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[sweetvalentin]

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have to look at where you think you will thrive…if you have other options, you may want to consider them.

Believe me, I did as much research as possible by now.. None of this is new info for me. I'm confident I can become a city person, it was just about being alone there without my wife or any friends. Penn is my only option financially, but I'm going to make the best of it.

Welcome to Philly! I got my undergrad degree there and while Philadelphia will always have a special place in my heart, I am never going back again (except passing through for the airport haha).

That's pretty much where I'm at, Philly is not the end destination at all. Gonna get this degree and wrap it up

Philly tips: Always have pepper spray (or a taser like some of my friends lmao), always share your location with someone and update your friends that you're safe. Never go to a gas station at night or walk outside alone at night. Never leave anything visible in your car - it will 100% get broken into.

Thanks for the tips! I will definitely be loaded as far as weapons, I don't play around. I'm trying to stay positive, sorry to hear about your classmate 😔
No dogs for me but shoot I might consider it if I'm feeling really unsafe. Thanks again

 

[Jess Monster]

Day was going well until the end, when my PM got an attitude about the antibiotic I chose for my last case (the more therapeutically appropriate and less expensive one). Apparently, oral meds “just don’t work in cats”, which is news to me since I prescribe oral meds to cats every f-ing day with no problems. Whatever.

Further context, sweet, friendly cat with owners who have a high likelihood to follow treatment recommendations… stop pushing convenia for everything. Like, really. Every time an antibiotic is used inappropriately an epidemiologist somewhere sh-ts herself.

 

[vetmedhead]

Day was going well until the end, when my PM got an attitude about the antibiotic I chose for my last case (the more therapeutically appropriate and less expensive one). Apparently, oral meds “just don’t work in cats”, which is news to me since I prescribe oral meds to cats every f-ing day with no problems. Whatever.

Further context, sweet, friendly cat with owners who have a high likelihood to follow treatment recommendations… stop pushing convenia for everything. Like, really. Every time an antibiotic is used inappropriately an epidemiologist somewhere sh-ts herself.

I have some colleagues who call it Inconvenia because of how annoyingly it gets pushed on everything lol

 

[WildZoo]

The fact a university veterinary hospital is using paper records is ridiculous

As far as I'm aware UT is still hybrid, smh. Like we've had the capacity to go fully electronic for years, not sure why they're still holding onto the paper stuff.

 

[supershorty]

Wow, I thought it was silly that UMN still includes us having digital records in the tour guide script, but this conversation is making me rethink that being redundant

 

[babyvet]

update: the dean convinced me to finish out the quarter if I can. That is the ideal situation ofc, I just feel like with my current state of mind that it's going to be extremely difficult to accomplish. So I'm going to take a few more exams and go from there. Right now my grades are fine but if I fail a class I can remediate it over the summer. I would much rather have only the summer to figure things out than an entire year. No matter what though, it's not like I'm at risk for being kicked out of the program & that makes me feel a lot better. I really think I'd enjoy being a vet, I'm just not as sure I can make it there

Hey I'm glad you found a choice that feels right for you. I definitely relate. For me I came into vet school with depression, anxiety, ptsd and already on meds. I had years of therapy, tools, and being stable before vet school. It still is super hard for me. I passively feel like quitting most of the time, but I really think it is the school aspect. I'm getting tested for some attention and memory issues right now. The testing lady literally told me that with the results she already has I will be great for medicine and hands on, but school must be an absolute nightmare for me. That made me feel better. So remember some people just ****in hate vet school man, and that's okay.

The only time I seriously thought about leaving was for a few days after some bad episodes. Had a 3 incidents where I was more seriously suicidal during 1st and 2nd year, and after a particularly triggering euthanasia. I had outside issues going on at the time + the stress of vet school made me unable to regulate the already horrible outside issues occurring in my life, thus creating a perfect storm. If you ever get feeling like suicidal just remember no career, person, or anything at all is ever worth sacrificing your life. That is how I see it. If I graduate and get suicidal in practice I'm dipping.

I have casual existential dread of "did I do the right thing moments", I just ignore them. I know that most of them are rooted in insecurity and massive anxiety. I try not to make big decisions when I'm having anxiety and not thinking clearly. Again caveat is if I feel suicidal. That's the hard line for me, I would always listen to that. I try to remember all of those "wow" moments that inspired me to go into veterinary medicine. All of the fun times and cool things I've seen that made me go "I want to do this forever".

When the anxiety gets the best of me I step away from school, skip lectures, call my friends back home and listen to their problems, and just do normal life things. Remind myself that vet school is complete bull**** means to an end, and there is a good bit of people who were miserable in veterinary school and are so happy as actual vets. I have no shame. I have no problem with veterinary school as complain-ey as I sound, for me it feels like there's a lot of bull**** half the time and I'm a stubborn resilient person. I am fully aware it's just my personality and propensity for boredom, disdain of school for my entire life, and insecurity. So I just keep kicking along and now I'm about be done with 3rd year, only exam left in my life is the NAVLE!

I like you have good grades. After midterms, it's impossible for me to fail this semester so I'm just chilling. So if it makes you feel better I had the same mindset and got through it. Always follow your gut, life is too short and precious to be miserable. I'm just sticking around based on those wow moments that got me into vetmed + trusting others who hated school and love being a veterinarian now. Cheers buddy

P.S. I also remind myself of a hospital I shadowed who was talking about employment and mentorship. This made me feel so much better.
"No offense, but when you get out of veterinary school you will have no idea what you are doing." So don't put too much pressure on yourself.
This is where rant about how much time vet school wastes studying zebras instead of real life common ****, material only relevant to specialists, species we will never set our hands on after vet school.... why you may ask?? for the sole purpose to get us to pass the NAVLE, which I would say is a flawed system. This is the NAVLE system's fault not individual veterinary schools. End rant

 

[beepboopbop1]

I already had Invisalign but it didn’t help my bite much. My sister told me she got something called a splint and she no longer has TMJ pain so that’s what I’m hoping for! Cant go to the dentist until after mandatory class tho 🥸

I've been using a daytime and nighttime splint for the last couple years and it has helped TREMENDOUSLY with my TMJ

 

[katiemcat]

I've been using a daytime and nighttime splint for the last couple years and it has helped TREMENDOUSLY with my TMJ

Good to know!! I just got fitted for one 🙂

 

[BlackCatsRuleTheWorld]

update: the dean convinced me to finish out the quarter if I can. That is the ideal situation ofc, I just feel like with my current state of mind that it's going to be extremely difficult to accomplish. So I'm going to take a few more exams and go from there. Right now my grades are fine but if I fail a class I can remediate it over the summer. I would much rather have only the summer to figure things out than an entire year. No matter what though, it's not like I'm at risk for being kicked out of the program & that makes me feel a lot better. I really think I'd enjoy being a vet, I'm just not as sure I can make it there

Please ask a classmate for help if there are concepts you aren't understanding - when dealing with mental health issues, things that normally make sense may just not click. Having someone explain it a different way in a low pressure situation (classmate/friend) may be just the thing you need to get you over a tricky topic or concept <3

 

[VeggieTrex]

Someone brought a knife into the hospital today! Didn't directly threaten anyone, but it was a disaster of a case and things could have been way worse than they were. Like our faculty took the case because of it all.

 

[SkiOtter]

Someone brought a knife into the hospital today! Didn't directly threaten anyone, but it was a disaster of a case and things could have been way worse than they were. Like our faculty took the case because of it all.

Hi I’m a nosy ass bish. I assume it was not just like a pocket knife they happened to have on their person👀 you’re in ER at uiuc, right??

 

[VeggieTrex]

Hi I’m a nosy ass bish. I assume it was not just like a pocket knife they happened to have on their person👀 you’re in ER at uiuc, right??

It was large and on their belt. And I am. It wasn't our only knife related incident over the past couple days because someone broke up a dog-fight by stabbing the other dog. I wasn't there for that dog though.

There may or may not be a crazy zoo med case there now, but I left a few hours ago.

 

[SkiOtter]

It was large and on their belt. And I am. It wasn't our only knife related incident over the past couple days because someone broke up a dog-fight by stabbing the other dog. I wasn't there for that dog though.

There may or may not be a crazy zoo med case there now, but I left a few hours ago.

Did they refuse to take it off and put it in their car or something?

Also YIKES @ that dog fight incident

Not surprised if there is some sort of crazy zoo med case though 😅

 

[VeggieTrex]

Did they refuse to take it off and put it in their car or something?

Also YIKES @ that dog fight incident

Not surprised if there is some sort of crazy zoo med case though 😅

I'm not sure because faculty noticed it while they were in the room, and by that point that would have caused many more problems.

 

[barkology]

Someone brought a knife into the hospital today! Didn't directly threaten anyone, but it was a disaster of a case and things could have been way worse than they were. Like our faculty took the case because of it all.

We had a case of a dog that was accidentally shot by it's owner- it was a truly gruesome scene- there was absolutely no way in hell that CPR would work on this dog, it had well been passed before arriving to our facility (shot in hindquarter, approx 35 lbs... you can imagine).
....Anyway, the owner of the dog was absolutely irrate that we were unable to revive his deceased dog and asked if knowing the type of gun would be helpful because he has it in the truck....

....absolutely not SIR. The police were called and had to disarm the firearm in our parking lot.

There are so many things wrong with this situation that I cannot even begin, but just for starters:

1. Why would you bring a firearm that you obviously don't know how to properly care for, use, etc.?? Like it is obvious that gun safety was not a priority at all considering he just accidentally shot his dog (and from my understanding he did not mean to shoot the gun at all? (for context it was a rifle or shotgun not a handgun.. I don't remember exactly)
2. Why are you transporting a LOADED firearm? That is MAD illegal.
3. Why are you bringing it with you in the first place
4. I understand that this man was in a very frazzled state due to the traumatic events HOWEVER.... veterinary staff are medical professionals... they are not God. We cannot rejuvenate your dogs organs and magically wish them back in place.

People can be absolutely careless with weapons sometimes. So frustrating! Thoughts and prayers to all the techs that have to deal with ignorance daily and know you're not alone!

*For the record I am absolutely NOT anti-gun, anti-hunting, anti- self defense, etc. But there is a difference between accidental happenings and ignorance.

 

[SkiOtter]

....Anyway, the owner of the dog was absolutely irrate that we were unable to revive his deceased dog and asked if knowing the type of gun would be helpful because he has it in the truck....

WHAT

 

[barkology]

WHAT

Yeah exactly.

 

[flotus]

Apartment hunting sucks so bad.

$1500 1 bedroom 20 minutes from vet school
$1750 2 bedroom 10 minutes “”
$1820 2 bedroom 5 minutes “”

Prices increase with quality of area and complex as well, which is nice I guess that it doesn’t get crappier closer to the school.

And I can’t do roommates 🙁(( who can afford this ISH!

 

[anxiousanimallover]

Apartment hunting sucks so bad.

$1500 1 bedroom 20 minutes from vet school
$1750 2 bedroom 10 minutes “”
$1820 2 bedroom 5 minutes “”

Prices increase with quality of area and complex as well, which is nice I guess that it doesn’t get crappier closer to the school.

And I can’t do roommates 🙁(( who can afford this ISH!

ridiculous as our tuition is already trash.... I think they should pay for our housing lol

 

[honeypot999]

Apartment hunting sucks so bad.

$1500 1 bedroom 20 minutes from vet school
$1750 2 bedroom 10 minutes “”
$1820 2 bedroom 5 minutes “”

Prices increase with quality of area and complex as well, which is nice I guess that it doesn’t get crappier closer to the school.

And I can’t do roommates 🙁(( who can afford this ISH!

Columbus is so expensive to live in so I feel for you. It was part of the reason I turned down job offers from Batille because I couldn’t afford it.

 

[battie]

Apartment hunting sucks so bad.

$1500 1 bedroom 20 minutes from vet school
$1750 2 bedroom 10 minutes “”
$1820 2 bedroom 5 minutes “”

Prices increase with quality of area and complex as well, which is nice I guess that it doesn’t get crappier closer to the school.

And I can’t do roommates 🙁(( who can afford this ISH!

That's $300 less than my mortgage 😡

 

[supershorty]

That's $300 less than my mortgage 😡

And it's more than my mortgage was each month.

 

[JaynaAli]

Wow…The cheapest on that list is double my mortgage+insurance payment. Yay rural living. But I’ve also lived in cities where rent in a safe place was 1800+ which sucks.

 

[anxiousanimallover]

That's $300 less than my mortgage 😡

Save up and invest while you can is what it's sounding like? lol

 

[SkiOtter]

That's $300 less than my mortgage 😡

The second one is $20 less than my mortgage for my whole ass house and I have more bedrooms🥲😬

 

[flotus]

So! I really really wanted to buy a house! However, because I won’t have a stable income in vet school that would be enough to cover a mortgage, I can’t purchase in my name.

My aunt was gracious enough to say that she would put her name on the home loan, but because she already owns a home, this house would be considered an “investment” property. With that being said, she would need 10-20% for a down payment depending on the lender.

The housing market in Columbus, like everywhere, sucks. My realtor said to get a decent house in a decent area, looking between 200-250k…that would be a lot of cheddar for a down payment, then looking at about $1200-$1600 mortgage with the way interest rates are right now!!!

So I don’t think purchasing is an option at this moment 🙁

I only have about 3k saved up which I am super proud about even though it’s not a lot, and it still isn’t enough to get the home buying process started.


I’m sure there are cheaper options if I were to look into renting from private apartment landlords - which I did get on a few of their websites and they’re about $1400-$1600, but, they have zero amenities and it’s hard to see reviews about how they manage properties and such which scares me. I think I might feel safer in a community?

I must say, the $1800 apartment IS FABULOUS as far as location and safety goes. But I will be throwing money away, not building equity.

It sucks I will be approved for an $1800 a month apartment (W/ guarantor) but won’t be able to be approved to purchase a home with a cheaper mortgage LOL.

 

[SkiOtter]

So! I really really wanted to buy a house! However, because I won’t have a stable income in vet school that would be enough to cover a mortgage, I can’t purchase in my name.

My aunt was gracious enough to say that she would put her name on the home loan, but because she already owns a home, this house would be considered an “investment” property. With that being said, she would need 10-20% for a down payment depending on the lender.

The housing market in Columbus, like everywhere, sucks. My realtor said to get a decent house in a decent area, looking between 200-250k…that would be a lot of cheddar for a down payment, then looking at about $1200-$1600 mortgage with the way interest rates are right now!!!

So I don’t think purchasing is an option at this moment 🙁

I only have about 3k saved up which I am super proud about even though it’s not a lot, and it still isn’t enough to get the home buying process started.


I’m sure there are cheaper options if I were to look into renting from private apartment landlords - which I did get on a few of their websites and they’re about $1400-$1600, but, they have zero amenities and it’s hard to see reviews about how they manage properties and such which scares me. I think I might feel safer in a community?

I must say, the $1800 apartment IS FABULOUS as far as location and safety goes. But I will be throwing money away, not building equity.

It sucks I will be approved for an $1800 a month apartment (W/ guarantor) but won’t be able to be approved to purchase a home with a cheaper mortgage LOL.

How far out of town are you willing to go for housing?

 

[flotus]

How far out of town are you willing to go for housing?

I looked up to 20 mins out but tbh if I’m paying 1500 for a 1 Br 20 minutes out, I’d rather pay $1800 for a 2 Br right in the middle of everything

 

[DVMDream]

That's $300 less than my mortgage 😡

All of those are higher than my mortgage. Renting is insanely expensive, I feel really bad for current students.

 

[puppydogtor]

@flotus your post is too relatable 🙃

I was also trying to buy a house.. rent is so much more expensive than a mortgage! I currently live in a dumpy apartment (cheapest I could find) - $1400 for a 2bed/1bath in a somewhat unsafe area with questionable neighbors. I've called the cops on my neighbors several times for domestic violence and once for animal abuse. Even when I was in Philly I never had to call the cops on my neighbors. I'm 10-15 min away from campus, if I wanted to live closer & in a nicer area I'd be paying about $1800-2000 per month for a much smaller unit.

If I got a house with my SO, most of our savings would have to go into the down payment. We'd have little wiggle room for emergency vet bills or home repairs. We daydream all of the time about getting a house, but it's simply not doable for us rn.

The biggest stressor of apartment living for me is the pet limit. We are limited to 2 pets yet we have 5 lol (2 dogs, 2 cats, and 1 foster bunny). I have the dogs on the lease and one cat as an ESA (AZ law makes it so ESA's don't count towards pet limits). Having a second cat is easy to hide. I typically foster kittens, but currently I have a bun and so the worst case is if they find out I'd probably get a small fine and have to find a new foster parent to take him in. That's pretty unlikely since they have to give us 2 days notice if they want to enter our unit, but I still worry about getting caught. I realize I create this stress for myself, but fostering is so therapeutic for me. I can't resist sick baby animals

There's simply nothing we can do about getting a house right now. I just have to look on the bright side of things - I am so happy to finally share an apartment with my SO and our pets. Major step up from undergrad. But I'm also super looking forward to the day where I can have my own house, have a fenced in yard for doggos, drill as much as I want into the walls for cat wall furniture lol, and have a whole room dedicated to foster babies.

 

[katiemcat]

@flotus your post is too relatable 🙃

I was also trying to buy a house.. rent is so much more expensive than a mortgage! I currently live in a dumpy apartment (cheapest I could find) - $1400 for a 2bed/1bath in a somewhat unsafe area with questionable neighbors. I've called the cops on my neighbors several times for domestic violence and once for animal abuse. Even when I was in Philly I never had to call the cops on my neighbors. I'm 10-15 min away from campus, if I wanted to live closer & in a nicer area I'd be paying about $1800-2000 per month for a much smaller unit.

If I got a house with my SO, most of our savings would have to go into the down payment. We'd have little wiggle room for emergency vet bills or home repairs. We daydream all of the time about getting a house, but it's simply not doable for us rn.

The biggest stressor of apartment living for me is the pet limit. We are limited to 2 pets yet we have 5 lol (2 dogs, 2 cats, and 1 foster bunny). I have the dogs on the lease and one cat as an ESA (AZ law makes it so ESA's don't count towards pet limits). Having a second cat is easy to hide. I typically foster kittens, but currently I have a bun and so the worst case is if they find out I'd probably get a small fine and have to find a new foster parent to take him in. That's pretty unlikely since they have to give us 2 days notice if they want to enter our unit, but I still worry about getting caught. I realize I create this stress for myself, but fostering is so therapeutic for me. I can't resist sick baby animals

There's simply nothing we can do about getting a house right now. I just have to look on the bright side of things - I am so happy to finally share an apartment with my SO and our pets. Major step up from undergrad. But I'm also super looking forward to the day where I can have my own house, have a fenced in yard for doggos, drill as much as I want into the walls for cat wall furniture lol, and have a whole room dedicated to foster babies.

I totally relate to this… When I’m bored in class I look up houses for sale where we want to live and dream 🥹 Three more years…

 

[MixedAnimals77]

People🙄. Had 1 o insist I told her the pab was gonna be free...um no. Had another o somehow mistranslated a recommend referral for mri into euth or get $8k. Another o saying he'd have to go to plan B because we wouldn't refills his heartworm meds (it'd been over 2 years since we had seen pet) also because we don't do call 24/7 anymore. Idk what your plan b is but good luck finding a vet closer than 3 hrs that's gonna take your 3am call 😅

 

[honeypot999]

Never have I felt so nervous after declining seats at universities I know I couldn’t see myself at. It’s now between my IS and an OOS waitlist seat (I’m #1 on it). I feel like someone is going to pop out of nowhere and say “Haha fooled you! Try again next year.” Hoping the universe rewards me with good karma 😅

 

[battie]

When your supervisor texts you out of the blue to ask, "Do you have PLIT?" with zero context. 😅 Don't know if I should be nervous or not. But I don't have work again until Friday at 8pm, so we'll see! TBD if this turns into a vague rant at a later date

 

[battie]

I’m really nervous about my IS, it’s U of A and I’ve heard lots of mixed things about it. Some student have loved it and then other students have said they absolutely hate it

I can say with 100% confidence every vet school has this scenario. You can't train hundreds (if not thousands) of students over the decades and satisfy everyone. As an example, I felt extremely supported by my alma mater due to extenuating circumstances of repeating first year and then my sister dying two years later. I felt student services did right by me and they did everything in their power to keep me stable and get me to graduation. I however know for a fact a lot of people disagree strongly with me; that student services doesn't care about or support students. And, not for nothing, both experiences can be true.

It sucks having to make the smart financial decision rather than the emotionally well one. I can unequivocally say right now that if I knew everything I know now, I would have still gone to my in state. If nothing in the last 6 or 7 years changed except the vet school I attended, I would forego the great experience I had at Illinois for 5 years for the unknown of my in state. I cannot express how much I want the financial security of not having 120,000k in loans at 7% interest (and that's after my sister's life insurance money paid for half of 2nd, 3rd, and 4th year).

We would have bought a better house without the concerns it has. My husband could work part time if he wanted to. We could invest my 1000/month student loan payment instead of sending it to the government. And so on and so forth.

And, if you really continue to experience apprehension about Arizona's program, you can bust ass and excel in order to be able to transfer. You may have to repeat classes/whole semester or year. But that option may be on the table.

 

[WildZoo]

I’m just gonna dump this here because I feel like maybe someone will relate. But, I think the US education system is SO stupid. Why is there such an obscene price difference for IS and OOS students. It’s ALL the US. I got accepted to one of the best vet schools in the world, and ultimately turned it down because of costs. It was an almost 80k difference and that’s not even including interest accruing. I can’t afford to be in debt for so long in a career where debt is one of the main reasons for suicide and unhappiness. Now, I can’t even be happy about the fact that I got into not one but SEVERAL vet schools. I was so stressed about applying and in the end was torturing myself trying to choose. I’m so nervous about the program I’m going to, of course it’s my luck that my top choice turned me down and then I was stuck deciding between my IS and OOS. I’m really nervous about my IS, it’s U of A and I’ve heard lots of mixed things about it. Some student have loved it and then other students have said they absolutely hate it. But, Cornell was so expensive. I tried doing a soft decision and accepted a seat to Cornell in my head, but it just didn’t sit right with me and when I thought of the cost it just made me stress out so much. U of A say with me a bit better, but it’s almost like a resigned sadness. Now, I’m stressed about U of A but for different reasons. One moment I feel like I made the right choice, the next I feel like I’ve possibly screwed up my future and I made the worst mistake of my life. I’m being kind of dramatic right now but it feels good to get it all out. I just wish I could be basking in happiness and being excited about starting veterinary school which has been my dream for so long instead of going back and forth between my decision and worrying about it. I feel like I’m in the post acceptance blues and honestly it sucks because if you’d asked me a year ago today I was convinced I wouldn’t even be getting IN anywhere in the first place and would have to apply for a second cycle. Okay that’s my rant and maybe somebody else can relate or has insight

I want to signal boost everything bats said, and also add on that if you talk to enough Cornell students (and not just the ones who self select to advertise the school to applicants and admitted students) you will get mixed reviews there as well. "One of the best vet schools in the world" means very little to anyone, even if you are looking to specialize. There just aren't enough schools to have the kind of quality tiering that you see in med schools for example. Few people will put much stock in where you went to school once you graduate.

I have yet to meet a vet who regretted going to their cheapest option and avoiding extra loans. I have met many who regret doing the opposite. I know it's hard and there's a lot of the unknown. But you made a smart decision for yourself. No school is worth an extra 80k.

 

[honeypot999]

I’m just gonna dump this here because I feel like maybe someone will relate. But, I think the US education system is SO stupid. Why is there such an obscene price difference for IS and OOS students. It’s ALL the US. I got accepted to one of the best vet schools in the world, and ultimately turned it down because of costs. It was an almost 80k difference and that’s not even including interest accruing. I can’t afford to be in debt for so long in a career where debt is one of the main reasons for suicide and unhappiness. Now, I can’t even be happy about the fact that I got into not one but SEVERAL vet schools. I was so stressed about applying and in the end was torturing myself trying to choose. I’m so nervous about the program I’m going to, of course it’s my luck that my top choice turned me down and then I was stuck deciding between my IS and OOS. I’m really nervous about my IS, it’s U of A and I’ve heard lots of mixed things about it. Some student have loved it and then other students have said they absolutely hate it. I am a really determined person so I think that I can really work hard and make the most of my experience, but I’m still just worried about it. Cornell was just so expensive. I tried doing a soft decision and accepted a seat to Cornell in my head, but it just didn’t sit right with me and when I thought of the cost it just made me stress out so much. U of A say with me a bit better, but it’s almost like a resigned sadness. Now, I’m stressed about U of A but for different reasons. One moment I feel like I made the right choice, the next I feel like I’ve possibly screwed up my future and I made the worst mistake of my life. I’m being kind of dramatic right now but it feels good to get it all out. I just wish I could be basking in happiness and being excited about starting veterinary school which has been my dream for so long instead of going back and forth between my decision and worrying about it. I feel like I’m in the post acceptance blues and honestly it sucks because if you’d asked me a year ago today I was convinced I wouldn’t even be getting IN anywhere in the first place and would have to apply for a second cycle. Okay that’s my rant and maybe somebody else can relate or has insight

I feel all of your emotions right now. I was choosing between a school i loved on first sight and my IS. It put it in perspective to go back and read a lot of the older “More expensive vet school” thread where all the current vets were screaming at us to not be stupid. What helped me feel okay was seeing it as “have a good 4 years” or “a good life”. To me I’d much rather have a better QOL for a future where i’m not super stressed about potentially having kids or being able to go on vacation. So IS it was

 

[anxiousanimallover]

To all my fellow waitlisters and those who have been rejected and might not understand why because we did EVERYTHING right, I had a conversation with the surgeon and anesthesiologist I work with today and they were trying to understand why my application had failed and how they would love to hear about my application reviews for some context. But they also said that a place where people hard workers with lots of talent and passion don't get in (in this case they were being biased towards me) is a broken system. They also explained how hard it is to be amongst cycles within a broken system that is actively trying to get fixed. I think this conversation was helpful for me to cope because they explained it really isn't anything that I am doing wrong just kinks with in this system and someone will see my light shining eventually. They will see yours too.

 

[sunobo]

I am a really determined person so I think that I can really work hard and make the most of my experience

This is the statement to focus on.

U of A is like most (if not all) new schools and is going through growing pains and learning where they need to make changes each semester. They are only now having their first year take the NAVLE and go through their clinical year. It's tough to get a clear picture of what kind of school it will be as time goes on but I believe they are motivated to get and keep their accreditation so they will continue to improve. No school is a one size fits all.

Some people thrive in large lecture classes while others do better in small groups. U of A has team based learning.

I'm a firm believer that what you get out of something is directly related to how much you put into it. There will be opportunities to get involved and add to your experiences. Try not to get too bummed based on other people's opinions and wait to draw you own conclusions based on your own experiences.

 

[battie]

When your supervisor texts you out of the blue to ask, "Do you have PLIT?" with zero context. 😅 Don't know if I should be nervous or not. But I don't have work again until Friday at 8pm, so we'll see! TBD if this turns into a vague rant at a later date

I'm now pretty sure it's for me to be able to go to one of the local shelters and do spays/neuters since I haven't spayed anything since junior surgery 🤣

 

[laupaw27]

I’m just gonna dump this here because I feel like maybe someone will relate. But, I think the US education system is SO stupid. Why is there such an obscene price difference for IS and OOS students. It’s ALL the US. I got accepted to one of the best vet schools in the world, and ultimately turned it down because of costs. It was an almost 80k difference and that’s not even including interest accruing. I can’t afford to be in debt for so long in a career where debt is one of the main reasons for suicide and unhappiness. Now, I can’t even be happy about the fact that I got into not one but SEVERAL vet schools. I was so stressed about applying and in the end was torturing myself trying to choose. I’m so nervous about the program I’m going to, of course it’s my luck that my top choice turned me down and then I was stuck deciding between my IS and OOS. I’m really nervous about my IS, it’s U of A and I’ve heard lots of mixed things about it. Some student have loved it and then other students have said they absolutely hate it. I am a really determined person so I think that I can really work hard and make the most of my experience, but I’m still just worried about it. Cornell was just so expensive. I tried doing a soft decision and accepted a seat to Cornell in my head, but it just didn’t sit right with me and when I thought of the cost it just made me stress out so much. U of A say with me a bit better, but it’s almost like a resigned sadness. Now, I’m stressed about U of A but for different reasons. One moment I feel like I made the right choice, the next I feel like I’ve possibly screwed up my future and I made the worst mistake of my life. I’m being kind of dramatic right now but it feels good to get it all out. I just wish I could be basking in happiness and being excited about starting veterinary school which has been my dream for so long instead of going back and forth between my decision and worrying about it. I feel like I’m in the post acceptance blues and honestly it sucks because if you’d asked me a year ago today I was convinced I wouldn’t even be getting IN anywhere in the first place and would have to apply for a second cycle. Okay that’s my rant and maybe somebody else can relate or has insight

It does suck EXTREMELY, but there are actual legitimate reasons for the price difference. Big one is that your state taxes have already been going towards education, so when in-state students actually start to take advantage of said education, they get a price cut. Also, they want to educate as many in-state students as possible since they are more likely to stay in the state post-graduation and contribute to the state's economy, vs. a blind process where students from every corner of the country would come, get educated, and leave (same reason why many schools don't accept international students at all). Ah, the blessing and curse of federalism...
I definitely feel for you, I think we're all having that thought 🙁 I wonder how the politics of this will change in the coming years with the shortages and just rapid change in general.

 

[VeggieTrex]

It does suck EXTREMELY, but there are actual legitimate reasons for the price difference. Big one is that your state taxes have already been going towards education, so when in-state students actually start to take advantage of said education, they get a price cut. Also, they want to educate as many in-state students as possible since they are more likely to stay in the state post-graduation and contribute to the state's economy, vs. a blind process where students from every corner of the country would come, get educated, and leave (same reason why many schools don't accept international students at all). Ah, the blessing and curse of federalism...
I definitely feel for you, I think we're all having that thought 🙁 I wonder how the politics of this will change in the coming years with the shortages and just rapid change in general.

I was talking with one of my instructors about application changes we could see due to politics. I'm sure not all the schools in states with major health care restrictions will see a drop-off, but I would immagine schools in non-restricted states will see a major jump.

Plus there's climate change issues that will affect instruction in so many ways. Hurricanes down south, major wildfires will keep getting bigger, more extreme snow and ice events. And thats before I go on a tangent on pathogen shifts from climate change! It's going to cause some pretty big challenges going forward, and it's only going to get harder to address.

 

[twelvetigers]

I'm going to offer the extremely comforting and helpful advice that you will, in fact, hate vet school no matter WHERE you go, so you might as well take on less debt in the process.

I know it's hyperbole, a little bit, but also... I mean. I don't think anyone would volunteer to go back. So go get your edjumacation and then try and make sure you find opportunities to get involved with whatever it is you like. You'll be ready to leave when you're done.

 

[Abnerrs]

I'm going to offer the extremely comforting and helpful advice that you will, in fact, hate vet school no matter WHERE you go, so you might as well take on less debt in the process.

I know it's hyperbole, a little bit, but also... I mean. I don't think anyone would volunteer to go back. So go get your edjumacation and then try and make sure you find opportunities to get involved with whatever it is you like. You'll be ready to leave when you're done.

I did not enjoy a lot of vet school. There were a lot of things I did like. But most of it was hard work, slave labor, dramatic classmates, and lost sleep lol.

 

[honeypot999]

In the past week, I have worked myself up at least 4 times with extreme anxiety about vet school such as loans and made up scenarios in my head. I just want this anxiety to be over and not to worry about it anymore. I just feel sick to my stomach all the time from being anxious.

 

[HW_88]

In the past week, I have worked myself up at least 4 times with extreme anxiety about vet school such as loans and made up scenarios in my head. I just want this anxiety to be over and not to worry about it anymore. I just feel sick to my stomach all the time from being anxious.

I feel this. I have been home sick all week and I can't get away from my thoughts. I wish I could just bury my feelings with work. I have cried every day. I am so close and I just want an answer. I am on three waitlists and I am trying to be grateful and proud. This is my 4th year applying and I would have killed to have just 1 waitlist position in previous years. I think that it is okay to have big feelings, even bad feelings, about when you get what you have always wanted because it is such a BIG thing. I just started therapy this year for the first time after digging my heels in about being too strong, too smart, too proud, etc. for years even through I intellectually knew that I was suffering. Its helped me feel my feelings and I am hopeful that when I do get my good news that I will actually feel it.

 

[puppydogtor]

It's reassuring to know people had similar feelings about vet school and yet they stuck with it / seem to enjoy being a vet.

I really wish my mental state wasn't so awful right now. It takes everything in me to focus on studying and I'm so darn close to the end of the quarter. I am a human version of the phrase "fake it till you make it"

 

[Abnerrs]

Here's the thing. I love being a vet. I also HATE it. It's horrendous. People treat you like garbage. But also, I can't see myself wanting to do anything else 🤷‍♀️

 

[sweetvalentin]

Here's the thing. I love being a vet. I also HATE it. It's horrendous. People treat you like garbage. But also, I can't see myself wanting to do anything else 🤷‍♀️

This. Literally have had dvms look me in the face and tell me don't do it. I'm like WTF else would I do with my life??? This is my entire world it's everything I've ever known. I know there are parts that will suck so so so so bad...but I still know it will be worth it for me. Let's all hang in there! (And put lots of money towards retirement 🤩 )

 

[that redhead]

Here's the thing. I love being a vet. I also HATE it. It's horrendous. People treat you like garbage. But also, I can't see myself wanting to do anything else 🤷‍♀️

Once I got away from clients in the traditional sense, it got a million times better.