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Getting back on track here, I’m not saying make tuition 0 for the first 2 years, obviously that wouldn’t work. Just shift it accordingly. It doesn’t cost 50k+ A year to learn basic sciences... For the clinical years, sure I get it. There are a lot of pockets that need greasing.
I’m surprised the government is basically writing blank checks to these schools. Aren’t they like over a trillion in debt? Once **** hits the fan, the golden goose ain’t gonna be laying eggs no more and that sucks for the people who need to finish their education.
Example: CCOM charges 70k per student (tuition only btw) with a class of 200. That’s 14mill a year in tuition only. Drop in the bucket for big brother but quite the nest egg for others...
We could make even a better case for undergrad institutions. Some undergrad schools have higher tuition and COA then most state med schools. My HS buddy went to undergrad with COA of ~60k/yr.

I agree that pre-clinical years do not cost ~40k just for lectures alone, but there are other resources students use during those 2 years. Plus, that 40k pays for library place and resources, people taking care of the facilities, administration, utilities, wellness center (if you have one), labs, clinical exposure or SIM, SIM patients, exam software and support, IT support, etc. There is a lot more we can list that is paid by our tuition.

Unless we get rid of physical med school completely for the first 2 years, I dont see how we can really unjustify tuition for the first 2 years. Even if you study on your own somehow through other resources and do board prep on your own, you would have to pay for all the tests and support that comes with it. And then go straight into clinical years. But again, you need the school and its support for rotation spots.
 

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Getting back on track here, I’m not saying make tuition 0 for the first 2 years, obviously that wouldn’t work. Just shift it accordingly. It doesn’t cost 50k+ A year to learn basic sciences... For the clinical years, sure I get it. There are a lot of pockets that need greasing.
I suggest you become a dean someday. One of the perks is getting to choose the hill you die on.
 
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libertyyne

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What a wild time it would be to see an apprenticeship model for medical school. For the first preclinical years there could be alternative ways of obtaining tuition dollars from students, like fee's for administrative costs related to tracking USMLE progresss, to access the library, to obtain basic materials, to get access to skill labs and SPs.

Arent there already 3 year MD programs, so it must be sustainable or close to it.