Does anyone have last weeks rankings so we can compare? (as pointless as it might be, it might be a platform for discussion!)
thank you!
thank you!
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Originally posted by gsx56
Does anyone have last weeks rankings so we can compare? (as pointless as it might be, it might be a platform for discussion!)
thank you!
Last "Week"'s ranking? Well I'm afraid US News' not greedy enough to pump out ranking every week for purchase...
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Sometimes previous matriculants who came from your ugrad can negatively influence a school's decision by poor performance which, in adcoms' minds, reflects poor preparation by the ugrad.
Originally posted by gsx56
Does anyone have last weeks rankings so we can compare? (as pointless as it might be, it might be a platform for discussion!)
thank you!
haha, is that the next step? the 800 lb us news gorilla will move to weekly rankings to enslave us
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Thanks SoulRFlare. You rock.
Originally posted by Mr Reddly
Not really. I'd gladly give up my 24th ranked school for a 49th and even for a certain unnamed 53-60th ranked school
...location...location...location.
I'd give that same #24 school for andy of the three with the word "California" in its name ranked below that one as well. but alas, no love.
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could someone post the Emory stats, like residency dir. scores ,etc?
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Originally posted by Mr Reddly
Not really. I'd gladly give up my 24th ranked school for a 49th and even for a certain unnamed 53-60th ranked school
...location...location...location.
24th-ranked....Is it Case or Sinai or something??
And we all know you LOVE California
and oh yea, I think I'm set on going to UCLA now
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I guess that whole financial debt fiasco thing didn't affect its ranking.
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i found it interesting case increased their research $ by 30%+ or something w/ the cleveland clinic acquisition, yet didn't incnrease in ranking.
-baylor actually lose research funding
-utsw has a higher peer/residency score than baylor
-baylor actually lose research funding
-utsw has a higher peer/residency score than baylor
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I believe if I understand it correctly Baylor didnt lose research funding persay, it had extra research funding after the floods and I think those expired this past cycle. So if anything, the previous 2-3 years research funding numbers were inflated.
UTSW has always had a higher peer/residency score than Baylor. In fact, Baylor's peer and residency scores are lower than similarly ranked schools.
Case didnt "buy" or "take over" the Cleveland Clinic did it? I thought Lerner was seperate from Case at least as an institution? They just seem to be more distant than Harvard and its affiliates, at least based on what I read.
Case didnt "buy" Lerner. Lerner considered a program within CWRU located at the cleveland clinic campus. The administration is Case and the degree granting institution is Case. You could liken it to the UCB/UCSF JMP.
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hey, can someone give me the history of baylor coll of med? i.e. why does it have a lower reputaiton than utsw? on the interview history last year, i remember one student mention that baylor university sold the college of medicine to someone (rice?). baylor/utsw reminds me of situation w/ stanford/ucsf (i.e. top public/private schools in one state).
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Im not sure why Baylor has a lower reputation than UTSW, though I think Baylor's name is TERRIBLE because many people feel its affiliated with the undergrad which its not.
http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/view/BB/kbb7.html
Of note is that Baylor COM was in fact supposed to be where UTSW currently resides (until it moved to Houston). Baylor COM was not sold, but moved to Houston in order to seperate from the undergrad fully, as well as the increased local funding inducement to go to Houston, and had a new charter that basically treats Baylor COM like any other TX medical school with the exception that 75% instead of 90% of students must be in-state (hence the tuition being the same for Baylor, and Baylor in fact being on TMDSAS until recently). Baylor is NOT affiliated with Rice in any direct way (though you can get joint degrees, etc).
None of that really sheds any light on the rankings really, and its kinda weird, all the people I know that got into both UTSW and Baylor chose Baylor, even though UTSW apparently has a better residency rep. There was a thread a while back speculating while Baylor had a lower residency director rank, including some of my own guesses, but its kinda a mystery to be honest. If you look at the match list thread in Allo, Baylor has a lot of competitive matches (and the actual list has a lot of competitive hospitals), though I would say that a disporportionate number stay in TX compared to other schools.
But in terms of the Baylor-UTSW difference in residency ranking, Im not sure. UTSW has a dominating internal medicine and basic sciences, but for most other things, the Baylor/TMC hospitals are more highly regarded. And since a good number of people match to their med school's residency programs, you would think that would reflect well on the school. So your guess is as good as mind.
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Gleevec's post is very comprehensive, but I think there are a few more pertinent facts. TMC is the largest medical center on the face of the planet, literally, and it encompasses some very good hospitals like MD Anderson and Texas Childrens. I might speculate that Baylor students able to do rotations in these places might learn a little more than UTSW's Parkland (whose neonatal ward is quite good in its own right). The fact that Baylor can accept more out-of-state students suggests that these same students may not be as committed to remaining in Texas for residency as UTSW's, which may give the Baylor name more exposure.
One reason why people might tend to choose Baylor over Southwestern is location. Dallas might be right for those accustomed to wide-open spaces, but Houston feels marginally more cosmopolitan and centered for those seeking a city proper.
Interesting point about the flood though. I hadn't thought of that.
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anybody have the 60-70?
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Yeah and the INSIDE is so much better. Tons of cows from "Cows on Parade" lots of good artwork. Definitely the best children's hospital Ive seen in that regard.
And the thing it, TCH is still growing.
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it's not entirely objective though... 40% of the grade comes from subjective data. 30% of the grade comes from counting only NIH monies...though many schools have thousands if not millions of dollars in private monies that aren't being counted. things like mean mcats and gpas are there....but pretty useless to draw inferences from, since schools accept a much broader range of mcat and gpas.
the rankings make for good magazine sales, amusing reading, long threads and good toilet paper...but i wouldn't pick a school based on them.
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I know some of us were wondering about peer assessment scores, but too cheap to get the PREMIUM edition of US News...anyway this is from 2005, but it gives you an idea. I wish they had listed the scores for every school though!
If anyone has access to the 2006 version, could you please list the scores for Dartmouth, OSU, UVA, URoch, UPitt, Vandy, and Emory...I'm especially curious about Dartmouth's because someone was saying their peer assessment score was "bad." Thanks
Edit: Whoops, never mind. The OP just listed the PA and RD scores for the first 10 schools. After that, he just listed the schools in order of rank...which we can all access, premium or not. Darn.
If anyone has access to the 2006 version, could you please list the scores for Dartmouth, OSU, UVA, URoch, UPitt, Vandy, and Emory...I'm especially curious about Dartmouth's because someone was saying their peer assessment score was "bad." Thanks
Edit: Whoops, never mind. The OP just listed the PA and RD scores for the first 10 schools. After that, he just listed the schools in order of rank...which we can all access, premium or not. Darn.
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Rank School Peer Res
1. Harvard 4.9/4.8
2. JHU 4.9/4.8
3. Wash U 4.6/4.4
4. UPenn 4.6/4.4
5. UCSF 4.7/4.5
6. Duke 4.7/4.6
7. UWash 4.4/4.1
8. Stanford 4.6/4.5
9. UMich 4.5/4.5
10. Columbia 4.3/4.4
11. UCLA 4.1/4.0
11. Yale 4.3/4.3
13. Baylor 3.9/3.9
14. Cornell 4.1/4.2
14. UCSD 4.0/3.9
16. UPitt 4.0/4.0
17. UT-Dallas 4.3/4.1
17. Vanderbilt 4.1/4.0
19. UChi-Pritzker 4.0/4.1
20. Case Western 3.7/3.8
20. Emory 3.9/4.0
20. Northwestern 3.8/4.0
23. Mayo 3.7/4.1
23. UAB 3.9/3.8
23. UNC 3.9/4.0
26. UVa 3.7/3.9
26. UWisc 3.6/3.8
28. BU 3.2/3.5
28. Iowa 3.7/3.8
30. Colorado 3.6/3.5
30. Rochester 3.6/3.6
32. Siani 3.4/3.6
32. NYU 3.4/3.7
32. USC 3.3/3.4
35. Dartmouth 3.4/3.8
35. Oregon 3.4/3.4
37. Ohio State 3.1/3.4
38. UMinn 3.4/3.6
38. Yeshiva 3.3/3.4
40. Brown 3.1/3.6
41. Cinnci 3.1/3.3
41. Wake 3.2/3.4
43. Tufts 3.4/3.7
43. Maryland 3.2/3.3
45. Indiana 3.4/3.5
46. Georgetown 2.9/3.5
46. UCD 3.1/3.3
46. UCI 2.8/3.2
46. Florida 3.1/3.2
46. UMass 3.0/3.1
1. Harvard 4.9/4.8
2. JHU 4.9/4.8
3. Wash U 4.6/4.4
4. UPenn 4.6/4.4
5. UCSF 4.7/4.5
6. Duke 4.7/4.6
7. UWash 4.4/4.1
8. Stanford 4.6/4.5
9. UMich 4.5/4.5
10. Columbia 4.3/4.4
11. UCLA 4.1/4.0
11. Yale 4.3/4.3
13. Baylor 3.9/3.9
14. Cornell 4.1/4.2
14. UCSD 4.0/3.9
16. UPitt 4.0/4.0
17. UT-Dallas 4.3/4.1
17. Vanderbilt 4.1/4.0
19. UChi-Pritzker 4.0/4.1
20. Case Western 3.7/3.8
20. Emory 3.9/4.0
20. Northwestern 3.8/4.0
23. Mayo 3.7/4.1
23. UAB 3.9/3.8
23. UNC 3.9/4.0
26. UVa 3.7/3.9
26. UWisc 3.6/3.8
28. BU 3.2/3.5
28. Iowa 3.7/3.8
30. Colorado 3.6/3.5
30. Rochester 3.6/3.6
32. Siani 3.4/3.6
32. NYU 3.4/3.7
32. USC 3.3/3.4
35. Dartmouth 3.4/3.8
35. Oregon 3.4/3.4
37. Ohio State 3.1/3.4
38. UMinn 3.4/3.6
38. Yeshiva 3.3/3.4
40. Brown 3.1/3.6
41. Cinnci 3.1/3.3
41. Wake 3.2/3.4
43. Tufts 3.4/3.7
43. Maryland 3.2/3.3
45. Indiana 3.4/3.5
46. Georgetown 2.9/3.5
46. UCD 3.1/3.3
46. UCI 2.8/3.2
46. Florida 3.1/3.2
46. UMass 3.0/3.1
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everyone has been so helpful tonight. I wasn't expecting any responses. Thanks! It's interesting how Tufts has pretty high peer/res scores despite its low rank. The painfully high tuition must contribute to its low rank... Dakota said:
