Physicians Working as Nurses

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

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Sure great. So has she made an attempt to reach out to agencies and been continuously lowballed?

The amount offered isn’t enough to justify her going back to work, finding and paying for childcare, and putting herself at risk. There is a price at which she would do it, but no one has offered it. Maybe that makes her a selfish person, but it’s not worth the money to us.

 

[MarkDe]

Surgeons-in-training learn important skills to back up key allies during the coronavirus pandemic nurses

Surgical residents at USC medical centers have embraced being trained for nursing duties as part of caring for COVID-19 patients.

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We also have plenty IMGs working as nurses

I've recently done more nursing stuff (IV, blood draw, ABGs, drip titration, BiPAP set up, Foleys, EKGs, bladder scan, pt triaging especially ambulances, EMS triage, splinting, pushing pt to imaging...) just cause of workload, slow staff There are a number of excellent essays for medical students at Nursing Profession Essays and Papers - NursingPaper a site where various scientific papers are written.

Sometimes you gotta do it if want it done fast and accurate

Yes, I also observe this situation with nurses, it seems to me very unprofessional, in my opinion. I agree with you.

 

[DazedWanderer]

Healthcare systems and insurance companies have money to burn and if forced, they could pay enough to fill any position necessary. Society is undergoing a major rotation and it is becoming obvious that the wrong things have been valued and overcompensated. Entertainers (athletes, TV/movie stars, musicians) have been valued higher than the guardians of life and health. Maybe the administrators will be forced to reconsider what fair market value is for quality healthcare workers. If you pay enough, EVERY position can be filled and the clipboard workers will gladly return to patient care in droves.

The difference is that the population at large is happy to throw down big money on entertainment and luxuries like premium entertainment, nice cars, and travel, but despise the idea of having to pay money for healthcare that will save their life or vastly improve their quality of life. People do not value the skill or knowledge of healthcare professionals at fair market value. Given trending public sentiments, it's only a matter of time before healthcare is socialized in this country and the compensation of physicians will be significantly reduced and artificially capped far below fair market value to reflect that.

More and more people are pointing to Europe as a model, where physicians spend 12+ years busting ass and studying hard to make the equivalent of around 130k USD as an anesthesiologist; less than the computer programmer who has an undergraduate degree and works cushy 9-5 office hours from home, never misses a weekend or a holiday with his family, has no responsibility of people's lives in their hands daily, no threat of being personally sued at any time. They get a higher salary than the doctor because making video games and websites holds more monetary value in the eyes of society than life-saving surgery. Ultimately this is because people feel like healthcare should be provided as a charity, and if doctors want pay commensurate with their skill, education, and long, irregular, stressful work hours then they are just greedy. They should be happy to slave away in graduate education for a decade with minimal compensation and massive debt burden, forego formative years with their children, sacrifice the health of the relationship with their spouse in order to see patients at all hours of the night and on all holidays without any thanks, and it should all be done on fixed socialist wages... because being a doctor is a privilege and being allowed to help people should be thanks enough!