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Life goal as a future equine vet: show up within an hour of my appointment times. Difficulty level, apparently: impossible.
I promise your vet doesn’t want to be running over an hour behind either.
I promise the goal is to be on time lol.
Once you have an ambulatory rotation (unless OP already has this experience, in which case idk why they'd rag on a vet for being late to begin with), you realize how unprepared the clients are for these appointments. Yeah we're an hour behind because the first three clients didn't even have their horses (or insert other large/food animal species here) out of the pasture by the time we rolled up.

Honestly same applies for in-clinic stuff too though. 830 appt shows up at 9, imo turning a trailered horse away is not the same as turning a late dog/cat appt away. That '830' is here for a lameness workup, which take a while on their own, but oh btw can you look at this, this, this, and this? Oh and the horse is a dick so now you have to wait on a little sedation to do anything.

That's what I remember from my equine rotations at school, anyways.
 
Update: so far an ekg looked good, and they said she is dehydrated …so at least no active heart attack. So hopefully will be alright but hopefully there are more answers later

Mom just called that my sister is going to the hospital for heart attack symptoms. Fingers crossed she will be alright
 
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Once you have an ambulatory rotation (unless OP already has this experience, in which case idk why they'd rag on a vet for being late to begin with), you realize how unprepared the clients are for these appointments. Yeah we're an hour behind because the first three clients didn't even have their horses (or insert other large/food animal species here) out of the pasture by the time we rolled up.

Honestly same applies for in-clinic stuff too though. 830 appt shows up at 9, imo turning a trailered horse away is not the same as turning a late dog/cat appt away. That '830' is here for a lameness workup, which take a while on their own, but oh btw can you look at this, this, this, and this? Oh and the horse is a dick so now you have to wait on a little sedation to do anything.

That's what I remember from my equine rotations at school, anyways.
Lol yes how could I forget the clients. Ours are trained at this point to have the horse inside and well groomed, have a rider available if needed, clean wash stall to work out of, etc. We have a few (well loved) clients that we add 30 minutes to the appointment for yapping. Or like, we’ve added time bc the barn isn’t the easiest to get gear in and out of, etc. and that’s all stuff that the techs know that like a front desk wouldn’t when scheduling appointments.
 
I apologise for the very intense personal rant. I've been vegetarian for several years, but in the last few months my partner convinced me to start eating meat again because of health issues. The guilt over the environmental destruction / impact is so bad that last night I genuinely felt like dying. It's impossible to try and discuss this topic with anyone in my life IRL, because they all eat meat, and get offended when I mention why this makes me anxious as they see it as me personally attacking them for eating meat. Which is not the case. I think **I'm** hypocritical for being a hardcore conservationist and eating meat, but the average person who isn't aware of the scale of trawlers and the Amazonian destruction, or who needs meat in their diet, is doing nothing wrong by feeding themselves what they need to survive. We are omnivores after all. The guilt of contributing to factory farming and the ocean destruction is really just killing me.
 
I apologise for the very intense personal rant.

One, don't apologize when you don't have something to apologize for. Ranting in a rant page is not such a thing.

I feel a lot of existential dread over certain things like this especially now that I have a child. Single use plastics, driving short distances (like to our local park), nuclear annihilation, etc. Even the impending death of some old relatives who did not take care of themselves.

This was an actual problem for my personal mental/emotional health, and was affecting my marriage.

What helped was differentiating between what I could feasibly do and what I could feasibly control. I cannot control death and needed to realize I was going through anticipatory grief. I can feasibly walk to my local park and cut down on single use plastics. I cannot feasibly end wars.

It literally came down to me being semi-nihilist and saying, "There's nothing more I can do about this." Like I can't afford to have a car payment; so I cannot afford an electric car (which in of itself has its own limitations).

There is only so much each person can do as far as impact goes that we cannot do everything that would be ideal. And so I think at this point, you need to 1) talk to a professional about coping mechanism because all these problems will still be problems after you and I die and you cannot simply ride it out and 2) realize you aren't being a hypocrite. If you have to have a meat inclusive diet to health a healthy life, then that's what you gotta do. It's not your fault. You can research local meat resources through the butcher, such as purchasing a whole animal that they butcher for you and you keep all the meat in a freezer. Pricy up front, but may be the alternative you are looking for
 
What helped was differentiating between what I could feasibly do and what I could feasibly control.

There is only so much each person can do as far as impact goes that we cannot do everything that would be ideal.
These two points are where I'm at with this. Society/the economy still makes 'green' swaps very difficult for the average consumer. They are typically more expensive and at times, less functional, than their non-green counterparts. I do think most people would reach for the fully biodegradable/fully recycled content/whatever product if it wasn't several dollars more for less product that often didn't work as well. We'd all be walking and biking if sidewalks were everywhere and we lived in a country where that was a thing. Or if mass transit was better, more people would use that.

The meat eating is a toughy though, because there is another layer of ethical consideration there if you consider the animals themselves. People in first world countries drastically overconsume meat anyways (guilty) which is an easy place to start - mind your portions and frequency. Shop local/from the farmer when you can (but again, this is usually not cost effective). Make friends with a Midwest hunter because we are up to our ears in deer over here.

So yeah, make swaps where you can. Choose a fuel efficient or hybrid car, electric if you can (but again, also consider what type of energy is powering your local community!). If/when you can upgrade appliances, choose efficient ones. Change to LED light bulbs. Use an electric blanket instead of turning up your thermostat (at least someone once told me this was more efficient). Work on your overconsumption if that's a problem for you, it sure is for me. etc etc.
 
I promise your vet doesn’t want to be running over an hour behind either.
Oh I'm totally understanding of how this happens,
Once you have an ambulatory rotation (unless OP already has this experience, in which case idk why they'd rag on a vet for being late to begin with), you realize how unprepared the clients are for these appointments. Yeah we're an hour behind because the first three clients didn't even have their horses (or insert other large/food animal species here) out of the pasture by the time we rolled up.

Honestly same applies for in-clinic stuff too though. 830 appt shows up at 9, imo turning a trailered horse away is not the same as turning a late dog/cat appt away. That '830' is here for a lameness workup, which take a while on their own, but oh btw can you look at this, this, this, and this? Oh and the horse is a dick so now you have to wait on a little sedation to do anything.

That's what I remember from my equine rotations at school, anyways.
I already have a ton of experience in equine ambulatory. I'm not tagging on the vet, I know how horse people are. Every single horse person I've dealt with has been chronically late and impossible to deal with, and I have all the sympathy for the vet.
My rant (because this is a rant thread) is that I HATE being late and I LOVE equine ambulatory and I know those two things will constantly be at odds throughout my career. That's why it's an impossible goal. I was not complaining about a particular vet, i was ranting about the structure of equine ambulatory-- it's impossible to be on time, which is something very important to me.
Geez y'all.
 
I thought there'd be enough equine people on here to understand where I'm coming from but I guess I'll refrain from ranting on the rant thread.
 
I apologise for the very intense personal rant. I've been vegetarian for several years, but in the last few months my partner convinced me to start eating meat again because of health issues. The guilt over the environmental destruction / impact is so bad that last night I genuinely felt like dying. It's impossible to try and discuss this topic with anyone in my life IRL, because they all eat meat, and get offended when I mention why this makes me anxious as they see it as me personally attacking them for eating meat. Which is not the case. I think **I'm** hypocritical for being a hardcore conservationist and eating meat, but the average person who isn't aware of the scale of trawlers and the Amazonian destruction, or who needs meat in their diet, is doing nothing wrong by feeding themselves what they need to survive. We are omnivores after all. The guilt of contributing to factory farming and the ocean destruction is really just killing me.
i refused to eat pork and beef products for about 3-4 years. i still ate poultry and fish products, because of my health conditions my doctors begged me not to go full vegetarian. well eventually i had to re-introduce beef into my diet (im still not a big fan of pork..like at all), because my bloodwork was all sorts of funky.

i just wanted to share that i feel the same way you do and you are not alone <3
 
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I thought there'd be enough equine people on here to understand where I'm coming from but I guess I'll refrain from ranting on the rant thread.
Said with kindness: you don't need to get passive aggressive like this, we know it's a rant thread and you were ranting, but generally we are going to stand up for our colleagues. Perhaps we misinterpreted what you mean with your original post given the lack of detail (not that you are required to provide it!), if you were not ranting about your vet specifically and moreso that equine vets run behind in general. Which is still something we are going to stand up for our colleagues about :shrug:
 
Said with kindness: you don't need to get passive aggressive like this, we know it's a rant thread and you were ranting, but generally we are going to stand up for our colleagues. Perhaps we misinterpreted what you mean with your original post given the lack of detail (not that you are required to provide it!), if you were not ranting about your vet specifically and moreso that equine vets run behind in general. Which is still something we are going to stand up for our colleagues about :shrug:
There is no need to get passive aggressive except that you automatically assumed Ill intent when I am very understanding of everything equine vets go through.
I am having the most stressful week of my life and wanted to rant about one of the things I am stressed about and instead had people jump down my throat. Now I am crying when I am supposed to be at work because I was already about to cry.
 
I've needed to get off SDN for a while and I'll take this as my sign.
dont let this deter you from the platform. when tensions and stress is high, it is so easy to read things with an incorrect tone. everyone is just here to help.

i hope you feel better, but a break is never a bad idea! hell i’ve even deleted my SDN account before, but brought it back bc i just like the people on here so much! you can make great long lasting connections on here, and i feel like we always encourage healthy and civil discourse and learning opportunities!
 
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There is no need to get passive aggressive except that you automatically assumed Ill intent when I am very understanding of everything equine vets go through.
I am having the most stressful week of my life and wanted to rant about one of the things I am stressed about and instead had people jump down my throat. Now I am crying when I am supposed to be at work because I was already about to cry.
I'm going to speak for everyone that said something and assure you we were not trying to jump down your throat. I agree that it is the internet and things are misinterpreted all the time. We don't want you to go and definitely don't want you to cry! But if you feel a break is what you need then by all means, take it. I took a 2-3 year hiatus myself at one point.
 
Thank you so much @battie, @pp9, and @vampyrica! It makes me feel so much less alone to hear your experiences with the same thing. It helps so much to be reminded we can only do what we can do and to try not to let the full weight of the world's problems consume me. Inspired by this I just signed up to volunteer for MARS (Marine Animal Response Society) helping with sea turtle and whale strandings, I feel like it's something I can genuinely do to make an impact.
 
Oh I'm totally understanding of how this happens,

I already have a ton of experience in equine ambulatory. I'm not tagging on the vet, I know how horse people are. Every single horse person I've dealt with has been chronically late and impossible to deal with, and I have all the sympathy for the vet.
My rant (because this is a rant thread) is that I HATE being late and I LOVE equine ambulatory and I know those two things will constantly be at odds throughout my career. That's why it's an impossible goal. I was not complaining about a particular vet, i was ranting about the structure of equine ambulatory-- it's impossible to be on time, which is something very important to me.
Geez y'all.
Hey, I’m so sorry if I’ve contributed to your frustrations on this thread - that was not my intention at all. The point I was trying to make with my semi-coherent ramblings last night was that yes, it is never 100% possible to be on time to every single appointment - but when you become a practitioner there are things that can be done on the back-end to get pretty darn close to perfect, you just need to find a practice that has the same priorities as you. If you’d like to chat more about the logistics of equine ambo work or externships/internships/etc or to just scream into the void my PMs are open
 
I squeezed in an appointment with his optho today (YESSSSSSS) to do the bloodwork and have them check out his eye with the new developments. I’m just hoping I can get some relief on what to do to solve the issues and relieve his pain.

lol sorry y’all if that was a bad post I just needed to rant on it and was stressed tf out (also this semester schedule with scheduling anything else has been a nightmare). !!
 
I squeezed in an appointment with his optho today (YESSSSSSS) to do the bloodwork and have them check out his eye with the new developments. I’m just hoping I can get some relief on what to do to solve the issues and relieve his pain.

lol sorry y’all if that was a bad post I just needed to rant on it and was stressed tf out (also this semester schedule with scheduling anything else has been a nightmare). !!
sorry, totally missed that you had seen an ophtho already but a recheck is definitely in order! hopefully you don't need to resort to an enuc
 
More somewhat-unbelievable drama over on r/prevet. Some applicants complaining about interviews being in-person (and of course the 'no one told me' excuse) and then one pre-vet going so far to say that it's "bull****" and arguing against advice on being mindful with how you speak about programs online. Well now the thread is locked and modmail has been sent lol

I can be forgiving of someone saying something out of turn if they correct themselves, but once they start arguing I get fed up. The immaturity is astounding
 
More somewhat-unbelievable drama over on r/prevet. Some applicants complaining about interviews being in-person (and of course the 'no one told me' excuse) and then one pre-vet going so far to say that it's "bull****" and arguing against advice on being mindful with how you speak about programs online. Well now the thread is locked and modmail has been sent lol

I can be forgiving of someone saying something out of turn if they correct themselves, but once they start arguing I get fed up. The immaturity is astounding
They never would have survived pre-covid. Even DURING Covid, I took into consideration if interviews might get switched back to in person at any point and where I could feasibly travel if needed.

I feel like a boomer but how did going through the trauma of a pandemic make you MORE entitled?
 
Also did everyone forget that nothing ever used to be online until the pandemic? We never had asynchronous courses or as many WFH jobs as we do now if it weren't for the pandemic. Did we forget that being in-person to pretty much everything was standard and expected 6 years ago???
 
They never would have survived pre-covid. Even DURING Covid, I took into consideration if interviews might get switched back to in person at any point and where I could feasibly travel if needed.

I feel like a boomer but how did going through the trauma of a pandemic make you MORE entitled?
Lmao jinx. Literally what I was just typing!
 
one pre-vet going so far to say that it's "bull****" and arguing against advice on being mindful with how you speak about programs online.
Also the comment history of this person tells me they have no idea what they're getting into.

18 credits? Vet school is more than 18 credits per semester?

*cackles in 30.5 credits of upper division medicine courses this semester alone*
On Fire GIF
 
Also the comment history of this person tells me they have no idea what they're getting into.

18 credits? Vet school is more than 18 credits per semester?

*cackles in 30.5 credits of upper division medicine courses this semester alone*
On Fire GIF
They are a freshman in college lol. So no clue what they're in for as 1. a science major of some sort and 2. a potential future vet student
 
More somewhat-unbelievable drama over on r/prevet. Some applicants complaining about interviews being in-person (and of course the 'no one told me' excuse) and then one pre-vet going so far to say that it's "bull****" and arguing against advice on being mindful with how you speak about programs online. Well now the thread is locked and modmail has been sent lol

I can be forgiving of someone saying something out of turn if they correct themselves, but once they start arguing I get fed up. The immaturity is astounding
Hm, I’m pretty sure this commenter was the same one complaining about how course load shouldn’t be taken into consideration for their VMCAS applications.
 
Hm, I’m pretty sure this commenter was the same one complaining about how course load shouldn’t be taken into consideration for their VMCAS applications.
Yup I saw that when I went through their comment history lol. Enjoy your 13 credit hours now because if you get into vet school you're in for one hell of a ride

It's a lot of strong opinions about how admissions should be ran for someone in their freshman year of college
 
Yup I saw that when I went through their comment history lol. Enjoy your 13 credit hours now because if you get into vet school you're in for one hell of a ride

It's a lot of strong opinions about how admissions should be ran for someone in their freshman year of college
To be fair, I didn’t even know course load was a thing schools looked at it. I’m firmly in the camp of: preserve your GPA, even if that means barely making 12 credit hours a semester.
 
It's a lot of strong opinions about how admissions should be ran for someone in their freshman year of college
Eh, I know I was an ignorant and naive idiot as a baby freshmen. Hopefully, they’ll mature and when it comes time for them to apply, they’ll know to check if their schools hold in-person or online interviews. But I swear to god, if they come back online in a couple years complaining about this EXACT same issue…
 
They are a freshman in college lol. So no clue what they're in for as 1. a science major of some sort and 2. a potential future vet student
Oh to be young and invincible and think the world is just. I miss it sometimes. Hopefully they continue to grow; I know I did A LOT of growing the three years after undergrad and have continued to do so the last few years of vet school.
 
More somewhat-unbelievable drama over on r/prevet. Some applicants complaining about interviews being in-person (and of course the 'no one told me' excuse) and then one pre-vet going so far to say that it's "bull****" and arguing against advice on being mindful with how you speak about programs online. Well now the thread is locked and modmail has been sent lol

I can be forgiving of someone saying something out of turn if they correct themselves, but once they start arguing I get fed up. The immaturity is astounding
im bewildered by this thread! as an applicant this cycle i really enjoyed my in person interviews. i feel like they're your best bet at getting a feel for the people at the school, program, and meeting other applicants! sure traveling can be costly, but you'll have to travel there anyways if you get in??? it makes no sense to me why anyone would be upset about having to go in person to an interview when vet school is an IN PERSON thing? and also going in person i feel like lets you better connect with your interviewers
 
Oh to be young and invincible and think the world is just. I miss it sometimes. Hopefully they continue to grow; I know I did A LOT of growing the three years after undergrad and have continued to do so the last few years of vet school.
Yea same. Just makes my life harder as a reddit mod lol but I'm sure I made other people feel that way on the internet too lol
 
im bewildered by this thread! as an applicant this cycle i really enjoyed my in person interviews. i feel like they're your best bet at getting a feel for the people at the school, program, and meeting other applicants! sure traveling can be costly, but you'll have to travel there anyways if you get in??? it makes no sense to me why anyone would be upset about having to go in person to an interview when vet school is an IN PERSON thing? and also going in person i feel like lets you better connect with your interviewers
It’s probably the extra expense of going to the school and possibly not getting in. I understand not applying to schools that do in-person interviews-I was the same-but to start low-key insulting the school over it is stepping over the line.
 
as an applicant this cycle i really enjoyed my in person interviews. i feel like they're your best bet at getting a feel for the people at the school, program, and meeting other applicants! sure traveling can be costly, but you'll have to travel there anyways if you get in???
i wished more of my interviews had an in person option! i did 4 interviews last cycle and only one was in person - and that one was uc dublin, so it wasn’t even at a campus i just went to nyc. i def would’ve traveled to some of the schools at the top of my list for an interview to get a better sense of the campus and surrounding area
 
It’s probably the extra expense of going to the school and possibly not getting in. I understand not applying to schools that do in-person interviews-I was the same-but to start low-key insulting the school over it is stepping over the line.
I also picked where I applied based off travel costs bc I only had maybe $5k to my name at the time of applying lol. So my money was precious
 
i’m lmao at the “i hope they read my comment” post. right because a school will see your comment and go “oh no!! onlineprevetuser123456789 cant come to in person interviews!! we gotta change it ASAP!!!!” 🤡

As if the response won't to black list someone if they know who you are 🙄
 
i’m lmao at the “i hope they read my comment” post. right because a school will see your comment and go “oh no!! onlineprevetuser123456789 cant come to in person interviews!! we gotta change it ASAP!!!!” 🤡
As if schools don't have 2000 more applicants that would gladly take an interview spot if given the chance. Do these people not realize how competitive it is? You have like 10% chance of getting in. You apply smart and you go when you are called haha
 
watching the applicant pool change in real time is wild. i wonder how the elder millenials felt watching the first batch of gen Z-ers emerge onto the forums with our insane takes
I mean I am not an elder millennial but I am definitely squarely elderly according to my child (I am 31) one foot in the grave 😂😂
But it's weird to think that a lot of people applying were born when I was in almost middle school.
 
watching the applicant pool change in real time is wild. i wonder how the elder millenials felt watching the first batch of gen Z-ers emerge onto the forums with our insane takes
Not quite an elder millennial (middle aged? I'm a '92 baby) but it has been interesting from my perspective. Everything from talking to prevets in this age range in person/on social media, having them as keeper interns or veterinary externs, etc has been a huge trip in a mostly bad way. Granted, that's one person's perspective...and I hate the whole age generalization thing because millennials have been **** upon for years. But as I've said before, I'm always surprised at the sheer entitlement, lack of personal responsibility, and lack of drive that I've been seeing.
im an 02 baby hehe
How am I ten years old than you 💀
and now I'm just mad and sad lol

ETA: Also just wanted to add that back in the day, many people had to choose which schools they would interview at, as a couple of schools would hold in-person interviews on the same day. Or maybe even within 24 hours of each other. So you either made a choice and declined one interview, or flew across the country to your next interview ASAP and hoped your travel plans didn't get messed up. It was an expensive time. I did two OOS interviews and those probably ran me $1000ish total? Between two hotels, one flight, meals and whatnot. Some applicants are interviewing at 3-5+ schools.

im bewildered by this thread! as an applicant this cycle i really enjoyed my in person interviews. i feel like they're your best bet at getting a feel for the people at the school, program, and meeting other applicants! sure traveling can be costly, but you'll have to travel there anyways if you get in??? it makes no sense to me why anyone would be upset about having to go in person to an interview when vet school is an IN PERSON thing? and also going in person i feel like lets you better connect with your interviewers
I think this is the most important part about in person interviews. Virtual interviews are obviously much more accessible and don't require applicants to spend $100s/$1000s on travel and hotel, but then we get all the questions like 'Can someone tell me what this school's building is like?' or whatever.
 
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Not quite an elder millennial (middle aged? I'm a '92 baby) but it has been interesting from my perspective. Everything from talking to prevets in this age range in person/on social media, having them as keeper interns or veterinary externs, etc has been a huge trip in a mostly bad way. Granted, that's one person's perspective...and I hate the whole age generalization thing because millennials have been **** upon for years. But as I've said before, I'm always surprised at the sheer entitlement, lack of personal responsibility, and lack of drive that I've been seeing.
if you think my generation is bad, we are all in for a wave of shock when gen alpha steps into the ring. this isn’t even a matter of how your family brings you up anymore. turns out, it was that damn phone 😞😞

i told myself if i ever have kids, no phones until high school and idc if you’re the only one without one— you’ll get a flip phone for emergencies.

and now I'm just mad and sad lol
you and battie were only ten when i was born, that’s nothinggg!
 
I am too young for a mid-life crisis, but I have been questioning my life choices and realizing it may be getting late to make different ones. I like my job for the most part even though February is always the worst month every single year. The kids are WILD and staff are crabby. I have not had a February go by where I have not felt tempted to quit teaching. I like my career but money is always going to be tight.

I am still hoping to buy my own house eventually, but I will realistically only be able to afford a 2-bedroom and may need to be one and done on kids due to lack of space. I always considered one and done, but I thought I would have spouse instead of doing it on my own. It is realistically getting too late to find a spouse and have biological children with a partner, even if I found the right one tomorrow (doubtful). I had to go see a lawyer about my brother this week and the lawyer got in my head and made me feel HORRIBLE about living with my mom in my 30s. Until then, I felt okay about it, but now I worry everyone was just afraid to tell me that was weird.
 
I had to go see a lawyer about my brother this week and the lawyer got in my head and made me feel HORRIBLE about living with my mom in my 30s. Until then, I felt okay about it, but now I worry everyone was just afraid to tell me that was weird.
Idk, a lot of people I know are doing it right now. Whether it's 'weird' or not depends on the circumstances imo.
 
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