel to evaluate people or overnight. Looks like you're going to be doing more job fairs lol
 
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Retrograde_Nail said:
Anything below 200K for non op podiatrist is egregious. MGMA data supports over 200K salary for non op DPMs. This is a terrible job offer. I suspect the salary is this low because the surgical podiatrists already there deem it be fair. It seems like job offers where there are other podiatrists already employed at the hospital are always worse than if the hospital hiring their first podiatrist. Disgusting.
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Of course. This isn’t really for a “non-op” podiatrist. I mean sure the part about not doing any surgery is true. This position was created by the podiatrists who do surgery there to offload the things they don’t want to do, so this is going to be a toenail clipping position. The salary doesn’t come out of their pockets but an administrative bean counter did the math for 0.6 rvu per visit for the toenail clipper position.
 
Retrograde_Nail said:
.... It seems like job offers where there are other podiatrists already employed at the hospital are always worse than if the hospital hiring their first podiatrist. Disgusting.
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This is what saturation does.
It's a race to the bottom.
It [seemingly] makes the first/senior DPM look better in terms of skill/prestige if they can get the facility to hire another one for less (and they invariably can). Sad but true.
 
Feli said:
This is what saturation does.
It's a race to the bottom.
It [seemingly] makes the first/senior DPM look better in terms of skill/prestige if they can get the facility to hire another one for less (and they invariably can). Sad but true.
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Yes saturation. Yes race to be a bottom.

However, I have a feeling that an employed DPM couldn’t care less what an incoming DPM nail clipper gets paid. The current surgery performing DPM is going to get asked questions like what kind of RVUs is incoming Dr. Clipper going to generate for us? Well between .6 and 1 RVU depending on how complex the visit is (toenails vs calluses). So the administrative bean counter makes a pro forma which shows 30 patients per day at an average of .8 RVU per day = 24 rvu per day. Then about 220 working days including about 30 days of PTO per year is 5,280 RVUs at 40/RVU = 211k. Why 40/RVU when the pod who gets to do surgery gets at least 50/RVU? They know Dr. Clipper is going to bring in minimal ancillary revenue, so they get a penalized RVU comp.

But as you said, it’s a race to be a power bottom.
 
I’d like to remind everyone that some of these private equity companies give signing bonuses.

1. You’re going to be taxed >50% of this
2. There’s going to be some stipulation on you owing it back when you leave

Don’t work for these companies. They’re desperate and trying to trap you. If it was a good job they wouldn’t need a $50,000 signing bonus to hire someone.
 
I think the bigger issue with these non-surgical jobs is what they say about supply and demand. We’ve had standardized 3-year surgical residencies for roughly 15 years now, but a podiatrist may practice for 35 years. So we aren’t even halfway through replacing the older generation with DPMs who were all trained as surgeons.


If we’re already seeing hospitals specifically looking for non-surgical podiatrists, what happens over the next 15-20 years as even more surgically trained DPMs enter the workforce?

Do other surgical specialties have non-operative job postings as much as podiatry does? Is there a market for a non operative OB/GYN? Oral surgeon? General surgeon?

And my bigger concern is what protects those non-surgical jobs long term. I’m 14 years into practice and board certified in foot surgery, and the reality is that a PA/NP could be trained to handle a large percentage of what I do in the office for considerably less money.


That could eventually squeeze podiatry from both sides. Too many surgically trained DPMs competing for a finite amount of surgery, while PAs/NPs increasingly compete for the routine non-surgical work.


This is why I don’t buy the simple argument that more diabetes and an aging population automatically means we need more podiatrists. More demand for foot care does not necessarily mean more demand for DPMs, and it definitely doesn’t necessarily mean more demand for surgically trained DPMs.
 
Boba Foot said:
^ seems like something a dean of a school should address, but he's too busy posting out-of-context graphics from Instagram and deflecting.
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Idk it was pretty cool to see Paul Tran, MD on the latest podcast thumbnail.

A much as I don't agree with the guy I didn't think they could get people like that on.

Still havn't watched it though.
 
Dermato Fight Club said:
I think the bigger issue with these non-surgical jobs is what they say about supply and demand. We’ve had standardized 3-year surgical residencies for roughly 15 years now, but a podiatrist may practice for 35 years. So we aren’t even halfway through replacing the older generation with DPMs who were all trained as surgeons.


If we’re already seeing hospitals specifically looking for non-surgical podiatrists, what happens over the next 15-20 years as even more surgically trained DPMs enter the workforce?

Do other surgical specialties have non-operative job postings as much as podiatry does? Is there a market for a non operative OB/GYN? Oral surgeon? General surgeon?

And my bigger concern is what protects those non-surgical jobs long term. I’m 14 years into practice and board certified in foot surgery, and the reality is that a PA/NP could be trained to handle a large percentage of what I do in the office for considerably less money.


That could eventually squeeze podiatry from both sides. Too many surgically trained DPMs competing for a finite amount of surgery, while PAs/NPs increasingly compete for the routine non-surgical work.


This is why I don’t buy the simple argument that more diabetes and an aging population automatically means we need more podiatrists. More demand for foot care does not necessarily mean more demand for DPMs, and it definitely doesn’t necessarily mean more demand for surgically trained DPMs.
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Nothing is protecting those non surgical jobs. Over the next 10 years they are going to get obliterated by teams of foot care APPs with foot care nurses working underneath them. There is nothing that the crusty old APMA can do to stop this as the nursing community has massive leverage and power in numbers. A hospital paying a “doctor” to mainly clip toenails and shave calluses won’t last long.
 
Toenail said:
Nothing is protecting those non surgical jobs. Over the next 10 years they are going to get obliterated by teams of foot care APPs with foot care nurses working underneath them. There is nothing that the crusty old APMA can do to stop this as the nursing community has massive leverage and power in numbers. A hospital paying a “doctor” to mainly clip toenails and shave calluses won’t last long.
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Foot care nurses should be illegal. Yes I want to protect my keratin.
 
BeaverBlade said:
I’d like to remind everyone that some of these private equity companies give signing bonuses.

1. You’re going to be taxed >50% of this
2. There’s going to be some stipulation on you owing it back when you leave

Don’t work for these companies. They’re desperate and trying to trap you. If it was a good job they wouldn’t need a $50,000 signing bonus to hire someone.
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You wish a PE podiatry company gave signing bonuses of 50K. Not a chance
 
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Stormblest said:
I think most APPs are not looking to do podiatry. I get the dumbest referrals from them because they want nothing to do with the foot.
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Put yourself in the shoes of a 22 year old who actually wants to practice non-surgical podiatry. Your options are basically podiatry school + a 3 year surgical residency, or become a PA/NP and potentially do much of the same non-surgical work with less training, less debt and more career flexibility.


APPs may not be lining up to do podiatry today, but if hospitals and practices increasingly want non-operative foot care, I don't see why we should assume that will always require a DPM. That's my concern with training every podiatrist as a surgeon and then having a labor market that increasingly asks some of them not to operate.
 
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They make more than us doing the surgery.
 
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