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I just got a call from the admissions office and I finally know that I will be interviewing April 4th! I had to leave several messages but they finally called me back this morning. Ive already looked through all the interview reviews on this site but does anyone else have any advice? This is my only west coast interview so I am really excited about this one! Does anyone know how many acceptances they usually send out by this time of year? I just want to know if I can still get outright accpeted or if I am pretty much auto-hold/waitlist.
 
Just wondering if anyone knew about OHSU's student's board scores. I read on a posting that their classes only score the National Average on the USMLE. Does this have something to do with the students motivation to pursue general practice/primary care specialties or is it because of their curriculum? Does anyone know?

Also has anyone been accepted off the hold list?

I was wondering, is the hold list like a quasi wait-list where as the few top candidates that are accepted directly turn down their offers, more people are accepted off the hold list?
I was curious about the same thing lilleyman. Over this tedious application process I was wondering if OHSU is even as good of school as they seem to think they are. At first I thought their admissions was just screwed up, but the more I research, the more is seems like they have issues.

I read from last year's forum that OHSU students are known to do below average on the USMLE step 1. When the admissions office was asked about how students do on their step 1 boards, they said right around average, which is a more pleasant way of saying just below average.

This is because OHSU doesn't focus on GPA/MCAT in admissions, OHSU students don't aspire to competitive residencies but are happy with basic primary care training. And many of the students that attend OHSU only go there because it was their only option. Top residencies have noted they they rarely take OHSU students because they can't stack up against the more competitive MD graduates.

The reason why OHSU doesn't matriculate more competitive students is because of their admissions scheme. According to last year's data OHSU had accepted about 35 students through mid-march and accepted a total of 70 out right by the end of interviews. This constituted the top 15% of their pool and about 70% of their class seats. The rest of the students were placed on hold until they were either offered the seats turned down by those accepted outright or offered the seats still open. So technically lilleyman, the hold list is a "quasi wait list." So it is no surprise that OHSU goes into the 90's off its wait list. They only accept their top applicants during the standard admission process (before March 30) whom will likely go to more competitive schools and then they wait until May to see who is still around to pick up nearly the entirety of their seats. And then even these applicants have decided to head somewhere else, so they have to resort to filling around half of their class with people off the waitlist who didn't get in anywhere else.

It makes you wonder. Is OHSU really where you want to be. They can hardly run an admissions process and they can't even produce average board scores. I don't know if I trust them with the responsibility of providing future doctors with a medical education.
 
Cool, thanks golden, that really helps. I was already worried about OHSU when I started hearing about how most of the class is either over 30, married with children, or both. I don't understand how this is beneficial to them or the younger students who follow the traditional route. It obviously hurts their admissions and board scores.
 
I think that Golden's less than objective post needs some rebuttal. OHSU's admissions policies are the way they are because they want to be as fair as possible. By relying heavily on a hold list, they remove any reward or penalty in the admissions process based on the timing of your interview. The assertion that OHSU students don't aspire to competitive residencies, but instead "settle" for primary care has no basis in fact. If OHSU students tend to gravitate to primary care, could it be because they want to rather than from a lack of ambition? OHSU studenst are also not all in their 30's, the average age is about 26. OHSU tends to admit older more non-trad type students under the theory that perhaps someone who has had a few more life experiences might make a better doctor than a 21 year old bio major. Regarding the board scores. Your board scores are determined by your studies, not by those of your classmates. If, on average, the class scores in the average range on Step 1, then by definition some folks are also scoring above and below the national averages. Beware the new member with strident posts....
 
I think that Golden's less than objective post needs some rebuttal. OHSU's admissions policies are the way they are because they want to be as fair as possible. By relying heavily on a hold list, they remove any reward or penalty in the admissions process based on the timing of your interview. The assertion that OHSU students don't aspire to competitive residencies, but instead "settle" for primary care has no basis in fact. If OHSU students tend to gravitate to primary care, could it be because they want to rather than from a lack of ambition? OHSU studenst are also not all in their 30's, the average age is about 26. OHSU tends to admit older more non-trad type students under the theory that perhaps someone who has had a few more life experiences might make a better doctor than a 21 year old bio major. Regarding the board scores. Your board scores are determined by your studies, not by those of your classmates. If, on average, the class scores in the average range on Step 1, then by definition some folks are also scoring above and below the national averages. Beware the new member with strident posts....


It should also be noted that OHSU explicitly states that interest in primary care is a factor in admission.
 
I just got a call from the admissions office and I finally know that I will be interviewing April 4th! I had to leave several messages but they finally called me back this morning. Ive already looked through all the interview reviews on this site but does anyone else have any advice? This is my only west coast interview so I am really excited about this one! Does anyone know how many acceptances they usually send out by this time of year? I just want to know if I can still get outright accpeted or if I am pretty much auto-hold/waitlist.

non-rolling admissions -> april interviewess have just as good a chance as do september interviewees. they accept a few outright, which doesn't seem "non-rolling" to me, but in general, yeah, nothing wrong with interviewing late.

on a side note, i think i'll be turning down my seat because i got into my top choice... so i'll cross my fingers that one of you guys get it.
 
What I didn't like about OHSU is the average age of the students (and how they are married) which really sux for trad. applicants, their unimpressive match list, there's almost NO Wifi whatsoever, and not much new computer/technology (e-curriculum and such).
 
What I don't understand is the premed fascination with match lists. The underlying assumption in reviewing a match list is that everyone tries to match at the most prestigious, competitive program, in the most competitive specialty. If you've every perused the residency threads, most people apply to programs where they think they'll be happy, regardless of prestige or name . Based on this faulty premise then, a match list doesn't really tell you anything about how 'competitive' a school is in placing students. It only tells you wher they placed, not how high on their match list each placement was.
 
What I didn't like about OHSU is the average age of the students (and how they are married) which really sux for trad. applicants, their unimpressive match list, there's almost NO Wifi whatsoever, and not much new computer/technology (e-curriculum and such).

Wow, this thread's getting about as negative as our thread got last year. 😱 Geogil's right about the limitations of judging a school form the match list, but I agree that last year I wasn't too excited by their match list. As much as they'd like to think they so, OHSU ain't Harvard or even UW. 🙂 I still wish I were there, though, because I miss PDX.

It's weird that OHSU has the ability to really rub some people the wrong way. I think the main thing is that their admissions office is just really cr@ppy, unresponsive and unprofessional -- the post above about not returning phone calls is spot on. Also, making the majority of your applicants wait until after May 15 to hear any final feedback is just not kosher. About the school in general and their location reputation, they really need to improve their PR.

Anyway, I think the going south nature of this thread is probably indicative that their admissions office is doing something wrong. People can handle being rejected. However, rudeness and inconsideration is harder to not get p&ssed off about.
 
I have had the opposite experience with OHSU. People have been great. One of my interviewers even emailed me congratulations and is helping me with the genetics requirement. As for the lack of e-curriculum- not a big deal to me. They have one of the very best schedules of all the schools I interviewed at.

As far as the match list, I do think most people at OHSU are less gunnerish than most. Older, married students with families may not want to devote all of their time to getting a derm residency. I think I read somewhere that 90% matched at one of their top 3 choices. Not as great as some schools but definitely not bad.

Personally, I am not interested in primary care. I told both of my interviewers that, and they seemed happy to have someone with an interest in academic medicine. Hopefully it will be easier to shine in a less competitive school. Bottom line: OHSU has interesting students with a lot of life experience. It graduates doctors that go on to do what they love.

That is good enough for me. Just my opinion, feel free to ignore it.
 
I agree thoroughly Doctor bagel. Rejection is not a big deal, its the fact that OHSU's poor communication and excruciatingly slow admissions process makes them appear disorganized and disrespectful. It's almost as if they think they are so darn good and all of us applicants are just begging for admission that they feel they don't have to do anything to fill their class with the most competitive students. They must not look at their stats. If I was on the admissions committee, I would see that accepting up to #90 on the waitlist, an unimpressive average MCAT, and average board scores, means something is wrong and that we were turning away the top students. I also agree with winthug, the match list is very important. Anyone who has gone so far in the education to becoming a doctor would want to do everything they can to obtain the best specialty training possible. Of course location is important, but it doesn't explain the fact that hardly anyone at OHSU matched in a competitive residency. OHSU can be a great school if they want to but their admission scheme and class stats leave much to be desired.
 
I have had the opposite experience with OHSU. People have been great. One of my interviewers even emailed me congratulations and is helping me with the genetics requirement. As for the lack of e-curriculum- not a big deal to me. They have one of the very best schedules of all the schools I interviewed at.

As far as the match list, I do think most people at OHSU are less gunnerish than most. Older, married students with families may not want to devote all of their time to getting a derm residency. I think I read somewhere that 90% matched at one of their top 3 choices. Not as great as some schools but definitely not bad.

Personally, I am not interested in primary care. I told both of my interviewers that, and they seemed happy to have someone with an interest in academic medicine. Hopefully it will be easier to shine in a less competitive school. Bottom line: OHSU has interesting students with a lot of life experience. It graduates doctors that go on to do what they love.

That is good enough for me. Just my opinion, feel free to ignore it.

Well, yeah, but your experience doesn't match with the normal OHSU experience. For one, very few people get a decision until after May 15 -- you got accepted early. Maybe they treat the people they really like well and leave the rest of us in the cold. IMO, to be a considerate admissions office, they should focus on treating all applicants well -- that would include returning phone calls in a prompt manner and making an effort to make as timely a decision as possible on people's applications. No, I don't think they need to get rid of their admissions scheme, but I do think they could speed it up by a few weeks to make everyone's life easier. Other schools have very similar admissions policies and more applicants than OHSU (read UW) and manage to fill their class months before OHSU does.

In the end, I'm left with my impression that their admissions office is arrogant, unresponsive, cold and just plain bad at what they do. I've heard the rest of the school is better, so that's good.
 
I just got a call from the admissions office and I finally know that I will be interviewing April 4th! I had to leave several messages but they finally called me back this morning. Ive already looked through all the interview reviews on this site but does anyone else have any advice? This is my only west coast interview so I am really excited about this one! Does anyone know how many acceptances they usually send out by this time of year? I just want to know if I can still get outright accpeted or if I am pretty much auto-hold/waitlist.

Case in point -- not returning phone calls. 🙂
 
Well, yeah, but your experience doesn't match with the normal OHSU experience. For one, very few people get a decision until after May 15 -- you got accepted early. Maybe they treat the people they really like well and leave the rest of us in the cold. IMO, to be a considerate admissions office, they should focus on treating all applicants well -- that would include returning phone calls in a prompt manner and making an effort to make as timely a decision as possible on people's applications. No, I don't think they need to get rid of their admissions scheme, but I do think they could speed it up by a few weeks to make everyone's life easier. Other schools have very similar admissions policies and more applicants than OHSU (read UW) and manage to fill their class months before OHSU does.

In the end, I'm left with my impression that their admissions office is arrogant, unresponsive, cold and just plain bad at what they do. I've heard the rest of the school is better, so that's good.

yeah, unfortunately, even if i get in, OHSU is off my radar (i'm OOS). may 15 is too late to wait when you've had time to think more thoroughly about schools that have sent you acceptances in march and earlier.
 
yeah, unfortunately, even if i get in, OHSU is off my radar (i'm OOS). may 15 is too late to wait when you've had time to think more thoroughly about schools that have sent you acceptances in march and earlier.
I definitely agree. You have to go with the signs. Even if OHSU's office of admissions isn't representative of their entire school, I think you have to go with another school that shows far more class and respect towards their applicants. It shows a deeper level of committment to their students if they are constantly striving to be the best. It means they care about medicine and they care about their future doctors.
 
I got a rejection letter saying that they didn't interview me because I wasn't an OR resident, MA holder, Ph. D. candidate or a minority, they give preference to those applicants and filled the class with them. Funny thing is I got their secondary very late, and though I had a pretty quick turnaround on it, I forgot to put the cheque in with it. They sent a postcard asking for the money, then just a couple weeks later tell me I never had any chance of getting in there, even with a 4.0 45T...That I found unprofessional.
 
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I am not sure how many people come off the hold list. I do know that last year 40+ people came off the waitlist, which is probably the rest of the hold list that didn't get automatic acceptances. Last year there was also an online site where you can check your place on the waitlist on a day-to-day basis as people in front of you are pulled off. I love the way OHSU does things! I can pm you my mdapp profile if you want. I'd like to maintain some anonymity =)

Actually lots of people on the hold list get rejected, too. I was one of them last year. 🙁 You can either get accepted, waitlisted or rejected from the hold list. Last year, I think they actually got to at least 90 on the waitlist, which is pretty typical for them. The waitlist is ranked, so you know where you stand in that regard.

Thrall, as to my comment about you buying the hype, it just seems like every post you make is about how absolutely fantastic and wonderful OHSU's admissions process is. I guess it's logical that you'd reach that conclusion because it suited you well, and you received good treatment from the admissions office. Unfortunately, my experience last year was far from positive (and no, not just the getting rejected part), so I'm unable to think positive things about OHSU's admissions office or how they execute their policies.

Again, I still don't get how it's acceptable to hold off on releasing decisions to the majority of your applicants until late May. It actually violates AAMC guidelines and screws both the applicants and other schools. All of you OHSU lovers have offered no excuse for this part of their policy most likely because it is inexcusable. I'd be a lot happier with OHSU right now had they rejected me earlier instead of stringing me along until May 30th or some evil late date like that. To add to that, their dean of admissions actually told me I needed to have patience and wait for a decision because she was too cowardly to tell me I had been rejected. Note, she told me this a day before I received my rejection letter in the mail. Also, she was willing to share the admissions decisions with applicants who did get admitted. The complete lack of respect and empathy there was just amazing.
 
Go Time, I am glad you still see some merit in OHSU's program. I applied there thinking they were my top choice, and they still were after I interviewed. But after doing more research and seeing how much better other schools ran their programs and responded to me, OHSU has lost some ground in my ranking. I'd love to be in Oregon but sometimes it seems like education isn't Oregon's strong suit (usually due to funding).

It's true, learning is an individual endeavor, and not having the most competitive environment can give you a chance to be the shining star. Good luck to you.
 
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I think that Golden's less than objective post needs some rebuttal. OHSU's admissions policies are the way they are because they want to be as fair as possible. By relying heavily on a hold list, they remove any reward or penalty in the admissions process based on the timing of your interview. The assertion that OHSU students don't aspire to competitive residencies, but instead "settle" for primary care has no basis in fact. If OHSU students tend to gravitate to primary care, could it be because they want to rather than from a lack of ambition? OHSU studenst are also not all in their 30's, the average age is about 26. OHSU tends to admit older more non-trad type students under the theory that perhaps someone who has had a few more life experiences might make a better doctor than a 21 year old bio major. Regarding the board scores. Your board scores are determined by your studies, not by those of your classmates. If, on average, the class scores in the average range on Step 1, then by definition some folks are also scoring above and below the national averages. Beware the new member with strident posts....
I don't exactly see how: OLDER=MORE LIFE EXPERIENCES=BETTER DOCTOR

When I interviewed at OHSU we met with 6 students and three of them were either caring for a baby, preparing for one, or anticipating having one while in school. Now I'm sure plenty of OHSU students aren't married and/or having kids, though on interview day it just left the wrong impression. Now that I look at the numbers it seems as if no small minority of students is either older, married with kids, or both. It just seems to me that the best learning environment would be one in which all of the students are committed and devoted to learning and helping their peers learn the most about the human body and patient care. It might be a bit idealistic, but when a group of students is thinking about how they have to take care of their kid after class with their spouse rather than go to a study group or even socialize with classmates, it just doesn't seem like it makes for the best of med school environments. Any comments?
 
I don't exactly see how: OLDER=MORE LIFE EXPERIENCES=BETTER DOCTOR

When I interviewed at OHSU we met with 6 students and three of them were either caring for a baby, preparing for one, or anticipating having one while in school. Now I'm sure plenty of OHSU students aren't married and/or having kids, though on interview day it just left the wrong impression. Now that I look at the numbers it seems as if no small minority of students is either older, married with kids, or both. It just seems to me that the best learning environment would be one in which all of the students are committed and devoted to learning and helping their peers learn the most about the human body and patient care. It might be a bit idealistic, but when a group of students is thinking about how they have to take care of their kid after class with their spouse rather than go to a study group or even socialize with classmates, it just doesn't seem like it makes for the best of med school environments. Any comments?

Wow. Seriously? Wow.

I would respond more but since you have only 5 posts (and made such a dumb comment) I can only assume you are a troll.
 
I got a rejection letter saying that they didn't interview me because I wasn't an OR resident, MA holder, Ph. D. candidate or a minority, they give preference to those applicants and filled the class with them. Funny thing is I got their secondary very late, and though I had a pretty quick turnaround on it, I forgot to put the cheque in with it. They sent a postcard asking for the money, then just a couple weeks later tell me I never had any chance of getting in there, even with a 4.0 45T...That I found unprofessional.

I think the rejection letter was worded like that as a courtesy. I really doubt they only accepted people who fall into those categories. So don't hate OHSU too much, though I agree that their admissions office is rather slow.
 
Wow. Seriously? Wow.

I would respond more but since you have only 5 posts (and made such a dumb comment) I can only assume you are a troll.
I was only asking a question. I am really interested in finding out what the students are really like at OHSU and I must say that if everyone is tending to their children, I don't think it is the best environment for the younger of us still devoted entirely to our education.

And I don't see how being new automatically leaves me with no credibility. I just found this network recently.
 
Go Time, I am glad you still see some merit in OHSU's program. I applied there thinking they were my top choice, and they still were after I interviewed. But after doing more research and seeing how much better other schools ran their programs and responded to me, OHSU has lost some ground in my ranking. I'd love to be in Oregon but sometimes it seems like education isn't Oregon's strong suit (usually due to funding).

It's true, learning is an individual endeavor, and not having the most competitive environment can give you a chance to be the shining star. Good luck to you.

the progression of your sentiments mirrors my own. and i'm a non-traditional student.
 
Doctor Bagel,

I am simply HORRIFIED for you. I am so very sorry that you actually had the admissions director lie to you instead of own up to the fact that you had been rejected. What a hideous thing. I am just so sorry.

And not just for that ~ I am also sorry that you have tried so hard and have not gotten in and now have to completely re-work all of your family's plans and move and such. Weeks ago I posted, asking about OHSU vs. UWash (wondering if we should move to Portland or Vancouver if and when we ever get out house to sell) and reading your posts (and others) have helped up make the decision to move to Washington. The very idea of a school messing around so much with students just astounds me. I can only hope that they read these forums and see what they are doing to good people. Via word of mouth, they are turning off possible future students.

I hope all works out well for you.
 
It always strikes me as somewhat odd and mildly amusing to see people make "life changing decisions" based off of what less than 1% of applicants claim to experience with respect to the medical school admissions process through an electronic bulletin board system. But, if this outlet is your deciding factor, then so be it. However, I must add that much like yourselves, I applied to many other schools. Moreover, I have NOT heard a single word from over 30% of the schools I have applied to. When I have contacted them (Cornell being just one example), they fail to respond either through email or over the phone. Further, you will not find one post from me in the Cornell forum complaining about how they fail to even notify an applicant of their interview status by the middle of March. Why do you think that is? I will tell you - it is because I am happy with where I am going to medical school. In addition, I am writing off the schools who have failed to respond to me as either a) too busy or b) too inefficient to handle the large influx of applicants they have received.

Most importantly, I think it says something about the person (not the school) when you post 3+ messages in a school's thread talking about how much you DON'T want to go to that school. A slightly entertaining analogy would be calling an ex boyfriend/girlfriend,who dumped you, multiple times just to tell them that you don't want to date them anymore.

Issues much?

Take home message: If you don't like the admissions process at OHSU or any other school for that matter, big deal. What did it cost you? $30? $50? Maybe even $75? Is it that big of a deal to spend countless hours of your life (time that you will never get back) complaining about how much you dislike the school? Instead, why not focus on going into your respective schools' channels and posting about why you love your school so much (presuming you've been accepted somewhere)?

Just a thought. 🙂

(ps - I'm very tired so I hope this post is somewhat coherent)
 
It always strikes me as somewhat odd and mildly amusing to see people make "life changing decisions" based off of what less than 1% of applicants claim to experience with respect to the medical school admissions process through an electronic bulletin board system. But, if this outlet is your deciding factor, then so be it. However, I must add that much like yourselves, I applied to many other schools. Moreover, I have NOT heard a single word from over 30% of the schools I have applied to. When I have contacted them (Cornell being just one example), they fail to respond either through email or over the phone. Further, you will not find one post from me in the Cornell forum complaining about how they fail to even notify an applicant of their interview status by the middle of March. Why do you think that is? I will tell you - it is because I am happy with where I am going to medical school. In addition, I am writing off the schools who have failed to respond to me as either a) too busy or b) too inefficient to handle the large influx of applicants they have received.

Most importantly, I think it says something about the person (not the school) when you post 3+ messages in a school's thread talking about how much you DON'T want to go to that school. A slightly entertaining analogy would be calling an ex boyfriend/girlfriend,who dumped you, multiple times just to tell them that you don't want to date them anymore.

Issues much?

Take home message: If you don't like the admissions process at OHSU or any other school for that matter, big deal. What did it cost you? $30? $50? Maybe even $75? Is it that big of a deal to spend countless hours of your life (time that you will never get back) complaining about how much you dislike the school? Instead, why not focus on going into your respective schools' channels and posting about why you love your school so much (presuming you've been accepted somewhere)?

Just a thought. 🙂

(ps - I'm very tired so I hope this post is somewhat coherent)

i think folks are simply frustrated with OHSU's admissions process. we obviously applied to the school for a reason. we're also aware that admissions folks are known to read their school-related threads for feedback. who knows if it'll do any good? still, there's no reason why people can't express their frustration with an admissions process that they're currently mired in; that process, and not the school, is where the bulk of the criticism has been directed.

and, yeah, i'm happy to choose cornell over OHSU, but i'm still a little mournful over having to let OHSU go.
 
Thrall, not only did you buy the hype, but you are about as insensitive as the OHSU admissions office is. According to you, they don't have to be nice or treat people with respect. Yeah, it's not a big deal to you because you got in. It was a big deal to me to spend months and months waiting to hear whether or not I'd have to move to a new state. Promptness and consideration would have been nice.

Again, your post says nothing to explain why OHSU treats so many of their applicants so poorly. It's all A-OK to you since apparently in your view the only thing we're out is the application fee. You, too, are entirely lacking empathy. Maybe you should work for the admissions department -- I'm sure you'd get along well. 🙄

BTW, Thrall -- the more appropriate thread to get at what you want would be the class of 2011 OHSU thread in the class section of the allopathic forum. Scroll down a little bit, and you should be able to find it. There, you wouldn't have to worry about your inability to relate to anyone who was not treated well by OHSU.
 
I don't exactly see how: OLDER=MORE LIFE EXPERIENCES=BETTER DOCTOR

When I interviewed at OHSU we met with 6 students and three of them were either caring for a baby, preparing for one, or anticipating having one while in school. Now I'm sure plenty of OHSU students aren't married and/or having kids, though on interview day it just left the wrong impression. Now that I look at the numbers it seems as if no small minority of students is either older, married with kids, or both. It just seems to me that the best learning environment would be one in which all of the students are committed and devoted to learning and helping their peers learn the most about the human body and patient care. It might be a bit idealistic, but when a group of students is thinking about how they have to take care of their kid after class with their spouse rather than go to a study group or even socialize with classmates, it just doesn't seem like it makes for the best of med school environments. Any comments?


Ok, i'm going to respond even though this is trolilish. When you have a family and kids, they come first. period. Yes, your education is important, particularly so in the case of medicine. Nevertheless, once you've decided to bring someone else into the world, their needs trump yours. The studentss with kids should be more concered about their children than chillin' with their classmates.
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I came across this thread by accident-- I'm an OHSU student.

Sorry to hear the admissions process wasn't very organized for some of you. After skimming these posts, I have a few comments:

True:
1. OHSU students score the national average on step 1. I think this is because one of the deans, Dr. Keenan, does not beleive there should even be a USMLE and tells everyone "not to worry about it". As a result, there is no formal preparation or advising and I think some people don't do as well as they could. I did very well, but I didn't really need a kick in the pants. For what it's worth, we do better on step 2.

2. OHSU does not have an online curriculum. True, but the paper study notes are great. If online resources are important to you I don't think the administration is planning on making any changes soon.

False:
1. OHSU is full of married students in their 30's with kids. Yup, there are quite a few students with kids, but I bet you'll find that anywhere. There is a big contingent of people who have just graduated, want to work hard, etc, and the "mood" is not influenced by those who have or are having children. In fact, I think the married students and parents probably attended class more often. If you're 22 and just out of college you'll fit right in.

2. OHSU administration is unsupportive. Quite the opposite. I think it's a good combination of support without hand-holding.

My main complaints about OHSU are the family medicine-run clinical medicine class in the 1st 2 years (they want to teach you everything and in the process teach you little), and the lack of advising about the USMLE. I liked the outline of the curriculum with classes in blocks and time to study in the afternoon, but the execution was sometimes disappointing. In general, I'll think you can find better organized pre-clinical instruction elsewhere.

However, 3rd and 4th years have been simply amazing. I worked with SO MANY motivated, intelligent attendings who were there becuase they loved to teach, not because they were forced to. You can find attendings in any clerkship who are both accomplished and approachable, and they have time and inclination to be mentors. In comparing notes to friends at "big name" schools, I think the clinical education here is excellent, and on the interview trail 3 interviews separately told me they thought OHSU students are well-prepared interns. You just have to put up with the 1st 2 years and be somewhat of a self-motivated student to get it.

PM me if you have questions!
 
Does anyone know if people who interview in April are usually put on hold before being accepted/waitlisted/rejected or if because it is so close to May 15th the adcom directly accepts/waitlists/rejects? At first I was glad about having a few weeks to prepare for this interview but now im regretting waiting so long...damn nerves are killing me!
 
This was informative ... sort of.

OHSU is my top school, as I don't want to leave Portland. I don't believe any school would be so bad as to produce a "terrible" doctor, we each have responsibility for our education.

It's hard to believe that people hold such misconceptions about what a parent or spouse thinks about while in any kind of school. As a parent myself, I know what my priorities are, but my family has never kept me from being involved in my studies. I think it means maybe most of us work even that much harder, give us some credit, try pulling off med school with a family and see how hard it is, even an undergraduate degree is difficult to obtain. Why feel so put out by people with responsibilities other then homework and study groups?

I will feel very at home with OHSU, yes, older students, yes students with families. Sounds pretty good to me, at least I won't be in a class full of people who have ill feelings towards me for being apart of the class!
 
Does anyone know if people who interview in April are usually put on hold before being accepted/waitlisted/rejected or if because it is so close to May 15th the adcom directly accepts/waitlists/rejects? At first I was glad about having a few weeks to prepare for this interview but now im regretting waiting so long...damn nerves are killing me!

I don't think when you interview has any impact on whether you get put on hold or not. How it works is the admissions committee assigns you a score based on all your stuff. If that score is high enough to assure admission, you'll get accepted. If it's not, you'll go on hold.
 
This was informative ... sort of.

OHSU is my top school, as I don't want to leave Portland. I don't believe any school would be so bad as to produce a "terrible" doctor, we each have responsibility for our education.

It's hard to believe that people hold such misconceptions about what a parent or spouse thinks about while in any kind of school. As a parent myself, I know what my priorities are, but my family has never kept me from being involved in my studies. I think it means maybe most of us work even that much harder, give us some credit, try pulling off med school with a family and see how hard it is, even an undergraduate degree is difficult to obtain. Why feel so put out by people with responsibilities other then homework and study groups?

I will feel very at home with OHSU, yes, older students, yes students with families. Sounds pretty good to me, at least I won't be in a class full of people who have ill feelings towards me for being apart of the class!

We'll just organize play/study groups together 😀

See you in August!
 
Hi, I'm currently an OHSU student (finishing second year and preparing to take Step 1). I was a little surprised at the anti-OHSU sentiment here, although you are all entitled to your opinions. Personally, I've had a great experience and am not concerned about how I'll score on the boards or residency placement based on my school. I can say that Dean Keenan has ramped up the USMLE prep, this year we've had a couple speeches from him already on the importance of the boards and just took our mock boards last week.

Regarding some of the specific complaints--I remember being frustrated when I was applying too, but I honestly don't think OHSU was worse than other schools. Many schools didn't respond to phone calls/e-mails. Maybe it was just my experience, but pretty much every school made me feel like I was unimportant and would be lucky to go there, except on interview day when it seems like they try to sell you on the school. That's just the admin process.

As far as people being older/parents, that is true of many of my classmates--I'd say it's about 60/40 with a majority being married and/or having kids and/or being older. Personally, even though I don't fall into this category, I saw it as a plus. I feel OHSU really values and expects its students to have a life outside the classroom. While everyone works hard--this is a given at any med school if you want to pass--I feel like most of my classmates, married or not, have priorities besides school. I think this enhances, rather than detracts from, the learning environment. My classmates are interesting, multi-dimensional people, and our school supports us in that. I would rather be somewhere where it is understood that I am more than just an aspiring doctor, even if it means an environment that is less rigidly academic. That fits my personality well, but if you are looking for a school that will expect you and all your classmates to live and breathe medicine every second, OHSU is probably not for you. I would caution though, that even if this seems like a good idea to you entering med school, your feelings and priorities might change considerably over the next few years.

As far as reputation/residency placement go--I do not get the sense that OHSU is not respected or has trouble placing residents. The percentage of residents who get one of their top choices is very high, and that's what matters most to me--I want to know that when the time comes, I'll have a decent shot at going somewhere I want to, and judging from the match list OHSU practically guarantess that. Obviously it's not Harvard, but that isn't the point for most of us who go here, or for most med students for that matter. I'm almost in my third year and don't feel very competent in evaluating a match list, if there's something some of you premeds know about this that allows you to better gauge match lists and judge a school than by all means feel free to apply this to OHSU.

In general, I have been happy with my preclinical education at OHSU--we have a great schedule (one class at a time, with 4 hours a day of non-mandatory lecture), great clinical opportunities (weekly preceptorship with community and hospital physicians), a beautiful school in a beautiful city, and a friendly, non-competitive atmosphere. I would agree with Fang that the Principles of Clinical Medicine class is frequently a waste of time, but it's only 4 hours a week. Other cons: the library hours blow, there is no school-provided housing (although finding housing is generally not difficult in Portland and it is still much cheaper than other nearby cities, rents have gone up considerably in the past few years), the fin aid office is not terribly helpful, and I am less than thrilled with the student health center. It would have been nice to have lectures taped and online, although our powerpoints were always available on the course websites. Other than these complaints, I feel like OHSU is a great place to study medicine and am excited about starting clerkships in a few months. If anyone has specific questions feel free to message me. Good luck to all of you in getting through the crappy admissions process and getting into a school you're excited about!
 
Hi, I'm currently an OHSU student (finishing second year and preparing to take Step 1). I was a little surprised at the anti-OHSU sentiment here, although you are all entitled to your opinions. Personally, I've had a great experience and am not concerned about how I'll score on the boards or residency placement based on my school. I can say that Dean Keenan has ramped up the USMLE prep, this year we've had a couple speeches from him already on the importance of the boards and just took our mock boards last week.

Regarding some of the specific complaints--I remember being frustrated when I was applying too, but I honestly don't think OHSU was worse than other schools. Many schools didn't respond to phone calls/e-mails. Maybe it was just my experience, but pretty much every school made me feel like I was unimportant and would be lucky to go there, except on interview day when it seems like they try to sell you on the school. That's just the admin process.

As far as people being older/parents, that is true of many of my classmates--I'd say it's about 60/40 with a majority being married and/or having kids and/or being older. Personally, even though I don't fall into this category, I saw it as a plus. I feel OHSU really values and expects its students to have a life outside the classroom. While everyone works hard--this is a given at any med school if you want to pass--I feel like most of my classmates, married or not, have priorities besides school. I think this enhances, rather than detracts from, the learning environment. My classmates are interesting, multi-dimensional people, and our school supports us in that. I would rather be somewhere where it is understood that I am more than just an aspiring doctor, even if it means an environment that is less rigidly academic. That fits my personality well, but if you are looking for a school that will expect you and all your classmates to live and breathe medicine every second, OHSU is probably not for you. I would caution though, that even if this seems like a good idea to you entering med school, your feelings and priorities might change considerably over the next few years.

As far as reputation/residency placement go--I do not get the sense that OHSU is not respected or has trouble placing residents. The percentage of residents who get one of their top choices is very high, and that's what matters most to me--I want to know that when the time comes, I'll have a decent shot at going somewhere I want to, and judging from the match list OHSU practically guarantess that. Obviously it's not Harvard, but that isn't the point for most of us who go here, or for most med students for that matter. I'm almost in my third year and don't feel very competent in evaluating a match list, if there's something some of you premeds know about this that allows you to better gauge match lists and judge a school than by all means feel free to apply this to OHSU.

In general, I have been happy with my preclinical education at OHSU--we have a great schedule (one class at a time, with 4 hours a day of non-mandatory lecture), great clinical opportunities (weekly preceptorship with community and hospital physicians), a beautiful school in a beautiful city, and a friendly, non-competitive atmosphere. I would agree with Fang that the Principles of Clinical Medicine class is frequently a waste of time, but it's only 4 hours a week. Other cons: the library hours blow, there is no school-provided housing (although finding housing is generally not difficult in Portland and it is still much cheaper than other nearby cities, rents have gone up considerably in the past few years), the fin aid office is not terribly helpful, and I am less than thrilled with the student health center. It would have been nice to have lectures taped and online, although our powerpoints were always available on the course websites. Other than these complaints, I feel like OHSU is a great place to study medicine and am excited about starting clerkships in a few months. If anyone has specific questions feel free to message me. Good luck to all of you in getting through the crappy admissions process and getting into a school you're excited about!
Thanks Fang and Mistress S, your responses were very reassuring. This admissions process is just so long and with the passing days and no word from OHSU, it seems like they maybe don't care. But it's good to hear that OHSU really is what I hoped it would be when I applied. I still really hope I will have the chance to attend, cheers!
 
Does anyone know if people who interview in April are usually put on hold before being accepted/waitlisted/rejected or if because it is so close to May 15th the adcom directly accepts/waitlists/rejects? At first I was glad about having a few weeks to prepare for this interview but now im regretting waiting so long...damn nerves are killing me!
From what I understand of April interviewees, by the time they get around to reviewing your application, it's almost mid-May. Also, if memory serves me right when I looked up last year's posts, the second week of May they still had 70 applications to review. Also, someone I know who interviewed last week was told he would hear around May 15th. So, to make a short story long, I don't think you'll be put on hold; I think it'll either be Accept, Wait-list, or Refuse. Hope this helps!
 
Also, has anyone heard from OHSU recently? If so, would you mind posting how long it took to hear from them after your interview? The suspense is killing me!
 
Haven't heard from them since receiving my hold group letter feb 8th.

Those of us on hold last year didn't hear until after May 15. Unless they've actually sped things up this year, I suspect you guys will face a similar wait. I would be highly surprised if you heard in April.
 
Thanks so much for your responses. Actually, I had a March interview, so I'm still hoping for the (hopeful) "hold" letter...
 
Does anyone know if OHSU has a second look program? I haven't heard back from them yet, but if I do get in eventually, I'm going to seriously need to revisit the campus. I had a really good experience there, but I also had a really good experience at another school, and I'm very torn.
 
Does anyone know if OHSU has a second look program? I haven't heard back from them yet, but if I do get in eventually, I'm going to seriously need to revisit the campus. I had a really good experience there, but I also had a really good experience at another school, and I'm very torn.

They don't 🙁 If I decide to go there (and I probably will), I am going to try and set something up for next years class. Many schools have a second look organized by the class before them...why not OHSU? What do you guys think?
 
They don't 🙁 If I decide to go there (and I probably will), I am going to try and set something up for next years class. Many schools have a second look organized by the class before them...why not OHSU? What do you guys think?

I'd be more than happy to help you out! May 15 is only a month away!
 
*sigh* i am withdrawing monday morning. i really loved OHSU, but I can't turn down Berkeley, so there's 1 less seat taken.

oregon's so much prettier than CA...
 
Has anyone who interviewed in the last half of March heard their initial decision yet? Seems like we should have heard by this week...
 
Has anyone who interviewed in the last half of March heard their initial decision yet? Seems like we should have heard by this week...

Patience my boy, patience. OHSU requires patience. It is a great school, but it definitely requires patience.
 
I spoke with Lori Toner yesterday. OHSU ended up extending their interview period until April 20th - an extra two weeks. She said they interviewed about 525 applicants this year. I think they interviewed somewhere around 425 last year (does anyone know for sure?). That is a lot of extra applications to score. Considering how slow they were last year, I wouldn't expect to hear from them before May 15th.
 
Wow! When I interviewed, my interviewers did mention that they were really busy getting interviews done but they didnt say anything about extending the interview season or an unusually large number of interviews being conducted. Has anyone else heard this?
 
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