Quitting

[chman]

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Was enjoying this thread until all the "kids these days" crap.

It turned to crap before that. Every freakin thread around here turns in to some argument. I'm about done with it, personally.

 

[apumic]

It turned to crap before that. Every freakin thread around here turns in to some argument. I'm about done with it, personally.

IMO, Pre-Allo is more toxic than an ED full of crusty old ED docs and nurses in downtown LA.

 

[addo]

Wow. Good luck in medicine.

I suspect you'll find it's not much better in healthcare...and no, being a physician doesn't make "them" treat you any better.

Further, you stated that your "integrity is priceless" yet integrity is:



The first definition is that which is most common and most applicable here. By taking this job AND by not immediately notifying your supervisor of intent to leave when or prior to the schedule coming out for that time period, you gave your word that you would be there. By breaking your promise to be at work, you effectively violated that moral code, thereby losing your integrity in the process.

apumic, thats a stretch. Youre just making arguments for the sake of making them now. There is never a promise to be at work, just like there is never a promise to not be fired at any given moment. Should the need for a promise arise either way, then you can draw up a contract and be legally binded to show up to work until the last day of the 2 weeks notice is up.

By the way, what kind of jobs have you had?

 

[apumic]

apumic, thats a stretch. Youre just making arguments for the sake of making them now. There is never a promise to be at work, just like there is never a promise to not be fired at any given moment. Should the need for a promise arise either way, then you can draw up a contract and be legally binded to show up to work until the last day of the 2 weeks notice is up.

Why must there be a legal contract to keep your word? That seems to me to simply be an element of common courtesy. If you're not planning on doing something, you give people plenty of heads up so that they can work around the inconvenience. It simply serves you both better.

By the way, what kind of jobs have you had?

Post-college: A few years in healthcare (direct pt care, case management, training, clinical research); University lecturer/faculty (PT)
During college: Several manager/supervisor positions (IT, aquatics, student life); lead research asst; TA
Pre-college: Aquatics (lifeguard, LG mgr, LG instructor, swim instructor); IT; union musician (paid/professional)

 

[Frazier]

I quit and managed to shut down a restaurant because of a rodent infestation. Apparently, it was their third strike so they were done for good. I was on the newspaper so it was pretty cool.

You're lucky the owner didn't have you 'taken care of'. 😎

 

[eli20]

Haha well Ive come to find that SDN is so neurotic that everyone just posts to rationalize their own choices/life while simultaneously denigrating anything foreign to their experience.

I hope that it's not indicative of the average med student because I'd like to Be able to stand my classmates.

 

[apumic]

Haha well Ive come to find that SDN is so neurotic that everyone just posts to rationalize their own choices/life while simultaneously denigrating anything foreign to their experience.

I hope that it's not indicative of the average med student because I'd like to Be able to stand my classmates.

I have a feeling most people here are a lot for frank and such than they are in real life. And I at least like to believe most here are quite a bit more socially skilled than this forum sometimes shows. My guess would be that the social environment here likely creates unnecessarily intense debates between people. My suspicion is that our actual med school student bodies will be much more enjoyable than this place can be at times (or so I sure hope).

 

[mauberley]

Haha well Ive come to find that SDN is so neurotic that everyone just posts to rationalize their own choices/life while simultaneously denigrating anything foreign to their experience.

I hope that it's not indicative of the average med student because I'd like to Be able to stand my classmates.

In my (perhaps limited) experience, SDN is no worse than the rest of the Internet http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19/ (warning, "salty" language). So, cheer up.

 

[addo]

Post-college: A few years in healthcare (direct pt care, case management, training, clinical research); University lecturer/faculty (PT)
During college: Several manager/supervisor positions (IT, aquatics, student life); lead research asst; TA
Pre-college: Aquatics (lifeguard, LG mgr, LG instructor, swim instructor); IT; union musician (paid/professional)

Youve had several managerial experiences, so I guess I see where you are coming from. So youre more professional and courteous than I am, o well.

Anyway, how about getting fired stories.

I got this other waiter job when I was 18 at a different restaurant. I actually really did enjoy my working experience there, except for the fact that the big boss manager really grew to dislike me. One day I was late by 5 mins and he fired me on the spot. He usually sent people home for that, so he told me to go home and not come back. A couple of weeks later he gets a DWI, goes to jail, the owners find out he was taking money from the restaurant and he himself gets fired for good. Then I was rehired at the same place a couple of weeks later. When I left that place, I did have the courtesy of giving plenty of heads up. The place has slowed down since then so I couldnt get that job back.

 

[chman]

In my (perhaps limited) experience, SDN is no worse than the rest of the Internet (warning, "salty" language). So, cheer up.

HaHa, that's awesome.

 

[apumic]

Youve had several managerial experiences, so I guess I see where you are coming from. So youre more professional and courteous than I am, o well.

I definitely see your side as well. At the same time, I've had employees to things like that and it not only hurts my team but it makes it impossible for me give them a good reference or help them later, which is something I really enjoy doing. (I tend to be a developer/maximizer of talent, so I dislike seeing someone waste it by doing things that prevent others from helping them.)

Anyway, how about getting fired stories.

I got this other waiter job when I was 18 at a different restaurant. I actually really did enjoy my working experience there, except for the fact that the big boss manager really grew to dislike me. One day I was late by 5 mins and he fired me on the spot. He usually sent people home for that, so he told me to go home and not come back. A couple of weeks later he gets a DWI, goes to jail, the owners find out he was taking money from the restaurant and he himself gets fired for good. Then I was rehired at the same place a couple of weeks later. When I left that place, I did have the courtesy of giving plenty of heads up. The place has slowed down since then so I couldnt get that job back.

Haha, that's funny.


I didn't exactly get "fired" from a previous job, but at the first place I lifeguarded, the lower of the two executive administrators didn't like me (the higher did). I apparently p*ssed him off a few times (made a joke about blowing an airhorn in someone's direction or something and probably a few other such jokes he didn't find funny). So eventually I ended up working directly under him as a head guard. I did well according to all of my managers and I had a personal recommendation from his former boss (with whom I had taught a lifeguarding course) but he decided to put some admittedly hot 15-year-old in as asst mgr (req't: must be 18 to be an asst mgr for liability reasons...don't ask me how that worked) and a guy that ended up getting caught cheating on one of the major course exams req'd to be a mgr (and got fired a month into his time as a mgr) instead of me when we were placed at an outdoor pool.

I asked about it, wondering how that came to be. I wasn't really given an answer other than, "You were a good candidate, but **** wanted to hire ******* and ******." We all know Mr. Bossman was doing that 15 y/o on the weekends.... I didn't get asked to return the next year. They didn't exactly "fire" me; they just never sent me a "letter of intent" to return!

 

[addo]

I asked about it, wondering how that came to be. I wasn't really given an answer other than, "You were a good candidate, but **** wanted to hire ******* and ******." We all know Mr. Bossman was doing that 15 y/o on the weekends.... I didn't get asked to return the next year. They didn't exactly "fire" me; they just never sent me a "letter of intent" to return!

Sounds like the stuff going on with the lifeguard team at a private tennis club that I used to work at.

 

[SOcash]

I've left a couple of menial jobs for various reasons, and my method for leaving them has always been to just stop showing up and taking calls from them. I don't really do manual labor, and I certainly wouldn't consider a job I held while a student to represent any sort of binding arrangement.

As long as the employer isn't needed as a reference (none of the ones I abandoned were) and the issue won't come up again, I personally don't have a problem with quitting without notice. I've never lost a job or had a complaint about my work from an employer though.