possible to get into medical school right after highschool?

[da8s0859q]

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i was just pointing out how immature these "mature college students" are being to the immature high school kid. Heh i dont need any honing of defense mechanisms, i dont give 2 craps about what other ppl say most times.

A question for questioning's sake: have you ever noticed that the more emphatically someone says they are not something, the more they are that something?

 

[TRAMD]

I don't think the OP will be able to graduate from high school with 100 credit hours of college.

Uh . . . no. That is three years of full-time college.

 

[coffeebythelake]

Uh . . . no. That is three years of full-time college.

Yeah, I know. I guess sarcasm doesn't work well on the Internet.

 

[TRAMD]

Yeah, I know. I guess sarcasm doesn't work well on the Internet.

Not always. If you had said "Well the OP should have no problem finishing 100 hours of college credits before finishing high school." I would have identified the sarcasm immediately. Sometimes it just has to be more obvious without voice inflections and facial expressions to augment the sarcasmissmistictism (sar-kaz-mizz-um-iss-tik-tiz-um . . . it is real word, look it up) of the statement.

 

[GoldShadow]

sarcasmissmistictism (sar-kaz-mizz-um-iss-tik-tiz-um . . . it is real word, look it up)

I trusted you man, I trusted you. 😡

 

[HumidBeing]

I trusted you man, I trusted you. 😡

😆

 

[45408]

I sure hope not. You wouldn't be ready for it anyways at an academic level.

 

[Nitrox]

I know you can do this in India, and possibly Europe. I know it's possible to go into Law School directly out of HS in Europe, and I know a few Indian docs who went on directly from HS.

As to here in the USA, as someone above said, I think it's only possible with one of the accelerated 6 year programs or BS/MD combined programs, and then only after you complete the undergrad portion in accordance with the program requirements. You may or may not have to take the MCAT - varies with the programs.

 

[laughsalot]

thanks for the advice guys. what do you guys think of getting a nursing degree in undergrad and then going to medical school? could you like work as a nurse at the same time while doing your intern/residency?

 

[patekpremed]

yeah because i heard the minimum requirements to get into alot of medical schools are:

• 1 year of Biology (with Lab)
• 1 year of Inorganic Chemistry (with Lab)
• 1 year of Organic Chemistry (with Lab)
• 1 year of English
• 1 year of Calculus or College Level Math
• 1 semester of Biochemistry (at select schools only)

i could probably finish all that in high school if i set my mind to it and then i could take the MCAT if i was ready right? i would have to take extra math during the summer though. i'm a freshmen in highschool. oh and my school has an IB diploma program too. that would look really good on my resume. i'm going to be in the program next year(sophmore)

I gotta tell you - I would be highly impressed if you were to pull this off (on an intellectual level). However, a few thoughts:
1) I don't think you could (i.e. it would be very difficult) complete all these courses, do well in the courses, and succeed on the MCAT, all while getting appropriate EC activities and suitable clinical exposure in high school.
2) Almost all medical schools are interested in your life experiences. Mid-pubescent high schoolers have very few meaningful ones (no offense intended...seriously)
3) Why in the name of Zeus' bunghole would you WANT to skip college? I don't mean any disrespect, but this baffles me 😕

Good luck in your endeavors.

 

[135892]

thanks for the advice guys. what do you guys think of getting a nursing degree in undergrad and then going to medical school? could you like work as a nurse at the same time while doing your intern/residency?

I would strongly recommend against this plan

 

[Doctor Doogie]

Get a good high school gpa, do well on the ACT or SAT and apply to 6 or 7 year accelerated programs. Easy as pie!

 

[foreverLaur]

thanks for the advice guys. what do you guys think of getting a nursing degree in undergrad and then going to medical school? could you like work as a nurse at the same time while doing your intern/residency?

sure if you think you can handle it on top of 60-80 hours a week. i mean, who needs sleep anyways?

 

[GoldShadow]

thanks for the advice guys. what do you guys think of getting a nursing degree in undergrad and then going to medical school? could you like work as a nurse at the same time while doing your intern/residency?

I call troll.

 

[Phillykid162]

e) dumb.

Why would you want to miss out on college? Regardless of whether or not it is possible (yes there are people that have gone to medical school at an incredibly young age http://www.cnn.com/2003/EDUCATION/08/25/sprj.sch.wonder.kid.ap/) I just don't see why you would WANT to do it. We all want to be doctors, yes. Its great to be passionate and shoot for the stars in planning your future. But I think part of the maturity aspect that people keep talking about is realizing that there is a whole lot of learning that goes on in college that isn't found in books or a classroom. Chill out, do some dumb stuff like everybody does, and enjoy highschool.

"In the end, he says he chose medicine because he wants to help people."

Hey! How come he gets away with that answer?

 

[lex]

yeah because i heard the minimum requirements to get into alot of medical schools are:

• 1 year of Biology (with Lab)
• 1 year of Inorganic Chemistry (with Lab)
• 1 year of Organic Chemistry (with Lab)
• 1 year of English
• 1 year of Calculus or College Level Math
• 1 semester of Biochemistry (at select schools only)

i could probably finish all that in high school if i set my mind to it and then i could take the MCAT if i was ready right? i would have to take extra math during the summer though. i'm a freshmen in highschool. oh and my school has an IB diploma program too. that would look really good on my resume. i'm going to be in the program next year(sophmore)

Yes, it is possible... but in a third-world country...Malaysia, Thailand, etc. Medicine is considered an undergraduate major.. it's just that you complete your degree longer instead of 4 years. It is an option, but I would not recommend it. US schools require a bachelors degree.

 

[patekpremed]

Yes, it is possible... but in a third-world country...Malaysia, Thailand, etc. Medicine is considered an undergraduate major.. it's just that you complete your degree longer instead of 4 years. It is an option, but I would not recommend it. US schools require a bachelors degree.

U.S. medical schools actually do not require a Bachelor's degree for admission.

 

[Tin Man]

Oh, give me a break.

Almost every thread I read on here is, "How can I get into Medical school faster/easier/have a better chance? I can't? But I WANNA!!!!".

I hear way too many of you whining about the four years of college you have to go through. This guy is already in the same mindset as all of you, and has all of high school PLUS college to go through. Eight years is a lot longer to look forward to something than four, so I'm imagining that he's doing the same thing many of you do on these forums, except I imagine he might have more of a reason to do it than you.

 

[UFMed]

Agree with this. You don't want to miss out on college. College is where you have the most freedom to try new things, the most time to socialize, have new experiences. In med school you will spend most of your time in the library or wards. A lot of the study skills and social skills you pick up in college will help you tremendously in medicine. And for many, college is a great and fun experience. You probably learn more outside of the classroom than in during those 4 years.

Once you start med school, you launch into the next phase of your life and your social life takes a back burner to your professional aspirations. So your teens/twenties are basically over (or at least scaled back significantly). People who want to skip past or abbreviate college for med school don't have a good sense of what med school is all about. You need to get college out of your system or you will spend med school lamenting what could have been, because that iron gate swings shut once you get to med school. There really is no rush, med school will always be there if you want it enough. But at 15 you really shouldn't want it that bad yet -- you cannot possibly have enough exposure over other choices, don't know your aptitudes, and probably have a vague and inaccurate sense of what medicine is all about. It is not like House or ER or Grey's at all.

Generally in the US, there are few to no programs where you skip college and go straight to med school. There are 6-7 year combined BS/MD programs, which are becoming fewer and fewer each year as the average age of physicians goes up each year, and the emphasis on life experience is increasing. And there are occasional prodigies like the 12 year old who went to Chicago a few years back, which tend to be more publicity stunts than evidence that adcoms are actually open to this. They are the rare unicorns of med school; you will never see a herd.

And med school interviewers focus heavilly on maturity. This doesn't mean no teenager will be adequately mature, but the average one sure isn't. And maturity has nothing to do with whether you can do the science courses. Most people with decent grades can, but that doesn't make them mature. It is an issue for the latter two years of med school, when you will be dealing with heavy subjects such as death and disease, talking with patients and families about hospice (end of life) care or DNR orders (pulling the plug), dealing with patients older than your grandparents. Dealing with dying children. Dealing with sexuality and sex practice questions. For this kind of stuff, a few more years of seasoning as a college student often make all the difference.

Other countries have systems where you go straight into med school from high school. They predate the US system, and the US system has largely rejected that model, striving for something very different in its med students. Thus far people are happy with the kind of physician we are churning out, and the average age has continued to climb over time.

OP, whether you are serious or not I think Law2Doc has the best advice here. You should seriously consider going to college when the time is ready. Not everything in life is about quick academic progress. In college you will experience a metamorphosis and gain perspectives that will shape your view of the world and your self. You may even learn that medicine is not your calling. I wouldn't pay too much attention to what your mom has heard on the grapevine... there is plenty of misinformation that can cause parents to pressure their children to outdue themselves. You only win by going through the standard process.

 

[LucidSplash]

Does anyone else feel like they need a big rubber stamp with bright red ink that says "WHY ARE WE STILL TALKING ABOUT THIS?" for half the pre-allo forum? Threads like this go on FOREVER because people read few of the preceding posts and post redundant comments even when the OP is no longer in the picture. This issue (and others) have been thoroughly discussed and put to rest. Let it die. 🙂

 

[luitime2585]

I will try and find the link for everyone, but there is this new program located in New York City that actually accepts highschool students into a 6 year medical program. I think the offices or headquarters of the program are located in Manhattan, so its possible.

 

[katarina90]

From what I've heard from advisors and med school matriculants, college is what med schools really really look at.

However, I totally can see where you're coming from; I was (still am) motivated to get into med school before twenty. I think your best bet is, like other people have mentioned, to look for an accelerated program.

But also...you're a freshman in high school! I would suggest looking into graduating early if what you want is to get into med school at a younger age than most. As long as you can pull the grades to get into a decent university, you could graduate high school a year or even two early if you are motivated enough. I started college at sixteen (I began summer college literally a month after graduation), and am now seventeen. You can do your bachelor's degree in 3-4 yrs. as long as you can keep your grades up. That way, you'll still be younger but won't miss out on the college education which is important, and still be able to do research/volunteer/other extracurriculars.

 

[TRAMD]

Missing out on the academics of college isn't the big deal. It is missing out on the EXPERIENCE of college that would be the true loss.

 

[gaki]

http://www.amazon.com/Medical-School-High-Applicants-Admission/dp/0595227252
im not affiliated with this book btw.

you can also go directly to some undergrad-medschool combo, like below:
http://med.cuny.edu/

maybe it would also help to look up if medical themed magnet high schools in your area can help:
http://www.antioch.k12.ca.us/School-Website.asp?ID=94556

 

[TRAMD]

I was actually accepted to medical school out of high school with a scholarship but still had to complete undergrad and keep up at least a 3.5. It was nice to know but doesn't cut your time any, just some of the stress for later.

 

[PinkKitten]

whoa guys, come on. this is supposed to be a forum where people can pose questions/concerns and discuss them freely. Some of the comments people are making to OP are completely uncalled for, and those people aren't really exhibiting the maturity level to go to med school. Simple answers to the question without undue commentary would suffice.

And to OP: college is pretty amazing! don't miss out 🙂

 

[RySerr21]

dartmouth gave a presenation at my school today and the lady mentioned the age range for this incoming class is 16 to 56....... im assuming the 16 year old is coming straight from high school....wouldnt be surpised if it was straight from middle school (exaggeration). the thought of a 16 year old going to medical school baffles my mind.

 

[quenton cassidy]

My friend if you could pull this off, and subsequently succeed in med school, more power to you, that is assuming you are still alive after the heart attack you have from the stress/exhaustion.

But hey what are enjoying your pre-college, college years for when you can cram 4 years of difficult college classes, mcat studying, volunteering/research, and exhausting application cycles all into high school, i mean it doesn't matter what your high school grades are right because you are going straight to med school.

 

[TheRealMD]

dartmouth gave a presenation at my school today and the lady mentioned the age range for this incoming class is 16 to 56....... im assuming the 16 year old is coming straight from high school....wouldnt be surpised if it was straight from middle school (exaggeration). the thought of a 16 year old going to medical school baffles my mind.

Those people usually skip the lower grades to get to that point. Skipping college is a bit hard. Compressing grades 1-6 isn't as much (assuming you don't kill the kid).

 

[paranoid_eyes]

OP: there is no way in hell anyone (even jesus himself) would make it into med school without at least a couple years in undergrad.


here's a good option i wish i had done (im serious about this): drop out of high school, take the GED, enroll in community college. transfer to a university after two years. apply to med school.

however, if you aren't smart (im talking really smart, not the "i think im smart, and if i work hard i can do it-smart") you will waste your life and never get into a med school. i mean, you have to get a really high gpa/mcat to be taken seriously as a 19 year old applicant.

 

[drndeluca]

Dear OP,

So I'm not going to be completely pessimistic and say that there is no way possible for you to do it. Because I graduated from NYU at the summer after I graduated high school, so yes it would be possible for you to have your BS/BA which ever you choose.

But...
I will say that medical school is a huge time investment, as well as financial; so it isn't something to be looked upon lightly. But, if you sit down and do a personal inventory of your life and you still fell that it is the direction that you should go toward I couldn't see anything that would be stopping you.

If you have any questions that I may be able to help you with feel free to contact me via e-mail: [email protected]

 

[xrevision]

If you even have thought about working as a nurse, while at the same time being a resident/intern... you have not explored the issue enough. You need to learn more about the path to becoming a doctor.

 

[TRAMD]

Dear OP,

So I'm not going to be completely pessimistic and say that there is no way possible for you to do it. Because I graduated from NYU at the summer after I graduated high school, so yes it would be possible for you to have your BS/BA which ever you choose.

But...
I will say that medical school is a huge time investment, as well as financial; so it isn't something to be looked upon lightly. But, if you sit down and do a personal inventory of your life and you still fell that it is the direction that you should go toward I couldn't see anything that would be stopping you.

If you have any questions that I may be able to help you with feel free to contact me via e-mail: [email protected]

Skipping English classes makes it easier to graduate early.

 

[desilov3]

its pretty funny how most of you tend to argue with a little kid, especailly on the fact that u r all very "mature"...and i dont mean to rain on anyones parade or anything but the kids right
i finished my pre reqs and i took 2 courses at a community college. one in my freshmen year and the other in my sophmore year, which were two ROP classes: pharmacy clerk and hospital occupations
i got accepted in a medical school in Philadelphia and i didnt even graduate from high school yet and it doesnt require a bach degree....sooo biznats how do u feel now?!!!
oh and as for the kid...as long as ur motivated and ur sure that u can do it
then heck yeah u can...dont let all these ppl fool u bcuz theyre jus mad that they lacked the skills of getting into a med school without theyre bach degree...MORE POWER TO YOU!!!👍
and dont even one of u moe foes say that this is coming from an "immature" girl jus bcuz i tend to use more ghetto words...mostly bcuz u old ppl cant keep up with them
but wtever the case may be...i bet all of u can be immature at times and ill admit that i can be too but honestly WHO CARES

 

[moe_4eva]

its pretty funny how most of you tend to argue with a little kid, especailly on the fact that u r all very "mature"...and i dont mean to rain on anyones parade or anything but the kids right
i finished my pre reqs and i took 2 courses at a community college. one in my freshmen year and the other in my sophmore year, which were two ROP classes: pharmacy clerk and hospital occupations
i got accepted in a medical school in Philadelphia and i didnt even graduate from high school yet and it doesnt require a bach degree....sooo biznats how do u feel now?!!!
oh and as for the kid...as long as ur motivated and ur sure that u can do it
then heck yeah u can...dont let all these ppl fool u bcuz theyre jus mad that they lacked the skills of getting into a med school without theyre bach degree...MORE POWER TO YOU!!!👍
and dont even one of u moe foes say that this is coming from an "immature" girl jus bcuz i tend to use more ghetto words...mostly bcuz u old ppl cant keep up with them
but wtever the case may be...i bet all of u can be immature at times and ill admit that i can be too but honestly WHO CARES

Digging up a thread that just won't die: +1
Using the bestest grmmr in the wurld: +1
Making me cringe at whomever will be your "patient": +1
Letting me thank God you'll never be a doctor: Priceless.

 

[da8s0859q]

its pretty funny how most of you tend to argue with a little kid, especailly on the fact that u r all very "mature"...and i dont mean to rain on anyones parade or anything but the kids right
i finished my pre reqs and i took 2 courses at a community college. one in my freshmen year and the other in my sophmore year, which were two ROP classes: pharmacy clerk and hospital occupations
i got accepted in a medical school in Philadelphia and i didnt even graduate from high school yet and it doesnt require a bach degree....sooo biznats how do u feel now?!!!
oh and as for the kid...as long as ur motivated and ur sure that u can do it
then heck yeah u can...dont let all these ppl fool u bcuz theyre jus mad that they lacked the skills of getting into a med school without theyre bach degree...MORE POWER TO YOU!!!👍
and dont even one of u moe foes say that this is coming from an "immature" girl jus bcuz i tend to use more ghetto words...mostly bcuz u old ppl cant keep up with them
but wtever the case may be...i bet all of u can be immature at times and ill admit that i can be too but honestly WHO CARES

A troll or an idiot. Either way, it makes me wish that we had a Digg- or Youtube-like system on SDN where, after a sufficient number of negative votes, posts would collapse into the ether of a forum page, never to be read by anyone with anything useful to say ever again.

A boy can dream.

 

[drndeluca]

Skipping English classes makes it easier to graduate early.

Tramd,

First, I must apologize for my hideous grammar.

Second, I'm not an English major, so I don't have to form perfect paragraphs. The kid isn't asking to become a PhD candidate he is referring to medical school.

So I must say, that I hope you concentrate more on medicine than grammar usage; or else your four years of medical school where put to waste.

 

[TehDoc]

I got a good laugh for the night. Thank you guys.

 

[bcat85]

"In the end, he says he chose medicine because he wants to help people."

Hey! How come he gets away with that answer?

I noticed that too. I call B.S. I wrote UChicago a beautiful essay and they sent me a turd sandwich in an envelope.

U.S. medical schools actually do not require a Bachelor's degree for admission.

I think some actually do.

Oh, give me a break.

Almost every thread I read on here is, "How can I get into Medical school faster/easier/have a better chance? I can't? But I WANNA!!!!".

I hear way too many of you whining about the four years of college you have to go through. This guy is already in the same mindset as all of you, and has all of high school PLUS college to go through. Eight years is a lot longer to look forward to something than four, so I'm imagining that he's doing the same thing many of you do on these forums, except I imagine he might have more of a reason to do it than you.

Word. I would have missed a lot not going to college.

its pretty funny how most of you tend to argue with a little kid, especailly on the fact that u r all very "mature"...and i dont mean to rain on anyones parade or anything but the kids right
i finished my pre reqs and i took 2 courses at a community college. one in my freshmen year and the other in my sophmore year, which were two ROP classes: pharmacy clerk and hospital occupations
i got accepted in a medical school in Philadelphia and i didnt even graduate from high school yet and it doesnt require a bach degree....sooo biznats how do u feel now?!!!
oh and as for the kid...as long as ur motivated and ur sure that u can do it
then heck yeah u can...dont let all these ppl fool u bcuz theyre jus mad that they lacked the skills of getting into a med school without theyre bach degree...MORE POWER TO YOU!!!👍
and dont even one of u moe foes say that this is coming from an "immature" girl jus bcuz i tend to use more ghetto words...mostly bcuz u old ppl cant keep up with them
but wtever the case may be...i bet all of u can be immature at times and ill admit that i can be too but honestly WHO CARES

Might this be the return of Stewie U?

EDIT: I decided upon further review that this absolutely must be a joke.

 

[8744]

No offense but if you are still using words like "stfu" your not ready not only for medical school, but any other professional school. 👎

Word.

 

[MichiganEMTInt]

thanks for the advice guys. what do you guys think of getting a nursing degree in undergrad and then going to medical school? could you like work as a nurse at the same time while doing your intern/residency?

No.

However, if you do this, please PM me as soon as humanly possible. I want to know how to do it. This would honestly be the closest to supernatural mankind has ever encountered. I don't think I can even imagine what it would be like, and I would be incredibly impressed. I hate to tell you, but in order to work as a nurse and complete a residency at the same time you would have to go to that little dial (I forgot where it is) to turn up the amount of hours in a day. 60 would be a nice starting place.

 

[MWK]

 

[LikeClockWork]

If anyone ever asks what the "wall of hate" is, I think this thread should be Exhibit A.

 

[Crash88]

Smart people perform there research before asking ridiculous questions on an anonymous forum.

i'd say this is a way for him to do his research- didn't know there was a prereq to asking questions on a forum specifically designed for such a thing, no matter how ridiculous

w/e ...if you want to demean a clearly determined/slightly deluded high school freshman who is 7 years younger than you...go ahead- not my business

 

[ellie42]

How about just finish everything faster? Do high school in 3 years and then college in 3? That way, you get a good compromise. You still get all the experience and you get to be ~2 years ahead of the 'normal' rate. My friend did something similar for law school and now is a lawyer at 24. 😀
Easy breezy.

 

[GoldShadow]

I saw this at the local Borders and was debating buying it.

 

[foreverLaur]

How about just finish everything faster? Do high school in 3 years and then college in 3? That way, you get a good compromise. You still get all the experience and you get to be ~2 years ahead of the 'normal' rate. My friend did something similar for law school and now is a lawyer at 24. 😀
Easy breezy.

I know a few people who did two full years of post-secondary and graduated high school in 4 years but also got an associates degree. They then were able to easily graduate college in 2 years.

Basically the same time frame as you, but I think this option is more feasible... at least in my state. Technically, you were still enrolled as a full time college student for 4 years even though 2 of them you were also a high school student.

If you can pull something like that off with the scores, ECs, and GPA to get into medical school... more power to ya.

 

[katieo]

I saw this at the local Borders and was debating buying it.

Haha, my friend gave me that as a birthday present. I have now earned the "most prestigious degree" of Medicinae Doctoris.

 

[LucidSplash]

How about just finish everything faster? Do high school in 3 years and then college in 3? That way, you get a good compromise. You still get all the experience and you get to be ~2 years ahead of the 'normal' rate. My friend did something similar for law school and now is a lawyer at 24. 😀
Easy breezy.

?? You can be a lawyer at 24 without skipping anything. The average college grad is 21 years old and law school is 3 years.

On another note, I can't believe someone revived this thread.

 

[TRAMD]

Tramd,

First, I must apologize for my hideous grammar.

Second, I'm not an English major, so I don't have to form perfect paragraphs. The kid isn't asking to become a PhD candidate he is referring to medical school.

So I must say, that I hope you concentrate more on medicine than grammar usage; or else your four years of medical school where put to waste.

Huh?

Grammar doesn't take any concentration for me.

What is a cheif resident?