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[Feli]

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Yep and this is what podiatry leaders and elites see you as

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That 'diss track' part was the clip 15:25 mark... let's give em some views (this "season finale" video was sitting at a meager 141 views in six months when I post this)... maybe up to 200 or 300 soon, haha!!! I like the part where Jeffrey calls "trolls of the internet"... while he is trolling for views. High comedy.



That guy claimed here they get 500 views back when he tried his podcast promo tour, but they get more like a few dozen views on most of them. What he said in that quote above was probably just trying to be controversial and drum up some views (didn't work, since nobody watches... or cares). It didn't even really make sense; he probably doesn't know what deep web or dark web are (social media is neither of them). They got good training but guy is a podiatrist in a MSG in tinytown (pretty common DPM job type now... a lot of new grads get that or VA or similar) and his partner is a pod school podiatrist (pretty average job, with a below average income). Not exactly "elite."
They are really only continuing to make those podcast videos out of stubborness at this point. Good for them if they enjoy it, but his co-host quit it early on and zero chance the podcasts are having any measurable imact or making them any money considering time cost for the paltry views. They made this to try to rag on SDN or reddit or whatever six months ago, and nobody even brought it up until now. I think the insults were probably just guy grasping at straws to try some insults and ragebait, but who knows? At some point I'm sure he wises up, quits making vids, and sees more pts to retire one day or just spends the time with family? His life, his choices. Punching down on podiatrists... when you're also a podiatrist and on the bottom already. Too much. 🤣

....I'm not sure if there even are "elites" in podiatry at all, but if there were, it'd be your aggro PP owners with many offices making millions and employing dozen(s?) of other DPMs. If you have many people needing you for job/raise/etc, that's power. Or maybe it'd be some of the top tier podiatry residency/fellowship directors speaking at good meetings and doing big cases (still usually only about half the volume of an average F&A ortho, though).

 

[air bud]

DMs open for some sample cover letters for that I used

 

[Feli]

What happened to podiatryexchange.org ? (jobs, prac for sale, equip, etc)
Is it just down right now or has been for awhile... this was the first I saw it down.

 

[air bud]

What happened to podiatryexchange.org ? (jobs, prac for sale, equip, etc)
Is it just down right now or has been for awhile... this was the first I saw it down.

Probably why there's no good jobs out there

 

[Feli]

Probably why there's no good jobs out there

It was a simple website, but also a banger since it was free to post jobs, looking for job, etc.

 

[footpainhealer]

What happened to podiatryexchange.org ? (jobs, prac for sale, equip, etc)
Is it just down right now or has been for awhile... this was the first I saw it down.

How can a website that was made specifically for posting podiatry jobs exist if there's no jobs out there in the market for them to post lol

Classic podiatry

Also, on the first page of the APMA website, 50% of the jobs are NOT even for podiatrists. WTF is this BS. APMA posting ads for PA/NP and office staff? hahah

Classic podiatry

 

[air bud]

How can a website that was made specifically for posting podiatry jobs exist if there's no jobs out there in the market for them to post lol

Classic podiatry

Also, on the first page of the APMA website, 50% of the jobs are NOT even for podiatrists. WTF is this BS. APMA posting ads for PA/NP and office staff? hahah

Classic podiatry

Well You're in for a treat if you check out the ACFAS site....

 

[footpainhealer]

Well You're in for a treat if you check out the ACFAS site....

Yeah I knew of that one for years. This is the first time I looked at APMA. I should send this to Deheer

 

[wakaflocka88]

Why is APMA so quiet now. Where’s the crowd?

Truth hurts

 

[heybrother]

I for one will welcome our new APMA members if only to read something new and different around here.

 

[DexterMorganSK]

This thread is specifically for posting about Job openings and discussing jobs. Any other posts will be deleted.
@Weirdy

 

[PodPatrol]

This thread is specifically for posting about Job openings and discussing jobs. Any other posts will be deleted.
@Weirdy

Then why wasn’t the post complaining about my podcast making fun of this place deleted?

My reply was quickly deleted.

 

[Sendin_Toes_2market]

Then why wasn’t the post complaining about my podcast making fun of this place deleted?

My reply was quickly deleted.

You are free to post and contribute. It would be a good way to get a better idea of physician satisfaction. However, like you and the rest
of the APMA task force whom only comments when stuff is super negative.

Just because podiatry has been “good for mee” doesn't mean it was “good for thee”.

Here I sit on my 2k toilet and heated bathroom floor in my 20k bathroom reno. Podiatry has been good for me.

I do thank SDN for some of my success. Although it is negative, I have never asked one for advice and was ignored.

Happy fathers day, good podcast.

 

[Feli]

​

Surgical Podiatrist​

Location: East of Fayetteville, NC
Visa Assistance: No

Please note: this role is PERM / Full-time. We do not have locums roles.​

Podiatric practice with 3 well-established offices in beautiful NW North Carolina is seeking to add a BE/BC Surgical Podiatrist to its team. Must be trained in foot surgery but also want to work in all facets of Podiatry.

The group is highly regarded and loved by its patient base, with proven high levels of patient satisfaction. They treat adults and children of all ages. You would work with four established foot/ankle surgeons to support you as you grow in your new setting. You would be involved with all facets of podiatry, and the established doctors will funnel surgical patients to you to help you get board certified.

• See 20-25 patients per day
• 3 DPMs currently in the practice
• 4.5 day work week, 3 days at 1 location and 1.5 at secondary location about 40 minutes from each other
• Enjoy autonomy and great work-life balance, be home by 5 each night
• Medical Assistant at all locations
• Utilizing both in-office and hospital facilities for surgical procedures
• NC license or NC license in process is a plus
• Health/vision/dental benefits provided

The Community:

The surrounding area offers some of the country's best outdoor adventures, with fast, clear rivers perfect for rafting or kayaking. Prefer winter sports? There are 5 ski resorts within 20 minutes that offer much more than just skiing — snow tubing, snowboarding, and ice skating. It is the largest town, population-wise, in the High Country and is the home to a large university. It flourishes with local businesses, including restaurants and specialty stores. Neighboring Avery County has the best priced real estate in the state.

It has one of the most highly-rated public school districts, it has a total of 4,708 students in grades PK to K-12, and boasts a student-teacher ratio of 13 to 1.

Here, you can thrive in one of the most beautiful areas of North Carolina's Blue Ridge Mountains and be located within a three-hour drive, or less, from major cities and airports in North Carolina, South Carolina, and Tennessee: Hickory 40 miles; Winston-Salem 80 miles; Asheville 80 miles; Johnson City, TN 50 miles; Charlotte 110 miles; Columbia, SC 180 miles.

Kim Britt-Lipetzky, MSN, RN
Recruiting Liaison - Britt Medical Search
888-534-5864
[email protected]

​

 

[air bud]

​

Surgical Podiatrist​

Location: East of Fayetteville, NC
Visa Assistance: No

Please note: this role is PERM / Full-time. We do not have locums roles.​

Podiatric practice with 3 well-established offices in beautiful NW North Carolina is seeking to add a BE/BC Surgical Podiatrist to its team. Must be trained in foot surgery but also want to work in all facets of Podiatry.

The group is highly regarded and loved by its patient base, with proven high levels of patient satisfaction. They treat adults and children of all ages. You would work with four established foot/ankle surgeons to support you as you grow in your new setting. You would be involved with all facets of podiatry, and the established doctors will funnel surgical patients to you to help you get board certified.

• See 20-25 patients per day
• 3 DPMs currently in the practice
• 4.5 day work week, 3 days at 1 location and 1.5 at secondary location about 40 minutes from each other
• Enjoy autonomy and great work-life balance, be home by 5 each night
• Medical Assistant at all locations
• Utilizing both in-office and hospital facilities for surgical procedures
• NC license or NC license in process is a plus
• Health/vision/dental benefits provided

The Community:

The surrounding area offers some of the country's best outdoor adventures, with fast, clear rivers perfect for rafting or kayaking. Prefer winter sports? There are 5 ski resorts within 20 minutes that offer much more than just skiing — snow tubing, snowboarding, and ice skating. It is the largest town, population-wise, in the High Country and is the home to a large university. It flourishes with local businesses, including restaurants and specialty stores. Neighboring Avery County has the best priced real estate in the state.

It has one of the most highly-rated public school districts, it has a total of 4,708 students in grades PK to K-12, and boasts a student-teacher ratio of 13 to 1.

Here, you can thrive in one of the most beautiful areas of North Carolina's Blue Ridge Mountains and be located within a three-hour drive, or less, from major cities and airports in North Carolina, South Carolina, and Tennessee: Hickory 40 miles; Winston-Salem 80 miles; Asheville 80 miles; Johnson City, TN 50 miles; Charlotte 110 miles; Columbia, SC 180 miles.

Kim Britt-Lipetzky, MSN, RN
Recruiting Liaison - Britt Medical Search
888-534-5864
[email protected]

​

I still love how no income is ever mentioned in any of these. Whereas almost every MD or DO position mentions income

 

[DarkPathMedicine]

I still love how no income is ever mentioned in any of these. Whereas almost every MD or DO position mentions income

Shhhh....... it's competitive salary.

 

[eyeeye_captain]

I still love how no income is ever mentioned in any of these. Whereas almost every MD or DO position mentions income

Eh, probably only 20% of ads I get mention an actual salary. It’s usually “competitive,” or my favorite, “earning potential of...” Recruiters suck in general.

 

[Peter Sorensen]

That 'diss track' part was the clip 15:25 mark... let's give em some views (this "season finale" video was sitting at a meager 141 views in six months when I post this)... maybe up to 200 or 300 soon, haha!!! I like the part where Jeffrey calls "trolls of the internet"... while he is trolling for views. High comedy.



That guy claimed here they get 500 views back when he tried his podcast promo tour, but they get more like a few dozen views on most of them. What he said in that quote above was probably just trying to be controversial and drum up some views (didn't work, since nobody watches... or cares). It didn't even really make sense; he probably doesn't know what deep web or dark web are (social media is neither of them). They got good training but guy is a podiatrist in a MSG in tinytown (pretty common DPM job type now... a lot of new grads get that or VA or similar) and his partner is a pod school podiatrist (pretty average job, with a below average income). Not exactly "elite."
They are really only continuing to make those podcast videos out of stubborness at this point. Good for them if they enjoy it, but his co-host quit it early on and zero chance the podcasts are having any measurable imact or making them any money considering time cost for the paltry views. They made this to try to rag on SDN or reddit or whatever six months ago, and nobody even brought it up until now. I think the insults were probably just guy grasping at straws to try some insults and ragebait, but who knows? At some point I'm sure he wises up, quits making vids, and sees more pts to retire one day or just spends the time with family? His life, his choices. Punching down on podiatrists... when you're also a podiatrist and on the bottom already. Too much. 🤣

....I'm not sure if there even are "elites" in podiatry at all, but if there were, it'd be your aggro PP owners with many offices making millions and employing dozen(s?) of other DPMs. If you have many people needing you for job/raise/etc, that's power. Or maybe it'd be some of the top tier podiatry residency/fellowship directors speaking at good meetings and doing big cases (still usually only about half the volume of an average F&A ortho, though).

I for one am super glad @PodPatrol has continued the podcast. I'm not a youtube watcher, I listen on Apple podcasts. Have learned from every episode. I know dozens of students and residents who likewise have benefitted. It's a great method of supplementary education and engagement.

 

[PodPatrol]

I for one am super glad @PodPatrol has continued the podcast. I'm not a youtube watcher, I listen on Apple podcasts. Have learned from every episode. I know dozens of students and residents who likewise have benefitted. It's a great method of supplementary education and engagement.

Thanks! I’ve been humbled by the amount of listeners, especially on Spotify and Apple - it has far exceeded my expectations.

Now back to complaining about jobs! 👉

 

[Utvolsdpm]

​

Surgical Podiatrist​

Location: East of Fayetteville, NC
Visa Assistance: No

Please note: this role is PERM / Full-time. We do not have locums roles.​

Podiatric practice with 3 well-established offices in beautiful NW North Carolina is seeking to add a BE/BC Surgical Podiatrist to its team. Must be trained in foot surgery but also want to work in all facets of Podiatry.

The group is highly regarded and loved by its patient base, with proven high levels of patient satisfaction. They treat adults and children of all ages. You would work with four established foot/ankle surgeons to support you as you grow in your new setting. You would be involved with all facets of podiatry, and the established doctors will funnel surgical patients to you to help you get board certified.

• See 20-25 patients per day
• 3 DPMs currently in the practice
• 4.5 day work week, 3 days at 1 location and 1.5 at secondary location about 40 minutes from each other
• Enjoy autonomy and great work-life balance, be home by 5 each night
• Medical Assistant at all locations
• Utilizing both in-office and hospital facilities for surgical procedures
• NC license or NC license in process is a plus
• Health/vision/dental benefits provided

The Community:

The surrounding area offers some of the country's best outdoor adventures, with fast, clear rivers perfect for rafting or kayaking. Prefer winter sports? There are 5 ski resorts within 20 minutes that offer much more than just skiing — snow tubing, snowboarding, and ice skating. It is the largest town, population-wise, in the High Country and is the home to a large university. It flourishes with local businesses, including restaurants and specialty stores. Neighboring Avery County has the best priced real estate in the state.

It has one of the most highly-rated public school districts, it has a total of 4,708 students in grades PK to K-12, and boasts a student-teacher ratio of 13 to 1.

Here, you can thrive in one of the most beautiful areas of North Carolina's Blue Ridge Mountains and be located within a three-hour drive, or less, from major cities and airports in North Carolina, South Carolina, and Tennessee: Hickory 40 miles; Winston-Salem 80 miles; Asheville 80 miles; Johnson City, TN 50 miles; Charlotte 110 miles; Columbia, SC 180 miles.

Kim Britt-Lipetzky, MSN, RN
Recruiting Liaison - Britt Medical Search
888-534-5864
[email protected]

​

I think they are a little off on their geography

 

[Sendin_Toes_2market]

Below are details on a current open position that may interest you. If you would like to pursue the opportunity, please send me a copy of your CV, as I'll need to review first! If your location preference or specialty has changed, let us know and we will update.

Podiatry opening in New York

• Full time, permanent position
• Elmira, NY

Enjoy a balanced professional and personal lifestyle in a suburban community that offers all the amenities of a larger metropolitan area. Connect with like-minded physicians sharing common goals. Blend your talents to enhance the practice, the health system, and the community in an environment where physicians, practices and families thrive.

Opportunity Information:

Provide comprehensive foot and ankle care in outpatient and inpatient setting, including surgery when indicated Participate in diabetic foot management and wound care Collaborate with multispecialty groups such as orthopedics, endocrinology and wound care teams

Income Details / Benefits:
· Highly Competitive Salary Guarantee with Incentives
· $240k-$270k
· Employment Bonus
· Loan Repayment
· Generous PTO allowance
· CME Days
· Relocation
· Residency / Fellowship Stipend
· Full Malpractice Insurance
· Health, Vision, Dental Benefits
· 401(k) and/or 403(b)

I understand if you are too busy to respond and thank you for reading this far!

Cheers!
Christian Stadler
Source Medical
Phone: (314) 780-3189 [email is best method of contact]
Physician Recruiter
Position ID: 19705

 

[Sweatshirt]

Apparently Upperline is now switching to the RVU model after year 1. My friend from school was just taken off his salary from Upperline and was offered $20 per RVU.........

 

[Feli]

Apparently Upperline is now switching to the RVU model after year 1. My friend from school was just taken off his salary from Upperline and was offered $20 per RVU.........

This is all supergroups, man... they nearly all pull the base, change the employee to straight % collections or Rvu or whatever after the 1yr contract ends.

The groups want to lower pay for more profits... making that switch pushes associates to take less days off, see more patients, push them to do more expensive services. Removing the base filters out the pods who don't see enough volume and/or don't do enough of the big ticket stuff. The base, which appeared high enough to pay COL/loans/etc, was just the way to attract them to the group. That is the "model." The associates who've been switched are too embarrassed to admit it or warn the new hires; they're trapped at that point (esp if non-compete area) and have to just stay and pretend they are doing ok. Those suckers are sure not responding to the big income surveys for podiatry marketing, lol. Some of them just play the group's game and try to max their collections and do a lot of mostly unnecessary testing, procedures, billing, referrals, etc depending what the group has and pays them for.
As for the supergroup partners/owners... it's great if they can create many of those "good soldier" associates, but partners in most of those are rare or even basically nonexistent. These groups are our version of CVS, Walmart, Walgreens, etc for pharmacists. They lure new grads (or various exp DPMs) in with a seemingly ok base salary, and then it becomes just a 30/70 or 65/35 or whatever split indefinitely with no path to partnership. The PP owners who sell to these jokesters nearly always retire soon after, but they basically made any associates they had lambs to the private equity slaughter.

The big group here in NM was not great to begin with; I left after a year. It was a circus centered on "grafts" and vasc and custom DME and other refers they owned. When they went to full PE shortly after I'd left, the smart ones (Abfas qual or cert) immediately or quickly left to other groups, hospital jobs, etc. Some podiatrists obviously still work there due to few other options... and I'm sure a couple more new grads will join soon. It's a revolving door at nearly all of their many offices. I saw one of the associates in the supergroup who is local to me last week who was saying their clinic was not very full... and I was going to clue them in as to what'll happen on their 'anniversary,' but but I just let it be. They will get that email next month or whenever their first year is up, and hopefully they don't miss a car payment or student loan pay or have to borrow $ or something when might they get a check only a fraction of what they are probably expecting (assuming their base that ends was more than 30% of what they're collecting). The group attracts mediocre at best DPMs now (most failed Abfas and/or did bottom half residency... some even failed Abpm). They buy fake reviews, run tons of social media ads. I get more "second opinion" than I know what to do with. Their biz is run just like most of the other supergroups. It's sad.

These pod supergroups are more and more common, but they get mostly subpar pod grads. They may get some ok ones in highly desired cities/areas, but hopefully those can move on fast (hard to say, Upper and some are apparently aggressive on non-compete in states they can be). Word will get out quick that these groups are predatory, and they don't care much if they don't get many/any well-trained DPMs. Like pharmacists, podiatry has noooowhere near enough hospital and good jobs for grads and overall. We get more backlog every year with grads who wanted hospital/msg/ortho jobs or solo PP yet could not get those... and had to take what they could find. The PE groups will always get associate DPMs due to so many grads in big debt with few other options; it's just like retail/corporate pharmacies. It's really too bad, but even the podiatry "leaders" are working to make that cycle happen.

Long term, we will probably need a juneteenth for podiatry supergroup associates? 😐

 

[heybrother]

Apparently Upperline is now switching to the RVU model after year 1. My friend from school was just taken off his salary from Upperline and was offered $20 per RVU.........

Its amazing to see something I've joked about ie. "what would an associate RVU contract look like" -> "$20 an RVU" manifest itself in reality.

I would love to talk more about this, but it would be nice to have something "in writing" demonstrating this.

 

[Toenail]

Apparently Upperline is now switching to the RVU model after year 1. My friend from school was just taken off his salary from Upperline and was offered $20 per RVU.........

Incredible. Less than half of the MGMA average for the lucky pods with normal jobs. I think it’s due to lack of training. We need new graduates to do TWO fellowships, that will solve all the problems.

 

[air bud]

Apparently Upperline is now switching to the RVU model after year 1. My friend from school was just taken off his salary from Upperline and was offered $20 per RVU.........

Lol hospital pods get almost 3x that lol

 

[deleted1218629]

Apparently Upperline is now switching to the RVU model after year 1. My friend from school was just taken off his salary from Upperline and was offered $20 per RVU.........

When these CLOWNS post on social media about "value based care" and "growing the profession" - DON'T BELIEVE THEM. This is their final opportunity to secure the bag. APMA is DEEPLY in the pocket of private equity. A huge percentage of current and past APMA leadership are heavily involved in these organizations. When they open their mouth, DON'T BELIEVE THEM. They are aging out and looking for one more pay day. In the entire history of the interaction between PE and any field, there has never been a "greater good" scenerio where PE was primarily focused on supporting the labor/improving the product. PE exists to exploit the labor and increase profits on the product (by decreasing costs). You can confront them with these arguments and they will stone-faced lie about how you are actually wrong, they are working to improve the profession and they fairly compensate their employees. I have wondered if they are just totally delusional enough to believe they are being helpful. No, they know what they are doing - don't believe them.

 

[NTT123]

Incredible. Less than half of the MGMA average for the lucky pods with normal jobs. I think it’s due to lack of training. We need new graduates to do TWO fellowships, that will solve all the problems.

Good for PE partners and shareholders.

 

[Homo sapien]

This is all supergroups, man... they nearly all pull the base, change the employee to straight % collections or Rvu or whatever after the 1yr contract ends.

The groups want to lower pay for more profits... making that switch pushes associates to take less days off, see more patients, push them to do more expensive services. Removing the base filters out the pods who don't see enough volume and/or don't do enough of the big ticket stuff. The base, which appeared high enough to pay COL/loans/etc, was just the way to attract them to the group. That is the "model." The associates who've been switched are too embarrassed to admit it or warn the new hires; they're trapped at that point (esp if non-compete area) and have to just stay and pretend they are doing ok. Those suckers are sure not responding to the big income surveys for podiatry marketing, lol. Some of them just play the group's game and try to max their collections and do a lot of mostly unnecessary testing, procedures, billing, referrals, etc depending what the group has and pays them for.
As for the supergroup partners/owners... it's great if they can create many of those "good soldier" associates, but partners in most of those are rare or even basically nonexistent. These groups are our version of CVS, Walmart, Walgreens, etc for pharmacists. They lure new grads (or various exp DPMs) in with a seemingly ok base salary, and then it becomes just a 30/70 or 65/35 or whatever split indefinitely with no path to partnership. The PP owners who sell to these jokesters nearly always retire soon after, but they basically made any associates they had lambs to the private equity slaughter.

The big group here in NM was not great to begin with; I left after a year. It was a circus centered on "grafts" and vasc and custom DME and other refers they owned. When they went to full PE shortly after I'd left, the smart ones (Abfas qual or cert) immediately or quickly left to other groups, hospital jobs, etc. Some podiatrists obviously still work there due to few other options... and I'm sure a couple more new grads will join soon. It's a revolving door at nearly all of their many offices. I saw one of the associates in the supergroup who is local to me last week who was saying their clinic was not very full... and I was going to clue them in as to what'll happen on their 'anniversary,' but but I just let it be. They will get that email next month or whenever their first year is up, and hopefully they don't miss a car payment or student loan pay or have to borrow $ or something when might they get a check only a fraction of what they are probably expecting (assuming their base that ends was more than 30% of what they're collecting). The group attracts mediocre at best DPMs now (most failed Abfas and/or did bottom half residency... some even failed Abpm). They buy fake reviews, run tons of social media ads. I get more "second opinion" than I know what to do with. Their biz is run just like most of the other supergroups. It's sad.

These pod supergroups are more and more common, but they get mostly subpar pod grads. They may get some ok ones in highly desired cities/areas, but hopefully those can move on fast (hard to say, Upper and some are apparently aggressive on non-compete in states they can be). Word will get out quick that these groups are predatory, and they don't care much if they don't get many/any well-trained DPMs. Like pharmacists, podiatry has noooowhere near enough hospital and good jobs for grads and overall. We get more backlog every year with grads who wanted hospital/msg/ortho jobs or solo PP yet could not get those... and had to take what they could find. The PE groups will always get associate DPMs due to so many grads in big debt with few other options; it's just like retail/corporate pharmacies. It's really too bad, but even the podiatry "leaders" are working to make that cycle happen.

Long term, we will probably need a juneteenth for podiatry supergroup associates? 😐

Podiatry is a ****

 

[Feli]

Lol hospital pods get almost 3x that lol

Any MD does too.

It makes sense PP employee pods (supergroup or small or large group), the majority of podiatrists, get roughly half to a third of most MD/DO rates, though. It has been that way forever: only a few hospital or PP owner/partner podiatrists come close to allo/osteo on income. Supply and demand.

I'm glad some hospital pods get near MD rates. $20 or 30-something per wRVU is pathetic, though. They call $35 per wRVU "NP territory," and rightly so...

https://forum.whitecoatinvestor.com/practice-management/397821-rvu-vs-wrvu

 

[NTT123]

Any MD does too.

It makes sense PP employee pods (supergroup or small or large group), the majority of podiatrists, get roughly half to a third of most MD/DO rates, though. It has been that way forever: only a few hospital or PP owner/partner podiatrists come close to allo/osteo on income. Supply and demand.

I'm glad some hospital pods get near MD rates. $20 or 30-something per wRVU is pathetic, though. They call $35 per wRVU "NP territory," and rightly so...

https://forum.whitecoatinvestor.com/practice-management/397821-rvu-vs-wrvu

PE group and pod leaders will need to tell Marit to make new a chart starting at $20

 

[heybrother]

RVUs disassociate collections from work, but businesses are paid in dollars - not in RVUs.

I think what this table shows you is that complexity favors the practice/employer.

In this table - for Medicare only - I've taken the actual dollar value Medicare pays and then converted it to the usual model of percentage of collections ie. 30-35-40-45% - ie. what an associate could expect to keep based on a contract. I've then divided these "kept" dollar values by the wRVU for each code. What you'll see is that the CPT codes are associated with variable $/RVU value. This is a reflection of the underlying nature for how the clinic reimbursement values are calculated. The end result of all this is that if a practice truly paid you $20 RVU they are actually reimbursing in many cases even below how Medicare would reimburse a 30% collections approach. If your commercial contracts are better than Medicare - within reason they usually are (though Medicare is often a better E&M payor) then the values will look even worse.

 

[Feli]

RVUs disassociate collections from work, but businesses are paid in dollars - not in RVUs.

I think what this table shows you is that complexity favors the practice/employer...

For sure.

RVU are just like casino chips, credit card reward miles, digital currency, card points on a cruise, emeralds in Minecraft, all that.

I can see using RVU for hospital docs as so many things are not paid at all or some get overpaid. They need to average it out a bit between docs, area, specialty. Sure.

It's hilarious for any kind of private practice, though... it should be percentage of collections, no question. It's just a way to make it harder to track, to pay them even lower.

 

[Boba Foot]

It's crazy that Claude can absolutely NAIL the problems with podiatry while people within the profession refuse to acknowledge them. AI might actually hurt school matriculation more than SDN eventually. I can't wait for the APMA crusade against Claude.

 

[Aresnebula]

to straight % collections

Why is that a bad thing from year 2? Also, what percentage is fair for collection given all benefits are paid by employer in a PP group?

 

[heybrother]

Why is that a bad thing from year 2? Also, what percentage is fair for collection given all benefits are paid by employer in a PP group?

1. Because the "collections"/"bonus" structure is so poor that you won't be able to match your base structure.
2. 40%, which you won't be paid. People who haven't played the game use the word "benefits" like it means something. Within reason, benefits are theoretically just a way of moving money around that could have been paid to the employee but instead was doled out in a tax advantaged fashion. They have a finite value and in most podiatry groups that value wouldn't add up to much if the true cash value was calculated. You can buy a health insurance policy for employees for some version of $400-600 a month. Call it what it is - $5K. They aren't spending an additional $100K of benefits on you. Malpractice is not a benefit, its required to function.

 

[619]

Podiatrist​

White Plains, New York


Am I a good match for this job?
White Plains Hospital is one of Westchester's top health networks. As part of our team, you'll leverage cutting-edge diagnostic technology, collaborate with leading specialists, and contribute to advancing clinical practice. We prioritize your ongoing development, reward clinical excellence, and offer benefits designed to support your life.

Benefits:

• Medical, Dental, Vision, Life Insurance, and Flex Spending Accounts
• Flexible Schedules
• Annual Continuing Medical Education Stipend
• 403(b) with Company Contribution Program
• 457 Savings Plan

The listed salary range may vary based on specialty, experience, education, and other factors

What you'll do as a Podiatrist

• Diagnose and treat conditions affecting the foot, ankle, and lower extremities, including injuries, deformities, and chronic diseases.
• Perform medical procedures and surgeries such as correcting bunions, treating fractures, and removing ingrown toenails or infections.
• Prescribe treatments including medications, orthotics, physical therapy, and preventive care plans to improve mobility and foot health.
• Educate patients on foot care, injury prevention, and management of conditions related to diabetes, arthritis, and circulation issues

Qualifications you'll need

• Experience working alone, as well as podiatrists with wound care training in a hospital setting.
• Graduated from an accredited Medical School
• Board Certified or Board Eligible Radiologist
• An active New York Medical License

Join a team known for award-winning care:

• U.S. News & World Report Best Regional Hospital for 2025/2026
• Fortune's Best Workplaces in Health Care 2025 (3rd time)
• 5-star rating from CMS in 2025 (4th consecutive year)
• Magnet® designation from the ANCC (3rd time, achieved by only 2% of U.S. hospitals)
• Outstanding Patient Experience Award from Healthgrades® (multiple years running)
• "A" Safety Grade from the Leapfrog Group (13th consecutive time, 2025)

About us:

White Plains Hospital Physician Associates (WPHPA), part of White Plains Hospital, connects local physicians with the hospital's resources to expand outpatient specialty care across Westchester County. We're committed to supporting our physicians with the tools, growth opportunities, and culture needed to deliver exceptional care to our community.

Join us:

Please send your confidential CV and a letter of interest to Physician Recruiter, JoAnne Carrier at [email protected] .

Contact Information

Please send your confidential CV and a letter of interest to Physician Recruiter, JoAnne Carrier at [email protected] .

 

[619]

Podiatry Physician Opportunity​

Placerville, Cameron Park, and El Dorado Hills, CA

Am I a good match for this job?
Work in the beautiful Sierra Gold Country of Northern California at an award-winning community hospital.

ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY

• Full time position with 4 or 5 day work week flexibility
  
  • 32 face to face patient care hours per week
  • Minimum 188 workdays per year
• Competitive salary and generous benefits package
  
  • Salary range $270-300k
  • 401(k) contribution
  • Productivity compensation model with base pay
• Malpractice coverage
• Patient-centered, physician led and managed medical group
• Shareholder track available
• Clinic support staff includes Medical Assistants, Referral Coordinator, and other office staff
• Average patient volume of approximately 20-25 patients per day
• Established referral base with strong community demand
• Clinic locations in Placerville, Cameron Park, and El Dorado Hills
• Dedicated operating room block time available
• No call coverage

LOCATION & LIFESTYLE

• Live and work in the beautiful Sierra Foothills, near national forestland, lakes and rivers
• Area offers an outstanding quality of life, ideal for families, with new neighborhoods, shopping centers, restaurants and schools
• California real estate is available at affordable prices
• Nearby city amenities include fine dining, shopping, pro sports and international airport
• Centrally located, it's an easy drive to Sacramento, Lake Tahoe, Napa Valley, San Francisco and the coast
• Winter snow skiing with nearest resort 45 minutes away and year round whitewater sports just minutes from town

Contact Information

WANT TO KNOW MORE?
For immediate consideration, please send your CV to:
ANGELA JIMENEZ
Provider Talent Acquisition Specialist
office 530.626.2762 | [email protected]

 

[Dr.PatchAdams]

Not bad for no call coverage.

 

[iridocyclitiss]

Starting to see this on pretty much every application for hospital jobs. pretty nuts.

Also the fact this job posting was only up for 12 hours holy moly.

 

[Bluecollarmed]

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Starting to see this on pretty much every application for hospital jobs. pretty nuts.

Also the fact this job posting was only up for 12 hours holy moly.

I mean why wouldn’t the hospital include fellowship preferred? They aren’t going to pay ortho money anyways so might as well have better marketing. They also assume a fellowship trained pod is better (obviously we know this to not always be true). Even if the fellowship trained foot and ankle surgeon isn’t doing anything besides forefoot and pus bus, what are they going to do, leave?!

 

[Aresnebula]

fellowship preferred

This has been a very frustrating aspect for myself and few of my friends who were looking for jobs. If I am board certified, will that make me competitive? I mean I don't understand I am comfortable doing most elective surgeries and I have my logs to prove that. Fellowship in pod is NOT the same as ortho and nobody outside of our profession gets that.

 

[Retrograde_Nail]

I mean why wouldn’t the hospital include fellowship preferred? They aren’t going to pay ortho money anyways so might as well have better marketing. They also assume a fellowship trained pod is better (obviously we know this to not always be true). Even if the fellowship trained foot and ankle surgeon isn’t doing anything besides forefoot and pus bus, what are they going to do, leave?!

Hospital jobs and admin who post these jobs don't even know what fellowship training in podiatry even means. The only reason they request fellowship trained DPM is because its being requested by the employed DPM already there. That is the real reason.

In my experience from getting two different hospital jobs and being a finalist candidate in many other hospital positions they all like that I had already worked for a hospital in the past and that is the real reason they called me back.

 

[Boba Foot]

This has been a very frustrating aspect for myself and few of my friends who were looking for jobs. If I am board certified, will that make me competitive? I mean I don't understand I am comfortable doing most elective surgeries and I have my logs to prove that. Fellowship in pod is NOT the same as ortho and nobody outside of our profession gets that.

You're telling me that a podiatry "fellowship" through Balance Health is not on the same level as an ortho fellowship through a respected teaching hospital system?

 

[Feli]

This has been a very frustrating aspect for myself and few of my friends who were looking for jobs. If I am board certified, will that make me competitive? I mean I don't understand I am comfortable doing most elective surgeries and I have my logs to prove that. Fellowship in pod is NOT the same as ortho and nobody outside of our profession gets that.

If you mean Abpm cert, that is nothing... every graduating resident has that (and "logs to prove" - real or mostly faked). If you mean Abfas cert, then yeah, that is basically a minimum req for most hospital podiatry jobs (Abfas cert or Abfas qual + good training/connections). Just like residency or fellowswhips, our boards are confusing and highly varied. Logs are fine and should be used, but people fake them... talk with residency director and Abfas pass is usually more important.

As @Retrograde_Nail , there is almost ALWAYS a podiatrist behind the scenes telling HR what to do, how to write the job post, who to interview, who to hire, all of that. This applies from VAs to big city hospitals to anything inbetween and can't be underestimated. Try to figure out who that person is and get in touch. At minimum, know all about them when you interview/visit (where they trained, what kind of work is there, the area, etc). It might be a TFP, and it might be a highly trained pod, but they are critical to your chances. That will be your lynch pin to possibly getting the job.

The two main types of hospital podiatry jobs are obviously pus bus (mostly wound/amp stuff, little bone/joint) or basically full scope (minimal ortho presence, more bone/joint/trauma, usually rural - but not always). For the rural jobs, key selling point is you know the area and might be willing to stay awhile; for other jobs, connections and skills are the main thing. At either, you need to impress and appear like you'd work well with the existing DPM(s). Again, find out who the DPM who is running the hiring is. There are rare exceptions where a tiny hospital CEO or MD or HR person or whoever is hiring a podiatrist - and maybe they've never employed one, but that's rare (residents/fellow DPMs cold call to absolutely every possible place now). There is usually a DPM pulling the strings - even when they're not visible much, or at all. Realize that and make the connection any way possible if you want the employed DPM hospital jobs.

 

[dtrack22]

This has been a very frustrating aspect for myself and few of my friends who were looking for jobs. If I am board certified, will that make me competitive? I mean I don't understand I am comfortable doing most elective surgeries and I have my logs to prove that. Fellowship in pod is NOT the same as ortho and nobody outside of our profession gets that.

Have you tried an HCA facility? I heard they can’t find any podiatrists looking for employment…

 

[Bluecollarmed]

I’m not fellowship trained because I had the opportunity to get into a hospital without it but the hospital still had “preferred”. Timing is a huge factor for some of these hospitals. I know myself and multiple friends who got hospital jobs because a local pod was retiring/leaving and the hospital admin realized volume would be lost or got smart and realized they should own the volume. As others have said it’s a crapshoot. My hospital selected me over people with experience and new grads including fellowship. I sold ties to the area. No referral or any previous knowledge the hospital even existed. Hospitals want to hire one good doc and never think about filling that position again. If there’s a pod behind the scenes then yes there will be hoops or gating involved. Let’s be honest wouldn’t we all if you built a well-respected practice at a hospital and you’re sticking your name on a new hire?

 

[air bud]

Hospital jobs and admin who post these jobs don't even know what fellowship training in podiatry even means. The only reason they request fellowship trained DPM is because its being requested by the employed DPM already there. That is the real reason.

In my experience from getting two different hospital jobs and being a finalist candidate in many other hospital positions they all like that I had already worked for a hospital in the past and that is the real reason they called me back.

Yes, as we've talked about rural is getting harder and harder but that's one of the biggest advantages of going rural is you have that notch in your belt of saying hospital employed podiatrist. At that point it doesn't matter if your fellowship or not once your rear foot certified with hospital experience it's a matter of time before you find another hospital job.
Source: trust me bro I've had now five different hospital jobs.

 

[Sole Badguy]

I mean why wouldn’t the hospital include fellowship preferred? They aren’t going to pay ortho money anyways so might as well have better marketing. They also assume a fellowship trained pod is better (obviously we know this to not always be true). Even if the fellowship trained foot and ankle surgeon isn’t doing anything besides forefoot and pus bus, what are they going to do, leave?!

If a fully ABFAS qualified pod takes such a job - can they even get fully certified with just pus bus procedures? If not, what a waste of time for that applicant pod, they can do better - and maybe will once they get experience and get out of there when a new better job comes around

If a fully ABFAS certified pod takes such a job - imagine being capable enough to do rearfoot procedures but being limited to only driving the pus bus which 90% of all pods can do (ABFAS, ABPM, whatever). What a waste of talent and time/effort for that applicant pod, they can do better - and absolutely should since there's more money to gain from offering more services

Fellowship is basically a year of officially documented training - if nothing else, I guess that counts for better work experience than being a PP slave

I don't know what actual job responsibilities the job in question has for the pod - the listing doesn't really say. But IF this job is a regular old pus bus job that *requires* ABFAS qual/cert and a fellowship, that's just a lot of stupid going around. Stupid for the applicant (see above). Stupid on the job posting hospital for not doing their research. Stupid on any pod(s) already at that hospital demanding a specific board and fellowship if the patient load doesn't support it. Then again, podiatry is stupid so what did I expect

 

[Aresnebula]

If you mean Abpm cert, that is nothing... every graduating resident has that (and "logs to prove" - real or mostly faked). If you mean Abfas cert, then yeah, that is basically a minimum req for most hospital podiatry jobs (Abfas cert or Abfas qual + good training/connections). Just like residency or fellowswhips, our boards are confusing and highly varied. Logs are fine and should be used, but people fake them... talk with residency director and Abfas pass is usually more important.

As @Retrograde_Nail , there is almost ALWAYS a podiatrist behind the scenes telling HR what to do, how to write the job post, who to interview, who to hire, all of that. This applies from VAs to big city hospitals to anything inbetween and can't be underestimated. Try to figure out who that person is and get in touch. At minimum, know all about them when you interview/visit (where they trained, what kind of work is there, the area, etc). It might be a TFP, and it might be a highly trained pod, but they are critical to your chances. That will be your lynch pin to possibly getting the job.

The two main types of hospital podiatry jobs are obviously pus bus (mostly wound/amp stuff, little bone/joint) or basically full scope (minimal ortho presence, more bone/joint/trauma, usually rural - but not always). For the rural jobs, key selling point is you know the area and might be willing to stay awhile; for other jobs, connections and skills are the main thing. At either, you need to impress and appear like you'd work well with the existing DPM(s). Again, find out who the DPM who is running the hiring is. There are rare exceptions where a tiny hospital CEO or MD or HR person or whoever is hiring a podiatrist - and maybe they've never employed one, but that's rare (residents/fellow DPMs cold call to absolutely every possible place now). There is usually a DPM pulling the strings - even when they're not visible much, or at all. Realize that and make the connection any way possible if you want the employed DPM hospital jobs.

I am ABFAS qualified in both foot and rearfoot and I thought that would help, but didn't! I just ended up taking a PP job and said fck it. Funny thing is the moment I took that job, a hospital wanted to interview me. Of course I didn't respond but it makes me sooo mad because I rejected lots of decent PP offers hoping a hospital will come through. I decided I am gonna see what my current job takes me then hopefully a VA will open up or I can have the courage to start on my own afterwards. I hate podiatry, I wish I did something else.