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MD Possible Future vs Current Reality when choosing specialty

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I am a medical student in Canada who will be entering my second year soon, and I have been thinking of potential specialties I want to do. At this point in my life I am interested in surgical specialties and preparing for the heavy heavy workload and long hours. My life up to this point has been dedicated to school and working with not much else going on, and this pattern is continuing into medical school right now. With few meaningful relationships and a small extended family provinces away, I have always felt like putting medical school/residency/working as the main point in my life was the natural thing to do and I have found purpose in doing this so far. Another reason for this is wanting to be 'busy' because I prefer it over sitting at home alone with nothing to do.
However, I always worry that one day the realization will hit me that I spend all my time in the hospital just to go home and sit there alone if I continue on this path. Right now I don't have a desire to have a spouse/children, but I always worry that this will change once it's too late to do anything about it. There is also the social pressure to have a family and I definitely feel it always being one of the few single people in my social circle.
In short I am torn between dedicating myself to a challenging/surgical specialty because it is what interests me and I love, versus wondering if I should pursue something with a better lifestyle to potentially avoid personal life regret. Has anyone felt like this/made a decision like this before? I would appreciate any experiences had like this.
 
Most people find more happiness in their relationships (close family/close friends) than their job or where they live. But many people find more happiness in the work/accomplishments they make.

The question is, do you truly enjoy work more than anything else, or are you enjoying your studies/work because you just don't have "something better?" Because if a beautiful/handsome/smart/kind/etc future spouse shows up and you start a family, you may very well change your priorities. If you don't really long for that, perhaps that's a sign that your work accomplishments are more essential to your happiness. Many people crave to be specialists at something (think of your Richard Feynmans, Michael Jordans, etc). The only way to become that is by really working at it/practicing at it.

If that's what will bring you the most joy/happiness/fulfillment, there's nothing to be ashamed of for prioritizing that over a family. As to whether you'll regret it, it's hard to say--only you and time can tell that. However, I imagine most people who come to regret it either had the itch to start a family all along and ignored/suppressed that desire, or they may say they regret it because they feel they should, based on societal expectations. I've heard of plenty of people in old age say they wished they spent more time with their family. And I've heard of plenty of people who died really proud of their accomplishments/the mark they left on the world.
 
I would argue focus on the thing that interests you the most. Obviously lifestyle is a huge consideration as well regardless of your personal life, but there’s something to be said for actually enjoying your work too. For me, I love my work and found a great work life balance. As such, I have zero desire ever to retire. I’ll scale back in 20-25 years, but I truly enjoy and look forward to my work days. I also think I’m a happier person because I’m fulfilled in my professional life and I think that makes me a more pleasant person in other aspects of life.

Ok so now for the pearls about lifestyle and especially in surgery that nobody tells students by I shout from the rooftops whenever I can. Tuck some of this away for later, but I put it here just to give you some idea of how things shake out down the road:

1) your skills will determine your lifestyle. Applies in all fields, but especially in surgery. If you can do a case in 4 hours that takes another surgeon 8 hours, who has the better lifestyle? In my field, some faculty at my med school would have big cases that went til 8-10pm; those same cases in my residency would end around 2pm or earlier. Focus on developing your skills and your efficiency. The surgeon with lots of complications and take backs is coming in overnight and adding on cases all the time, canceling plans. The one who gets one emergent take back every 4-5 years has a very different life. Some docs see 25 patients a day and are writing notes until 6-8pm. Others see 40 and walk out at 4pm with all their notes done. If lifestyle is important to you, then getting the best training and becoming efficient should be high on your priority list. At times that may mean sacrificing a bigger “name” place in favor of training under better surgeons who are much faster. These are great questions to ask when it comes time to interview - case volumes, speed, efficiency - you can learn a lot.

2) lifestyle often hinges on other factors you can control IF (big if) you’re willing to make sacrifices. In the end, as a clinician you’re basically trading your time for money at a very favorable rate. I work 4 days a week, and adding another full day I could boost my comp 25%, but I’d rather a 3 day weekend every weekend. Medicine will take every second you’re willing to give it. Many docs grind it like mad when they’re young and single, then dial it back as they start families and have other obligations.

3) attending level lifestyle improvement often means changing jobs and/or locations, so make sure your life outside medicine is flexible. If you’re a young single neurosurgeon and grinding like some of ours, you can take in $2-4m+ per year. Those dudes take a ton of call and seemingly live in the hospital. But if you buy expensive cars and expensive homes and expensive toys, you’ll have a hard time switching and rebuilding later. If you live well but modestly and save aggressively, you’ll have all the freedom in the world. Once the family stuff starts happening, make lifestyle adjustments early since moving around gets tougher when kids and schools and whatnot enter the chat. You’ll have some lag time. If you live well within your means you can do whatever you want.

4) lifestyle is surgical fields also hinges on things partly under your control. For me as an ent, I make way more money in clinic than the OR, so that gives me lots of control. For surgeons who are primarily OR dependent, their lifestyle depends way more on OR availability and efficiency. Negotiating things like lots of reserved block time go a long way toward making things more predictable, or else you’re stuck adding things at odd hours and staying late or coming in on weekends to get cases done. The more in demand you are, the more leverage you have to get these things, hence why it’s almost impossible to renegotiate in your same job and often requires changing jobs or locations to somewhere you can get it.

5) beware the academic trap. There’s nobody more miserable than a mediocre academic. Lots of obligations and uncompensated time in academia. If you’ve got the academic interest and chops to be one of the fully funded surgeon scientists running a successful lab and operating, then go for it. But if you’re more of a clinician type and average academic, get out of academia after training. You’ll make more money and work fewer hours and probably be much happier. You may sacrifice resident coverage, but between Hospitalists admitting everything and mid levels that can round and assist in the OR, you can recreate most of the clinical benefits of academia without sacrificing your weekends to grant and manuscript writing.

In the end, even surgical fields offer a range of options in terms of lifestyle if you’ve made the choices that preserve your flexibility and allowed you to develop skill and efficiency. You can’t turn a neurosurgical practice into the lifestyle of a dermatology practice, but within your field you have a lot of flexibility to craft the life you want and to adjust your work life as your personal life evolves.
 
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In keeping with what the docs already have said- I'd focus on what makes you happy. I don't think that's money ultimately, and with CMS swiping a pen the right/wrong way the money for each specialty might change dramatically anyway (well, not sure how the money works in Canada)

Do a specialty that you love, that you can do for 40 years, and you'll be richer than doing derm or anesthesia for 10 years and trying to FIRE because you hate it.

The other component of being happy- life outside of work. I would not be a surgery resident for a million dollars a year. There's just no way. I like having time off.

You may not be excited about family life right now (believe me, I can relate), but why not take that into consideration? Very, very few physicians are happy being a crusader who works 100 hours a week for their whole life. Even if you never get married, you could always, like, get a hobby.......
 
I think it’s helpful to have a specialty you’re excited about because it gives you something to work toward, but I also think it’s important to stay open-minded. I’m interested in plastic surgery, especially the reconstructive side, but I know I haven’t experienced clinical rotations yet. My interests could definitely change once I’m exposed to more specialties. For now, having a goal motivates me to seek out relevant experiences while reminding myself that medicine has a lot to offer.