PokeWWon: A Wild Kanto Adventure - Champs Season 12 Practice Game Thread

[potentialsheltervet]

That's the second time you didn't answer me this cycle.

Here, keep a punchcard. Maybe I'll give you a free pizza.

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[moonstermash]

Actually, one last post...

@potentialsheltervet Am I your only suspect? If I flipped town now, where would you go next?

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Actually, one last post...

@potentialsheltervet Am I your only suspect? If I flipped town now, where would you go next?

You are my absolute primary suspect. I have far fewer reasons to suspect anyone else compared to you.
If you flipped town, I'd probably re-eval SAR.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Actually. Rereading all of EOD1, mayo avoided interacting with the genny yeet whatsoever despite being on and asking about other votes. He did the same when the moon wagon burst out. However, mayo talked a lot about Clem and seemed skeptical of him being cleared.
If mayo flips mafia, moon is my next choice tbh

I bring this post back up and request consideration from the balcony.

 

[Animal Midwife]

green means post count increase; red means post count decreased

each new line represents another day cycle

KJQ
6
47
75
55

mad
10
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11

moon
47
73
64
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PSV
52
32
80
38

samac
163
125
155
134

SAR
70
19
37
31

If you want my own post count for comparison, you'll have to do it yourself.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Do you want to talk about it @madrigal01 ?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Well, whenever you're ready.

 

[madrigal01]

x9 Vanilla Town- 3 dead: Santy, Vampy, Clem -> Six Left
x1 Town Tracker- Killed, Zenge
x1 Town Doctor | Even Cycle | Hidden Modifier on Flip- Killed, JJJ
x1 Town Doctor | Odd Cycle | Hidden Modifier on Flip- Killed, Dina

x1 Mafia Jack of All Trades (x1 Track, x2 Roleblocker) | Ninja x1 | Alignment Flip Only- Still Alive
x1 Mafia Jack of All Trades (x1 Motion Detector, x2 Roleblocker) | Strongman x1 | Alignment Flip Only- Killed, Mayo
x1 Mafia Jack of All Trades (x1 Vigilante, x1 Role Cop, x1 Watcher) | Cycle 2+ | Alignment Flip Only- Killed, Genny

Sorry y'all had class but just quick thoughts before I go to bed. Have some appointments through out the day but will at least be reading and will hop on hopefully after everything to try and help. I know I haven't been as active as anyone else, just been a bad time for such an involved game!

If I'm doing everything right (please correct me if I'm wrong) there are 7 people left, 6 Vanilla Town and one Ninja Mafia. The ninja and roleblocker flavors don't seem too important now if I'm reading this right? It's mostly if other PRs are in play, and now there are none left. I think we're in a generally safe spot right now, potentially could choose wrong 2 "days" in a row and still come out on top, though obviously not the best option.

I don't really have any thoughts on the remaining players. I'm honestly shocked I've made it this far tbh
The numbers of posts are really interesting work, thanks for putting it together AM.
Most everyone's posts for me have been NAI. I've come to realize it's a lot harder to play mafia online than in person, body language is a huge thing for me I guess lol

I still don't like Samac's way of playing, but I'm unsure if that should make her a wolf. I do think the abrupt switch on mayo is suspicious though, as Moon mentioned.

I would like to hear AM's reasoning for voting PSV out of the gate. It was my understanding that Moon being next was consensus, but obviously we don't have JJJ to lead the charge anymore so.

SAR's been quiet these past couple days but I'm not one to talk, real life always comes first so I get it

I like that KJQ has been defending me as noob/town a lot, but even that can be wolfy sometimes. I think I mostly have a townread on them though, they seem genuinely interested in trying to solve.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Sorry y'all had class but just quick thoughts before I go to bed. Have some appointments through out the day but will at least be reading and will hop on hopefully after everything to try and help. I know I haven't been as active as anyone else, just been a bad time for such an involved game!

If I'm doing everything right (please correct me if I'm wrong) there are 7 people left, 6 Vanilla Town and one Ninja Mafia. The ninja and roleblocker flavors don't seem too important now if I'm reading this right? It's mostly if other PRs are in play, and now there are none left. I think we're in a generally safe spot right now, potentially could choose wrong 2 "days" in a row and still come out on top, though obviously not the best option.

I don't really have any thoughts on the remaining players. I'm honestly shocked I've made it this far tbh
The numbers of posts are really interesting work, thanks for putting it together AM.
Most everyone's posts for me have been NAI. I've come to realize it's a lot harder to play mafia online than in person, body language is a huge thing for me I guess lol

I still don't like Samac's way of playing, but I'm unsure if that should make her a wolf. I do think the abrupt switch on mayo is suspicious though, as Moon mentioned.

I would like to hear AM's reasoning for voting PSV out of the gate. It was my understanding that Moon being next was consensus, but obviously we don't have JJJ to lead the charge anymore so.

SAR's been quiet these past couple days but I'm not one to talk, real life always comes first so I get it

I like that KJQ has been defending me as noob/town a lot, but even that can be wolfy sometimes. I think I mostly have a townread on them though, they seem genuinely interested in trying to solve.

I stated my case here.

• Lied about me going after her every game.
• She was able to trust Zenge very quickly and accurate when he outright admitted he was intentionally being sketchy to avoid the nightkill.
• Encouraged vamp to vote offwagon (when she was questioning why genny was leading).
• Said flashwagons only benefit mafia.
• Said moon was more likely town then genny at the literal last minute but made no moves to switch even though they were close.
• Avoided talking to me yesterday to talk to Zenge and even then only really questioned him about mayo.
• Her only votes that day were to bounce between Zenge and mayo which isn't great if mayo is a wolf (because like Jay noted, he was never in real danger with Zenge wagon edging a the hammer) but far worse if both are village. This is because it shows indifference and a way to generate content without actually narrowing the POE.
• Spent today talking only of mayo packs when that is a greater than rand chance he's just village.
• Her posting style strongly overlaps with both Numbers and Plants in terms of how she treated me trying to push her.
• This one is less slamdunk I know PSV struggles to find and kill PRs while wolfing from what I modded last year. So the vt flips are only raising my suspicions.

 

[Animal Midwife]

You are my absolute primary suspect. I have far fewer reasons to suspect anyone else compared to you.
If you flipped town, I'd probably re-eval SAR.

Clem, moon, madrigal, and probably [Jay]

Just as a reminder, PSV said the above near EOD yesterday with no indication of why mad exited the POE especially as she had posted nothing at this point.

 

[Animal Midwife]

jays eyebrows have fused with mine

i feel even stronger

 

[KayJayQueue]

Well, you weren't so I don't see why it matters. Regardless, I do actually believe vamp and mad would have protected me. They saw I was mech cleared. PRs weren't finding each other unfortunately but they did find me by N1.

You’re using backwards logic based on knowledge you have now but didn’t have days 1-4 and that’s frustrating.

In what world were you (are you) mech cleared?! That’s just nonsense lol

 

[Animal Midwife]

You’re using backwards logic based on knowledge you have now but didn’t have days 1-4 and that’s frustrating.

In what world were you (are you) mech cleared?! That’s just nonsense lol

It's not nonsense. It's Newton's fourth law.

I always had the knowledge. I just didn't put in on thread because there was no point. You'll see I started softing my theory as early as D2 and it only got more confirmed with each passing hour. It was proven on D3.

 

[KayJayQueue]

It's not nonsense. It's Newton's fourth law.

I always had the knowledge. I just didn't put in on thread because there was no point. You'll see I started softing my theory as early as D2 and it only got more confirmed with each passing hour. It was proven on D3.

Wait hold on. What theory? You’re saying you had the knowledge day 2 who the doctors were and that the vig was 100% dead? Or am I misunderstanding you because this feels pretty ridiculous.

How exactly can you posture that you were found NIGHT ONE. By whom? What evidence do you have to support this?

And I find it weird that you’re also assuming things on behalf of madrigal and vamp here. Madrigal is still alive, you can literally just ask instead of claiming your subjective speculation as fact.

This is very odd gameplay.

 

[samac]

Sorry y'all had class but just quick thoughts before I go to bed. Have some appointments through out the day but will at least be reading and will hop on hopefully after everything to try and help. I know I haven't been as active as anyone else, just been a bad time for such an involved game!

If I'm doing everything right (please correct me if I'm wrong) there are 7 people left, 6 Vanilla Town and one Ninja Mafia. The ninja and roleblocker flavors don't seem too important now if I'm reading this right? It's mostly if other PRs are in play, and now there are none left. I think we're in a generally safe spot right now, potentially could choose wrong 2 "days" in a row and still come out on top, though obviously not the best option.

I don't really have any thoughts on the remaining players. I'm honestly shocked I've made it this far tbh
The numbers of posts are really interesting work, thanks for putting it together AM.
Most everyone's posts for me have been NAI. I've come to realize it's a lot harder to play mafia online than in person, body language is a huge thing for me I guess lol

I still don't like Samac's way of playing, but I'm unsure if that should make her a wolf. I do think the abrupt switch on mayo is suspicious though, as Moon mentioned.

I would like to hear AM's reasoning for voting PSV out of the gate. It was my understanding that Moon being next was consensus, but obviously we don't have JJJ to lead the charge anymore so.

SAR's been quiet these past couple days but I'm not one to talk, real life always comes first so I get it

I like that KJQ has been defending me as noob/town a lot, but even that can be wolfy sometimes. I think I mostly have a townread on them though, they seem genuinely interested in trying to solve.

I switched on mayo because we had mechanical information.

Can you please respond to my question about AM I tagged you in?

 

[samac]

green means post count increase; red means post count decreased

each new line represents another day cycle

KJQ
6
47
75
55

mad
10
12
13
11

moon
47
73
64
85

PSV
52
32
80
38

samac
163
125
155
134

SAR
70
19
37
31

If you want my own post count for comparison, you'll have to do it yourself.

Mad’s post count makes me mad

 

[SARdoghandler]

Hey y'all sorry for absence. I've still been sick but unfortunately baby got it too and woke up with a scary borderline hospital trip level fever this morning.

Looks like we're getting it under control but I'm probably not going to be at my best because I'm pretty freaking stressed about it. But if she just wants to snuggle all day, I might actually be "present" in thread more than usual

AMA

 

[samac]

Hey y'all sorry for absence. I've still been sick but unfortunately baby got it too and woke up with a scary borderline hospital trip level fever this morning.

Looks like we're getting it under control but I'm probably not going to be at my best because I'm pretty freaking stressed about it. But if she just wants to snuggle all day, I might actually be "present" in thread more than usual

AMA

I hope you both get feeling better.
How do you feel after Clem’s flip?

 

[SARdoghandler]

I'm gonna catch up with everything since night close now but in the meantime

Yeet moon

Weirdness at end of day felt very scrambling wolf trying to buy themselves another day

 

[SARdoghandler]

I hope you both get feeling better.
How do you feel after Clem’s flip?

I'm glad that we have that slot solved because everyone else has plenty of content to actually find a wolf.

I'm not interested in revisiting you, AM, KJQ, or mads as board options today. Not totally against a PSV yeet if others are convinced, but I think Moonster is acting more like a cornered lone wolf trying to buy time based on the last part of yesterday's cycle

 

[KayJayQueue]

unvote

Circumstances make my vote no longer necessary. Oh well.

 

[SARdoghandler]

Circumstances make my vote no longer necessary.

I might just be slow because of real life things, but what does this mean?

 

[KayJayQueue]

I might just be slow because of real life things, but what does this mean?

I had a reason to vote that’s no longer valid so I removed my vote.

 

[KayJayQueue]

I feel like I’ve been waiting hours to board this plane. Ugh. And it’s so short and my layover is so impractical. I just want get on the 5 hour flight and pass out. Until then I guess I’ll be checking here for something to do.

 

[samac]

I feel like I’ve been waiting hours to board this plane. Ugh. And it’s so short and my layover is so impractical. I just want get on the 5 hour flight and pass out. Until then I guess I’ll be checking here for something to do.

I have to actually work this morning rip

 

[KayJayQueue]

Omg delayed on the tarmac. If I miss my connection I will legit cry I’m so exhausted.

And I don’t know who is scum. 😭

 

[SARdoghandler]

Omg delayed on the tarmac. If I miss my connection I will legit cry I’m so exhausted.

And I don’t know who is scum. 😭

I hope the airplane gods work for you and you make the connection!

 

[moonstermash]

You are my absolute primary suspect. I have far fewer reasons to suspect anyone else compared to you.
If you flipped town, I'd probably re-eval SAR.

If I’m your only suspect, why aren’t you voting me?

 

[KayJayQueue]

I might miss my connection and be stranded in Chicago 😭

 

[moonstermash]

GTH, you have to vote right now, who are you voting?

@samac
@KayJayQueue
@madrigal01

(Other than the airplane gods; sorry about your delay, KJQ. I once got stuck in Los Angeles for 24 hours on an international trip, it wasn’t fun.)

 

[moonstermash]

PSV (1) - AM
moonster (1) - SAR

Current votes fwiw

 

[samac]

GTH, you have to vote right now, who are you voting?

@samac
@KayJayQueue
@madrigal01

(Other than the airplane gods; sorry about your delay, KJQ. I once got stuck in Los Angeles for 24 hours on an international trip, it wasn’t fun.)

You I think.

 

[KayJayQueue]

Whatever I did to will my body to the other end of the airport probably won’t bode well for my scumhunting ability today but I’ll try!

I’m just so happy I made this connection, I won’t even vote samac today lol

 

[supershorty]

Whatever I did to will my body to the other end of the airport

I think some people call this "running" 🤔

 

[KayJayQueue]

I think some people call this "running" 🤔

Oh no, it was a complete out of body experience. The mental and physical exhaustion mixed with stress mixed with adrenaline is a really insane drug that I don’t recommend lol

 

[supershorty]

complete out of body experience.

this is my general experience with running

 

[KayJayQueue]

this is my general experience with running

I wouldn’t know, I’ve never experienced the phenomenon known as “cardio”

 

[SARdoghandler]

I’m just so happy I made this connection, I won’t even vote samac today lol

I laughed out loud at this 😂

An out of body experience, she saw god, god said meh maybe leave samac for a cycle

 

[KayJayQueue]

I laughed out loud at this 😂

An out of body experience, she saw god, god said meh maybe leave samac for a cycle

And who am I to argue with god?

 

[WildZoo]

Whatever I did to will my body to the other end of the airport probably won’t bode well for my scumhunting ability today but I’ll try!

You said this was in Chicago, yes? I had a very similar experience once, had to run across the entirety of O'Hare in less than 10 minutes, -50/10 do not recommend, my lungs were unhappy for days. But hey made the connection lol

 

[potentialsheltervet]

If I’m your only suspect, why aren’t you voting me?

Vote moon

 

[potentialsheltervet]

@samac Do you have thoughts on mayo discussing the Zenge and KJQ wagons D1 but remaining silent on moon the same way he did genny, despite being present for their formations? I keep harping on this point but I feel it's important.

 

[supershorty]

You said this was in Chicago, yes? I had a very similar experience once, had to run across the entirety of O'Hare in less than 10 minutes, -50/10 do not recommend, my lungs were unhappy for days. But hey made the connection lol

I, too, have experienced sprinting across O'Hare, and was dripping sweat by the time I reached my gate.

 

[WildZoo]

A reminder that majority is in effect.
Majority = 4 votes.
If you hammer, stop posting and contact the mods.​

 

[moonstermash]

I'll vote PSV to answer that question as well, lol

Vote Tally

PSV (2) - AM, moon
moon (2) - SAR, PSV

Not voting (3) - samac, KJQ, madrigal

Hammer is 4 votes

 

[samac]

@samac Do you have thoughts on mayo discussing the Zenge and KJQ wagons D1 but remaining silent on moon the same way he did genny, despite being present for their formations? I keep harping on this point but I feel it's important.

Lemme look

 

[KayJayQueue]

I'll vote PSV to answer that question as well, lol

Vote Tally

PSV (2) - AM, moon
moon (2) - SAR, PSV

Not voting (3) - samac, KJQ, madrigal

Hammer is 4 votes

Mehhhh

 

[moonstermash]

Please no hammer until I at least try to post a full reads list lol

Probably won't be for at least 2 hours fwiw

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Me and moon, I guess

 

[moonstermash]

Mehhhh

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