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Did you ask them the status of your application or just if they were still sending out invites. When I called I asked them both.. and they said my application did not qualify for an interview.. so I wonder if I'm out of this group now.. or if they are now re-evaluating?

I didn't ask about my application specifically, but when I asked why my status hadn't changed they said they set aside some applicants that they were reevaluating. They may just have set it aside in the maybe pile... I'm gonna be hopeful for us, the woman said to expect phone calls as they probably won't be emailing and may be last minute notice. Also, the first woman I spoke to was very general and said yes they were done but when I told her my status online hadn't changed she transferred me to someone who was more reassuring that they hadn't finished deciding on who's interviewing from that pool. Good luck! I've got my fingers crossed for the rest of us!
 
Alright guys, this will be long. At the workshop I attended on Wednesday I took four pages of notes and was given two handouts for tips about the interview, so bear with me. I hope you find this helpful!

From My Notes
Your General Demeanor:
-They are looking for REAL people- DON'T LIE
-Be confident, but not cocky. It's okay to schmooze a little and be proud of who you are, but don't cross the line into arrogance.
-RELAX and sell yourself. If you have any hint of shyness, beat it out of yourself before you get into that room. You are on the verge of getting into vet school. If you are quiet and meek, the interviewers are going to do everything they can to get you out of that room. If you are enthusiastic and confident, they're going to do everything they can to keep you in that room.
-DON'T worry about things you can no longer control; ie. your GPA, GRE, reference letters, etc. You made it past the computers already, so you're good enough. Worrying won't do anything, so just roll with whatever you have.
-Act, dress, and speak like an adult. When you meet your interviewers/walk into the room, shake their hands firmly (but don't squash their hands), look them in the eye, smile brightly, introduce yourself, say "nice to meet you Dr. So and So," and express how happy you are to be there.
-Walk into that room saying over and over to yourself "I'm Ready For This."
-Realize that they have your information, they know ABOUT you. During the interviews they are testing your behaviors.
-Be bubbling out of your skin excited to be there! Sit up tall and SMILE! It's impossible to be scared or sad with a smile on your face!
-NEVER act tired.

Interview Specifics
-They are SWITCHING THINGS UP THIS YEAR. In the past years, interviewers have kind of been given free rein to ask what they want, but this year, GENERALLY EVERYBODY WILL BE ASKED THE SAME QUESTIONS. This is to even the playing field and make it more fair. For example, in previous years they have asked people about BSE, when maybe not everyone is familiar with BSE but they might know about something else. Therefore, they are asking a different question in that regard, which leads me into some SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT YOU CAN BET WILL BE ASKED.
1.) Name 4 or 5 current events that relate to vet med. Extrapolate on the one you know the most about.
2.) How have you demonstrated leadership abilities? Don't just say "I was President of this club," but tell WHAT you did in that position to lead the group. It also doesn't have to be a club membership either. Think outside the box. There are lots of ways to demonstrate leadership.
3.) Questions about integrity will come up.
4.) Tell me about a stressful time in your life and how you handled it. It DOES NOT have to be a tragedy. It's okay if you've not really had anything too terribly stressful in your life, but whatever you do, DON'T make something up!
5.) What do you know about the finances of veterinary medicine? They CANNOT ask you specifically how you plan to pay for vet school, but they DO want to know that you have thought about it, know how much it will cost, and what implications that has. Also good to know starting salaries.
6.) How will you achieve work/life balance so you don't burn out?
7.) What are the daily time committments of vet school? Talk to some current vet students so you know what you're getting into and can articulate that to your interviewers.
8.) Know 10 reasons you want to go to The Ohio State University College of Veterinary Medicine. Obviously they probably won't ask you to rattle these off, but keep them in the back of your mind just in case.
9.) Know the basics about the vet school. What the CVM is known for, when it was founded, how many faculty and students, when they last had published research. (All of this can be found on the website.)
10.) Know the different facets of veterinary medicine. THEY UNDERSTAND that you don't have time to explore every single thing, but know the scope of the field, especially beyond private practice. Be able to say "well, I didn't have time to actually work in that sector of veterinary medicine, but I did do a little research on it (or spoke with someone who works in that field) and here is what I know about it."
11.) DON'T say you aren't interested in something (ie. I'm not interested in working with small animals, I'm not interested in research, etc.). Sometimes when you're in vet school, and internship, or out in private practice you DON'T get to choose what you do-sometimes you're told what to do and you have to do it, so you'd best learn at least a little something about everything.
12.) At the end of the interview they will ask if you have any questions for them. Try to have one prepared in case one doesn't pop into your head during the interview. If you honestly don't have a question don't just say "Nope, I'm good!" Think on it for a minute, then say "You know what, I think I have everything I need. I have really enjoyed this process and speaking with you today has been a pleasure."
13.) They may also ask you if there is anything they didn't bring up in the interview that you'd like to talk about. If there is, by all means bring it up! If not, see the response to question 12.

General Interview Tips
-PRACTICE!
-Do mock interviews with friends, family, academic advisers, etc.
-KNOW EVERYTHING on your application.
-Know the answers to the tough questions.
-Turn the negatives into positives. For example, if asked about a bad grade, explain it, but then turn it around and talk about how it was a learning experience for you, or how it turned out for the better. KEEP EVERYTHING POSITIVE.
-MANIPULATE the questions. If you don't know something, don't just say "I don't know." Say "I don't know about that, but I DO know about this..." or "I don't know about that, but here is my best guess..."
-Above all, be HONEST if you don't know. DO NOT try and make something up.
-Know why you are a better candidate than whoever walks in the door after you, and be able to explain that to your interviewers.

Verbal Communication
-Tone of voice-be excited and happy!
-Rate of speech-enunciate and slooowww dowwnn.
-Empasis-Emphasize the things that are very important to you.
-Qualify your language. Use ACTION verbs that are colorful and exciting, such as "accomplished," "achieved," and "supervised."
-Quantify your language. KNOW how many hours you did at what job/experience.
-Remember that there are no wrong or right answers in most cases, it's all in HOW you say it!

Non-Verbal Communication
-Posture- SIT UP! It shows you're confident!
-Eye contact-Use lots of it! It helps to build your confidence.
-Facial expressions-Be very aware of them and what feelings you're portraying with them. The goal is to personify enthusiasm.
-Gestures-These should be very limited but you may use them to provide emphasis when you really need it.
-SMILE-A smile can be seen from 300 feet away. It builds trust.
-Personal space-don't invade the interviewers' "flight zones."
-Listen attentively.

Clothing
-Wear a power suit! It should be a conservative color, should fit well, and be a good, quality suit. If ladies want to add a little pop of color with their blouse, that is appropriate. A little heel on your shoes is also okay, it makes you feel taller and more authoratative, thus increasing your confidence.
-Be subdued and very professional. Do NOT look like you're going to a party or out to dinner. This is a purely professional endeavor.
-Don't figet. Put a little something in your hands if you need.
-No fancy nails! Keep them plain (bright colors draw attention to your hands, especially if you are fidgeting). Also, short is best! The vet who gave this workshop said his impression of a girl with long nails is that she's never worked a day in her life.
-Nothing too low-cut. The vet said this isn't even an issue of showing too much skin, but the fact that lots of people get red splotches on their chest and neck when they're nervous can be distracting to the interviewers.
-As far as PIERCINGS go, they can't tell you whether or not to take them out, but just know that if you want to be safe, conservative is best. One pair of SMALL earrings in the earlobes is acceptable. To be safe, you should remove all other piercings. EVEN IF THE HOLE IS VISIBLE, the interviewers will appreciate the fact that you had the decency to remove the jewelery before the interview.

If You Don't Get In
-Know that there are other schools to try for.
-The first thing to check if you are rejected is your REFERENCES.

At the moment I can't locate the handouts we were given (I think they're on the couch in my apartment and I am currently on campus in the library) but they pretty much reiterate a lot of the above points. Now, take everything with a grain of salt, these are just from on person, but that person IS on the admissions committee (and is an interviewer) so these are straight from the horse's mouth. Obviously the list of questions and stuff is by no means exclusive and you may or may not be asked all those questions plus others. These are merely here to help you and I guarantee nothing! But if nothing else I hope this makes you guys feel a little more confident and prepared! :xf:

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I have something to say in response to Ellie's list. Most of it was really useful, but the only part I disagree with is the dress. I know people (girls obvi), who went in red or blue top/skirt suits, people with nose/eyebrow piercings and one girl even had her sternum pierced, and they are all in my class. Yes, they want you to look professional, but if everyone comes in with a grey suit, a small pair of diamond earrings, black small heels and a binder full of bull****, they will not take you. They want people with personalities, not just the ability to conform to what we think they want. So while APPROPRIATE is good, boring is not. Wear some colors, wear some jewelry, paint your nails if you want (maybe not metallic purple, but red/pink whatever should be fine). Be yourself, or the adcoms will wish they hadn't accepted you, as they have told other classes (TRUE STORY).
 
I must be part of the "re-evaluated" group because I got a phone call today inviting me for an interview! Yay! I had pretty much already written off OSU; I knew this was the last week they'd probably be sending invites, and it's not my IS anyhow. But I'm totally pumped! 4pm on December 14... not much time to prepare!
 
Thanks for the tips EllieGirl! I was just thinking that, while I did see the first year curriculum on the website, I wasn't really sure about the actual day to day schedule of the first year vet students. How long is the average day of classes? Anyone want to comment on that? I'd really appreciate it.🙂
 
I have something to say in response to Ellie's list. Most of it was really useful, but the only part I disagree with is the dress. I know people (girls obvi), who went in red or blue top/skirt suits, people with nose/eyebrow piercings and one girl even had her sternum pierced, and they are all in my class. Yes, they want you to look professional, but if everyone comes in with a grey suit, a small pair of diamond earrings, black small heels and a binder full of bull****, they will not take you. They want people with personalities, not just the ability to conform to what we think they want. So while APPROPRIATE is good, boring is not. Wear some colors, wear some jewelry, paint your nails if you want (maybe not metallic purple, but red/pink whatever should be fine). Be yourself, or the adcoms will wish they hadn't accepted you, as they have told other classes (TRUE STORY).

That's why I said the list should be taken with a grain of salt. There are exceptions to everything. Again, everything I typed was stated by a member of the admissions committee, someone who could be interviewing any one of us in the next couple of weeks. He is probably one of the more conservative individuals on the admissions committee, but I for one wouldn't want to risk it. I can be myself while still being in a grey suit with small black heels with tiny diamond earrings. I can't wear a skirtsuit anyway because I've got a tattoo on my right ankle. It's what I've got up in my head that I hope will impress the admissions committee, and I don't want anything to distract from that.

So again, for those of you interviewing, take from this what you will, and you may or may not agree with it. But it's the actual advice from a member of the admissions committee, so keep that in mind when deciding how you want to prepare and how you plan on presenting yourself 🙂
 
How long is the average day of classes?
I'm sure current first years will comment when they take a study break, but it's generally 8-2 or 8-3 fall quarter first year, with an hour break from 12-1 for lunch.
 
Thank you so much for posting that EllieGirl!!! :bow: You are the best!!! And now I think I'll join squibby :bang:
 
Thank you so much for posting that EllieGirl!!! :bow: You are the best!!! And now I think I'll join squibby :bang:

Want to take turns being the banana?
:diebanana:
 
No problem guys =) Now...am I missing something? lol I don't understand why we're all pounding our heads against brick walls and beating bananas (erm...).
 
No problem guys =) Now...am I missing something? lol I don't understand why we're all pounding our heads against brick walls and beating bananas (erm...).

B/c we think we're going to be a bunch of stammering idiots in unacceptable clothing who blow our chance at getting into vet school? I am SO not looking forward to this interview. ( I am looking forward to seeing the school, tho.')
 
B/c we think we're going to be a bunch of stammering idiots in unacceptable clothing who blow our chance at getting into vet school? I am SO not looking forward to this interview. ( I am looking forward to seeing the school, tho.')

Precisely.

Would any one of you be available to beat the "shy" out of me?
 
🙁 I didn't mean to make you guys feel more nervous. I thought it would help. When he said to "beat the shy out of yourself," he extrapolated saying that you somehow need to mentally get past your shyness before you get into that room. He said if you go into the room shy, you'll eventually get comfortable, but by that time it will be too late because your interview will be nearly over.

I know you guys are going to do awesome.
 
I want you guys to know that I completely understand what you are going through, but there really is no need to freak out.

The night before my interview I was so panicked and nervous that I didn't sleep. At all. Not a single wink. And the more I didn't sleep, the more I freaked out about going to the interview as foggy-headed, sleep-deprived idiot. And then I couldn't sleep even more. And the cycle continued.

I had built it up in my head that the Great Big Awesome Vet School would never want tiny, flawed, insignificant me. I thought about how my entire future rested on a 30 minute conversation, and that was 1800 seconds of an opportunity to do something stupid around these Gods of Veterinary Medicine.

After my interview, I felt soooo silly for thinking this way.

You need to remember your interviewers really are just human beings. I've talked to some of them about it, and they actually get nervous about interviews too. That's right, they are also nervous about interviewing you! They really are just people, and they want to have a friendly conversation with you to try and determine that you aren't a complete sociopath, that you are pleasant person that we would like to have around for four years, and that you understand the profession and know what you are getting into.

Being a little nervous can actually be a good thing! At least this shows that this is something that is important to you, and you are taking it seriously. Believe it or not, I have heard of interviewees that act bored, arrogant, or indifferent. That is a terrible impression to make, but that won't be you!

Go into that interview room smiling and ready to have a good conversation getting to know some new people. After all, you have been given an opportunity that others have not. They gave you an interview because you are awesome, so act like it! I actually had fun during my interview, and trust me, that was the last thing I expected.

And guess what: every other applicant there is also a flawed human being with their own weaknesses. You do NOT have to be perfect. You just have to be you, and know that you DO have a lot to offer.

Maybe all of this was already apparent to you. But it wasn't to me a few years ago. I thought I could help out anyone who is as anxious as I was.

P.S. Many of my classmates have told me stories about the stupid and embarrassing things they said during their interview. They still got in! The important thing is to be able to laugh at yourself and not take yourself too seriously.

P.P.S. Try not to freak out too much about the clothing. Just don't go in there looking like you are heading to a night club, and you will be fine. I honestly don't think my interviewers noticed my shoes or my earrings. They were too busy focusing on what I was saying.
 
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I didn't ask about my application specifically, but when I asked why my status hadn't changed they said they set aside some applicants that they were reevaluating. They may just have set it aside in the maybe pile... I'm gonna be hopeful for us, the woman said to expect phone calls as they probably won't be emailing and may be last minute notice. Also, the first woman I spoke to was very general and said yes they were done but when I told her my status online hadn't changed she transferred me to someone who was more reassuring that they hadn't finished deciding on who's interviewing from that pool. Good luck! I've got my fingers crossed for the rest of us!

Thanks so much for posting this! I guess I may assume I'm in the 'reevaluate' or 'maybe' pile as my status on the portal does not show denied. Seems there's a glimmer of hope... Best of luck to all of those left in the shallow end of the pool! :luck:
 
I want you guys to know that I completely understand what you are going through, but there really is no need to freak out.

The night before my interview I was so panicked and nervous that I didn't sleep. At all. Not a single wink. And the more I didn't sleep, the more I freaked out about going to the interview as foggy-headed, sleep-deprived idiot. And then I couldn't sleep even more. And the cycle continued.

I had built it up in my head that the Great Big Awesome Vet School would never want tiny, flawed, insignificant me. I thought about how my entire future rested on a 30 minute conversation, and that was 1800 seconds of an opportunity to do something stupid around these Gods of Veterinary Medicine.

After my interview, I felt soooo silly for thinking this way.

You need to remember your interviewers really are just human beings. I've talked to some of them about it, and they actually get nervous about interviews too. That's right, they are also nervous about interviewing you! They really are just people, and they want to have a friendly conversation with you to try and determine that you aren't a complete sociopath, that you are pleasant person that we would like to have around for four years, and that you understand the profession and know what you are getting into.

Being a little nervous can actually be a good thing! At least this shows that this is something that is important to you, and you are taking it seriously. Believe it or not, I have heard of interviewees that act bored, arrogant, or indifferent. That is a terrible impression to make, but that won't be you!

Go into that interview room smiling and ready to have a good conversation getting to know some new people. After all, you have been given an opportunity that others have not. They gave you an interview because you are awesome, so act like it! I actually had fun during my interview, and trust me, that was the last thing I expected.

And guess what: every other applicant there is also a flawed human being with their own weaknesses. You do NOT have to be perfect. You just have to be you, and know that you DO have a lot to offer.

Maybe all of this was already apparent to you. But it wasn't to me a few years ago. I thought I could help out anyone who is as anxious as I was.

P.S. Many of my classmates have told me stories about the stupid and embarrassing things they said during their interview. They still got in! The important thing is to be able to laugh at yourself and not take yourself too seriously.

P.P.S. Try not to freak out too much about the clothing. Just don't go in there looking like you are heading to a night club, and you will be fine. I honestly don't think my interviewers noticed my shoes or my earrings. They were too busy focusing on what I was saying.

Thank you. That was a very helpful and encouraging post. Most of all, thank you for reminding me to take my Ambien with me on the trip!
 
There are rumors circulating that Ohio State is increasing their class size by 20-22 seats (currently at 140), FWIW. That would be consistent with the 10-30 additional interviews.
 
Wow, where did you hear that silver spyder? That's really interesting. Would those be IS or OOS seats?
 
There are rumors circulating that Ohio State is increasing their class size by 20-22 seats (currently at 140), FWIW. That would be consistent with the 10-30 additional interviews.

That is interesting, considering there isn't room for 25 more people in Dunlap or Wexner auditoriums.
 
That is interesting, considering there isn't room for 25 more people in Dunlap or Wexner auditoriums.

That was my first thought, too. Anatomy lab would also be quite a squeeze.

One of my residentmates said that when their class size increased, they added rows of seats to the front of the auditorium - and if you think the visibility of the screen from the front row of Dunlap is bad now...

As for how I found out, I am an OSU alum and received a mass email request to help interview additional applicants. The email said that they are short on interviewers because they have decided to increase the class size.

Not sure if they are IS or OOS seats. My guess is OOS, because budget concerns were mentioned as a contributing factor.
 
This is 100% correct.

See some of you later this month.....

That was my first thought, too. Anatomy lab would also be quite a squeeze.

One of my residentmates said that when their class size increased, they added rows of seats to the front of the auditorium - and if you think the visibility of the screen from the front row of Dunlap is bad now...

As for how I found out, I am an OSU alum and received a mass email request to help interview additional applicants. The email said that they are short on interviewers because they have decided to increase the class size.

Not sure if they are IS or OOS seats. My guess is OOS, because budget concerns were mentioned as a contributing factor.
 
I want you guys to know that I completely understand what you are going through, but there really is no need to freak out.

The night before my interview I was so panicked and nervous that I didn't sleep. At all. Not a single wink. And the more I didn't sleep, the more I freaked out about going to the interview as foggy-headed, sleep-deprived idiot. And then I couldn't sleep even more. And the cycle continued.

I had built it up in my head that the Great Big Awesome Vet School would never want tiny, flawed, insignificant me. I thought about how my entire future rested on a 30 minute conversation, and that was 1800 seconds of an opportunity to do something stupid around these Gods of Veterinary Medicine.

After my interview, I felt soooo silly for thinking this way.

You need to remember your interviewers really are just human beings. I've talked to some of them about it, and they actually get nervous about interviews too. That's right, they are also nervous about interviewing you! They really are just people, and they want to have a friendly conversation with you to try and determine that you aren't a complete sociopath, that you are pleasant person that we would like to have around for four years, and that you understand the profession and know what you are getting into.

Being a little nervous can actually be a good thing! At least this shows that this is something that is important to you, and you are taking it seriously. Believe it or not, I have heard of interviewees that act bored, arrogant, or indifferent. That is a terrible impression to make, but that won't be you!

Go into that interview room smiling and ready to have a good conversation getting to know some new people. After all, you have been given an opportunity that others have not. They gave you an interview because you are awesome, so act like it! I actually had fun during my interview, and trust me, that was the last thing I expected.

And guess what: every other applicant there is also a flawed human being with their own weaknesses. You do NOT have to be perfect. You just have to be you, and know that you DO have a lot to offer.

Maybe all of this was already apparent to you. But it wasn't to me a few years ago. I thought I could help out anyone who is as anxious as I was.

P.S. Many of my classmates have told me stories about the stupid and embarrassing things they said during their interview. They still got in! The important thing is to be able to laugh at yourself and not take yourself too seriously.

P.P.S. Try not to freak out too much about the clothing. Just don't go in there looking like you are heading to a night club, and you will be fine. I honestly don't think my interviewers noticed my shoes or my earrings. They were too busy focusing on what I was saying.
Thank you so much for the encouragement! I'm extremely nervous about my interview because this is so important and I don't want to screw it up. I feel a little better now though.
 
Wow. Doesn't Ohio State CVM already have the biggest class size in the U.S.? 140 already feels like a huge crowd. A class of 160 almost seems ridiculous.
 
Wow. Doesn't Ohio State CVM already have the biggest class size in the U.S.? 140 already feels like a huge crowd. A class of 160 almost seems ridiculous.

Yeah. A lot of schools are increasing class sizes to bring in more tuition dollars. The job market in Ohio is already saturated - increasing class size by 15% is not going to help for those of us who might want to practice there someday.
 
Yeah. A lot of schools are increasing class sizes to bring in more tuition dollars. The job market in Ohio is already saturated - increasing class size by 15% is not going to help for those of us who might want to practice there someday.

It all depends on what you want to do with your degree. The niche for small animal practitioners in large cities and their outlying suburbs is saturated but I know from living in the northeast part of the state, the southeast and the northwest, large animal practitioners are retiring and fewer vets are stepping in to take over their practices. I have heard that time and time again from people living in those areas. The salary and the desire to live in podunk towns may not be there for many vets, but the opportunity for work is definitely there.
 
I have serious doubts about OSUCVM increasing their class size, but if they do it will be no more than 5-10 students, and that is a serious squeeze. There is no room for additional students in the VMAB auditoriums that house 1st and 2nd years. The thought of adding additional rows is also ridiculous seeing as the first row is practically under the viewing area already. Although the possibility of interviewing more people is a different topic. I personally feel (and this is in no way to offend anyone) the addition of more than a few extra students would have negative impact on the other 142(ish) students in the class by impinging on a set (tight) space that cannot be changed. This not only includes classroom size, but also the space available in the hospital during clinics.

On a more positive note: Good Luck to all of you that are interviewing this year at OSUCVM.
 
Interesting. I already didn't care for the class size at Ohio. If it gets much larger, it may affect my decision to attend.
 
I have serious doubts about OSUCVM increasing their class size, but if they do it will be no more than 5-10 students.

I doubt the administration would be publicizing specifics if this was not already a done deal. The specific numbers I have heard (from high-level administrators) are 20-22 more seats.

I don't think it's an ideal solution, and I can almost guarantee it was not the first idea to pop into anyone's head, but the fact of the matter is that state support is estimated to drop another ~10% next year. The moral of the story: people need to be writing to legislators and asking them to increase funding for higher education. This is not a sustainable system for veterinary medical education.

(Does this count as a hijack yet?)
 
This is not a sustainable system for veterinary medical education.

No kidding!

We are already forced to go into astronomical amounts of debt because of lack of state support for education. Now if vet schools respond by not only increasing tuition (which OSU does every year!), but also increasing class sizes, won't this flood the market with too many veterinarians and cause salaries to drop even further?

*sigh*

I love this profession. I love this profession. I really do....
 
Correct again! I like the part about writing legislators. Gordon Gee is the man for getting things done for the university no matter who is in office. However, the economic climate combined with the general tendency for republicans to be unfriendly towards education spells big cuts for OSU. Dr. Gee will keep the hemorrhage to a minimum, but there is going to be hemorrhage to the tune of up to 12% .

To make up 12%, the money can come from : 1) Tuition 2) Indirect costs from research grants and 3) Fundraising. In the short run, tuition is the easiest way to make up some money, but even with adding 20 students, we still probably won't make the deficit.

20-22 students is spot-on. As far as the IS/OOS breakdown....those details have not been made public. I would guess that the ratio will reflect the current ratio.

Regardless of what happens, OSU will be in good shape relative to most of the other colleges of veterinary medicine. We receive quite a bit less of our funding from the state than most of the others from their states. They'll take bigger hits.



I doubt the administration would be publicizing specifics if this was not already a done deal. The specific numbers I have heard (from high-level administrators) are 20-22 more seats.

I don't think it's an ideal solution, and I can almost guarantee it was not the first idea to pop into anyone's head, but the fact of the matter is that state support is estimated to drop another ~10% next year. The moral of the story: people need to be writing to legislators and asking them to increase funding for higher education. This is not a sustainable system for veterinary medical education.

(Does this count as a hijack yet?)
 
This sounds like a very unfortunate situation. Making up losses in revenue by increasing tuition year after year has got to stop sometime. The addition of that many students (if the 20-22 addition is correct) is going to negatively affect the nature of OSU's quality of learning, not to a huge degree, but some none the less. All I can say is that this increase is not going to affect me.
 
I doubt the administration would be publicizing specifics if this was not already a done deal.

I do not know where you have received your information, but I am really surprised that it has not been divulged to the student body as of yet. I am also a bit shocked that they did not ask the student body for their thoughts regarding the issue seeing that we are often asked for our opinions on many matters.
 
I do not know where you have received your information, but I am really surprised that it has not been divulged to the student body as of yet. I am also a bit shocked that they did not ask the student body for their thoughts regarding the issue seeing that we are often asked for our opinions on many matters.

The dean announced it to the entire faculty last week.
The administration does what it needs to do. It's not like the faculty are crazy about this plan either. Let's see....more students to teach...same resources. It's a lose/lose, but these are the times that we live in.

This is an extraordinarily resourceful faculty who really care about veterinary education. OSU students will continue to get fantastic training, but times are tough and we are all making sacrifices.

Write to your legislators to support the OSU CVM. Our college toils in the shadows of massive programs on campus (i.e. the Med. School). Raise our profile - be squeaky wheels.
 
No matter what happens, the quality of information we learn will still be excellent, don't get me on that. Lets just say the comfort, or lack there of, is going to get a whole lot less comfortable. Again the size issue is my main squabble. Also as someone stated above, there is a lack of veterinary positions available on Ohio right now and adding more students is going to make the job market more scarce.
 
As an OOS applicant, this whole thing makes me very concerned. One of the (many) reasons I decided to apply to OSU is b/c I can get IS tuition after the first year. Sounds like this may change soon. I cannot attend if I have to pay OOS tuition all 4 years. I wonder if the school will be able to tell me for sure what the policy will be before I have to make my final decision in April.
 
As an OOS applicant, this whole thing makes me very concerned. One of the (many) reasons I decided to apply to OSU is b/c I can get IS tuition after the first year. Sounds like this may change soon. I cannot attend if I have to pay OOS tuition all 4 years. I wonder if the school will be able to tell me for sure what the policy will be before I have to make my final decision in April.

Whats suggested anything will change regarding students ability to get in-state tuition?
 
As an OOS applicant, this whole thing makes me very concerned. One of the (many) reasons I decided to apply to OSU is b/c I can get IS tuition after the first year. Sounds like this may change soon. I cannot attend if I have to pay OOS tuition all 4 years. I wonder if the school will be able to tell me for sure what the policy will be before I have to make my final decision in April.

This does not appear to be on the table right now, but here's why it's not likely to change from the status quo:

First year out-of-state tuition is ~60k and then goes down to 27K when you gain residency. If this difference is annualized over the four years in the program, the TOTAL cost of the education is about on-par with other institutions that do not let a student gain residency while in school. OSU basically gets all of the money up-front. If they got rid of the current residency rules, the school would become much less competitive for students if OOS tuition remained at such a high level. I don't see it changing, as the university wants to remain nationally competitive, and those residency rules are at the university-level rather than the college (of vet med) level.

You are justifiably concerned, nonetheless. Good luck.
 
I may or may not be a member of the Exec board of the group that put on that vet student panel tonight...;-)

I missed this meeting, unfortunately, because there was a (surprisingly sparsely attended) vet school interview workshop held in the Animal Science Building at the same time. But thank you and all the other vet students who came to talk and answer questions-I know it's VERY helpful to pre-vet students, especially the 1st and 2nd years who are very new to everything. I've been to three student panels myself.

And for those of you who I promised pointers from the workshop I went to--I actually took four pages of notes today at the workshop so I will condense those and focus on the really important parts and I will post a little something for you =) It was extremely, extremely helpful and made me feel a lot better about this whole process.


Hey, where did you hear about this?? I am so mad I missed it! thanks so much for posting your notes though, it is very helpful! I have a mock interview tomorrow (two actually) so I will post some things too in case it helps someone.
 
Hey, where did you hear about this?? I am so mad I missed it! thanks so much for posting your notes though, it is very helpful! I have a mock interview tomorrow (two actually) so I will post some things too in case it helps someone.

There were ads up for the interview workshop on Ag Campus. There was one on the clock tower near the eastbound bus stop and one inside the student center in Plumb Hall. I don't think they did a terribly good job of advertising it, especially because not everyone who is pre-vet has classes on Ag Campus, and I was very surprised that it was so sparsely attended...only about 15 pre-vet students. But they also held it at the same time as a pre-vet club meeting so that could have been a little detrimental. Anyway, I'm glad the notes helped, and good luck with your mock interviews!
 
Whats suggested anything will change regarding students ability to get in-state tuition?


The suggestion that the class size would increase due to the increased need for funds.

And even if initially the policy remains the same, I wonder if they can change it on someone after they've committed and/or begun their first year. I would certainly hope folks who'd already committed would be grandfathered in.

Scary thoughts these.
 
There were ads up for the interview workshop on Ag Campus. There was one on the clock tower near the eastbound bus stop and one inside the student center in Plumb Hall. I don't think they did a terribly good job of advertising it, especially because not everyone who is pre-vet has classes on Ag Campus, and I was very surprised that it was so sparsely attended...only about 15 pre-vet students. But they also held it at the same time as a pre-vet club meeting so that could have been a little detrimental. Anyway, I'm glad the notes helped, and good luck with your mock interviews!

that explains it... I don't go to any of those places... 😡
 
Thanks so much for posting this! I guess I may assume I'm in the 'reevaluate' or 'maybe' pile as my status on the portal does not show denied. Seems there's a glimmer of hope... Best of luck to all of those left in the shallow end of the pool! :luck:

I have been out of the sdn-loop (was studying for an exam, trying very hard to limit my obsessive checking) and so reading these posts gave me a heart-attack this morning.
I just called OSU to check on things because my status says "in review", and I only got general information but here is what I was told: it is a rolling admissions process, so they are likely done sending out interview invites right now, but if your application still says in review then there is still hope, an in January they will possibly be calling or e-mailing to invite some more people to interview.
so even though all hope is not lost, i will agree it doesn't look good.
 
does anyone know how long the interview is? and whether is group or one on one?
 
So here is what I was told today, and maybe it will be helpful.. the interviewers will ask several questions, but all are designed to answer just two simple ones:

1. will you make a good veterinary student (can u handle the academic aspect).. this means if you show up really nervous, they will say "oh you're nervous now? just wait till you get to the finals, etc... NEXT"

2. can they see you as a coworker down the line. So are you someone who knows what they want and are professional, are you honest, or are you trying to bs your way though things and try to answer each question based on what you think they want to hear and not based on what is actually the truth.

So just keep in mind that all questions are actually looking to answer these two main points, stay honest, and you should be ok!
 
So here is what I was told today, and maybe it will be helpful.. the interviewers will ask several questions, but all are designed to answer just two simple ones:

1. will you make a good veterinary student (can u handle the academic aspect).. this means if you show up really nervous, they will say "oh you're nervous now? just wait till you get to the finals, etc... NEXT"

2. can they see you as a coworker down the line. So are you someone who knows what they want and are professional, are you honest, or are you trying to bs your way though things and try to answer each question based on what you think they want to hear and not based on what is actually the truth.

So just keep in mind that all questions are actually looking to answer these two main points, stay honest, and you should be ok!

Thank you! Sometimes it's nice to see it from a more simplistic point of view and really step back to look at the big picture when we're so focused on the nitty-gritty details. You present a good perspective. Did you have mock interviews with academic advisors? How did they go?
 
Thank you! Sometimes it's nice to see it from a more simplistic point of view and really step back to look at the big picture when we're so focused on the nitty-gritty details. You present a good perspective. Did you have mock interviews with academic advisors? How did they go?

I did, and it showed me just how unprepared I really am, even though this is my third time around interviews... but that explains why I have trouble with them. The most important thing for me is to remember that I am not a professional just yet, and they DONT expect it. They just want to see that you think about things. Don't take a strong stance on things one way or the other, try to stay more neutral, because you don't know what side the interviewers are on. If you have different viewpoints, it turns into a battle of why things are the way they are and you will always lose. Just keep things simple, and on issues acknowledge that there are several different view points, but don't necessarily pick a side. This way you can say I understand it, and vet school will give me the tools to make an informed decision.

Make sure you don't try to make things up during the interview! I was trying to say things I thought my adviser was wanting to hear, but the second he asked me about them, I had nothing further to say since I never researched it... Once I gave him the honest answer though he said its just fine, even though it doesn't sound as good.

Sigh, now I have 4 days to get it together and hopefully not bomb this interview... Make sure you know your current events people! and not just the headlines but the actual issue because they will ask you in detail to see how much you pay attention to things! Doesn't have to be Ohio but its a good idea to be familiar with Ohio's animal laws and current issues like the whole HSUS issue.

The questions you have on the list you posted earlier from the workshop you went to are dead on. I got several of them. So that is an excellent thing to prepare for!
 
This is mostly for those who will apply again in the next cycle (I will try to post this over the summer too when the VMCAS opens) but I will write it here before I forget:

be very careful with how you label things on your VMCAS!!!!!! it can make all the difference! animal science does not equal science and will not be counted toward your science GPA! also double check that something is "other" just in case it is a science class after all. It seems trivial, but trust me, it can mean the difference between no interview and interview. The best bet is to go over it with an adviser who is familiar with the process, or to call the school and see where they would have you label a particular class.
 
Morning guys, I got a little more info today from a very unexpected place! One of the intructors who teaches a different section of a class I am in is actually an interviewer. I went to take the final for my class today and she was proctoring the exam. I overheard her talking to a kid from her class about how she saw who his interviewers were and that he'd be just fine. I smiled and said "Do you want to check that out for me?" I was totally joking, because I didn't even expect her to know who I was. I've only spoken to her a total of like, two times, including today. To my surprise, she said "Oh, I know I saw yours too...I can see the paper now...." She said should couldn't remember exactly who they were but told me I had nothing to worry about and would be fine. So whether or not she was just saying that, I feel a lot better.

Then, when I went to take my exam up, she asked when I was interviewing. I told her, and she said that so far they are interviewing 306 applicants. She said she saw some empty slots on the interview sheets, and that they want to interview 350 total this year. So guys, if you haven't received a rejection yet, there is still hope! She also said that they out of state applicant pool is VERY strong this year, and that the in state applicant pool is "a little soft." So if there's any other in staters on here, that kind of gives us the opportunity to really, really shine in our interviews to set us apart from what is otherwise a relatively mediocre applicant pool.
 
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