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CoffeeQuestionMark said:
1. What you feel is validated - if your are stressed, upset, etc how can you be in the wrong or be delusional? They're valid responses. I can think of 3 ways to handle that:

-continue feeling what you're feeling
-try to figure out if there are adjustments that can be made to make it more bearable (from personal experience, this is only ever temporary and eventually it'll be just as stressful)
-leave

2. Whenever I've left a stressful job, I've NEVER regretted it. The feeling is always "why didn't I do this sooner" . Just fyi.

3. However there is no guarantee that the next place will be any better

-and it's hard to tell how you'll like a place before you start. My favorite jobs have been ones that I really liked the manager/owner during the interview and has had less to do with my co-workers.
-the turn around of employees is a poor indication too.. I worked somewhere with high turn-around that I loved and stayed for 5.5 years, and a place with low turn-around (the others had worked there for 8+ years) that I stayed for less than a year because I didn't click with anyone.
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ajs513 said:
I don’t think your were in the wrong entirely here. I do think that the vet should come forward about his stress to the manager if he wants things to get better though. Is there some sort of policy to run lab work same-day? If not, then running it overnight could be something that would be beneficial for patients who really don’t need it done right away. I’m not a vet, but where I’ve worked we never saw the value in running a CBC chem in house while the client is waiting in the room taking up space and time and being bored when it wasn’t urgent. It allows for a 15 minute appointment (we’d usually do 30 but that includes history from the tech) and quick turnover. You see more people, treat more animals, and everyone is happy.

But that’s sort of above your ability to bring up to the manager because, with how it sounds, they definitely would think that’s a recommendation that shouldn’t come from an assistant. I would definitely talk with the vet personally about this and let him know you’re concerned. I’ve had to very clearly tell both vets I’ve worked for that I was concerned for them, and both times it was appreciated. It’s obvious that if something is going to get done with this manager it’s going to have to come from the vet himself.
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Thank you both for your responses. It's definitely nice to feel validated. I've actually been offered a full time summer job at farm where I currently volunteer from time to time (and I absolutely LOVE working there), and I only intend staying at my current place of work until March.

I think the big problem with the way things are run is that the clinics are owned by one of the (other) vets. The manager seems to have a very faint idea of how things go day-to-day (seldom does he come into the clinics, he mostly works from home and comes in for meetings but that is usually when there are no clients...). And the owner is extremely old school and 'my way or the highway'. They don't seem to be on the same page most days, because techs and assistants will follow protocol and the vet owner will tell us to change what we're doing because he likes his way better (this is all okay i guess except it means the protocol and what he wants are usually very different, makes it hard for everyone to do their job properly..). This vet usually delegates the large majority of the tasks to techs (some of which he is not even legally allowed to delegate i think...) and he has 10 years + experience so this system works for him (and hence they would never change it to what you are suggesting, which sounds like a great plan). I'm honestly not sure how the future looks for this company. It's very common for us to lose patients because things just don't run smoothly.

Yes, I agree that speaking with the vet directly would be my only alternative. I have expressed concern to him but can't say I have really suggested speaking to the manager as I didn't want to overstep. The manager himself said he would discuss it with the vet, but it was hard to tell whether he was just saying that to shut me up.

I definitely won't regret leaving this job and this situation made it really easy for me to accept a different summer job. I just wish some work environments could be more participative especially in light of the inevitable stresses anyone working in this field comes across.
 
@supershorty, im so sorry. Much love to you and everyone who knew your friend. You can message me if you need to talk. <3
 
Somewhat petty rant: I also been told about people with tinnitus and I've always thought how that must suck... All day yesterday and this morning I've had a pulsing in my ear that's driving me crazy. I decide to look it up and it's a rare form of tinnitus 😢 I thought it would just go away on its own. It may be treatable because it's pulsatile tinnitus and not the normal tinnitus but that means more doctor's visits and I've had it with those recently. Just generally pissed off because it's not allowing me to focus or sleep because I just keep hearing my heartbeat.
 
Coopah said:
Somewhat petty rant: I also been told about people with tinnitus and I've always thought how that must suck... All day yesterday and this morning I've had a pulsing in my ear that's driving me crazy. I decide to look it up and it's a rare form of tinnitus 😢 I thought it would just go away on its own. It may be treatable because it's pulsatile tinnitus and not the normal tinnitus but that means more doctor's visits and I've had it with those recently. Just generally pissed off because it's not allowing me to focus or sleep because I just keep hearing my heartbeat.
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I understand your frustration. I had pulsatile tinnitus last year, and it was the worst. I had to get a white noise machine and a very loud fan in order to sleep decently again. :/ Luckily, it went away after 2 months.
 
blueheeler said:
I understand your frustration. I had pulsatile tinnitus last year, and it was the worst. I had to get a white noise machine and a very loud fan in order to sleep decently again. :/ Luckily, it went away after 2 months.
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Do you know why you had it or why it went away? This is the best news to me.

Addendum petty rant: they need to redo my root canal because although all radiographic evidence points to the fact the roots are completely removed, I have pain on biting 😡 can someone refund my body please? If like a younger model as compensation 😛
 
Coopah said:
Somewhat petty rant: I also been told about people with tinnitus and I've always thought how that must suck... All day yesterday and this morning I've had a pulsing in my ear that's driving me crazy. I decide to look it up and it's a rare form of tinnitus 😢 I thought it would just go away on its own. It may be treatable because it's pulsatile tinnitus and not the normal tinnitus but that means more doctor's visits and I've had it with those recently. Just generally pissed off because it's not allowing me to focus or sleep because I just keep hearing my heartbeat.
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Hi I have pulsatile tinnitus on a semiregular basis you’re not alone! Mine will just appear randomly and go away on its own at some point it’s fun
 
Coopah said:
Do you know why you had it or why it went away?
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I don’t know the exact reason why I had it. I’m sorry. :c I think it may have been due to stress.
 
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CoffeeQuestionMark said:
2. Whenever I've left a stressful job, I've NEVER regretted it. The feeling is always "why didn't I do this sooner" . Just fyi.
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Echo this experience. And the "Sooner" thought as in "Why didn't I leave years sooner?"

Sometimes the grass really is greener on the other side, and Stockholm Syndrome's a b where you don't realize how badly an employer or management are taking advantage.

If the team is really heavily leaning on you and nobody has the skillset or depth, they'll really feel your absence after you've exhausted all options. That's their own problem. Sometimes the best way to be heard is to professionally lay it all out in one's termination letter so that HR and VPs and executives take notice, since lower management are incompetent or malicious.
 
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Coopah said:
Somewhat petty rant: I also been told about people with tinnitus and I've always thought how that must suck... All day yesterday and this morning I've had a pulsing in my ear that's driving me crazy. I decide to look it up and it's a rare form of tinnitus 😢 I thought it would just go away on its own. It may be treatable because it's pulsatile tinnitus and not the normal tinnitus but that means more doctor's visits and I've had it with those recently. Just generally pissed off because it's not allowing me to focus or sleep because I just keep hearing my heartbeat.
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I had the pulsatile variant this year, and it went away on its own I think after a few weeks. I don't know what root cause was, and I don't know why it went away. Now I'm just at my baseline regular high-pitched tinnitus.

Edit: In hindsight, wonder if it related to any stress-induced htn or something.

Coopah said:
[I'd] like a younger model as compensation 😛
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Second this! 😉 :ninja:
 
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I have my interview at Michigan State this Friday and I think I might be depressed enough to burst into tears in each interviewers' face
 
My insurance likes changing my birthday at random times every year and kicking me off the insurance (or putting me on the insurance twice and deleting my younger brother). Super fun. So now I have to get two of my PT appointments rebilled because my insurance denied the claims because my ****ing birthday didn’t match. +pissed+:rage:
 
The deferment on one of my loans apparently ended in June because they stopped getting notification that I was enrolled. Did they tell me about this? Well of course not. So now I get a "surprise! you have a payment due in 3 weeks." Well, I don't have any freaking money to give you so let me now run around trying to fix this because you couldn't bother telling me 6 months ago when I would have immediately noticed something was wrong and fixed it then. Thanks. Thanks a whole lot.
 
finnickthedog said:
The deferment on one of my loans apparently ended in June because they stopped getting notification that I was enrolled. Did they tell me about this? Well of course not. So now I get a "surprise! you have a payment due in 3 weeks." Well, I don't have any freaking money to give you so let me now run around trying to fix this because you couldn't bother telling me 6 months ago when I would have immediately noticed something was wrong and fixed it then. Thanks. Thanks a whole lot.
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I hate loan management companies. They somehow make things as freaking difficult as possible no matter what.
 
Can't focus on anything, basically. The only productive thing I've been able to do lately is speed read books and then immediately forget the plots. It's understandable given the circumstances but it's also kind of frustrating and just makes me more sad.
 
@WildZoo ...

Thinking about you and sending kind and comforting thoughts to you.

Many SDNers care about you - we're here for you.

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Today was the first day this semester that my mental health really caught up to me. Laundry is heaping in the corner, litters need to be changed, carpet needs to be vacuumed (bc of said litters and my messy cats), recycling needs to be put out, and you get the jist. I’m a physical clutter = mental clutter type of person, so I’m gunna need to clean some before I can be productive. And when things are like this, my anxiety just feeds into the clutter and makes me go on a cleaning spree, and then I get anxious about not studying and panic study. Runaway anxiety. Kinda like DIC.

Ok I really need to take the night off...
 
grebes4lyfe said:
I can’t study anymore. I’ve literally run into a giant brick wall that will not let me pass. I’m done with 2/5 exams. I have biochem Friday, histo practical Monday, histo written Wednesday. Please make it stop.
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SAME. And I have two more finals tomorrow and Friday. The one tomorrow probably being harder.
 
On another note, the vet said Ricky and Lucy look great but need more fresh produce with vitamin A. I told her I haven’t bought fresh produce since September (that wasn’t in the form of a salad from sweetgreen or some other prepared food item... I don’t have scurvy, I *have* eaten fresh produce since school started). So I went to wawa and bought a snack pack of baby carrots with my morning coffee to give my birbs. This is what vet school has done to me.
 
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Preferably don't quote this because I might decide to delete it but... I just finished my last final and I'm done with lectures for good. Starting clinics in just a few weeks. I should be happy. Which I was... for about 30 seconds. Now I just feel empty. Like, I'm still glad to be done and I think the happiness is probably still there somewhere but it's buried under crap. And it's not like I don't know why I feel like crap, I know exactly why I feel like crap. But I can't really talk about it and it's not really fixable. And I'm annoyed that I can't even just be happy for a few hours about a good thing. I hope clinics are better because this first 2.5 years has just been gross and isolating and depressing.
 
I saw rant here so I'm going with it.
I was recently accepted into vet school, but my grades have never been the best, and currently I am taking orgo for a second time with a new teacher because out old one left, because every prof leaves my school, and I am terrified that I am going to get another D. I cannot keep taking this class, it is literally eating away at me. On top of that I just got my grades back from my stats class that I took online at my old community college and I got a D, meaning I will now probably be kicked out of the honor society there and at risk of losing my scholarship for the 4 year I am currently at. I have never tried so hard in a semester to no avail. Like I am terrified I am going to fail my orgo final again tomorrow. I need to bump my grade by just about 3% points to get a C. Does anyone know if after a vet school rejects you they can take back that offer? My acceptance did not say conditional, but I figured all offers are conditional based on your final grades.
 
goforthejug said:
I saw rant here so I'm going with it.
I was recently accepted into vet school, but my grades have never been the best, and currently I am taking orgo for a second time with a new teacher because out old one left, because every prof leaves my school, and I am terrified that I am going to get another D. I cannot keep taking this class, it is literally eating away at me. On top of that I just got my grades back from my stats class that I took online at my old community college and I got a D, meaning I will now probably be kicked out of the honor society there and at risk of losing my scholarship for the 4 year I am currently at. I have never tried so hard in a semester to no avail. Like I am terrified I am going to fail my orgo final again tomorrow. I need to bump my grade by just about 3% points to get a C. Does anyone know if after a vet school rejects you they can take back that offer? My acceptance did not say conditional, but I figured all offers are conditional based on your final grades.
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Your acceptance would likely be conditional upon successful completion of the prerequisites. Contact the school and find out what their policy. Some don’t care if you’ve failed a non pre-req. If you fail a pre-req then you haven’t successfully completed it and don’t meet matriculation requirements typically.
 
Hugs @finnickthedog. I hope you're able to find the joy under all the crap. Don't know details and don't need to (though I'm always around if you do need an ear...or eye...since it would be reading...ANYWAY), just know we're here for ya. Clinics is better. I 100% will stand by that.
 
@finnickthedog I’m sorry other crap is bringing you down 🙁 I do think clinics are SO much better, although tough in a different way. I hope whatever is going on for you improves and that you’ve got family and/or friends to lean on. Plus we’re all here too 🙂 Don’t ever hesitate to reach out to the people that care about you.
 
sheltermed said:
I have my interview at Michigan State this Friday and I think I might be depressed enough to burst into tears in each interviewers' face
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Just be you! Don't be overly concerned about making what you feel might be the answer they're looking for, and answer to show your personality. You got to the interview stage, which means you're qualified and good enough to be in the school. Take it one room at a time, and forget about what might be a bad room once that door closes behind you

finnickthedog said:
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Finnington,
I'm sorry I haven't seen you in a bit. School up to this point has been like drowning, and coming up for air only to get hammered by another test or quiz. Take this break, and think about anything but school. It might take a few weeks to get into the swing of clinics, but it's not as scary as it seems as an outsider. Show up, be willing to put in work, help out your fellow students (and the nurses, too!), and try to keep a positive outlook. You can do anything for 3 weeks (or 2 in the case of the large animal rotations).

Hearing impaired,
Teep
 
hopefulvetschool said:
It's very common for us to lose patients because things just don't run smoothly.
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😱

Like they die!? Or they run away into the parking lot and beyond? Or like the clients get pissed and go elsewhere?

This begs so many questions. Like, it’s actually really hard to accidentally kill dog/cat patients on a regular basis even when you commit malpractice habitually.
 
Minnerbelle said:
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Like they die!? Or they run away into the parking lot and beyond? Or like the clients get pissed and go elsewhere?

This begs so many questions. Like, it’s actually really hard to accidentally kill dog/cat patients on a regular basis even when you commit malpractice habitually.
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OMG i'm so sorry that was really unclear. Lose as in they transfer to other practices. The vets I work with are competent and people leave because of stupid logistical things (just pure disorganization), eg one time the manager forgot to advise a vet that he had changed her schedule last minute so she came 2 hours late (when she usually comes in) and the client was like wtf how does this happen.
 
hopefulvetschool said:
OMG i'm so sorry that was really unclear. Lose as in they transfer to other practices. The vets I work with are competent and people leave because of stupid logistical things (just pure disorganization), eg one time the manager forgot to advise a vet that he had changed her schedule last minute so she came 2 hours late (when she usually comes in) and the client was like wtf how does this happen.
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Oh that’s not as exciting then. I mean good for the animals... but horrible management is like a dime a dozen in this profession.
 
I thought I’d gotten to the point where what awful, hateful BS family members spout doesn’t bother me anymore, but nope. Apparently not. So now I’m sitting alone angry crying.
 
Of course I would a receive a jury summons in January... when I have veterinary school interviews... [emoji24] Has anybody else been in this situation before?
 
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