Oklahoma Anyone? part 01

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Mine is scheduled for jan 20th. 9 a.m. Hopefully they'll want me. 👍
 
So I was wondering if anyone knows how many of the 250 being interviewed get acceptances normally?
 
als12179 said:
So I was wondering if anyone knows how many of the 250 being interviewed get acceptances normally?
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The class size is always 150. However, the shift is different every year from the waitlist.
 
DMBFan61 said:
i was wondering this also. also, how long after your interview do you hear about acceptances?
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Should know in a week.
 
ad_sharp said:
The class size is always 150. However, the shift is different every year from the waitlist.
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It's incredibly humbling to think that last year I was outright rejected after the interview - not waitlisted.

That's gotta be a pretty exclusive minority, considering the statistics. 😛
 
Amxcvbcv said:
It's incredibly humbling to think that last year I was outright rejected after the interview - not waitlisted.

That's gotta be a pretty exclusive minority, considering the statistics. 😛
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Actually, the same thing happened to me.



Woohoo Jan 19th at 9:00am!!!!!!! :horns: WOOT!
 
I got my interview letter today!!! January 19th @ 9am.

See you all there :clap:
 
MechE said:
I got my interview letter today!!! January 19th @ 9am.

See you all there :clap:
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Congrats to everyone that got an interview invite recently.

I found out that I'll be going to the Orange Bowl. Some friends from high school that go to OU got me an extra ticket, so I'm stoked to see us run all over USC. This season is extremely similar to the 2000 Natl Champion team:
1. The game is at the Orange Bowl
2. We barely beat Ok St. and Texas AM on the road
3. USC is favored, as was FSU
4. The opposing team's qb won the Heisman (Weinke beat out Heupel).
5. The 2000 Big 12 schedule was the same as this year's big 12 schedule.
6. Not to bring politics into it, but Bush won in 2000 and he won this year.

Everything is looking good. BOOMER SOONER!!!
 
white not winning is rediculous, the heisman is crap now, posted better numbers than leinheart! And they both have equal talent around them, now you tell me how leinheart was better.
Peterson isnt the best running back, so i dont know how he got that many votes I would say benson is. That guy had to take on 8 man fronts the whole game because their passing sucked.
All I know is cal got screwed, and i wish utah would have played a decent team so they can get their asses handed to them and end this non bcs conference fiasco.
Lucky you pbehzad! Should be a good one. 24-14 OU!
500 posts! damn i talk too much =D
 
Abe said:
white not winning is rediculous, the heisman is crap now, posted better numbers than leinheart! And they both have equal talent around them, now you tell me how leinheart was better.
Peterson isnt the best running back, so i dont know how he got that many votes I would say benson is. That guy had to take on 8 man fronts the whole game because their passing sucked.
All I know is cal got screwed, and i wish utah would have played a decent team so they can get their asses handed to them and end this non bcs conference fiasco.
Lucky you pbehzad! Should be a good one. 24-14 OU!
500 posts! damn i talk too much =D
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Not to mention that the secondaries the the Pac 10 are worthless.

The final test block of the first semester starts tommorrow. 108 question 40 something page biochem test is first. Gotta get up at four in the morning......that's enough complaining from me.

Congrats to all of you who received your interview letters. I'm sure that you'll do well. If you would like, you can PM me to see if I'll be in the mod during the day of your interview. I'll introduce you to a few classmates outside of the recruitment atmosphere of the interview day if you like. Try to relax between now and then and prep yourself for possible questions at the interview. You're one step closer to being able to do what you want to do-a thing that few people are afforded. I still have to pinch myself sometimes.....
 
Anybody have some insider info on how many slots in the class are still open after the Dec. interviews? About 90 or so interviewed and there's 154 slots open, right?
 
DMBFan61 said:
I heard that only 55 or so interviewed in dec...
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That seems kind of low, but you may be right. I had an interview on the 3rd day (Dec. 2), and there were 27 total candidates interviewing. So if the 1st and 2nd day also had about the same number of candidates as the 3rd day (which I'm thinking they do) , you would have 3 X 27=81. So my guess would be that about ~80 students interviewed between Nov. 30-Dec. 2nd.

Hope that helps and good luck!
 
pbehzad said:
That seems kind of low, but you may be right. I had an interview on the 3rd day (Dec. 2), and there were 27 total candidates interviewing. So if the 1st and 2nd day also had about the same number of candidates as the 3rd day (which I'm thinking they do) , you would have 3 X 27=81. So my guess would be that about ~80 students interviewed between Nov. 30-Dec. 2nd.

Hope that helps and good luck!
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That should be correct, or very close to it.
 
Got the thick envelope today 😀. Man, I'm so excited for next year. To celebrate, I have to write a 10 page paper tonight. BOOMER SOONER!!!
 
pbehzad said:
Got the thick envelope today 😀. Man, I'm so excited for next year. To celebrate, I have to write a 10 page paper tonight. BOOMER SOONER!!!
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congrats. i should find out tomorrow. mail takes an extra day to get down to miami. did your envelope contain any scholarship/financial info?
 
Dr Turninkoff said:
congrats. i should find out tomorrow. mail takes an extra day to get down to miami. did your envelope contain any scholarship/financial info?
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yea they gave me $10,000 for the 1st year and said that we could apply for financial aid scholarships in march.
 
pbehzad said:
Got the thick envelope today 😀. Man, I'm so excited for next year. To celebrate, I have to write a 10 page paper tonight. BOOMER SOONER!!!
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Congrats! Here's a couple of free tips.

1. Don't buy any books before school starts. The only books that are recommended is Chungs anatomy, Netters, and maybe the embryo book, and you can buy them at the bookstore after class starts. Anything else is a waste, because the syllabi are so complete. (Don't buy the ******ed psych book, I'd sell you mine, but I'd feel like an ass doing it)

2. Don't join AMSA just to get a "free" Netters (membership is same pricing as buying the book, about $75) unless you agree with their social liberal causes (socialized medicine, pro-abortion, pro-handgun ownership abolishment, etc.)
They're so liberal that they had to disband from the AMA a long time ago, but they are NOT upfront about their agenda, and will sucker you into thinking you need to be a part of their organization. They do this by sending out mailings prior to school, so that by the time you find out what they stand for, it's too late.

Any other ideas, Gil or Adam, for the incoming people?
 
oudoc08 said:
Congrats! Here's a couple of free tips.

1. Don't buy any books before school starts. The only books that are recommended is Chungs anatomy, Netters, and maybe the embryo book, and you can buy them at the bookstore after class starts. Anything else is a waste, because the syllabi are so complete. (Don't buy the ******ed psych book, I'd sell you mine, but I'd feel like an ass doing it)

2. Don't join AMSA just to get a "free" Netters (membership is same pricing as buying the book, about $75) unless you agree with their social liberal causes (socialized medicine, pro-abortion, pro-handgun ownership abolishment, etc.)
They're so liberal that they had to disband from the AMA a long time ago, but they are NOT upfront about their agenda, and will sucker you into thinking you need to be a part of their organization. They do this by sending out mailings prior to school, so that by the time you find out what they stand for, it's too late.

Any other ideas, Gil or Adam, for the incoming people?
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Although I don't agree at all with most of the conservative agenda, I can see the other side of the issue on things like socialized medicine and abortion, but how can educated students of science, especially medicine, be pro-handgun? There is no good that comes from these weapons. They aren't used for hunting, and statistics show that they nearly always kill the wrong people. And regarding the constitutional right to bear arms, the same argument supporting handguns can be applied to bazookas, landmines, and heavy machine guns. As a future doctor, do you think that everyone has a right to these "tools of protection" also? I really didn't want to get into an SDN argument, but with all of the liberal agenda bashing, I thought I'd at least attempt to represent the voice of reason.
 
Let's keep politics outta this please. My best advise-think about the ways to preserve balance in your life.
 
Abe said:
is 10,000 standard?? is that scholarship or loans damn! and congrats =)
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The 3K or so a semester is the more standard amount, I think.
 
ad_sharp said:
The 3K or so a semester is the more standard amount, I think.
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Is the 3,000/semester after you fill out the fafsa and the financial aid scholarship form or is that strictly merit based (did it come with the accceptance letter)? the one they offered me had nothing do with financial aid, and im wondering if i'd still be eligible for the 3000/semester scholarship cause thats a better scholarship in the end. when did you find out that you would receive the scholarship?
thanks.
 
pbehzad said:
Is the 3,000/semester after you fill out the fafsa and the financial aid scholarship form or is that strictly merit based (did it come with the accceptance letter)? the one they offered me had nothing do with financial aid, and im wondering if i'd still be eligible for the 3000/semester scholarship cause thats a better scholarship in the end. when did you find out that you would receive the scholarship?
thanks.
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It's monetary need-based.

Ah, another important tip that I didn't know about:

Include your parents on all of the fa stuff. I didn't (naturally) because I am married. To make a long story short-it cost me a couple of grand because they want to see where you came from, I guess. Probably didn't think that two people could live off of my last IRS reported income. Btw, congrats on the scholarship. I don't know about any additional scholarships. You'll have to call the financial aid folks on that one.

Another fun fact (if my fried memory serves correctly): Graduates from last year averaged 108K in debt (that's before the tuition hikes) on their student loans. It'll be a miracle if I get out anywhere near that 🙁 . There's no going back after you've bought the farm. Not that bad compared to other places that I've heard about, but it still makes you kinda nervous about the whole thing. I'm one of those guys who roots for a down-turn in the economy-keeps the interest rates low (the fed raised em a 1/4 point today 😡 ). I'll tell you what we need-some good ol Jimmy Carter economics-stagflation w/ interest rates in the double digits and inflation out the yang would be great with the interest capped at 8.25% on my loans (wishful thinking of course b/c they'll just raise the caps on the loans). Let me know when you're guys are doing you loan stuff. OUdoc and I are on the same loans. We've avoided the evil underlord known as Sallie Mae (SM is involved in heavy lobbying activities to increase our payback amounts by jacking with the interest rate calculations) through another loan program.
No fees and some other perks. Most people go through Medloans because the aamc has been bought out by it and they don't know any better-they'll screw ya with the fees. Anyhoo, I want you all to know that you are a detriment to my studies as I have an Anatomy exam tommorrow and little to no time to be writing anything this long on a message board. I need to shut up........
 
Dr Turninkoff said:
Although I don't agree at all with most of the conservative agenda, I can see the other side of the issue on things like socialized medicine and abortion, but how can educated students of science, especially medicine, be pro-handgun? There is no good that comes from these weapons. They aren't used for hunting, and statistics show that they nearly always kill the wrong people. And regarding the constitutional right to bear arms, the same argument supporting handguns can be applied to bazookas, landmines, and heavy machine guns. As a future doctor, do you think that everyone has a right to these "tools of protection" also? I really didn't want to get into an SDN argument, but with all of the liberal agenda bashing, I thought I'd at least attempt to represent the voice of reason.
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The question isn't whether you agree or disagree with the notion of private ownership of handguns, it's that a medical student organization which claims to represent all medical students, is taking political and social stances which it has no business taking. Besides gun control, AMSA holds "official" stances on education, social security, the environment, medical malpractice, foreign policy, international alliances, gay marriage and the death penalty. They even have a stance on preemptive strikes.

Again, they do not represent a majority of medical students, in fact, they are so far left that I'd venture to say they don't represent more than a small minority. Their vocal agenda is anti-republican, anti-conservative, and they basically set their policies in opposition to the Bush administration.

Given the fact that the majority of the country voted for Bush, and the fact that physicians have a heavy conservative tilt, I'm willing to go out on a limb, and say that AMSA doesn't represent the majority of us.

So, again, if someone wants to join AMSA, that's fine. But know what you're getting into, and what you're membership dollars are going to support. My gripe with them, is that they are not forthcoming about their agenda prior to getting your dollars. And, because they "give" you a Netters, you have no recourse for getting your money back.

(BTW, if you compare violent crime rates per capita in the US, with countries who ban private ownership of handguns, you'll see exactly what their purpose is. Deterrence works. Whose house do you think the burglar would rather break into late at night? The guy with the NRA sticker on his window, or the guy with the "anti-gun" bumper sticker on his car?"

Violent crime rates in Oklahoma dropped drastically after the passage of the concealed carry law. How many people have been shot by those indivduals legally carrying concealed weapons? Very few if any, substantiating the deterrence principle.

Anyway, not trying to start arguments, just want everyone to make sure they know what they're buying. If you like the product, fine. If not, fine.
 
oudoc08 said:
The question isn't whether you agree or disagree with the notion of private ownership of handguns, it's that a medical student organization which claims to represent all medical students, is taking political and social stances which it has no business taking. Besides gun control, AMSA holds "official" stances on education, social security, the environment, medical malpractice, foreign policy, international alliances, gay marriage and the death penalty. They even have a stance on preemptive strikes.

Again, they do not represent a majority of medical students, in fact, they are so far left that I'd venture to say they don't represent more than a small minority. Their vocal agenda is anti-republican, anti-conservative, and they basically set their policies in opposition to the Bush administration.

Given the fact that the majority of the country voted for Bush, and the fact that physicians have a heavy conservative tilt, I'm willing to go out on a limb, and say that AMSA doesn't represent the majority of us.

So, again, if someone wants to join AMSA, that's fine. But know what you're getting into, and what you're membership dollars are going to support. My gripe with them, is that they are not forthcoming about their agenda prior to getting your dollars. And, because they "give" you a Netters, you have no recourse for getting your money back.

(BTW, if you compare violent crime rates per capita in the US, with countries who ban private ownership of handguns, you'll see exactly what their purpose is. Deterrence works. Whose house do you think the burglar would rather break into late at night? The guy with the NRA sticker on his window, or the guy with the "anti-gun" bumper sticker on his car?"

Violent crime rates in Oklahoma dropped drastically after the passage of the concealed carry law. How many people have been shot by those indivduals legally carrying concealed weapons? Very few if any, substantiating the deterrence principle.

Anyway, not trying to start arguments, just want everyone to make sure they know what they're buying. If you like the product, fine. If not, fine.
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I'm not arguing over AMSA's "marketing strategies". However, I do feel that it is legitimate that a medical association takes a stance against handguns, just as they should against cigarettes, fast food, and all of the other problems that plague our health care system. Anyway, I don't think that either of us wants to get into a message board argument over this, because we each obviously have our own opinions. I just wanted to put my 2 cents in earlier because everything I hear on this thread is anti-AMSA and I'm kind of sick of it. If people want to know what AMSA is about, they can go read the webpage.

I've known three people in my life that have had their houses burglarized. In each ease, the criminals stole handguns and hunting rifles. I'm sure thieves would love to see an NRA sticker on a possible target house. They would just try to hit them when they aren't home, then peddle the guns on the street.

Also, would you mind telling me where your sources are on the post-concealed weapons law violent crime statistics? I wouldn't mind having a gander myself.
 
It seems a little old fashioned, but is what I'm hearing about a strictly formulaic cutoff for interviews actually the case here? I mean, I attend a prestigious university and have a 3.5 GPA, but is the difficulty of my undergraduate institution not taken into account at all in the formula? I mean, I guess if I'm stuck in the third round of interviews (which would be great, don't get me wrong) at least I'll stand out, but geez, why wouldn't the admission committee actually review the applications first? I just wondered if one of you guys on the inside, or someone who is at least more familiar with the OU system could let me know if they took anything at all other than numbers into account for interview scheduling. Thanks. Also, I've found this thread extremely informative, thanks for keeping us all posted on letters going out etc.
 
Dr Turninkoff said:
I'm not arguing over AMSA's "marketing strategies". However, I do feel that it is legitimate that a medical association takes a stance against handguns, just as they should against cigarettes, fast food, and all of the other problems that plague our health care system. Anyway, I don't think that either of us wants to get into a message board argument over this, because we each obviously have our own opinions. I just wanted to put my 2 cents in earlier because everything I hear on this thread is anti-AMSA and I'm kind of sick of it. If people want to know what AMSA is about, they can go read the webpage.

I've known three people in my life that have had their houses burglarized. In each ease, the criminals stole handguns and hunting rifles. I'm sure thieves would love to see an NRA sticker on a possible target house. They would just try to hit them when they aren't home, then peddle the guns on the street.

Also, would you mind telling me where your sources are on the post-concealed weapons law violent crime statistics? I wouldn't mind having a gander myself.
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http://www.wireless-home-security-system.net/home_security_oklahoma_crime_statistics.html

Note the increase in violent crime up until 1995, and then the decline
Murder, aggr. assault, robbery and total violent crime all peak then drop off.
What could have caused this, I wonder quietly to myself?

Anyway, the fact that you've only known three people who've been burglarized is pretty amazing. I wonder what those stats are in Colombia or South Africa where handgun ownership is illegal. The fact that you think that somehow owning a gun would make a person MORE likely to get broken into, is even more so, and just underscores the pointless nature of us arguing about the topic. We have fundamental differences, so why even waste time arguing.

We can debate the gun thing, or any other item on the liberal agenda until we're blue in the face, but what's the point? Besides, I've got to get off here and hit anatomy for the last few minutes, and there's much better topics for this board. You think that a medical student association should be anti-gun because it's somehow better for the public and more "in-line" with how physicians should think. I don't accept your premise, but it's your right to hold it. However, using the same argument, I find it odd that AMSA assumes that future physicians somehow support socialized medicine and access to not only abortion, but partial birth abortion (that goes along with Hippocrates how exactly?). They are even against malpractice caps for God's sake. How, exactly is that pro-physician? Answer: It's not, but it's anti-Bush and that's more important to the left.

(BTW, stereotypically equating "conservative Republican" with "uneducated" was the offensive assumption that cost the democrats the elections). One does not have to trade in their moral and ethical stances on social issues when receiving a post-graduate degree.

Nuff arguing. Congrats to those accepted! Hope more of you get your letters quickly. I remember the waiting process. It was the worst part. I'd rather be stressing over anatomy anyday.

Lata
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you're right, it's pointless to continue this argument, but on a final note, to compare countries like colombia and s.africa with ours in terms of gun ownership laws isn't reasonable. pick any modern industrialized nation with strict gun control laws and compare their violent crime statistics with ours. like you and i both said, this argument isn't going to end, but it's something that is healthy to think about.
 
overrated said:
It seems a little old fashioned, but is what I'm hearing about a strictly formulaic cutoff for interviews actually the case here? I mean, I attend a prestigious university and have a 3.5 GPA, but is the difficulty of my undergraduate institution not taken into account at all in the formula? I mean, I guess if I'm stuck in the third round of interviews (which would be great, don't get me wrong) at least I'll stand out, but geez, why wouldn't the admission committee actually review the applications first? I just wondered if one of you guys on the inside, or someone who is at least more familiar with the OU system could let me know if they took anything at all other than numbers into account for interview scheduling. Thanks. Also, I've found this thread extremely informative, thanks for keeping us all posted on letters going out etc.
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I am, like you, still waiting for the interview letter. I think you are right that they are only looking at GPA and MCAT to give interviews. My gpa 3.53 and mcat 27 are nothing to write home about but I hope to stand out in interviews because of my work experience, graduate degree etc. It's been really hard to read all of the posts with everyone getting interviews and even acceptances when I have heard nothing. 🙁 It kind of makes me doubt myself. But, look at the positives, if you do have exceptional parts of your application (besides gpa and mcat) you will really stand out in the third round.
I hope we hear something soon! Go third-rounders! 😛 (I hope I'll be one)
 
I just found out today that I was accepted!! I interviewed in the first round. It's nice to not have to worry about getting in somewhere. Now I can relax during my other interviews.

I don't know if OU is going only by the formula because I had a first day interview and my stats aren't amazing. I got a 30P on the mcat and my gpa is 3.78.

I think they may have looked at some factors besides that. In state may have mattered and maybe major as mine is electrical engineering. But there are definitely lots of 3rd round acceptances from what I was told during a presentation last year that OU did.

Good Luck everybody. I'm gonna celebrate hard core tonight 😀
 
Well, as the bitterness reached climax, I was rewarded with a beautiful letter for a Feb. 8th, 9am interview. I'm very excited to say the least. Congrats to all of you who have already gotten acceptances, maybe I'll be joining you next year!
 
I agree the interview formula thing is kind of myopic. I suppose it is fair to objectively rank everyone on numbers initially, but it would definitely make more sense to to look at more than that. Especially for us non-traditional applicants. I'm an in-stater and I got an interview offer at Pitt about 2 weeks before OU. Go figure...

I was also wondering if any of you first round studs are considering other schools? Curious as to how many might take an acceptance elsewhere at some point.
 
als12179 said:
I agree the interview formula thing is kind of myopic. I suppose it is fair to objectively rank everyone on numbers initially, but it would definitely make more sense to to look at more than that. Especially for us non-traditional applicants. I'm an in-stater and I got an interview offer at Pitt about 2 weeks before OU. Go figure...

I was also wondering if any of you first round studs are considering other schools? Curious as to how many might take an acceptance elsewhere at some point.
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Congrats on the OU and Pitt interviews. I have a couple other interviews lined up at some mid-tier private schools (tulane, einstein and drexel). itll be difficult to not choose OU unless I am completely in love with the school when I go for an interview. The price of OU is to good of a deal as compared to private school tuition, and I just loved everything going on at OU.
best of luck on the interviews.
 
centig said:
I just found out today that I was accepted!! I interviewed in the first round. It's nice to not have to worry about getting in somewhere. Now I can relax during my other interviews.

I don't know if OU is going only by the formula because I had a first day interview and my stats aren't amazing. I got a 30P on the mcat and my gpa is 3.78.

I think they may have looked at some factors besides that. In state may have mattered and maybe major as mine is electrical engineering. But there are definitely lots of 3rd round acceptances from what I was told during a presentation last year that OU did.

Good Luck everybody. I'm gonna celebrate hard core tonight 😀
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Congrats. I celebrated tonight kinda hard core as well, as it is the end of the last test block. Yes, we have one more BS test, and yes, it is in 6 hours, and no I haven't been to bed yet, but I did manage to consume a large amount of pre-test EtOH, so whatever. Point being is, biochem and anatomy are officially a thing of the past. BOO-YAH BABY!
Night yo.
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als12179 said:
I agree the interview formula thing is kind of myopic. I suppose it is fair to objectively rank everyone on numbers initially, but it would definitely make more sense to to look at more than that. Especially for us non-traditional applicants. I'm an in-stater and I got an interview offer at Pitt about 2 weeks before OU. Go figure...

I was also wondering if any of you first round studs are considering other schools? Curious as to how many might take an acceptance elsewhere at some point.
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especially considering it doesn't take into account difficulty of institution or courseload.
 
Well it finally came. I have an interview on Feb 10th at 9:00am. 🙂
Yee Ha!!!!
 
Being an OSU graduate and fan, it's going to be fun ragging on the OU fans when OSU actually wins. Even when I'm attending OU, I will not cheer for OU during the OSU-OU game.

How are the intramural sports at OU? Are they pretty competitive or are they just goofing around for fun?
 
well, i'm part of the club. the big red envelope was a nice touch. good luck everyone with interviews. a word of advice; if you think your interview didn't go as great as everyone else's, don't worry. i wasn't sure how mine went (everyone else told me how easy their interviewers were...mine weren't) and they still gave me the 10k scholarship like pbehzad. so keep your heads up and enjoy the free lunch! :luck:
 
Dr Turninkoff said:
...and they still gave me the 10k scholarship like pbehzad. so keep your heads up and enjoy the free lunch! :luck:
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Is the 10k for just the first year or all four years?

For everyone who is currently attending OU Med school: How are you paying for it? Scholarships, grants, loans, jobs, rich parents, etc?
 
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