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[battie]

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really don't get the point of asking for advice if you are really just looking for validation

Because everyone is taught that seeking validation is vain, but also then not taught how to properly accept advice that tells you you're wrong. So validation is sought by asking questions framed in a way where the answer would validate one's self.

However, then people don't expect other people to be honest or blunt. And then take that honesty as a personal attack

 

[JaynaAli]

Vet student roommates from different years would be my recommendation if possible. Roommates from your class can work out great, but if things go sour there’s no escaping those people at home or in class. Having people in different years allows you to pick up tips, tricks, and advice and also means yall might be on different enough schedules that it makes arranging pet care a little more easier if you need someone to feed your dog one night or let them out at lunch or something.

 

[vampyrica]

i have literally listened to "meet me halfway" the whole week wow i was rlly living my best life when it came out

may i interest you in “dont phunk with my heart”?

 

[vampyrica]

ohhhh wait hehe i get it now.

HEHEHEHE

 

[battie]

any tips on preference for living alone vs w roommates as an incoming 1st year??

I lived with a wide variety of people across vet school. My best time was living in a 6 person house where there was me, a law student, a teacher, a psych PhD, and then an ag management major. No personal conflict from class carried over at all.

I did live with one vet student a year or two under me after the ag guy moved out. But overall, I couldn't imagine living with another vet student.

 

[vampyrica]

what’s ragebaiting you?

i will go first, i just saw a tik tok of someone saying there’s not enough of a market for specialties in vet med. .. i .. what. i would have sure liked that to be the case on some of the days i got stuck working 15 hour shifts in surgery from being overbooked.

oh lord 💀

 

[stinkyfreddy]

may i interest you in “dont phunk with my heart”?

what happened to them??? like wow so underrated

 

[fauna]

any tips on preference for living alone vs w roommates as an incoming 1st year??

hi! i lived alone my first semester because i was a latecomer for getting off the waitlist and the cost of living where i am is a lot lower than i expected. i didn’t want to rush into a roommate situation bc i had a rough experience in undergrad and i wanted to make sure we were on the same page about stuff— especially pets. for me, i was able to decide that spending extra on rent the first 4 months was worth it to be able to find someone i clicked with. i found someone pretty quickly because she was dying to get out of the dorms. i can’t say my situation would work for everybody and i know i took a bit of a risk in hoping i would find someone for spring semester. but for me, i am glad i took my time. if you are starting now, you have way more time than i did to get to know people online and trying to reduce your spending across these four years is a huge deal!

 

[stinkyfreddy]

well. if anyone here is incoming at LSU hmu! thank you for your advice!!!

 

[fauna]

well. if anyone here is incoming at LSU hmu! thank you for your advice!!!

see if your cohort has made a facebook group! then you can stalk potential roommates social media for a vibe check

 

[katiemcat]

well. if anyone here is incoming at LSU hmu! thank you for your advice!!!

Congratulations!!

 

[battie]

Starting ER overnights tomorrow. 6pm-6am. How do I stay awake. Tips for survival please.

I power the first day cause I can never sleep well the first day. Then i try to stay up the whole shift (grown up docs can sleep though.....) so I sleep the next day. Then wake up whenever and go to my shift. That night, I do actively go for a nap if I can. Then the last night I go to the doc room as early as possible

 

[katiemcat]

I power the first day cause I can never sleep well the first day. Then i try to stay up the whole shift (grown up docs can sleep though.....) so I sleep the next day. Then wake up whenever and go to my shift. That night, I do actively go for a nap if I can. Then the last night I go to the doc room as early as possible

Thank you!!! I don’t think I’ve stayed up all night since early undergrad so I’m scared lol. I’m a big sleeper.

 

[fauna]

i like to let the sleepiness turn into delirium and then i just run off of that. maybe thats a bit ill advised for doctor-y stuff though.

 

[battie]

Thank you!!! I don’t think I’ve stayed up all night since early undergrad so I’m scared lol. I’m a big sleeper.

If I could take a mild pay cut to never ever do an overnight ever, I absolutely would. So I totes get it.

What's your actual two week schedule?

 

[katiemcat]

If I could take a mild pay cut to never ever do an overnight ever, I absolutely would. So I totes get it.

What's your actual two week schedule?

I was 6am-6pm and 10am-10pm this week

Starting tomorrow I’m 6pm-6am and 2pm-2am until Saturday.

Then I’m off to the magic land of cardiology before my created maternity leave of vacation blocks.

 

[battie]

Starting tomorrow I’m 6pm-6am and 2pm-2am until Saturday

That 2-2 isn't too bad. We used to have that and I worked it while pregnant. Depending on the order 6-6 for 2-3 days, rest day, then 2-2 for 2-3 days, the switch won't be too bad. That would almost be better than vice versa

 

[JaynaAli]

For me on overnights, staying busy was key. If you stop moving and “let” yourself get sleepy it’s hard to fight it off, but if I kept moving and stayed busy it was easier to truck along.

 

[katiemcat]

That 2-2 isn't too bad. We used to have that and I worked it while pregnant. Depending on the order 6-6 for 2-3 days, rest day, then 2-2 for 2-3 days, the switch won't be too bad. That would almost be better than vice versa

I’m 6-6 M T off Wednesday (OB appointment) then 2-2 Th F Sat

For me on overnights, staying busy was key. If you stop moving and “let” yourself get sleepy it’s hard to fight it off, but if I kept moving and stayed busy it was easier to truck along.

Luckily I cannot sit still so noted!

i like to let the sleepiness turn into delirium and then i just run off of that. maybe thats a bit ill advised for doctor-y stuff though.

I already got complimented on the rotation so I feel like I’m comfortably passing and maybe I’ve earned being delirious

 

[SkiOtter]

For me on overnights, staying busy was key. If you stop moving and “let” yourself get sleepy it’s hard to fight it off, but if I kept moving and stayed busy it was easier to truck along.

Yeah, this is how I was for overnight large animal walkby shifts (most of my class didn’t have overnight ER shifts because **** got changed around covid and then didn’t change back until the very end of my clinical year iirc and I was already done with all of my ER blocks). Once I stopped doing stuff I would get so so sleepy and it was r o u g h

 

[supershorty]

Most of my rotating internship was me working overnights. What I usually did was be up for a full 24 hours for my first night because I couldn't get myself to sleep prior to that shift, and then I would sleep as much as I could manage with our bedroom blacked out (I would get home between 8 and 9, and I'd usually be asleep until 3:30 or 4). Then I'd get up and have my usual morning drink and go do some physical activity - for me, that meant I'd go do an hour or two of aerial training before going to work - and then I tried to sit as little as possible at work. When you're busy, it's easier.

 

[supershorty]

@katiemcat make sure you do what you need to take care of your mental health. Overnights can really mess you up after a while. Take care of yourself.

That's why I aggressively forced aerial stuff into my schedule when I was on overnights, even though I was so exhausted I didn't really want to. That's my thing that helps my mental health and I needed to make it happen.

 

[cdo96]

Starting ER overnights tomorrow. 6pm-6am. How do I stay awake. Tips for survival please.

Second the mental health comment, my darkest points were when I was solely on overnights for a month (no pun intended)

Other than that, it’s caffeine if you can, if not, some sort of beverage. I kept myself moving, did tons of squats and jumping jacks to wake myself up, lots of snacks. If I felt myself getting too sleepy, I would do a lap of the hospital if able to visually check in on the patients. Found a few dead & dying during those laps, which always felt justified.

Transitioning from day to night and vice versa is a pain, usually I recommend going to do something on the night to day transition (going shopping, going to a park, something) because otherwise you will go home, sit on the couch, tell yourself that you’re not going to fall asleep —> immediately fall asleep and be in a worse position 😂. I would always treat myself to a fun breakfast on my transition days.

But yeah no I did a residency so I wouldn’t be put on only overnights, I spent a quarter of the last 4 years on overnights, never again.

 

[soupshark]

any tips on preference for living alone vs w roommates as an incoming 1st year??

I prefer living alone though it can get pretty difficult at times. I find myself wishing I had someone to help me pretty often but I also know that I probably won't get what I'm looking for in a roommate since you never know what someone will be like until you live with them. I think maybe 50% of my class live with roommates and most of those are our other classmates. The other 50% live alone or have families and houses.

It was invaluable to me first year especially to come home to my safe, quiet space after long days of classes. However, the biggest factor in my opinion is cost, since living alone is expensive even in a low COL area like where I'm at. I think it's worth it for me to pay to live alone personally and I get rent help from my parents, so I probably won't change it. But if you don't mind the general risks associated with rooming with people you don't know very well yet and you want to save a few hundred dollars a month, having roommates is probably a good option for you.

 

[vampyrica]

I prefer living alone though it can get pretty difficult at times.

i second soup. i currently live alone and have no interest in roommates other than my partner. i had an o-kay experience living with a roommate in undergrad but there were tensions once in a while, we don’t talk anymore despite us being friends for 4+ years. then when i moved in with my partner for my job, he had 2 male roommates.

…i hated living with three dudes. kitchen was always filthy, always random girls leaving our apartment at literally any point in time. rent was always late from them.

granted these are just two experiences but i’m not the kind of person that enjoys feeling confined in my own home or feeling like i need to walk on eggshells in what is supposed to be my safe space. so for me, living alone and paying the extra in rent is worth it. i love living with my dog, i love living away from all the undergrad students, i love having my own little routine dependent on only me, myself and i. and i love not finding random people in my apartment! 🤩🤩

 

[thenontraveler]

I prefer living alone though it can get pretty difficult at times. I find myself wishing I had someone to help me pretty often but I also know that I probably won't get what I'm looking for in a roommate since you never know what someone will be like until you live with them. I think maybe 50% of my class live with roommates and most of those are our other classmates. The other 50% live alone or have families and houses.

It was invaluable to me first year especially to come home to my safe, quiet space after long days of classes. However, the biggest factor in my opinion is cost, since living alone is expensive even in a low COL area like where I'm at. I think it's worth it for me to pay to live alone personally and I get rent help from my parents, so I probably won't change it. But if you don't mind the general risks associated with rooming with people you don't know very well yet and you want to save a few hundred dollars a month, having roommates is probably a good option for you.

I had a roommate my first year of vet school and now I live alone (not because my roommate was bad! She is incredibly sweet and we are still friends) I just needed some extra space. I will say that having someone there was nice sometimes, but I really like being able to do whatever I want without being judged. So if I want to lie on the floor in the dark eating chocolate with my cat on my stomach, I can do that until I am ready to face the world again. (Hypothetically of course ..... That has definitely never ever been something I have done to get through a hard day ..... Heh) It was a bit more expensive, but overall this allows me to live my life the way I would like and I still spend less than a lot of my fellow classmates just because I didn't choose the fanciest apartment.

 

[SkiOtter]

I prefer living alone though it can get pretty difficult at times. I find myself wishing I had someone to help me pretty often but I also know that I probably won't get what I'm looking for in a roommate since you never know what someone will be like until you live with them. I think maybe 50% of my class live with roommates and most of those are our other classmates. The other 50% live alone or have families and houses.

It was invaluable to me first year especially to come home to my safe, quiet space after long days of classes. However, the biggest factor in my opinion is cost, since living alone is expensive even in a low COL area like where I'm at. I think it's worth it for me to pay to live alone personally and I get rent help from my parents, so I probably won't change it. But if you don't mind the general risks associated with rooming with people you don't know very well yet and you want to save a few hundred dollars a month, having roommates is probably a good option for you.

Same 100%. I preferred living alone because I knew I wouldn’t have to deal with the stress of anyone else’s messes. Yeah, it was lonely at times, but I preferred it.

 

[SkiOtter]

I will say that having someone there was nice sometimes, but I really like being able to do whatever I want without being judged. So if I want to lie on the floor in the dark eating chocolate with my cat on my stomach, I can do that until I am ready to face the world again. (Hypothetically of course ..... That has definitely never ever been something I have done to get through a hard day ..... Heh)

Relatable

 

[CeeGee14]

any tips on preference for living alone vs w roommates as an incoming 1st year??

I live with 2 other roommates, a 3rd year vet school student and a working professional applying to PhD programs. It's been pretty great so far and I think I got super lucky with my roommates.

I specifically wanted to have 1-2 roommates for my 1st year since I was literally moving across the country to attend vet school and I didn't have a support system yet. If I want privacy, I just hole up in my room and if I need any help-taking in a package, wrangling my foster cats, etc-they're always happy to lend a hand and I do the same for them. Having a roommate came in clutch when my bike got a flat tire on the FIRST day of fall semester while my aunt had my car. Vet school roomie was able to give me a ride to campus until I got my flat tire fixed.

The shared cost comes in handy; especially in a high COL area like California. I think the cheapest studio apartment I've seen is like $1,600 and up.

I guess it just really depends on what you want to prioritize. If you want roommates, rooming with fellow vet school students is a good way to go since it's almost guaranteed they're not going to be partying because they're in the study trenches with you.

 

[battie]

If you want roommates, rooming with fellow vet school students is a good way to go since it's almost guaranteed they're not going to be partying because they're in the study trenches with you.

😅

The reputation in the lower classes for @pp9 class was, "Work hard, play hard." Definitely a high volume of partying rumored for 2019, definitely for 2021, and the students of 2024 took it to a whole new level 🤣🤣🤣

 

[SkiOtter]

The shared cost comes in handy; especially in a high COL area like California. I think the cheapest studio apartment I've seen is like $1,600 and up.

O O F
My very nice 1 bedroom, 1.5 bath apartment in Illinois with an attached garage, in a very nice area, was less than that 😭 I got off the waitlist so a lot of the less expensive but still decent stuff had already been scooped by the time I was looking and then I just stayed there all 4 years because I didn’t want to move (I hate moving)

 

[fauna]

O O F
My very nice 1 bedroom, 1.5 bath apartment in Illinois with an attached garage, in a very nice area, was less than that 😭 I got off the waitlist so a lot of the less expensive but still decent stuff had already been scooped by the time I was looking and then I just stayed there all 4 years because I didn’t want to move (I hate moving)

yupppp i think it comes down to cost of living where you end up going to school. if you can find a reasonable option, living alone is sooo nice and can def be worth it.

a lot of my classmates live alone here and were able to find 1 bedroom places for like $700-800/month. see, back in florida that is what i was paying while having THREE OTHER ROOMMATES. currently, i am in a three bedroom house that i adore and it is, in total, less than what i was paying when i lived alone in a shoebox 1 bedroom apartment in florida.

anyway, it’s nice bc i have one roommate so we turned the extra room into an office and we have plenty of space to spread out and get privacy. i was pretty accustomed to living alone but having the extra space has made it feel like no big difference.

 

[vampyrica]

O O F
My very nice 1 bedroom, 1.5 bath apartment in Illinois with an attached garage, in a very nice area, was less than that 😭 I got off the waitlist so a lot of the less expensive but still decent stuff had already been scooped by the time I was looking and then I just stayed there all 4 years because I didn’t want to move (I hate moving)

my 1b1b 600sqft apartment with no garage or utilities included is $1700 a month…with utilities and fees $1900

ouch.

 

[vampyrica]

luckily i’m moving next year since my partner is moving out here. we’re looking for a potential rent to buy townhome or condo!

 

[oweue]

yall would hate to hear the rent on my one bedroom with no laundry in Boston…..

 

[JaynaAli]

Obviously I am older than dirt, but when I was in school you could rent a bedroom in a house for about $300/bedroom. Meaning a 2-3 bedroom house would be $600-$900. My parents bought me a 3 bedroom 1200 sq ft starter home that was $105,000. We sold it to my roommate’s parents for what they paid for it and it’s now valued at twice what we’d bought it for. The apartment I rented after my residency ended in a large southern city suburb was $1300 in 2021 and I just checked and it now rents for $2050…that’s crazy increases in just 10-15 years. All housing is crazy.

 

[breezywonton]

people dog on me for living with my aunt 30 minutes from the school but guess who doesn't have to pay for rent or groceries 😛

 

[catsandsnakes]

I would lose my mind if I had to live with roommates again. I lived in a 5-person house for two years and the last year was absolutely ruined by one bad apple that made our lives a living hell for a few months. I have never been happier here in my apartment in cbus. Any mess I come home to is mine! I don't have to talk to anyone!

I miss my 200 a month rent at my undergrad though ;-;

 

[katiemcat]

people dog on me for living with my aunt 30 minutes from the school but guess who doesn't have to pay for rent or groceries 😛

This is literally GOATed don’t listen to the haters they’re jealous. Save your money.

 

[overcastkidjuno]

Has anyone currently in practice opted out of using the "AI scribe" systems? I've been seeing more and more of this used in clinics. I am extremely morally opposed to generative AI and I refuse to use it for any purpose, to the point where I will stop using a service / product if they force it on me. I don't care if it saves time, I would rather handwrite my case notes for 20 hours than use it for even one prompt. I am fully willing to search far and wide when I graduate to find somewhere that does not make me use it and will not force me to do so. But, I wanted to see if anyone has had success opting out when their clinic implemented this, as that would calm my fears somewhat.

 

[fauna]

people dog on me for living with my aunt 30 minutes from the school but guess who doesn't have to pay for rent or groceries 😛

the half a year that i moved back in with my parents was heavenly. i was spoiled af they made me dinner and everything.

 

[katiemcat]

Has anyone currently in practice opted out of using the "AI scribe" systems? I've been seeing more and more of this used in clinics. I am extremely morally opposed to generative AI and I refuse to use it for any purpose, to the point where I will stop using a service / product if they force it on me. I don't care if it saves time, I would rather handwrite my case notes for 20 hours than use it for even one prompt. I am fully willing to search far and wide when I graduate to find somewhere that does not make me use it and will not force me to do so. But, I wanted to see if anyone has had success opting out when their clinic implemented this, as that would calm my fears somewhat.

Im still a student but my school has started using scribble vet and I have refused to use it.

 

[finnickthedog]

Has anyone currently in practice opted out of using the "AI scribe" systems? I've been seeing more and more of this used in clinics. I am extremely morally opposed to generative AI and I refuse to use it for any purpose, to the point where I will stop using a service / product if they force it on me. I don't care if it saves time, I would rather handwrite my case notes for 20 hours than use it for even one prompt. I am fully willing to search far and wide when I graduate to find somewhere that does not make me use it and will not force me to do so. But, I wanted to see if anyone has had success opting out when their clinic implemented this, as that would calm my fears somewhat.

We use it, but we let clients opt out so I can't imagine that we would force a doctor to use it if they didn't want to. As long as the records are complete and in timely matter, I don't think anyone here cares how they get done.

 

[battie]

Has anyone currently in practice opted out of using the "AI scribe" systems?

Abso-****-alutely not because I am also morally opposed. My staff gets to hear my rants regularly against AI. I work for the green themed corp currently and it's an option but not an obligation. The only thing I like is saving the recording of discussion to avoid he said, she said accusations. It is one reason I would leave any job.

the half a year that i moved back in with my parents was heavenly. i was spoiled af they made me dinner and everything.

When I was considering internship and was single, my parents rallied hard for me to move back in with them. No rent and they would feed me and help with whatever they could. 🤩

 

[breezywonton]

the half a year that i moved back in with my parents was heavenly. i was spoiled af they made me dinner and everything.

homecooked meals everyday, money for gas, whole first floor to myself... it's gonna be rough when i have to be a big girl and move out for clinicals since i have to be closer to the school 😭

 

[vampyrica]

Abso-****-alutely not because I am also morally opposed. My staff gets to hear my rants regularly against AI. I work for the green themed corp currently and it's an option but not an obligation. The only thing I like is saving the recording of discussion to avoid he said, she said accusations. It is one reason I would leave any job.

there’s a green themed corp?!?

 

[supershorty]

Has anyone currently in practice opted out of using the "AI scribe" systems? I've been seeing more and more of this used in clinics. I am extremely morally opposed to generative AI and I refuse to use it for any purpose, to the point where I will stop using a service / product if they force it on me. I don't care if it saves time, I would rather handwrite my case notes for 20 hours than use it for even one prompt. I am fully willing to search far and wide when I graduate to find somewhere that does not make me use it and will not force me to do so. But, I wanted to see if anyone has had success opting out when their clinic implemented this, as that would calm my fears somewhat.

I refuse to use it, but my clinic doesn't force us to anyway.

 

[soupshark]

my 1b1b 600sqft apartment with no garage or utilities included is $1700 a month…with utilities and fees $1900

ouch.

Oh wow that's very similar to my rent and I don't have mountains 😭 I pay about $1500 with utilities in butt-f middle of nowhere IL lol

But I shop at Aldi so I spend about $50 a week on groceries. It's doable

 

[soupshark]

people dog on me for living with my aunt 30 minutes from the school but guess who doesn't have to pay for rent or groceries 😛

Peak af

 

[CeeGee14]

😅

The reputation in the lower classes for @pp9 class was, "Work hard, play hard." Definitely a high volume of partying rumored for 2019, definitely for 2021, and the students of 2024 took it to a whole new level 🤣🤣🤣

Oh boy.