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Abnerrs said:
I've thought about it A LOT. I'm a RAGING extrovert though so I ALSO love the part I hate. I just wish the bad outweighed the good more. It's just that the bad is... BAD
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I still get lots of human interaction daily with coworkers, but probably not enough regular stranger interaction for your fix 😉
 
Feeling super pessimistic at the moment..

So this year I applied to VMCVM and ended up on the MD waitlist (#3). In the beginning I thought that it was great, that it would be almost definite I would get pulled off because what are the odds that not a single person declines?

Well here we are and they didn't have to pull anyone. The rest of the class is about to be full also.

I feel so hopeless about this situation. My family and vets i work with are trying to keep me positive but like... the odds of 1 person pulling out after a deposit isn't hopeless, but 3 (especially because I have communicated with #2 in line and she would def accept)? Ugh. Feeling extra bummed right now.
 
that redhead said:
I still get lots of human interaction daily with coworkers, but probably not enough regular stranger interaction for your fix 😉
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The stranger interaction is the part that wears me out the most, idk how so many introverts stay in GP long term. I'm good at client communication but omg it drains me SO MUCH to talk to strangers all day.
 
WildZoo said:
The stranger interaction is the part that wears me out the most, idk how so many introverts stay in GP long term. I'm good at client communication but omg it drains me SO MUCH to talk to strangers all day.
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It's the dingus interaction that wears me out the fastest 🤣
 
I'm no good at Physics. The concepts are usually fine, but translating them into the math is difficult for me.

For this reason, I spend a lot of my time in the Math & Science free tutoring center.

I know it's a self-selected group of people, but Yikes! The other students who also spend a ton of time there and like to chat are like Pre-Allo in real life. It makes me feel anxious because it reminds me I am being compared to an applicant pool who have seemingly been so ****ing perfect their whole ****ing lives. They like to brag about a life I don't want of having no time for a partner/friends and not taking lunch/dinner breaks or sleeping all night. But, at the same time, the other people are that intense and I am definitely not. I have totally lost points on stuff to get quality time with my SO/sleep/eat.

For the sake of my own mental health, I try really hard not to compare myself to others, causing me to generally avoid other Pre-Med students, but I don't like thinking about what I am up against in the applicant pool. I can't avoid these people talking about it every week right now because I need the Physics help. At least there is two weeks left of school (one week of classes and one week of finals).

Thank you for listening!
 
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RespectTheChemistry said:
I'm no good at Physics. The concepts are usually fine, but translating them into the math is difficult for me.

For this reason, I spend a lot of my time in the Math & Science free tutoring center.

I know it's a self-selected group of people, but Yikes! The other students who also spend a ton of time there and like to chat are like Pre-Allo in real life. It makes me feel anxious because it reminds me I am being compared to an applicant pool who have seemingly been so ****ing perfect their whole ****ing lives. They like to brag about a life I don't want of having no time for a partner/friends and not taking lunch/dinner breaks or sleeping all night. But, at the same time, the other people are that intense and I am definitely not. I have totally lost points on stuff to get quality time with my SO/sleep/eat.

For the sake of my own mental health, I try really hard not to compare myself to others, causing me to generally avoid other Pre-Med students, but I don't like thinking about what I am up against in the applicant pool. I can't avoid these people talking about it every week right now because I need the Physics help. At least there is two weeks left of school (one week of classes and one week of finals).

Thank you for listening!
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I struggled HARD with physics. That and O Chem were the BANE OF MY ****ING EXISTENCE
 
Abnerrs said:
I struggled HARD with physics. That and O Chem were the BANE OF MY ****ING EXISTENCE
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I was a Chem major (loooooved Gen chem and analytical chem, don’t judge me) and deeeefinitely dropped that shiz one single day into Orgo 3 💀
My degree still ended up under the Chem umbrella but it was a mix of chem and bio and a much better choice 😂
 
SkiOtter said:
I was a Chem major (loooooved Gen chem and analytical chem, don’t judge me) and deeeefinitely dropped that shiz one single day into Orgo 3 💀
My degree still ended up under the Chem umbrella but it was a mix of chem and bio and a much better choice 😂
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I actually used to be a Chem major because I liked Gen Chem too. I never took Analytical Chem because I had long jumped ship to Biology and Psychology but I really liked Biochemistry.

Organic Chemistry was THE WORST. I didn't mind the first month but it went downhill from there once we got into mechanisms at around week 5! I am glad most schools don't require O-Chem II anymore because that is 100% of O-Chem II
 
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SkiOtter said:
I was a Chem major (loooooved Gen chem and analytical chem, don’t judge me) and deeeefinitely dropped that shiz one single day into Orgo 3 💀
My degree still ended up under the Chem umbrella but it was a mix of chem and bio and a much better choice 😂
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Lol I only took O Chem because I had to!

Weirdly my undergrad has a program for a batchelors in veterinary medicine even though there's no vet school in the state 🙃
 
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RespectTheChemistry said:
I'm no good at Physics. The concepts are usually fine, but translating them into the math is difficult for me.

For this reason, I spend a lot of my time in the Math & Science free tutoring center.

I know it's a self-selected group of people, but Yikes! The other students who also spend a ton of time there and like to chat are like Pre-Allo in real life. It makes me feel anxious because it reminds me I am being compared to an applicant pool who have seemingly been so ****ing perfect their whole ****ing lives. They like to brag about a life I don't want of having no time for a partner/friends and not taking lunch/dinner breaks or sleeping all night. But, at the same time, the other people are that intense and I am definitely not. I have totally lost points on stuff to get quality time with my SO/sleep/eat.

For the sake of my own mental health, I try really hard not to compare myself to others, causing me to generally avoid other Pre-Med students, but I don't like thinking about what I am up against in the applicant pool. I can't avoid these people talking about it every week right now because I need the Physics help. At least there is two weeks left of school (one week of classes and one week of finals).

Thank you for listening!
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If it makes you feel better, I'm the same way in terms of being more laid-back (so to speak)! There aren't many pre-vet students at my school, so I can't directly compare, but the really hardcore pre-health people I've interacted with have typically been people aiming for human medicine, not animals. One thing that really, REALLY bothers me in general is the culture against getting adequate sleep - sleep is so, SO important for literally every aspect of your physical, mental, and emotional health. What a pity nobody really knows or acknowledges it and the education system pushes us to a wildly unhealthy sleep-deprived state. Imo you should be proud that you actually prioritize getting adequate sleep instead of trying to brag and beat everyone else for "fewest hours slept" - that will pay you off much better in the long term! It might not seem like it now, but in being sure to give yourself much-needed breaks for eating/socializing/sleeping, you're actually showing a work-life balance that will be essential in the long run, especially for medical fields! I'd argue that would be a strength, not a weakness! I wouldn't worry about the applicant pool too terribly much - just get that bag with physics (something I'm worried about myself atm lol), keep your grades up, get your requirements, and keep that healthy work-life balance, and you can even highlight that in your application if you wish! You will be much less likely to have health/stress issues and burnout down the line if you keep taking care of yourself like that 🙂 speaking from personal experience, disregarding everything in life except for studies is a recipe for equivalent academic performance at great cost to wellbeing... not worth the trade
 
ClockworkCat09 said:
If it makes you feel better, I'm the same way in terms of being more laid-back (so to speak)! There aren't many pre-vet students at my school, so I can't directly compare, but the really hardcore pre-health people I've interacted with have typically been people aiming for human medicine, not animals. One thing that really, REALLY bothers me in general is the culture against getting adequate sleep - sleep is so, SO important for literally every aspect of your physical, mental, and emotional health. What a pity nobody really knows or acknowledges it and the education system pushes us to a wildly unhealthy sleep-deprived state. Imo you should be proud that you actually prioritize getting adequate sleep instead of trying to brag and beat everyone else for "fewest hours slept" - that will pay you off much better in the long term! It might not seem like it now, but in being sure to give yourself much-needed breaks for eating/socializing/sleeping, you're actually showing a work-life balance that will be essential in the long run, especially for medical fields! I'd argue that would be a strength, not a weakness! I wouldn't worry about the applicant pool too terribly much - just get that bag with physics (something I'm worried about myself atm lol), keep your grades up, get your requirements, and keep that healthy work-life balance, and you can even highlight that in your application if you wish! You will be much less likely to have health/stress issues and burnout down the line if you keep taking care of yourself like that 🙂 speaking from personal experience, disregarding everything in life except for studies is a recipe for equivalent academic performance at great cost to wellbeing... not worth the trade
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Someone understands! 😍

I am with you too that the anti-sleep culture really gets me. This exact sleep-deprivation competition was had just last week of people bragging they only sleep 2-4 hours a night. Sleep deprivation is bad for learning!

Thank you so much for the encouragement. 🙂 *appreciative hug*
 
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Abnerrs said:
Lol I only took O Chem because I had to!

Weirdly my undergrad has a program for a batchelors in veterinary medicine even though there's no vet school in the state 🙃
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Yeah, orgo 1&2 I definitely did not like but did halfway decent in but then I was incredibly L O S T the first day of orgo 3 🥲
 
RespectTheChemistry said:
Incidentally, @ClockworkCat09, your avatar reminded me...

I work as a nanny. Their cat is a very big, very friendly orange tabby. Their nine-year-old (who is just the sweetest thing) jokingly calls the cat "knockoff Garfield". 😆
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That is so delightful!! I've loved Garfield since being a little kid so I'm definitely gonna get an orange tabby and name him Garfield myself at some point 🤣 "knockoff Garfield" is the funniest thing ever though, I'll have to remember that 🤣
 
RespectTheChemistry said:
I actually used to be a Chem major because I liked Gen Chem too. I never took Analytical Chem because I had long jumped ship to Biology and Psychology but I really liked Biochemistry.

Organic Chemistry was THE WORST. I didn't mind the first month but it went downhill from there once we got into mechanisms at around week 5! I am glad most schools don't require O-Chem II anymore because that is 100% of O-Chem II
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Oh man analytical and Gen Chem were my JAM. I absolutely loved my 400 level analytical class 😂🤓 was honestly my fave class that year 💀
 
At the ER with my old lady cat Nanna, she just got diagnosed with ckd. But the rule outs for this visit are GI foreign body, inflammatory GI diseases, pancreatitis, or neoplasia 😞 was supposed to fly out to visit family today but I'm canceling. Need good thoughts our way 🤍
 
Had my first anesthetic death this evening during an anesthetized wound explore following a dog attack on a 7 month old kitten. 😭

This is following our heater going out 2 weeks ago, my car dying on Thursday, and my Pittie blowing out her knee Thursday evening. We also just placed the deposit on our kitchen remodel and bought the cabinets/floor/counter tops days before this all happened.

I am thankfully off the next 5 days in a row.
 
Just worked five days in row (no other doctor gets scheduled for that long) with me having to stay until 9PM yesterday, by myself, to finish notes because I literally had no time to do any meaningful noting during the day and only had one assistant who also wasn’t able to keep up with notes. Then I proceeded to not go to bed because I had to clean and move things around for an early morning furniture delivery. They wanted me to come in today, on my day off, for frivolous promotional website stuff - yeah, no. I’ll probably catch **** for that.

I’m trying to get Friday off because I badly need a longer break at this point before I ****ing break.
 
If I hear one more announcer at Churchill downs mention, Bob Baffert and say there’s no “star power” because he’s not going to be there with his filly I’m going to lose my mind. The dude was banned by KHRC because he was drugging horses, who cares if the “star” isn’t there. He shouldn’t be there.
 
honeypot999 said:
If I hear one more announcer at Churchill downs mention, Bob Baffert and say there’s no “star power” because he’s not going to be there with his filly I’m going to lose my mind. The dude was banned by KHRC because he was drugging horses, who cares if the “star” isn’t there. He shouldn’t be there.
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Agreed. It was actually SDN Sociopolitical Forum that got me onto all of the horse treatment issues with the Kentucky Derby. It was eye-opening.
 
RespectTheChemistry said:
Agreed. It was actually SDN Sociopolitical Forum that got me onto all of the horse treatment issues with the Kentucky Derby. It was eye-opening.
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Don’t get me wrong I love horse racing and everything to do with it. But we can’t keep praising hall of fame trainers when they break the rules. I’m a major advocate of a centralized governing body for horse racing that isn’t the FTC. I think the HSIA bill lacks teeth and just makes things worse.
 
honeypot999 said:
Don’t get me wrong I love horse racing and everything to do with it. But we can’t keep praising hall of fame trainers when they break the rules. I’m a major advocate of a centralized governing body for horse racing that isn’t the FTC. I think the HSIA bill lacks teeth and just makes things worse.
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In my Master's cohort one person Techs for a regulatory vet. They have two vets for about 1k horses. I don't know how in the world they do anything. It's asking for errors.
 
ClockworkCat09 said:
bro you cannot catch a break 😭😭😭 any security footage that could help??
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I’m in Louisville so derby shenanigans are going on! The owners of the restaurant are out of town. The GM can’t view cameras - only the owner. Been waiting on police for over an HOUR. I’m sure they’re so busy with derby things

Crying real tears lol lol
 
flotus said:
Don’t know if y’all remember my car troubles from before but guess what …

Someone just did a hit and run on this gals car. hell yeah brother B)
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I've had my share of car troubles in the last year (was in an accident a month after my car was the victim of a hit and run, and have had some issues with the replacement car). I really hope these end for you soon. Car troubles are the worst
 
Went to dinner with coworkers which was great. However this random party of people saw our 3L margarita and stopped to comment all fine and dandy except this one b***. Asked if we all lived here and like yeah we do and kept making a point to say how sorry she was we lived here and that she was from Denver. I f*****g hate people like that. Idk why it's a thing that alot of people from up north think were garbage and that they're so much better than us. Thankfully my coworker was like I love where I live and they used to live in a big city. I just had nothing nice to say in the moment and of course am thinking of come backs hours later. Why people gotta be like that? (Not everyone that lives in a big city is like this but there's a particular trend in CO that's been present my whole life and I hate it and don't understand). Enjoy your polluted, crime, transient overran, expensive city a**hole.
Signed your cheaper living, smog free, minimal crime, everyone knows everyone podunk girl
(No offense to those who like metropolitan areas just don't be like her there's no need)🙄
 
To continue my rants🙃 😂 Took my mal mix out paddle boarding. As im working on setting everything up on shore this guy has his lab off leash. Of course my dog is leashed because were working on training and she doesn't listen all the time yet not to mention they should be leashed according to park rules. Of course guy is no where to be found and I have to grab his dog from interacting with mine. He comes around the corner and is of course one of those "oh he's just friendly and wants to play" types. Despite me telling him that's nice but I'd just appreciate if our dogs didn't interact. Guy didnt seem to understand why. Last thing I need to do on sunday is potentially stitch someone up or call my husband cause someone got bit on accident🫠
What are your usual replies for these? I mean overall I think she would behave, she's very good with out mini aussie and mini schnauzer most of the time but as a general rule I hate uncontrolled dogs coming up to mine because there's no way to predict what will happen and control both dogs if someone's off leash.
 
MixedAnimals77 said:
To continue my rants🙃 😂 Took my mal mix out paddle boarding. As im working on setting everything up on shore this guy has his lab off leash. Of course my dog is leashed because were working on training and she doesn't listen all the time yet not to mention they should be leashed according to park rules. Of course guy is no where to be found and I have to grab his dog from interacting with mine. He comes around the corner and is of course one of those "oh he's just friendly and wants to play" types. Despite me telling him that's nice but I'd just appreciate if our dogs didn't interact. Guy didnt seem to understand why. Last thing I need to do on sunday is potentially stitch someone up or call my husband cause someone got bit on accident🫠
What are your usual replies for these? I mean overall I think she would behave, she's very good with out mini aussie and mini schnauzer most of the time but as a general rule I hate uncontrolled dogs coming up to mine because there's no way to predict what will happen and control both dogs if someone's off leash.
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I straight up will tell people my dog is not friendly (even though he is), and explain that leash laws exist and are not a choice. Also no matter how “friendly” your dog is it is still an animal at the end of the day and you cannot 100% predict how it will react in x situation. I’ve had a lot of luck with this because people actually seem to start thinking more when it’s their own animal in danger. I also have a pretty big scar on my leg from a “friendly” off leash husky that I will show them as well.
 
My friend whose going to another vet school was sent a roommate agreement today from the original person living in the house saying all the thing they’re not allowed to do or have in the house, basically saying if the original person pets get sick at all the roommates are responsible for the vet bills, and the cost of replacing the pet if it dies, not allowed people to sleep over, and if they break the agreement at all it’s a $100 fee to each person in the house.
 
honeypot999 said:
My friend whose going to another vet school was sent a roommate agreement today from the original person living in the house saying all the thing they’re not allowed to do or have in the house, basically saying if the original person pets get sick at all the roommates are responsible for the vet bills, and the cost of replacing the pet if it dies, not allowed people to sleep over, and if they break the agreement at all it’s a $100 fee to each person in the house.
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…How can someone else be responsible for their pet getting sick…? Unless they’re feeding the dog stuff? Is that even legally enforceable???
 
MixedAnimals77 said:
To continue my rants🙃 😂 Took my mal mix out paddle boarding. As im working on setting everything up on shore this guy has his lab off leash. Of course my dog is leashed because were working on training and she doesn't listen all the time yet not to mention they should be leashed according to park rules. Of course guy is no where to be found and I have to grab his dog from interacting with mine. He comes around the corner and is of course one of those "oh he's just friendly and wants to play" types. Despite me telling him that's nice but I'd just appreciate if our dogs didn't interact. Guy didnt seem to understand why. Last thing I need to do on sunday is potentially stitch someone up or call my husband cause someone got bit on accident🫠
What are your usual replies for these? I mean overall I think she would behave, she's very good with out mini aussie and mini schnauzer most of the time but as a general rule I hate uncontrolled dogs coming up to mine because there's no way to predict what will happen and control both dogs if someone's off leash.
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I often come across the "Don't worry he's friendly!" people and I also say like @katiemcat that my dog is not friendly. My terrier mix was a reactive mess when I adopted him and he's still not perfect. He used to shriek bark when he saw other dogs outside of our home and would even attempt to bite his leash or me out of frustration. He's a lot better now, but that's because with lots of training we've built trust and I know his triggers. People who let their untrained dogs do whatever at places where dogs are not allowed off leash genuinely upset me - because my dog and I have worked so hard and he should be able to enjoy himself without worrying about his safety.

After I tell people that my dog isn't friendly, I tell them that their dog's behavior is their responsibility. If my dog were to bite their dog and their dog was the one off-leash approaching mine without permission, that's on them. I really emphasize how it could cause a dangerous situation for both the dogs and humans involved. I also tell them that it is incredibly irresponsible and rude of them to allow their dog to greet anyone- some people are afraid of dogs, some people don't like them, some dogs are aggressive, etc. A park with an on-leash rule is for everyone to enjoy, not just the irresponsible owner with the untrained dog. I think mentioning both the safety of their dog + calling out their irresponsibility works. A lot of people are just oblivious

You could also get one of those "Do Not Pet" collars for your dog to help send the message that your dog is in training or aggressive. I use a gentle leader with my terrier and that often makes people think twice about letting their dog come near mine. If I take my dog to a place where a lot of dogs are, I do have him wear a Baskerville muzzle. I don't think he'll bite, but it's not something I'm going to risk
 
katiemcat said:
…How can someone else be responsible for their pet getting sick…? Unless they’re feeding the dog stuff? Is that even legally enforceable???
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I don’t know. My friend said she thought it was implying that if the dog got into food it shouldn’t that they left out for more than a second that it was their fault.
 
puppydogtor said:
I often come across the "Don't worry he's friendly!" people and I also say like @katiemcat that my dog is not friendly. My terrier mix was a reactive mess when I adopted him and he's still not perfect. He used to shriek bark when he saw other dogs outside of our home and would even attempt to bite his leash or me out of frustration. He's a lot better now, but that's because with lots of training we've built trust and I know his triggers. People who let their untrained dogs do whatever at places where dogs are not allowed off leash genuinely upset me - because my dog and I have worked so hard and he should be able to enjoy himself without worrying about his safety.

After I tell people that my dog isn't friendly, I tell them that their dog's behavior is their responsibility. If my dog were to bite their dog and their dog was the one off-leash approaching mine without permission, that's on them. I really emphasize how it could cause a dangerous situation for both the dogs and humans involved. I also tell them that it is incredibly irresponsible and rude of them to allow their dog to greet anyone- some people are afraid of dogs, some people don't like them, some dogs are aggressive, etc. A park with an on-leash rule is for everyone to enjoy, not just the irresponsible owner with the untrained dog. I think mentioning both the safety of their dog + calling out their irresponsibility works. A lot of people are just oblivious

You could also get one of those "Do Not Pet" collars for your dog to help send the message that your dog is in training or aggressive. I use a gentle leader with my terrier and that often makes people think twice about letting their dog come near mine. If I take my dog to a place where a lot of dogs are, I do have him wear a Baskerville muzzle. I don't think he'll bite, but it's not something I'm going to risk
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I completely get you. I’ve done a lot of reactivity training with one of my dogs and I don’t want dogs just approaching him without permission.
 
puppydogtor said:
I use a gentle leader with my terrier and that often makes people think twice about letting their dog come near mine. If I take my dog to a place where a lot of dogs are, I do have him wear a Baskerville muzzle. I don't think he'll bite, but it's not something I'm going to risk
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Tbh even if he wasn’t a potential bite risk, sometimes a muzzle is the only way that idiots will keep their dog away from yours 🙃 some people tell others their dog isn’t friendly and they go “OH DONT WORRY MINE IS”

And how tf does that make a difference if my dog isn’t dog friendly but yours is??????
 
Ginger is very shy. I would go so far as to say she is afraid of other dogs. I don't know why, but she is who she is.

Everyone seems to think their friendly dog will be the one to change this today, even as poor Ginger has her tail between her legs and is trying to hide behind me.
 
RespectTheChemistry said:
Ginger is very shy. I would go so far as to say she is afraid of other dogs. I don't know why, but she is who she is.

Everyone seems to think their friendly dog will be the one to change this today, even as poor Ginger has her tail between her legs and is trying to hide behind me.
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Some dogs are just like this. Whether it's genetics, lack of early socialization, bad early experiences, or a combo of the above, sometimes it just... happens.
And the best way to fix it is a lot of confidence building with friendly dogs that also can keep to themselves and let her go to them on her own time, one on one, as well as teaching her dogs out and about are safe and not going to zoom up and invade her personal space.
My own dog's traumatic experiences in puppyhood weren't with aggressive dogs, but with overly friendly dogs who pounced on her and tried to initiate play while my ten pound potato shrieked in terror. 🙄
 
potentialsheltervet said:
Some dogs are just like this. Whether it's genetics, lack of early socialization, bad early experiences, or a combo of the above, sometimes it just... happens.
And the best way to fix it is a lot of confidence building with friendly dogs that also can keep to themselves and let her go to them on her own time, one on one, as well as teaching her dogs out and about are safe and not going to zoom up and invade her personal space.
My own dog's traumatic experiences in puppyhood weren't with aggressive dogs, but with overly friendly dogs who pounced on her and tried to initiate play while my ten pound potato shrieked in terror. 🙄
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Thank you! 🙂 (I'm not a vettie, just friendly. 🙂)

It has definitely gotten better since she was a puppy. There was a time when she would try to get me to cross the street when she spotted another leashed dog and owner walking down the sidewalk. When she was a really little puppy (<6 months old), she would try to get me to pick her up too.

Now (she's 6), it isn't *every* dog that causes her to have that intense fear reaction. It's dogs that are too intense and pounce on her that are the problem. It's the same with her where it's over-friendliness and not really aggression.

There was a big dog who lived down the road from us when Ginger was a puppy. He looked just like @Abnerrs's dog. 🙂 He would just sit on the sidewalk when he saw Ginger approach and let her come to him when she was ready. That helped her and stopped her being totally intolerant of other dogs.

That's so cute how you call him/her a potato. 🙂 What kind of dog are they?
 
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