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[pp9]

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As the second oldest (and one of the middle children) in a set of 4, I have 3 sisters, yeah middle child syndrome is still very real.

I’m the middle of three girls and while it’s a joke to some, I agree that it’s very, very real. I laughed (but also maybe cried internally) when the ‘middle child’ reels were lol over Instagram a while back. Painfully accurate.

 

[SARdoghandler]

I'm so ready for us to go Canada's route where no landlord can prohibit pets.

I'm not sure what you're referring to here but I assure you there are many, many landlords who prohibit pets here in Canada. Can't speak to Ontario and pet fees as I've never lived there specifically but here in Nova Scotia pet fees are very much a thing in pet friendly rentals. Also in Alberta where I rented previously. We may have advantages in other ways but I don't think we're significantly pet friendlier than the US

 

[_rae_]

I'm not sure what you're referring to here but I assure you there are many, many landlords who prohibit pets here in Canada.

Bummer, a slightly more in depth google search says this is Ontario exclusive.

Ugh, I can dream. Finding housing when we have just cats is easier than when we had a rabbit, but it’s still not easy. I want a dog so bad but can’t justify it with pet fees and difficulty in finding housing. Maybe one day.

 

[KCgophervet]

My house was much much cleaner with 5 pets than it is now with 3 kids and 3 pets...

Though I think my house is cleaner with 3 kids and 3 pets (1 being a dog) than my sisters house is with 3 kids and no pets (because the dog cleans the floor...)

 

[pp9]

Bummer, a slightly more in depth google search says this is Ontario exclusive.

Ugh, I can dream. Finding housing when we have just cats is easier than when we had a rabbit, but it’s still not easy. I want a dog so bad but can’t justify it with pet fees and difficulty in finding housing. Maybe one day.

I've been surprised how at many apartments/rental homes have had issues with my rabbit over the years! Never understood that one, especially if they allow other caged 'chewing' species.

I've gotten to the point where I hope maintenance crews don't give two craps about him/more than two pets, and they never have they probably don't get paid well enough to care.

 

[battie]

Husband is the middle of three boys (6.5 years younger and older than his sibs). The middle child syndrome is super real. I definitely feel like he was the forgotten child out of the three. Not a huge amount of resentment any more. But man, when we were in our teens and early twenties, their relationship was not great.

 

[couldhavebeenme]

It's me again... I've been at this job since July and still don't have a defined on-call schedule for the weekends. Cut to today, I'm not working... I'm in Target buying a mop to clean up the cat diarrhea apocalypse currently happening in my apartment... it's 1:30 pm and I happen to see I have an email from the after-hours phone service - guess what! The powers that be decided I'm on-call this weekend.... they didn't think they needed to give me a heads-up about that though! So they switched the phone to divert incoming calls to my on-call phone (which... I don't even have with me due to not knowing I was to be on-call), only saw this bc I happened to see I had a gmail notification.

This place is............ I'm losing my mind.

 

[battie]

This place is......

Time for a new job

 

[Tech_Penguin]

My dog is getting surgery tomorrow to remove a tumor (for the second time a year after the first one was removed!). So, don't get a lab lol

 

[battie]

My dog is getting surgery tomorrow to remove a tumor (for the second time a year after the first one was removed!). So, don't get a lab lol

I'm a Golden and Pittie mom. I feel you. I hope the mass is benign ❤️

 

[shibascream]

Can I say I dislike how VMCAS calculates GPA differently than my undergrad school and that my grad school courses apparently don't mean much??? My undergrad university didn't count transfer courses into my GPA so I graduated with a 3.4 but VMCAS counts them and it brings it down to a 3.33 so I've gotten rejections based on that. Meanwhile, I've maintained a 4.0 in my current master's program but that for some reason does count?? Is there a logic to this that I am missing?

 

[SkiOtter]

Can I say I dislike how VMCAS calculates GPA differently than my undergrad school and that my grad school courses apparently don't mean much??? My undergrad university didn't count transfer courses into my GPA so I graduated with a 3.4 but VMCAS counts them and it brings it down to a 3.33 so I've gotten rejections based on that.

VMCAS is going to calculate every undergrad course you’ve taken for your GPA. They are looking at your overall GPA, not just your main university undergrad GPA. It is not wrong of them to count all your courses in your GPA because what’s stopping someone from taking a bunch of classes at different colleges and only easy ones at their main university and getting a 4.0 that way?

 

[DVM882029]

Can I say I dislike how VMCAS calculates GPA differently than my undergrad school and that my grad school courses apparently don't mean much??? My undergrad university didn't count transfer courses into my GPA so I graduated with a 3.4 but VMCAS counts them and it brings it down to a 3.33 so I've gotten rejections based on that. Meanwhile, I've maintained a 4.0 in my current master's program but that for some reason does count?? Is there a logic to this that I am missing?

Grad school will probably factor in more for your last 45 credit hour +/- science and math pre reqs.

 

[thenontraveler]

Can I say I dislike how VMCAS calculates GPA differently than my undergrad school and that my grad school courses apparently don't mean much??? My undergrad university didn't count transfer courses into my GPA so I graduated with a 3.4 but VMCAS counts them and it brings it down to a 3.33 so I've gotten rejections based on that. Meanwhile, I've maintained a 4.0 in my current master's program but that for some reason does count?? Is there a logic to this that I am missing?

Unfortunately some schools also state that they only look at undergraduate courses for GPA and graduate courses don't count. So I would double check what the policy is at the schools you applied to.

 

[pp9]

Can I say I dislike how VMCAS calculates GPA differently than my undergrad school and that my grad school courses apparently don't mean much??? My undergrad university didn't count transfer courses into my GPA so I graduated with a 3.4 but VMCAS counts them and it brings it down to a 3.33 so I've gotten rejections based on that. Meanwhile, I've maintained a 4.0 in my current master's program but that for some reason does count?? Is there a logic to this that I am missing?

Right...so they calculated your cGPA. cGPA does not mean your GPA at a single school in this context, nor should it. That's why you report all courses taken and provide transcripts for every institution you've attended.

Graduate courses are an entirely different beast. If you have a master's degree (or higher), it is critically important that you understand how each individual school takes those credits into consideration. They can be so different that it almost doesn't matter what VMCAS does with your graduate credits. Some schools will use your graduate GPA in place of your last 45, some will only take 8 credit hours, some apply it to your GPAs differently, etc.

VMCAS may calculate GPAs based off of transcripts, but individual schools often do their own calculations and can come up with very different numbers. This is one of the many reasons why the wait between the VMCAS due date and initial communications from schools is so long...a lot of this is done by hand (or at least manually entering numbers into a computer/calculator).

 

[honeypot999]

Ever since California declared a state of emergency over H5N1 people on the internet have done nothing but fear monger about it. I swear people don’t understand that the risk to the general public is low because they aren’t coming into contact with sick animals or unpasteurized milk.

They’re freaking out because Louisiana had one “severe” case of H5N1 which the person contracted from contact with their sick backyard flock, and are over 65 with comorbidites. Plus the 50% death rate they are citing in every single post is mainly from the western pacific region yet forgetting most people don’t even know they have avian influenza or if they did it isn’t reported as such because it looks like pink eye or an upper respiratory illness.

 

[DVM882029]

Ever since California declared a state of emergency over H5N1 people on the internet have done nothing but fear monger about it. I swear people don’t understand that the risk to the general public is low because they aren’t coming into contact with sick animals or unpasteurized milk.

They’re freaking out because Louisiana had one “severe” case of H5N1 which the person contracted from contact with their sick backyard flock, and are over 65 with comorbidites. Plus the 50% death rate they are citing in every single post is mainly from the western pacific region yet forgetting most people don’t even know they have avian influenza or if they did it isn’t reported as such because it looks like pink eye or an upper respiratory illness.

Step 1: Panic
Step 2: Avoid recommendations by healthcare professionals
Step 3: Express disdain for health protocols
Step 4: Ignore health protocols and say it's not that bad / we've been through outbreaks before
Step 5: (optional, suboptimal) Society descends into The Walking Dead / The Last Of Us / 28 Days Later

 

[Trilt]

Step 1: Panic
Step 2: Avoid recommendations by healthcare professionals
Step 3: Express disdain for health protocols
Step 4: Ignore health protocols and say it's not that bad / we've been through outbreaks before
Step 5: (optional, suboptimal) Society descends into The Walking Dead / The Last Of Us / 28 Days Later

✨ suboptimal ✨

 

[couldhavebeenme]

Step 1: Panic
Step 2: Avoid recommendations by healthcare professionals
Step 3: Express disdain for health protocols
Step 4: Ignore health protocols and say it's not that bad / we've been through outbreaks before
Step 5: (optional, suboptimal) Society descends into The Walking Dead / The Last Of Us / 28 Days Later

I think I've seen this film before...

 

[honeypot999]

Todays fear mongering from the internet: The FDA letter to veterinarians about Líbrela.

Maybe I should just turn off my phone 🫠

 

[battie]

The Walking Dead / The Last Of Us / 28 Days Later

I have such an irrational, intrinsic fear of the zombie apocalypse. I love The Last of Us, but I know if I play Part 2, I won't sleep well for weeks

 

[DVM882029]

I think I've seen this film before...

And, unlike the Eras Tour, I did NOT like the ending. Pandemics are not my homeland anymore (actually they might continue to be lol)

 

[DVM882029]

I have such an irrational, intrinsic fear of the zombie apocalypse. I love The Last of Us, but I know if I play Part 2, I won't sleep well for weeks

Much like how I always type in "thank you" to Chat GPT, I don't eat mushrooms. When the fungus rises up, I'll be an ally.

 

[Cowsrcool]

Much like how I always type in "thank you" to Chat GPT, I don't eat mushrooms. When the fungus rises up, I'll be an ally.

I’m glad someone else does this with chat.. I also always say please 😭😭

 

[_rae_]

I hate working nights. I’m not even really working nights, which maybe is the problem. I work until 1 or 2 on Fridays and every other Saturday which when I’m trying to maintain a daylight schedule for my fiancé and for school feels exhausting. But it’s how I pay for the car I unexpectedly had to buy and managed to not take out a single grad plus loan so it’s a means to an end I suppose.

 

[DVM882029]

I had a molar extracted yesterday due to a tooth root abscess and tooth root fracture. They did a bone graft and an implant as well then I go back a few more times the next few months to finish the process. The entire thing was horrendous. I had to be numbed repeatedly, and it was the most painful thing I've experience dental wise. Plus, the actual procedure was pretty physically brutal and they just sent me right home after. I was bleeding copiously last night, the pain was awful and it took over 3 hours for the on call dentist to phone me back. I was so scared I thought about going to the ER.

(A) I feel like they shouldve kept me for monitoring afterwards - the bleeding began in earnest when I got home.
(B) All dogs and cats and horses and any animal with extractions need better pain management than I received (I think most do already). I have new empathy for the critters.

 

[MixedAnimals77]

I think this exchange between me and a colleague sums up the depressing holiday season we all share as veterinarians

 

[pp9]

Truly exhausted. Committed to no contact with my older sister on Christmas Eve based on some things said. It’s truly been 32 years in the making, but this was the final straw.

Downside is that because this sister moved herself/her kids in with my mom when she left her husband, I can also no longer see or talk to my mom or other sister (who also is still at home). If they talk to me or see me, she’ll make their lives a living hell. I get that they need to be able to survive as peacefully as possibly with her in the house, It’s already been bad enough for them with her there. I also am not sure I’m missing out in much, but still.

 

[oweue]

anyone else basically throwing in the towel for this cycle? the schools I have left are FAR reaches for accepting me. I know you ‘only need one yes’ but realistically, I’m not getting a single yes. time to make other plans…

 

[vampyrica]

anyone else basically throwing in the towel for this cycle? the schools I have left are FAR reaches for accepting me. I know you ‘only need one yes’ but realistically, I’m not getting a single yes. time to make other plans…

Who do you have left to hear back from? It's not over until it's over!!

 

[alyssa13]

I'm getting so tired of rejection after rejection. I have one acceptance to St Georges which I am so eternally grateful for an will end up matriculating if all other schools fail, but I don't think I would thrive with the island life (I applied to have a variety in my schools I applied to) especially since I do plan on bringing my cat which is an added difficulty. I got 7 rejections and one OOS alternate this month, I'm waiting to hear back to RVC after my interview but I don't think I did well during my interview so I'm pretty much banking on a rejection 🙁 I have 4 other schools but they're all OOS and out of my reach if I'm being honest - maybe my IS Rowan but I'm not sure if my last letter of rec will be accepted long story hahah. Idk how to get myself out of this funk, I know I should be proud to have one acceptance but all of the rejections are really getting in the way, sorry if I sound ungrateful but I'm mentally spiraling rn 🙁

 

[oweue]

Who do you have left to hear back from? It's not over until it's over!!

UPenn, Wisconsin, Cornell, CSU, and Rowan

 

[SkiOtter]

anyone else basically throwing in the towel for this cycle? the schools I have left are FAR reaches for accepting me. I know you ‘only need one yes’ but realistically, I’m not getting a single yes. time to make other plans…

It definitely sucks to only hear no (and that was me my first round and almost my second as well) but I would definitely recommend continuing to gain experiences (including new ones and in areas you may not have explored or have minimal hours) and make connections to get as strong of letters as possible. Have back up plans for next fall as well, even if it’s just “continue gaining experiences and working and living in the same location” vs something like a masters program.

 

[oweue]

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It definitely sucks to only hear no (and that was me my first round and almost my second as well) but I would definitely recommend continuing to gain experiences (including new ones and in areas you may not have explored or have minimal hours) and make connections to get as strong of letters as possible. Have back up plans for next fall as well, even if it’s just “continue gaining experiences and working and living in the same location” vs something like a masters program.

other than my grades, my academic lor is probably my weakest due to Covid having online courses for [emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]]] semesters for me. I wasn’t really able to make good connections. I really don’t know how to make stronger academic connections other than taking post bac courses or a masters, but to get into a masters program you need academic recs :/ such a catch [emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]]

 

[SkiOtter]

my academic lor is probably my weakest due to Covid having online courses

Definitely focus on schools that do not even require an academic LOR if it’s a weak one. There definitely are many that don’t. Unless your in state is one that requires one, it may be worthwhile to nix the academic LOR schools if it’s a weak one

 

[Tech_Penguin]

What about taking a class at a community college?

 

[oweue]

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Definitely focus on schools that do not even require an academic LOR if it’s a weak one. There definitely are many that don’t. Unless your in state is one that requires one, it may be worthwhile to nix the academic LOR schools if it’s a weak one

my IS requires two and others highly recommend at least one

 

[oweue]

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What about taking a class at a community college?

I’ve looked into it a lot but ones within distance to me don’t offer what I need unfortunately

 

[SkiOtter]

my IS requires two and others highly recommend at least one

OOF that’s rough then 🥲
My IS did not so I didn’t apply to any that required them the second round and it definitely helped me since I then was able to have a different, stronger letter as one of my 3.

 

[pp9]

other than my grades, my academic lor is probably my weakest due to Covid having online courses. I wasn’t really able to make good connections. I really don’t know how to make stronger academic connections other than taking post bac courses or a masters, but to get into a masters program you need academic recs :/ such a catch

Coming from my anecdotal evidence: Even without the online course issue, I think it's kinda common for academic LORs to be a bit subpar. It is difficult imo to establish a really good relationship with a professor even with in person classes, particularly if you attend larger schools. Even if you do get a prof to agree to write you a letter, you also run the risk of it being canned (an educated guess with literally no actual data beyond personal anecdotes: profs seem more likely to submit a canned letter than anyone else). Sure, you met the requirements, but a canned letter is not a good thing. At the very least, if it's not a canned and if they don't know you well, it will be a pretty superficial letter.

I'm not sure how much your schools say when they describe what counts for an academic letter...my academic letter was from someone whose main role was an advisor within the college my major was in. I wasn't trying to pull a fast one by choosing him, but he technically fit the criteria listed by the schools I applied to and absolutely knew me better than a professor who (for example) taught me for one semester in a room of 200 other students. Is that something that could work?

I hate working nights. I’m not even really working nights, which maybe is the problem. I work until 1 or 2 on Fridays and every other Saturday which when I’m trying to maintain a daylight schedule for my fiancé and for school feels exhausting. But it’s how I pay for the car I unexpectedly had to buy and managed to not take out a single grad plus loan so it’s a means to an end I suppose.

Swing shifts are brutal, I don't think people realize that until you've worked them. Working until 2 is not late enough to convert to nocturnal living, not early enough to feel good when you try to live in the daylight. And, if you're like me, you'll wake up by 7am after getting home at 2-3 and just lie in bed awake until it's time to leave for your next shift because your sleep schedule is so screwy. Driving was downright dangerous for me when I was on swing shifts.

I miss my ER paychecks, but I do not miss feeling like I was literally on death's doorstep most of the time.

 

[Trilt]

Swing shifts are brutal, I don't think people realize that until you've worked them. Working until 2 is not late enough to convert to nocturnal living, not early enough to feel good when you try to live in the daylight. And, if you're like me, you'll wake up by 7am after getting home at 2-3 and just lie in bed awake until it's time to leave for your next shift because your sleep schedule is so screwy. Driving was downright dangerous for me when I was on swing shifts.

I miss my ER paychecks, but I do not miss feeling like I was literally on death's doorstep most of the time.

Oh man but this really depends on the person. I've transitioned to doing more actual overnight shifts and I miss working majority swing - if you leave me to my own devices I'll go to bed at like 2-4am and wake up 10-12pm, so swing shifts are actually *chefs kiss* to my natural sleep schedule.

Does suck to do normal human hours things, though, and I roll my eyes so hard when you can tell people are judging a bit for me "sleeping in" with my bat **** hours.

 

[Trilt]

(I realized this is a little digressing now, looking at the post you were responding to - sorry - but man I really miss working mostly swing lol)

 

[pp9]

Oh man but this really depends on the person. I've transitioned to doing more actual overnight shifts and I miss working majority swing - if you leave me to my own devices I'll go to bed at like 2-4am and wake up 10-12pm, so swing shifts are actually *chefs kiss* to my natural sleep schedule.

Does suck to do normal human hours things, though, and I roll my eyes so hard when you can tell people are judging a bit for me "sleeping in" with my bat **** hours.

I guess for more context, my hospitals were often doing day-day-swing, swing-swing-night, and other BS like that. I still don't know how my work bestie worked nearly 100% nights, and would be out and about with me during the daylight on her weekends. I had to fully commit to nocturnal living while on nights for my survival.

Total side note, but I've been 8-5 (and day shift ER relief only) for 3 years and my sleep schedule is still messed up from my 3 years of FT ER. If I don't let myself fall asleep the second I feel tired at night, I am up until 3-4am. No exceptions.

 

[oweue]

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Coming from my anecdotal evidence: Even without the online course issue, I think it's kinda common for academic LORs to be a bit subpar. It is difficult imo to establish a really good relationship with a professor even with in person classes, particularly if you attend larger schools. Even if you do get a prof to agree to write you a letter, you also run the risk of it being canned (an educated guess with literally no actual data beyond personal anecdotes: profs seem more likely to submit a canned letter than anyone else). Sure, you met the requirements, but a canned letter is not a good thing. At the very least, if it's not a canned and if they don't know you well, it will be a pretty superficial letter.

I'm not sure how much your schools say when they describe what counts for an academic letter...my academic letter was from someone whose main role was an advisor within the college my major was in. I wasn't trying to pull a fast one by choosing him, but he technically fit the criteria listed by the schools I applied to and absolutely knew me better than a professor who (for example) taught me for one semester in a room of [emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]] other students. Is that something that could work?


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I miss my ER paychecks, but I do not miss feeling like I was literally on death's doorstep most of the time.

tried that too, one said their office wasn’t allowed to write them (my PREVET ADVISOR!), my other one literally said she would not be able to write a strong rec for me. it sucks a lot being stuck in this limbo!

to be specific, the school says “a faculty member who taught you” in a science or other course, so they do want a professor in addition to the advisor

 

[couldhavebeenme]

It's so annoying to have graduated in the midst of the SAVE kerfuffle because I applied for SAVE but ofc they won't process applications until after your grace period ends and my grace period didn't end until Nov and now they won't process applications due to the case being stalled in the courts... so they put me onto the standard 10-year plan (to the tune of $1600/month) by default. Just called the servicer to ask to be put in administrative forbearance while SAVE gets figured out and the representative told me I don't need to do that at this point (even tho they keep sending me emails demanding $1600/month). My student loan account is in "unknown status." Why does such a f'd up system have to be made WORSE. And ofc SAVE is going away w/ no hope of saving it and the next 4 years are probably going to be... abysmal in the student loan realm. Idk how long I can afford to be a large animal vet where I live if something doesn't give.

 

[MixedAnimals77]

It's so annoying to have graduated in the midst of the SAVE kerfuffle because I applied for SAVE but ofc they won't process applications until after your grace period ends and my grace period didn't end until Nov and now they won't process applications due to the case being stalled in the courts... so they put me onto the standard 10-year plan (to the tune of $1600/month) by default. Just called the servicer to ask to be put in administrative forbearance while SAVE gets figured out and the representative told me I don't need to do that at this point (even tho they keep sending me emails demanding $1600/month). My student loan account is in "unknown status." Why does such a f'd up system have to be made WORSE. And ofc SAVE is going away w/ no hope of saving it and the next 4 years are probably going to be... abysmal in the student loan realm. Idk how long I can afford to be a large animal vet where I live if something doesn't give.

Idk how much your loans are or in relation to your pay but would PAYE work for you? That's what I'm on. I'm also in VMLRP land. Just a thought-no idea if it would work for you and your situation.

 

[couldhavebeenme]

Idk how much your loans are or in relation to your pay but would PAYE work for you? That's what I'm on. I'm also in VMLRP land. Just a thought-no idea if it would work for you and your situation.

It would but they're not processing any income based repayment plans right now I guess. Unfortunately I'm not in a VMLRP area, instead just an incredibly high COL area!

 

[MixedAnimals77]

It would but they're not processing any income based repayment plans right now I guess. Unfortunately I'm not in a VMLRP area, instead just an incredibly high COL area!

Psst psst *move to my neck of the woods*
Jk. Bummer. Hopefully it'll get sorted soon. You're not the only one i promise!

 

[honeypot999]

Norovirus is kicking my butt. So much for enjoying the last week of break

 

[thenontraveler]

Getting diagnosed with a peritonsillar abscess 2 days before I have to fly back to school. Woooo