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[turtle36]

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I'm not sure how much your schools say when they describe what counts for an academic letter...my academic letter was from someone whose main role was an advisor within the college my major was in. I wasn't trying to pull a fast one by choosing him, but he technically fit the criteria listed by the schools I applied to and absolutely knew me better than a professor who (for example) taught me for one semester in a room of 200 other students. Is that something that could work?

I believe they specifically asked for a LOR from a professor, so I’m not sure an advisor would count. I am trying to find this information again to confirm but I think most schools had this on their respective VMCAS portals.

 

[MixedAnimals77]

I just can't with my inlaws. Call me grinch, selfish, ungreatful, whatever. Just more needing to vent though I realize it is coming from a good place for them. For reference I wouldn't consider myself a complete minimalist but I hate clutter. My SO and I are also very financially aggressive in making "smart" money moves-very different from my inlaws. They have minimal money and imo spend very irresponsibly.

Every year I say please don't get christmas or birthday presents mainly because I have all the materialistic things I could want and I truly mean it and would rather they save their money. Especially when half the time they can't pay their bills. Regardless every year they get me things most of which are useless/wish they would've asked/ I'm confused why they're even being giving it to us. This year I was hoping would be different and they would focus on the baby coming and just center gifting around that but no silly me.

Examples of what we got this year-sling sticky sloths that you throw at windows for me and my so to play with. A camping snuggie meant for me which tbh is an oversized hoodie that my husband can wear (he's like a 2xlt and I'm a m-lg). A giant world map to hang-where idk i dont have that much empty wall space for something that large. They had asked if we had a baby gate I said no but I've got one listed on the registry because the top of our stairs can't have just a regular baby gate. So for my surgery they got us a baby gate to keep the dogs out (spoiler a baby gate isn't going to stop them from coming in the upstairs dog door and I never intended to keep them locked downstairs vs upstairs where all their stuff is) on top of it they bought a regular one and not the one on the registry so we can't even use it despite having that previous conversation. They also sent us with a box of saltine crackers and a whole thing of pancake mix for my husband-like why? I just bought a whole box of saltines and I'm the only one who eats them so it takes me forever to go through them and we rarely get to make breakfast together. Oh and a thing of adult diapers for me post op knee sx despite me telling them no i wont need those before they went and bought them anyway...

To top it all off idk if my mother inlaw is going through depression, loneliness or what but she's been super needy recently calling like every few days and wanting to visit to "tend to us". Always saying I'm super in some way shape or form for going through this sx and going back to work and being pregnant and I'm just like it's life, gotta do what you gotta do 🤷‍♀️

idk I've always had a hard time with my in laws since me and my so got together and just wish they'd actually listen to what we are saying. Thanks for letting me rant to the void.

 

[battie]

Oh and a thing of adult diapers for me post op knee sx despite me telling them no i wont need those before they went and bought them anyway...

Gotta say, keep this for after baby delivery. No one told me about the adult diaper trick for after delivering a baby. Absolutely phenomenal when I figured it out.

 

[MixedAnimals77]

Gotta say, keep this for after baby delivery. No one told me about the adult diaper trick for after delivering a baby. Absolutely phenomenal when I figured it out.

Oh 110% I even told them like hey not now but baby time sure but it all falls on deaf ears

 

[pp9]

I just can't with my inlaws. Call me grinch, selfish, ungreatful, whatever. Just more needing to vent though I realize it is coming from a good place for them. For reference I wouldn't consider myself a complete minimalist but I hate clutter. My SO and I are also very financially aggressive in making "smart" money moves-very different from my inlaws. They have minimal money and imo spend very irresponsibly.

Every year I say please don't get christmas or birthday presents mainly because I have all the materialistic things I could want and I truly mean it and would rather they save their money. Especially when half the time they can't pay their bills. Regardless every year they get me things most of which are useless/wish they would've asked/ I'm confused why they're even being giving it to us. This year I was hoping would be different and they would focus on the baby coming and just center gifting around that but no silly me.

Examples of what we got this year-sling sticky sloths that you throw at windows for me and my so to play with. A camping snuggie meant for me which tbh is an oversized hoodie that my husband can wear (he's like a 2xlt and I'm a m-lg). A giant world map to hang-where idk i dont have that much empty wall space for something that large. They had asked if we had a baby gate I said no but I've got one listed on the registry because the top of our stairs can't have just a regular baby gate. So for my surgery they got us a baby gate to keep the dogs out (spoiler a baby gate isn't going to stop them from coming in the upstairs dog door and I never intended to keep them locked downstairs vs upstairs where all their stuff is) on top of it they bought a regular one and not the one on the registry so we can't even use it despite having that previous conversation. They also sent us with a box of saltine crackers and a whole thing of pancake mix for my husband-like why? I just bought a whole box of saltines and I'm the only one who eats them so it takes me forever to go through them and we rarely get to make breakfast together. Oh and a thing of adult diapers for me post op knee sx despite me telling them no i wont need those before they went and bought them anyway...

Can relate. Among the many issues we have with my MIL, My MIL is a ‘tame’ hoarder and cannot pass up a deal (to the point where it’s gotta be some type of addiction), even if she has no use for the item and plans to let it sit in her house collecting dust for the rest of eternity. She is a full time shopper. We get SO many truly useless clutter items as gifts - we appreciate being thought of, but at the same time we absolutely don’t want one of the 20,000 candles you have, the clearly used duvet you probably got at an estate sale, clothes that are obviously not either of our sizes but you got for 90% off so had to buy it. Their entire garage and basement is essentially a storage facility at this point. His parents are VERY financially comfortable too, so it’s not like she’s hoarding cheap items out of necessity. Interestingly, his sister is also on the same path but leans towards useful items at least (cleaning products, for example). She’s one of the people you see at the store making 10 separate transactions (or going to every location in a 50 mile radius…) to make a very specific deal/coupon hack work.

We make a trip to goodwill after every Christmas and get rid of all of it. We’d be up to our ears in crap if we didn’t. I stopped feeling guilty about donating it all a while back, and she has never once asked ‘where is that ___ that I gave you guys?’ because it’s all useless and meaningless, so she doesn’t even remember what she gave us. I totally love the boxes of cleaning products from his sister, though. We will actually use it all.

My husband is actually clutter-phobic from growing up with his mom’s hoarding. It keeps me honest about my habit of leaving receipts in the basket on our table forever, lol

 

[MixedAnimals77]

Can relate. Among the many issues we have with my MIL, My MIL is a ‘tame’ hoarder and cannot pass up a deal (to the point where it’s gotta be some type of addiction), even if she has no use for the item and plans to let it sit in her house collecting dust for the rest of eternity. She is a full time shopper. We get SO many truly useless clutter items as gifts - we appreciate being thought of, but at the same time we absolutely don’t want one of the 20,000 candles you have, the clearly used duvet you probably got at an estate sale, clothes that are obviously not either of our sizes but you got for 90% off so had to buy it. Their entire garage and basement is essentially a storage facility at this point. His parents are VERY financially comfortable too, so it’s not like she’s hoarding cheap items out of necessity. Interestingly, his sister is also on the same path but leans towards useful items at least (cleaning products, for example). She’s one of the people you see at the store making 10 separate transactions (or going to every location in a 50 mile radius…) to make a very specific deal/coupon hack work.

We make a trip to goodwill after every Christmas and get rid of all of it. We’d be up to our ears in crap if we didn’t. I stopped feeling guilty about donating it all a while back, and she has never once asked ‘where is that ___ that I gave you guys?’ because it’s all useless and meaningless, so she doesn’t even remember what she gave us. I totally love the boxes of cleaning products from his sister, though. We will actually use it all.

My husband is actually clutter-phobic from growing up with his mom’s hoarding. It keeps me honest about my habit of leaving receipts in the basket on our table forever, lol

What's bad is overall their house isn't super cluttered but yes it's a shopping obsession it's always what a deal and I do the same as far as donating. Probably particularly annoyed at this time because decluttering is really hard for me right now given sx and hubs is on overnights making him worthless (love him but if he is on night shift that's all he does and that's fine-i totally get it). And right now my house is just a pile of junk on my counter and kitchen table-I can see it but can't do anything about it right now.🙃
It's like donating or just not getting it is a foreign concept to them

 

[couldhavebeenme]

Whoever said horses can't vomit didn't tell the colic I just dealt with who was spontaneously refluxing out of his nose 😵

 

[Cowsrcool]

Anyone here experienced a completely unsupportive family? Like BEYOND critical and just downright disrespectful and rude about my career choices. My parents cannot fathom that vet school is like a worthy career instead of human medicine, constantly throwing it down my throat that they are clearly interchangeable and I’ve made the wrong choice. I also stopped telling them about rejections and such bc they love to say “well how could you not get in there- it can’t be that hard” 🤪Every time I speak to them it’s a new way for them to try and dissuade me from vet school and to choose a different job. It doesn’t come from a place of concern either, they’ve always been this way and if they perceive something as not if the “highest status” then it’s of no worth to them. Borderline about to drop contact with them in order to preserve my mental health. I’m nothing but a C U Next Tuesday around then because of how lowly I feel. Luckily I have a supportive partner but it weighs on me constantly that I’m somehow disappointing my parents with my dream. 🙃

 

[vampyrica]

Anyone here experienced a completely unsupportive family? Like BEYOND critical and just downright disrespectful and rude about my career choices. My parents cannot fathom that vet school is like a worthy career instead of human medicine, constantly throwing it down my throat that they are clearly interchangeable and I’ve made the wrong choice. I also stopped telling them about rejections and such bc they love to say “well how could you not get in there- it can’t be that hard” 🤪Every time I speak to them it’s a new way for them to try and dissuade me from vet school and to choose a different job. It doesn’t come from a place of concern either, they’ve always been this way and if they perceive something as not if the “highest status” then it’s of no worth to them. Borderline about to drop contact with them in order to preserve my mental health. I’m nothing but a C U Next Tuesday around then because of how lowly I feel. Luckily I have a supportive partner but it weighs on me constantly that I’m somehow disappointing my parents with my dream. 🙃

I relate to this hard. Every time I bring it up I'm met with "you will never be able to pay off your debts, you will beg us for money until we die." I get the human medicine comment constantly....that and "just go get your PhD and go work in academia." I feel you, and I sympathize with you. <3 You are not alone

 

[katiemcat]

Anyone here experienced a completely unsupportive family? Like BEYOND critical and just downright disrespectful and rude about my career choices. My parents cannot fathom that vet school is like a worthy career instead of human medicine, constantly throwing it down my throat that they are clearly interchangeable and I’ve made the wrong choice. I also stopped telling them about rejections and such bc they love to say “well how could you not get in there- it can’t be that hard” 🤪Every time I speak to them it’s a new way for them to try and dissuade me from vet school and to choose a different job. It doesn’t come from a place of concern either, they’ve always been this way and if they perceive something as not if the “highest status” then it’s of no worth to them. Borderline about to drop contact with them in order to preserve my mental health. I’m nothing but a C U Next Tuesday around then because of how lowly I feel. Luckily I have a supportive partner but it weighs on me constantly that I’m somehow disappointing my parents with my dream. 🙃

I get this. My grandma begged me not to go to vet school (even though my uncle is a very very successful veterinarian?) because I wouldn’t have time for “my future husband.” Funny enough, I got married in vet school and my husband is more supportive than most of my family 😂 Their recent bout of questioning all my decisions was to try to convince me not to pursue specialty because “I need to have children while I’m young” and “I can already make good money in GP.” I find it best to set a boundary of not talking about my school life with them.

 

[_rae_]

Swing shifts are brutal, I don't think people realize that until you've worked them. Working until 2 is not late enough to convert to nocturnal living, not early enough to feel good when you try to live in the daylight. And, if you're like me, you'll wake up by 7am after getting home at 2-3 and just lie in bed awake until it's time to leave for your next shift because your sleep schedule is so screwy. Driving was downright dangerous for me when I was on swing shifts.

It makes me feel better that I'm not just being whiny lol. Like I said, it's only 1-2 days a week, but it sure is enough to throw my whole life off.

Oh man but this really depends on the person. I've transitioned to doing more actual overnight shifts and I miss working majority swing - if you leave me to my own devices I'll go to bed at like 2-4am and wake up 10-12pm, so swing shifts are actually *chefs kiss* to my natural sleep schedule.

Does suck to do normal human hours things, though, and I roll my eyes so hard when you can tell people are judging a bit for me "sleeping in" with my bat **** hours.

I think I would do great with swing if I didn't need to be up at 8 for class (nor did I have an early riser for a future spouse. Love of my life but currently 8:30 am is "sleeping in"). My body used to love to sleep from about 3 am - 11 pm. It's currently the "normal" daylight hours I need to keep for school that are causing me problems.

 

[indysadventures]

Anyone here experienced a completely unsupportive family? Like BEYOND critical and just downright disrespectful and rude about my career choices. My parents cannot fathom that vet school is like a worthy career instead of human medicine, constantly throwing it down my throat that they are clearly interchangeable and I’ve made the wrong choice. I also stopped telling them about rejections and such bc they love to say “well how could you not get in there- it can’t be that hard” 🤪Every time I speak to them it’s a new way for them to try and dissuade me from vet school and to choose a different job. It doesn’t come from a place of concern either, they’ve always been this way and if they perceive something as not if the “highest status” then it’s of no worth to them. Borderline about to drop contact with them in order to preserve my mental health. I’m nothing but a C U Next Tuesday around then because of how lowly I feel. Luckily I have a supportive partner but it weighs on me constantly that I’m somehow disappointing my parents with my dream. 🙃

I relate to this hard. Every time I bring it up I'm met with "you will never be able to pay off your debts, you will beg us for money until we die." I get the human medicine comment constantly....that and "just go get your PhD and go work in academia." I feel you, and I sympathize with you. <3 You are not alone

I feel these and sending everyone a virtual hug. I struggle with an emotionally-dependent parent who is very unhappy that I’ve gotten into school across the country. She’s taken something that should feel very happy and weighed it down with guilt.

The best advice I’ve ever received from my therapist regarding going to my mom for approval/advice, is: “You wouldn’t go to Home Depot for orange juice, would you? You can walk around there all you want, but you’ll never find what you need.” It helped me realize how much I needed to compartmentalize my mother’s opinions.

I wanted to put this out there if anyone else might need to hear it too. ❤️ My DMs are always open if anyone ever needs to talk!

 

[Cowsrcool]

The best advice I’ve ever received from my therapist regarding going to my mom for approval/advice, is: “You wouldn’t go to Home Depot for orange juice, would you? You can walk around there all you want, but you’ll never find what you need.”

Omg this is the best

 

[Shiloh47]

Damn, I am so sorry to hear many have such difficult families to work with who cannot comprehend the work and dedication that go into just getting into vet school, let alone being a vet! Ugh, that med school comment from parents is beyond annoying. Have they ever spent time around pre-med students? They scare me.
I'm lucky to have my mom as there is literally NO way I would have come this far without her support. I think she is just happy I'm no longer a college dropout working various minimum-wage seasonal gigs lol😅.

It sounds like parents with their own personal unresolved issues/ideologies and selfish tendencies....to all those lacking familial support all of your peers acknowledge the hard work and difficulty in pursuing this!

 

[turtle36]

I feel yall with these toxic, unsupportive families. Vet school was going to let me move out of my overbearing, borderline abusive family. I wont go into too many details, but my dad has been extremely politically radicalized by the incoming president-elect and it has caused major issues, especially during the pandemic. I’ve lived at home since graduating undergrad in 2020 and I’ve never felt more trapped in my life. Paying for rent with my mental/emotional health is making this the most expensive place I’ve lived thus far, and I lived in 3 different apartments before this.

Now that it seems I wont be getting in anywhere the thought of spending anymore time in this house is crushing my soul.

 

[battie]

**** spays. Shout out to all the GPs and shelter doctors that do them all day every day. Literally just had my worst surgery of my life as a doctor, and it was a spay (4 months post-partum, 2 weeks post-heat). I'd rather do a foreign body all day every day

 

[katiemcat]

**** spays. Shout out to all the GPs and shelter doctors that do them all day every day. Literally just had my worst surgery of my life as a doctor, and it was a spay (4 months post-partum, 2 weeks post-heat). I'd rather do a foreign body all day every day

Post-partum spays helped me decide to pursue a non-surgical specialty 😭 Seriously good job though, those are so rough. Maybe as bad as 9/9 obese spays.

 

[DVM882029]

Anyone here experienced a completely unsupportive family? Like BEYOND critical and just downright disrespectful and rude about my career choices. My parents cannot fathom that vet school is like a worthy career instead of human medicine, constantly throwing it down my throat that they are clearly interchangeable and I’ve made the wrong choice. I also stopped telling them about rejections and such bc they love to say “well how could you not get in there- it can’t be that hard” 🤪Every time I speak to them it’s a new way for them to try and dissuade me from vet school and to choose a different job. It doesn’t come from a place of concern either, they’ve always been this way and if they perceive something as not if the “highest status” then it’s of no worth to them. Borderline about to drop contact with them in order to preserve my mental health. I’m nothing but a C U Next Tuesday around then because of how lowly I feel. Luckily I have a supportive partner but it weighs on me constantly that I’m somehow disappointing my parents with my dream. 🙃

My mother literally made a bet to my face when I was 18 that I would never be able to go to college because I wasn't smart enough, dedicated enough, or disciplined enough (She did one semester and dropped out).

 

[es223]

It's so annoying to have graduated in the midst of the SAVE kerfuffle because I applied for SAVE but ofc they won't process applications until after your grace period ends and my grace period didn't end until Nov and now they won't process applications due to the case being stalled in the courts... so they put me onto the standard 10-year plan (to the tune of $1600/month) by default. Just called the servicer to ask to be put in administrative forbearance while SAVE gets figured out and the representative told me I don't need to do that at this point (even tho they keep sending me emails demanding $1600/month). My student loan account is in "unknown status." Why does such a f'd up system have to be made WORSE. And ofc SAVE is going away w/ no hope of saving it and the next 4 years are probably going to be... abysmal in the student loan realm. Idk how long I can afford to be a large animal vet where I live if something doesn't give.

Current first year vet student. Someone, please tell me not to be so freaked out about this.

I didn't know there were so many issues going on when it came to loan repayment. They don't tell you this when you apply to vet school.I regret not doing more research but was assured by many that repayment is attainable.

Of six acceptances, I chose the most affordable program with no hesitation, knowing I will be taking out loans to pay for tuition and COL. I had no prior debt and tried really hard to set myself up to be in the best possible place financially when I graduate. But I probably wouldn't have accepted any seat if I had known there may be a real possibility I wouldn't be able to pay these loans back. Now, here I am, starting my second semester of vet school with somewhere around ~100k in loans for year 1. (Non-resident student, but only for first year).

I expect to graduate with ~200-250k in debt. I knew this from the beginning. I plan to take full advantage of any repayment opportunities such as VMLRP and I had every intention to utilize SAVE or income based repayment plans.

But now, with everything I've found out about others who are struggling because of ongoing legal crap regarding repayment and with this new administration about to take office, who knows what options I will have (because $1600/mo just isn't a very good one).

I guess I am just looking for someone to tell me it's going to be fine.

 

[JaynaAli]

Current first year vet student. Someone, please tell me not to be so freaked out about this.

I didn't know there were so many issues going on when it came to loan repayment. They don't tell you this when you apply to vet school.I regret not doing more research but was assured by many that repayment is attainable.

Of six acceptances, I chose the most affordable program with no hesitation, knowing I will be taking out loans to pay for tuition and COL. I had no prior debt and tried really hard to set myself up to be in the best possible place financially when I graduate. But I probably wouldn't have accepted any seat if I had known there may be a real possibility I wouldn't be able to pay these loans back. Now, here I am, starting my second semester of vet school with somewhere around ~100k in loans for year 1. (Non-resident student, but only for first year).

I expect to graduate with ~200-250k in debt. I knew this from the beginning. I plan to take full advantage of any repayment opportunities such as VMLRP and I had every intention to utilize SAVE or income based repayment plans.

But now, with everything I've found out about others who are struggling because of ongoing legal crap regarding repayment and with this new administration about to take office, who knows what options I will have (because $1600/mo just isn't a very good one).

I guess I am just looking for someone to tell me it's going to be fine.

At least one of the income-driven repayment plans was voted in by congress (IBR), so it is unlikely to go away. The others like PAYE and REPAYE and SAVE were executive orders, which is why they’re on the chopping block with an uncertain future. Even if the others do go away, income-based plans are popular and needed amongst the public, so I’m betting there will likely be something introduced to take their place, or hundreds of thousands of people will be in default because they simply can’t pay. It’s definitely very frustrating for those who are caught up in the administrative mess while this gets sorted out, but you’ve got 3 years until graduation and hopefully the court stuff will be sorted out well before then. You’ve done what you can at this point to minimize your debt by going to your cheapest school. In the first Trump presidency he proposed (but congress did not pass) an income based plan and while it definitely wasn’t as positive/good for borrowers as SAVE. Things could certainly be different in round two, but hopefully that previous proposal shows that he won’t fully axe all the income based options or congress will pass new ones and there’ll still be an option. We just have to wait and see what happens and adapt as we know more.

Also, all of the student loan servicers suck, even before all this SAVE drama. Some notoriously suck more than others. One of the better ones went away a couple years ago.

 

[keimeko]

Anyone here experienced a completely unsupportive family? Like BEYOND critical and just downright disrespectful and rude about my career choices. My parents cannot fathom that vet school is like a worthy career instead of human medicine, constantly throwing it down my throat that they are clearly interchangeable and I’ve made the wrong choice. I also stopped telling them about rejections and such bc they love to say “well how could you not get in there- it can’t be that hard” Every time I speak to them it’s a new way for them to try and dissuade me from vet school and to choose a different job. It doesn’t come from a place of concern either, they’ve always been this way and if they perceive something as not if the “highest status” then it’s of no worth to them. Borderline about to drop contact with them in order to preserve my mental health. I’m nothing but a C U Next Tuesday around then because of how lowly I feel. Luckily I have a supportive partner but it weighs on me constantly that I’m somehow disappointing my parents with my dream.

Hugs to you… don’t try to please those who can’t be pleased.


My parents forced me to be a pharmacist. I was dragged out of visual arts school in 11th grade to do early admission to finish my pre-reqs at the end of 12th grade to apply to pharmacy school immediately. Animals were seen as inferior and beneath humans. They did not even want me to work in a hospital, they just want me to work as a CVS pharmacist to make money right away and pay for their retirement. As an only child in an extremely suffocating Asian family, I did everything they wanted out of honor and respect. We aren’t rich so I had to take out that 80k loan. I’m 23 years old now, graduating with my PharmD in 5 months now.
I told them I did what they wanted, but I just want to live my life now so I’ll be reapplying as a DVM.
As a result, I’m getting kicked out after graduation since I’m trying to work with “inferior and dirty creatures” who “can’t pay me money”. They have been mocking and laughing at my rejections saying not even the animals want me. I’m so behind everyone else because I spent my life trying to please my parents.

Don’t try to force yourself to please others.
Do what you want. I believe eventually hopefully they’ll see that they were wrong. I wish I stood up for myself earlier though.

 

[lizardman]

turns out the next step in vet school imposter syndrome is ‘oh god i don’t have what it takes to actually be a doctor, someone made a mistake’ imposter syndrome

this spiral brought to you by non school affiliated org I worked with for a day that threw me in as the doctor that prescribed, spoke to clients, did a PE, etc as a first year for wellness appointments (which. def were not solely wellness, y’all know how that goes) and then just had my work half-checked by a too-busy DVM that was the “real doctor” on paper; I think I did alright considering and actually loved engaging with clients again but someone else there went off on me the whole time about how i wasn’t good enough and she felt like she had to hover over me for my appointments bc i wasn’t ‘following the system’ (it was my first time at this org and they had no written SOPs to ref while speaking to clients, I have no idea how or what they expected me to know and she really didn’t offer help at all other than huffing at me so i have no idea what she was on about but it got me anyway because i was #overwhelmed)

 

[genny]

turns out the next step in vet school imposter syndrome is ‘oh god i don’t have what it takes to actually be a doctor, someone made a mistake’ imposter syndrome

Sounds like the only mistake made was working for a group that undermined your confidence instead of building you up. Of course you’re not ready to act as a doctor first year. That’s what school is for. And experiences that get you exposure, while also providing a good safety net.

 

[lizardman]

Sounds like the only mistake made was working for a group that undermined your confidence instead of building you up. Of course you’re not ready to act as a doctor first year. That’s what school is for. And experiences that get you exposure, while also providing a good safety net.

Thank you for saying that. I had no idea I’d get tossed into that role and was anticipating being more of an assistant/discussing cases at most— I doubt I would’ve participated at all if I had known. Aside from my own professional development, the structure just wasn’t acceptable medicine imo

 

[Kodiak-Bear]

Just learned my house burned down in the palisades fire as well as my whole hometown. and apparently they briefly ran out of water? wtf???

 

[Tech_Penguin]

I love how people judge me for participating in lab animal testing bc it’s “unnecessary with the advances in science,” yet proceed to eat a Big Mac during their lunch break

 

[couldhavebeenme]

I'm giving my notice this week. This job is causing me enough distress that my watch gives me heart rate alerts when I talk to my boss. I don't have a new job lined up yet but now I will have time to go visit some different places and find something that doesn't make me cry every night when I get home or make me want to lie down in traffic. After all those years of school, I want to WANT to be a vet.

 

[SkiOtter]

I'm giving my notice this week. This job is causing me enough distress that my watch gives me heart rate alerts when I talk to my boss. I don't have a new job lined up yet but now I will have time to go visit some different places and find something that doesn't make me cry every night when I get home or make me want to lie down in traffic. After all those years of school, I want to WANT to be a vet.

Sending hugs🩷🩷🩷🩷 I’m at my second clinic and left early January 2023 after being there for only 4 months. My second clinic has been a LOT better and less stressful for me. I had a few panic attacks at my previous job, so I definitely hear you. I’m also now on 2 anxiety meds and that has also been helping me immensely so that’s definitely something to consider if you’re not already on medications. I never really thought I *needed* them because I functioned fine, but let me tell you, it has been life changing for me. My anxiety is still there, but at a significantly lower level than it has ever been.

 

[_rae_]

I'm so effing angry with myself right now. We waited to get married until 2025 so my spouse's income only affected my last year of school. I procrastinated filling out the FAFSA not thinking it would matter because we *weren't married* in 2023. I even checked with my school's free financial advisor (who actually works for a financial institution and not the school). Now, after filling it out, I realize it takes into account current marital status. I got married on 1/15/25 and just filled the dang thing out today. If I had just filled it out a week sooner this wouldn't have been an issue.

If I lose my HPSL I'm going to cry. We waited, at expert advice, and I screwed it up. I don't even know what to do right now.

 

[sassysamoyed]

I got accepted to vet school (yay!) but my final semester is rough. I have one class for my chem minor that is absolutely brutal. If I were to drop it, would there be a chance of vet school rescinding my offer? It is not a pre-req.

 

[indysadventures]

I got accepted to vet school (yay!) but my final semester is rough. I have one class for my chem minor that is absolutely brutal. If I were to drop it, would there be a chance of vet school rescinding my offer? It is not a pre-req.

I dropped Ochem 2 because the schools I’ve been accepted to don’t require it. It was only a planned course due to one or two schools requiring this- I’ve rescinded applications from these schools. As far as I’m aware, as long as it’s not a prerequisite at a school, there’s no need to contact them if you change/drop/add planned courses.

 

[DVM882029]

I'm horrified. I hate it here. I am awaiting final decisions from the only school I applied to. I'm simultaneously anxious and excited while being terrified to spend four more years here but also realize that IS tuition is going to be a lifeline. I'm frightened and disheartened and shocked at the ignorance running rampant.

 

[oweue]

this executive order is terrifying as a trans person. I wish I applied to international schools, but if I went anywhere other than Canada I’d have to leave all my ferrets behind which is heartbreaking and half of them are above the age of seven… feeling so lost and no clue what to do. I considered applying to Canadian schools this upcoming cycle but likely a waste of money with them only having a few international seats

 

[DVM882029]

this executive order is terrifying as a trans person. I wish I applied to international schools, but if I went anywhere other than Canada I’d have to leave all my ferrets behind which is heartbreaking and half of them are above the age of seven… feeling so lost and no clue what to do. I considered applying to Canadian schools this upcoming cycle but likely a waste of money with them only having a few international seats

I'm sorry you're going through this <3 I'm sorry that this country has descended into the bowels of h - e - double hockey sticks and is letting hatred run rampant. It's deplorable. Have faith that vet schools are typically in blue areas, and allies are out there for you even in the reddest of states.

 

[_rae_]

this executive order is terrifying as a trans person. I wish I applied to international schools, but if I went anywhere other than Canada I’d have to leave all my ferrets behind which is heartbreaking and half of them are above the age of seven… feeling so lost and no clue what to do. I considered applying to Canadian schools this upcoming cycle but likely a waste of money with them only having a few international seats

There's a part of me that is deeply regretting not accepting my seat in Canada last year. Even with the visa complications, I can't help but think I wouldn't be so worried about my (trans) spouse's and my safety. I had good luck applying to UPEI; I think they have the most international seats, though both Geulph and UPEI have moved to using the CASPer assessment and have high deposits which are significant changes from when I applied.

A reminder: there has never been a world in which trans people do not exist, and there never will be. Queer people have persisted through every single thing before, and we will persist through every single thing to come.

 

[RespectTheChemistry]

I am so stressed out.

I had a family emergency on Saturday.

Today is the anniversary of a death of a family member.

I went to REI this morning and got my hormone levels tested to find out why I can't stay pregnant. I found out why I can't seem to get and stay pregnant, which was low progesterone levels. Progesterone shots really sting. I feel hopeful that I have some answers for something to help me actually get a living child. But, ouch!

I have a bunch of things wrong with my hip that may need surgery sooner rather than later. I don't have paid leave and would be without money for as long as I can't work, so I am financially panicking.

My kidney has also started hurting again. I have some backwash and one kidney gets swollen. I get a little hypertensive from it too. I am seeing Urology on Friday, but they won't start BP meds I don't think, so I have to see my PCP as well.

I am so ****ing sick of this: all of the appointments taking up all my time that I have much better uses for.

Now that I am going to have to go back to work tomorrow, I am now through the crisis enough to notice the massive onslaught of work that needs to be done and should have already gotten done this weekend. I have no idea how I am going to do it all, especially because I still feel so tense and like I am too stressed to concentrate.

 

[taurusdoc]

This is me airing my grievances and then flipping my switch back to its hopeful side.
Up until now I have been the person that tries to stay positive about disappointing news during the application cycle and I do not think I have fully taken a moment to let my own anger and stress leave my body; this is my moment to do that. I am so sorry if this comes across as judgmental or mean; I promise I just need to let it out and then I will be good as new.

I am surrounded by a community of pre-vet students (both in and out of my undergrad network). I love these people so dearly and I pride myself in being their cheerleader as they embark on the same journey that we are all currently on. We all try to keep in mind that there is no "perfect" veterinary school applicant and that part of being a well rounded incoming student includes having weak areas. Nobody can be perfect in every category, and each school seeks out different qualities in their incoming classes. Some care more about the numbers and test scores. Some care more about diversity of vet experiences. Some care more about who you are outside of the veterinary world. Thus, there is no "correct" way to present yourself to the VMCAS application nor veterinary school as a whole. Lastly, there is no use in comparing ourselves amongst each other for all of the reasons stated above and then some.

That being said...

I am so frustrated and angry and sad and tired of seeing people with lower GPAs, less experience, etc. get accepted or get interviews when I have not. It is so strangely degrading. I have a 3.91 cumulative, 3.92 science, and 4.00 last 45. I have thousands upon thousands of hours working with animals (exotic, avian, small animal, etc.) in and out of veterinary settings. I have over 400 hours of CE with upwards of 15 certificates in various areas of the animal care world. I reviewed each of my written supplements for this cycle with peer tutors, professional tutors, and DVMs that graduated from my top school (who wrote letters of rec on my behalf). I sought out feedback from every reputable source that I could think of. The mentors that I have spoken to told me that I was in such a good spot and would have nothing to worry about in terms of getting in.

Yet I have been waitlisted for interviews at two schools and rejected from the other two. I am so confused and frustrated.

I am frustrated because I have this incredible community around me and I don't know how my peers with less traditionally or holistically competitive applications are getting interview invites and I am not. I am confused because I sought out so much criticism and received minimal constructive feedback and endless reassurance that I would be a stellar applicant. I am so angry and confused and I am frustrated with myself for even feeling those emotions towards people I care for so deeply.

Anyways, that's my final thought. I am sorry for the explosion here and feel free to respond with anything remotely encouraging or at least slightly sunshine-y.

 

[MixedAnimals77]

I'm going to flip my lid on my inlaws and it's not going to be pretty. MIL texted yesterday asking for weekly call. Said we will call next weekend. We are both sick. Said be better.-great

She freaking calls me tonight so I answer thinking it's something important since she knows we are sick. No it's calling to see how we are. I get it's supposed to be nice but I literally said when we would call because we don't want to talk when I don't have much of a voice.

Had talked to my therapist about my feels with them about other things and it's literally because they don't listen to what we are actually saying.
#rantover thanks for listening.😡

 

[overcastkidjuno]

Car randomly stopped working out of nowhere and making horrifying popping sounds, got a mechanic friend to come tow it and she said based on symptoms it seems like it's either a transmission or a drive shaft issue. Terrified in the interim because a transmission repair/replacement would be LUDICROUSLY expensive. She said it may be that a part froze & popped out (we dropped from 0C to -28 in a single day), which would be a much cheaper & easier repair so I am crossing my fingers, but not feeling good about it... Car is getting up there in age & *** now (2012 Honda Accord, 260k) but it's given me absolutely no trouble in the past so I had been hoping it would last me through vet school. Both my boyfriend & brother had to get new (used) cars in the fall, & what a nightmare that was! Finding something that is functional without needing serious work seems impossible, so I'm reaaaally hoping for a repair on this one that doesn't cost more than the car is worth.

 

[honeypot999]

Nothing pisses me off more than when schools just randomly throw together their large animal curriculum. I want to actually learn and not listen to a practitioner randomly talk about all his stories. Yes there is some benefit to it, but it’s not the way to learn for clinicals and the NAVLE

 

[_rae_]

If I lose my HPSL I'm going to cry. We waited, at expert advice, and I screwed it up. I don't even know what to do right now.

Update: my SAI with my parent's income last year was 8373. With my spouse's this year it's 21750, despite the fact that I don't have a full time job right now and neither does the spouse. Talking to the school Monday to see if there's any way to prove our financial situation is worse and that SAI is FAR from accurate.

I hate the the fed 🤣😢

 

[JaynaAli]

Talking to the school Monday…

It’s certainly worth talking to them and losing the better rates from the HPSL would suck, especially for such a trivial reason, but you should still be offered the total COA in direct and gradplus loans. Those aren’t as ideal as HPSL so I get it, but I believe you’ll have other options if the HPSL is reduced.

 

[_rae_]

It’s certainly worth talking to them and losing the better rates from the HPSL would suck, especially for such a trivial reason, but you should still be offered the total COA in direct and gradplus loans. Those aren’t as ideal as HPSL so I get it, but I believe you’ll have other options if the HPSL is reduced.

Yeah, my hope is that the one time $15000 scholarship they offered me this year that’s going away next year will help balance it out. I’m just annoyed by this whole process right now since we thought waiting to get married would preserve my HPSL eligibility.

 

[battie]

Oh so petty rant.

I ordered Onyx Storm *forever ago* from Barnes and Noble. My delivery date has gone from 1/23 by 7pm to Monday by 7pm in the span of the last 24 hours. And I'm livid.

Edit: B&N tracking shows Monday. But USPS's website actually shows tomorrow. Fingers crossed for me. @cdo96 has already memorized the book and is being gracious in not spoiling.

 

[Jess Monster]

I just submitted materials regarding a board complaint. It was a toxicity case that became a traumatic experience for all involved six months ago. Now I have to wait probably six more months to hear anything back when the whole complaint can be resolved in less than two minutes with a calculator and a drug formulary.

 

[justachillgirl]

I know this is way off topic, but I am so incredibly anxious and depressed I haven't received a single good news that I might get in vet school this coming fall 2025. I know I want to be a. vet but it is incredibly hard to not feel worthless compared to so many threads of people having numerous options. I cant even concentrate on anything else, just constantly thinking about the same thing again and again.


PS this will be my rant bc I cant afford a psychologist right now thank you; im okay guys lol just needed to rant to let out my subconscious worries

 

[RespectTheChemistry]

I know this is way off topic, but I am so incredibly anxious and depressed I haven't received a single good news that I might get in vet school this coming fall 2025. I know I want to be a. vet but it is incredibly hard to not feel worthless compared to so many threads of people having numerous options. I cant even concentrate on anything else, just constantly thinking about the same thing again and again.


PS this will be my rant bc I cant afford a psychologist right now thank you

Are you enrolled in school? They have free or low-cost counseling services.

I don't want to be too forward, but have you considered taking a step back to think about your values and focus on other things that are important to you such as family/friends/pets/hobbies? Sometimes it can help to focus on the other parts of you outside of being a pre-vet.

Additionally, for me, I have known that it's time to take a little break from SDN or Reddit when getting into professional school seems all consuming. (You are certainly always welcome. I don't want you to feel like I am kicking you out. I just know that sometimes being bombarded with Internet content can be hard.)

You are a whole person with intrinsic value as a human being and not just a pre-vet.

 

[justachillgirl]

Are you enrolled in school? They have free or low-cost counseling services.

I don't want to be too forward, but have you considered taking a step back to think about your values and focus on other things that are important to you such as family/friends/pets/hobbies? Sometimes it can help to focus on the other parts of you outside of being a pre-vet.

Additionally, for me, I have known that it's time to take a little break from SDN or Reddit when getting into professional school seems all consuming. (You are certainly always welcome. I don't want you to feel like I am kicking you out. I just know that sometimes being bombarded with Internet content can be hard.)

You are a whole person with intrinsic value as a human being and not just a pre-vet.

thank you for your advice! yeah I am currently in school, weirdly enough I know it may sound crazy but my uni does not offer counseling services at the moment. Im okay though, I am involved in other things and trying to take my mind off the wait.

SDN totally makes it worse though. anyway, im grateful for this community always

 

[fauna]

I am so incredibly anxious and depressed I haven't received a single good news that I might get in vet school this coming fall 2025. I know I want to be a. vet but it is incredibly hard to not feel worthless compared to so many threads of people having numerous options. I cant even concentrate on anything else, just constantly thinking about the same thing again and again.

I am with you, friend. It is my second application cycle, so I am living proof that it will be okay even if you don't get in! (Since you said you're still in school, I presume it's your first cycle but please forgive me if I am wrong) I honestly have really enjoyed the year I spent between cycles, the full-time experience was really good for me. A break from school was awesome, not gonna lie. Butttt, I don't want to do it again. So, I am also feeling that anxiety and at this point, obsession.
To rant a little for myself, so definitely skip the rest of this post if you need to, I don't wanna pile on haha. one point of contention for applying for a third cycle is having to ask for letters again. Like cool, being out of school for two years and trying to get that professor to write me a letter is super awkward. Plus, having to ask a doctor for a third time.. yikes. I could find new doctors to write for me, I suppose, but like where do I find a new professor? That's one anxiety I have been holding onto for a while. The other thing is.. I just want to start my life. I cannot afford to live as a veterinary assistant, at least not for right now. I am living with family now which I feel fortunate to do but it has felt like this huge step backwards in my life because I was on my own during undergrad thanks to scholarships/some student loans/part-time work. Many of my friends are making those big steps in life and I feel stuck, or even backwards. I just don't want to go through this for a third time, I need this time to work out, fortunately I have just a few more schools I am waiting on.
That said, that's why I do like SDN. It is kind of an isolating experience to go through this, I don't know anyone pre-vet IRL (honestly didn't vibe with my pre-vet club because it just felt competitive). It is nice to get advice or insight from others, orrr just commiserate every now and again. But, you gotta know when to unplug and I, myself, am struggling with that. But, we can do it! I think I will try to actually read a book this evening haha.

 

[oweue]

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I am with you, friend. It is my second application cycle, so I am living proof that it will be okay even if you don't get in! (Since you said you're still in school, I presume it's your first cycle but please forgive me if I am wrong) I honestly have really enjoyed the year I spent between cycles, the full-time experience was really good for me. A break from school was awesome, not gonna lie. Butttt, I don't want to do it again. So, I am also feeling that anxiety and at this point, obsession.
To rant a little for myself, so definitely skip the rest of this post if you need to, I don't wanna pile on haha. one point of contention for applying for a third cycle is having to ask for letters again. Like cool, being out of school for two years and trying to get that professor to write me a letter is super awkward. Plus, having to ask a doctor for a third time.. yikes. I could find new doctors to write for me, I suppose, but like where do I find a new professor? That's one anxiety I have been holding onto for a while. The other thing is.. I just want to start my life. I cannot afford to live as a veterinary assistant, at least not for right now. I am living with family now which I feel fortunate to do but it has felt like this huge step backwards in my life because I was on my own during undergrad thanks to scholarships/some student loans/part-time work. Many of my friends are making those big steps in life and I feel stuck, or even backwards. I just don't want to go through this for a third time, I need this time to work out, fortunately I have just a few more schools I am waiting on.
That said, that's why I do like SDN. It is kind of an isolating experience to go through this, I don't know anyone pre-vet IRL (honestly didn't vibe with my pre-vet club because it just felt competitive). It is nice to get advice or insight from others, orrr just commiserate every now and again. But, you gotta know when to unplug and I, myself, am struggling with that. But, we can do it! I think I will try to actually read a book this evening haha.

on my second cycle I completely agree. I feel so much embarrassment sending that email saying hey I didn’t get in this time, I’d love to get another letter later this year. this cycle isn’t going well so likely a third cycle in my future after a year of retaking courses. it’s probably my least favorite thing.