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Had a recruiter call me last week, told her I was not interested. In all honesty, I was NOT in the mood when I answered the phone already and so I was probably fairly short and snippy with the recruiter. Not rude, just cut her off fairly quickly stating "I am not interested, please take me off your list."

I am not kidding--- she called me again the very next day. Le Sigh.
 
MixedAnimals77 said:
Plantar fascitis...it hurts so bad initially to walk I almost want to cry. Already going on 2 months of this 😭 and I haven't even gone back to working yet so it's not like I'm on my feet the whole day.
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I've been dealing with either this or peroneal tendonitis for a few weeks myself and it is the worst! Completely out of the blue, too, don't know what I did to deserve this. Mine is only one foot at least so I can hobble around until I warm out of it
 
pp9 said:
Anyone else feel like vet med recruiters are getting to be a particular type of aggressive? It's borderline harassment at times, especially if I've already said that I'm not looking for anything FT or PT and that's what they're recruiting for. Leave me and my email/LinkedIn/phone number/social media alone pls.

Also how has Evette not completely folded after that giant fiasco last year?
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I got 5 text messages on Monday from recruiters. One of them sending another message after 3 which I did not reply to in one day. Not looking for a job, but that level of desperation is definitely a turn off….
 
katiemcat said:
I got 5 text messages on Monday from recruiters. One of them sending another message after 3 which I did not reply to in one day. Not looking for a job, but that level of desperation is definitely a turn off….
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I'm just not understanding where this has all come from in the last year or so. There seems to be quite a few recruiting companies out there now and I really don't think our field is set up for something like that.
 
pp9 said:
I've been dealing with either this or peroneal tendonitis for a few weeks myself and it is the worst! Completely out of the blue, too, don't know what I did to deserve this. Mine is only one foot at least so I can hobble around until I warm out of it
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same. Its my left foot. Sudden onset, no inciting event. Its not like i run 10ks on the regular-im still rehabbing from my acl sx and hadnt even restarted pt from having baby at the time. Just got up from the couch one day and haven't been the same since. Though at this point my right foot hurts from compensating but not nearly as bad as my left. Went to the podiatrist got insoles and house shoes. I feel like an old lady
 
pp9 said:
I'm just not understanding where this has all come from in the last year or so. There seems to be quite a few recruiting companies out there now and I really don't think our field is set up for something like that.
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If I do get a new job this fall, I'm purposely not going through a recruiter. I'm absolutely going old school and going directly to the clinic (if privately owned), the corp website, or a friend if I know someone (so they get a referral bonus if it works out).
 
Also not a rant or a rave (maybe just a large panic), but I'm coming up right behind @katiemcat assuming everything goes well. Just found out yesterday that I'm 4 weeks pregnant. Took 3 at-home tests and a quant hCG test after being 2 days late and none were subtle positives. Holy ****. Holy, holy ****. Feels like it isn't real, I don't really feel any different. In hindsight there may have been a few subtle signs, but all of those things could be contributed to being in my 30s too lol.

We have been trying in the sense that I've been off BC since the end of April, but truly I didn't think this was going to happen so I haven't put much time or thought into anything. Especially so soon. Literally the shock of my life when the first test was a ripping instant positive, especially after being told over and over again that I'd need to go through fiery hoops to get pregnant.

Time to stick my nose in a few books, for being a doctor I have no idea what's going on with my body now lol. And try to resist the urge to test every morning to make sure it doesn't 'disappear.'
 
pp9 said:
Also not a rant or a rave (maybe just a large panic), but I'm coming up right behind @katiemcat assuming everything goes well. Just found out yesterday that I'm 4 weeks pregnant. Took 3 at-home tests and a quant hCG test after being 2 days late and none were subtle positives. Holy ****. Holy, holy ****. Feels like it isn't real, I don't really feel any different. In hindsight there may have been a few subtle signs, but all of those things could be contributed to being in my 30s too lol.

We have been trying in the sense that I've been off BC since the end of April, but truly I didn't think this was going to happen so I haven't put much time or thought into anything. Especially so soon. Literally the shock of my life when the first test was a ripping instant positive, especially after being told over and over again that I'd need to go through fiery hoops to get pregnant.

Time to stick my nose in a few books, for being a doctor I have no idea what's going on with my body now lol. And try to resist the urge to test every morning to make sure it doesn't 'disappear.'
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Congratulations!! I had my first baby back in February! I also panicked when I found out last year lol. I was always a person who was unsure on having kids, because I really liked my freedom and love traveling, but also was fortunate that I could put my career and training first and have a partner who was willing to wait for me to be settled (though he was ready for kids when we met 10 years ago haha). For some reason I always felt like it would take a while for me to get pregnant, but literally the first time we tried (I knew I was ovulating) it happened, and I was shook. BUT now after almost 6 months with our baby girl, she's really the best thing ever, I love her so much and I'm so happy we have her. In terms of not knowing what's going on with your body, I really liked the "What to Expect" app! It updates every week with how big the baby is and the changes they and you are going through, which kept it fun and interesting 🙂
 
At some point people need to stop blaming the school for you failing a class and realize it was on you.

They are fixing it and trying to find a better way to prevent it but you can’t be mad at their solution and their inability to change the past.
 
pp9 said:
Also not a rant or a rave (maybe just a large panic), but I'm coming up right behind @katiemcat assuming everything goes well. Just found out yesterday that I'm 4 weeks pregnant. Took 3 at-home tests and a quant hCG test after being 2 days late and none were subtle positives. Holy ****. Holy, holy ****. Feels like it isn't real, I don't really feel any different. In hindsight there may have been a few subtle signs, but all of those things could be contributed to being in my 30s too lol.

We have been trying in the sense that I've been off BC since the end of April, but truly I didn't think this was going to happen so I haven't put much time or thought into anything. Especially so soon. Literally the shock of my life when the first test was a ripping instant positive, especially after being told over and over again that I'd need to go through fiery hoops to get pregnant.

Time to stick my nose in a few books, for being a doctor I have no idea what's going on with my body now lol. And try to resist the urge to test every morning to make sure it doesn't 'disappear.'
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First off huge congratulations!!!!!!! I’m so happy for you!

Second I’m so happy I have a pregnancy buddy now even if not IRL 😂 I also found out because I was 2 days late. It’s crazy how effective birth control is because suddenly ya stop it and BAM! I didn't really feel much of anything until I woke up sick at exactly 6 weeks. I’m 10 weeks tomorrow and I’m just coming out the other side of morning sickness/fatigue/acid reflux. Some people don’t get sick at all though! You’re not crazy to want to keep taking tests. I think I took them for like 10 days to “make sure it was for real.” 😂

My friendly unsolicited advice: stock up on ginger ale, tums, and light healthy snacks (saltines also help my nausea!) Also don’t be afraid to ask your partner for help with even little things if you don’t feel up to it.
 
allygator13 said:
Congratulations!! I had my first baby back in February! I also panicked when I found out last year lol. I was always a person who was unsure on having kids, because I really liked my freedom and love traveling, but also was fortunate that I could put my career and training first and have a partner who was willing to wait for me to be settled (though he was ready for kids when we met 10 years ago haha). For some reason I always felt like it would take a while for me to get pregnant, but literally the first time we tried (I knew I was ovulating) it happened, and I was shook. BUT now after almost 6 months with our baby girl, she's really the best thing ever, I love her so much and I'm so happy we have her. In terms of not knowing what's going on with your body, I really liked the "What to Expect" app! It updates every week with how big the baby is and the changes they and you are going through, which kept it fun and interesting 🙂
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katiemcat said:
First off huge congratulations!!!!!!! I’m so happy for you!

Second I’m so happy I have a pregnancy buddy now even if not IRL 😂 I also found out because I was 2 days late. It’s crazy how effective birth control is because suddenly ya stop it and BAM! I didn't really feel much of anything until I woke up sick at exactly 6 weeks. I’m 10 weeks tomorrow and I’m just coming out the other side of morning sickness/fatigue/acid reflux. Some people don’t get sick at all though! You’re not crazy to want to keep taking tests. I think I took them for like 10 days to “make sure it was for real.” 😂

My friendly unsolicited advice: stock up on ginger ale, tums, and light healthy snacks (saltines also help my nausea!) Also don’t be afraid to ask your partner for help with even little things if you don’t feel up to it.
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I've been using the Ovia app and that apparently worked for cycle tracking alone, even though I assumed my PCOS was going to make things much harder.

I'm sitting in my office now sweating about whether or not I should just tell my boss right away, or wait a bit longer.
 
pp9 said:
I've been using the Ovia app and that apparently worked for cycle tracking alone, even though I assumed my PCOS was going to make things much harder.

I'm sitting in my office now sweating about whether or not I should just tell my boss right away, or wait a bit longer.
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I’m a huge believer in telling people whenever tf you want. I know people are big on waiting until after 12 weeks when it’s “safer,” but it’s never completely “safe.” I chose to disclose to my boss and only close friends immediately. For work I needed exemption from being around radiology and anesthetic gas. I also wanted them to know why I was feeling so sick. My boss was very kind and understanding. I told my close friends and family because even if it doesn’t work out I am excited and I want their support regardless. Do whatever you feel is right! There is no social rule to follow.
 
Congratulations, pp9!!!!

My coworker is about 18 weeks and told us the day after she found out around 4ish weeks. We actually found out a month before she told her family because we needed to know for radiology and isoflurane things. If there are any risks to you with your job, definitely tell your boss sooner than later even if you’re not telling others until closer to your “safer date”
 
katiemcat said:
I’m a huge believer in telling people whenever tf you want. I know people are big on waiting until after 12 weeks when it’s “safer,” but it’s never completely “safe.” I chose to disclose to my boss and only close friends immediately. For work I needed exemption from being around radiology and anesthetic gas. I also wanted them to know why I was feeling so sick. My boss was very kind and understanding. I told my close friends and family because even if it doesn’t work out I am excited and I want their support regardless. Do whatever you feel is right! There is no social rule to follow.
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This is what I'm thinking...at my zoo we usually have the doctors intubate/extubate and we aren't super careful about xrays. Our dental xray also doesn't require lead/room clearing so people tend to just take those without announcing. Our big machine also tends to spontaneously fire off so I think I'd have to be out of the room the entire time to be extra safe.

I'm just panicked and nervous because I truly feel as surprised about this as I would have been if I was still on BC (maybe that's stupid?). I feel just as panicked about this conversation as I was when I was about to tell my last boss I was quitting.

SkiOtter said:
Congratulations, pp9!!!!

My coworker is about 18 weeks and told us the day after she found out around 4ish weeks. We actually found out a month before she told her family because we needed to know for radiology and isoflurane things. If there are any risks to you with your job, definitely tell your boss sooner than later.
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Is she wearing a respirator during anesthesia?
 
pp9 said:
Is she wearing a respirator during anesthesia?
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She’s a bit higher risk so she has currently stepped back from all anesthesia/surgery for now, but most everyone else I’ve known who was pregnant in this field did wear a respirator for anesthesia
 
pp9 said:
Just found out yesterday that I'm 4 weeks pregnant.
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Congratulations!!!!!!! I was just thinking about the convo we had a while ago about how annoying people are to be like "when are you going to have kids" and then they get all weird when you're like "actually, I can't/it's hard/I might not be able to". I'm so happy for you ❤️ . I have no advice; just that the people I've worked with who got pregnant typically wore respirators or stopped anesthesia entirely. My hospital also offered that if we needed dosimetry badges, you can wear a second one on your belly/waist to track fetal exposure a bit better.
 
@pp9 Congrats! My coworker has PCOS and she got preggo WAY easier than she thought she was going to as well right after her wedding she's due in November.

My baby boy is 12 weeks. Like allygator I wasn't sure about kids. Love travel and independence (dont let kids stop you from doing what you love-we're in Switzerlandnright now 🤩). Finished vet training first. Hubs wanted kids. Im still adjusting-the lack of sleep and crying kills me-but his little smile and random cute coos "melts my cold heart" as my husband likes to say 😂 Not going to lie though, I miss sleeping like I used to.

As for telling work i told them right away because of all the precautions, I also have a very supportive work environment. (3 of us pregant within the last year). When we decided to try I actually was pregnant before conceiving him but lost it a few days after finding out. For me it was meant to be-theres a reason it terminated. However my husband had been so happy so it was hard for me in the fact that I felt devastated for him. That being said my work was so supportive when I went through that and when we got pregnant with him I told them asap again.

I did wear a respirator for sx most of the time. I did take some xrays but wore double lead if I had to. However, my coworker her ob (different than mine) didn't have her wear a respirator and advice seems mixed on it. Her 2 kids are perfectly healthy. My one tech just didn't do sx while she was pregnant. Oh and I did the baby center app!

Good luck 😇
 
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Another PCOS mom that got pregnant like it was going out of style!!

I told work at 12 weeks for the first one because I didn't do surgery or rads at that time. For niece-daughter, I did tell them right away because of the unique position I was in. I didn't wear a respirator for either pregnancy. My OB advised that I just be away from intubation and extubation. My final surgery with niece-daughter was at 31 weeks.

I waited to tell anyone else but my parents for the first one because I know so many early miscarriage moms that do regret telling sooner rather than waiting. My SIL went through a miscarriage with her first IVF transfer and she does not regret telling people because the support she had through IVF and everything meant the world to her.

I was soooooo laid back. Like. I didn't look anything up about being a mom 😶 all I did was the baby growth app (can't remember which I chose). I only mention this because there's no right or wrong way to do this!
 
Congrats pp9!!!

Another vote for "tell anyone anything you want at any time". A work colleague told us all late last summer that she and her husband were trying (it was relevant to our research planing meeting because she couldn't help with specific things once pregnant), and she announced while still early in the first semester. She's on mat leave right now and I'm so thrilled for her.
 
katiemcat said:
*Me only knowing my baby is the size of a prune bc the app*
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I really liked referring to my kid as the "fruit of the week" for the first half of pregnancy.

But now my kid is giant and isn't all that close to the estimated sizes so I just read the updates on development/body changes and call it a day :laugh:
 
battie said:
I didn't wear a respirator for either pregnancy. My OB advised that I just be away from intubation and extubation. My final surgery with niece-daughter was at 31 weeks.
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This was me too. I didn't go into the prep area or recovery areas and my techs were diligent about leak testing and tube fit for all my surgeries while I was pregnant. My OB and midwife were not concerned about risk from low levels of iso at all. I did take rads occasionally while pregnant but always with caution and only when there wasn't another set of hands (I did on call so that was sometimes the only option).

My last on call weekend and surgery all in one was actually at 37 weeks and I did an emergency either pyo or explore - can't remember which now 😂 Don't be like me, do not recommend. In retrospect, I probably should have cut back on the surgery and on call aspect earlier than I did. Just because I physically could work up to week 38 didn't mean I had to but the extra pay was nice tbh
 
SARdoghandler said:
Just because I physically could work up to week 38 didn't mean I had to but the extra pay was nice tbh
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For my first pregnancy, I left a week before the due date. And then my son went to 41 weeks 🤣

For my second pregnancy, I stopped working the Sunday before the Wednesday due date. It was the natural stopping point for my shift set, so made sense. But then the overnight doctor for one hospital was sick Tuesday night and I picked up the shift after reassuring my medical director there was no way I would go into labor overnight. The day time doctor the next morning was mortified I did an overnight the day before my due date. 🤣 My niece - daughter was born Sunday.
 
Yeah so I'm gonna be honest...while I don't think anyone at my job would be hostile in any way, I do think there is a reasonable chance that they will try to push me out of my caseload. My caseload is already very minimal and I've been fighting for more since day one.

One person has about half of the zoo and can't get anything (even basic records) done, one person about 1/4ish with some management responsibilities, the third has two major areas but a lot of upper management responsibilities, and I have the stuff that fell through the cracks/people don't really want to do. It's been a really difficult place to work for that reason because I'm not used to feeling bored at my jobs. Personality wise everyone is fine, but it's like we are working with those desk coverings we used to use in grade school during tests.

I'm worried what's going to happen if/when I go on maternity leave. I've never had to continually ask for more workload like this. They are very, very territorial here, to the point where we don't know what's going on with the other vets' cases because they won't communicate. It feels like we are working in a multi-doctor GP practice if that makes sense.
 
Tbh my first instinct coming from corporate america is to not notify until required for safety or policy, to reduce risk of subtle retaliation (or in your case loss of workload) or worse.
It doesn't sound like they will struggle to find coverage if you wait.
Harder to consolidate risk when anesthesia, radiology, etc are involved though.
 
I think I’d probably tell at least a supervisor sooner than later just because in addition to the anesthesia/radiology concerns, I feel like being in a zoo setting has an increased zoonotic disease risk compared to small animal practice (mostly thinking nonhuman primates, plus reptiles and their weird bacterias and stuff, but also ruminants have stuff they can pass), but that’s obviously something PP would know best about what her caseload is like and what issues their collection may harbor.

But I definitely support both looking out for yourself and telling when you’re ready and not before. It’s your decision and there’s no real “wrong” choice.

Congrats!
 
I want to be DONE WITH RESEARCH. I am not a research girlie, I am trying so hard to be invested in what I'm doing and I'm just not. I have a poster that I'm struggling with that I need to present in front of a bunch of people on an experiment I don't fully understand and I'm really having a hard time even caring about at this point. I pride myself in being able to get something out of every opportunity, even if that something is just realizing "I don't like this" but this has been draining. The inconsistent schedule, the relying on others, the trying to understand something I only have about half the knowledge for is just making me feel inadequate. I only have a week left so complaining feels stupid but it's like the closer the end gets the harder it is to keep going.
 
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_rae_ said:
I want to be DONE WITH RESEARCH. I am not a research girlie, I am trying so hard to be invested in what I'm doing and I'm just not. I have a poster that I'm struggling with that I need to present in front of a bunch of people on an experiment I don't fully understand and I'm really having a hard time even caring about at this point. I pride myself in being able to get something out of every opportunity, even if that something is just realizing "I don't like this" but this has been draining. The inconsistent schedule, the relying on others, the trying to understand something I only have about half the knowledge for is just making me feel inadequate. I only have a week left so complaining feels stupid but it's like the closer the end gets the harder it is to keep going.
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Currently feeling the same. I’m counting down the hours
 
Petty rant incoming, but I wish we got physical mailed acceptance letters in vet school. (Maybe some schools do and mine just happened to not, but I get the impression it's just not a thing).
Granted undergrad acceptance for me was almost 10 years ago, so maybe colleges overall stopped sending physical letters?

I'm sure there's a reason, but I just want the stamped letter on the fancy paper 🥲. Printing an email isn't the same
 
I’m not understanding why coworkers continually message me outside of work hours. You had all day to talk to me about this issue you were having with your project or something you needed from me when I was in lab. I’ve gotten texts well after work and on the weekend asking for data that they already have access to or can come in and access themselves.

I’m not going back to the lab on the weekend to pull up videos for you to take pictures. I’m not paid hourly.
 
apoptosis09 said:
Petty rant incoming, but I wish we got physical mailed acceptance letters in vet school. (Maybe some schools do and mine just happened to not, but I get the impression it's just not a thing).
Granted undergrad acceptance for me was almost 10 years ago, so maybe colleges overall stopped sending physical letters?

I'm sure there's a reason, but I just want the stamped letter on the fancy paper 🥲. Printing an email isn't the same
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Oof I was going to say “no, my undergrad sent letters too!!!” and then I realized my undergrad acceptances were 2017 which is ALSO almost 10 years ago…..
 
apoptosis09 said:
Petty rant incoming, but I wish we got physical mailed acceptance letters in vet school. (Maybe some schools do and mine just happened to not, but I get the impression it's just not a thing).
Granted undergrad acceptance for me was almost 10 years ago, so maybe colleges overall stopped sending physical letters?

I'm sure there's a reason, but I just want the stamped letter on the fancy paper 🥲. Printing an email isn't the same
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I felt the same when I got into grad school last year. When I was an undergrad, they sent them on that fancy thick paper too. I think I actually still have my college acceptance letter from 2012 with my sentimental stuff like my toys, favorite outfits, etc. It's a big accomplishment and deserves to be physically printed on special paper.

Congratulations on your acceptance. 🙂 When do you start?
 
RespectTheChemistry said:
I think I actually still have my college acceptance letter from 2012 with my sentimental stuff like my toys, favorite outfits, etc. It's a big accomplishment and deserves to be physically printed on special paper.
When do you start?
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Same! I still look back at it sometimes. Would like to add this one

RespectTheChemistry said:
Congratulations on your acceptance. 🙂 When do you start?
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In like 3 weeks
*panic intensifies*
 
apoptosis09 said:
Petty rant incoming, but I wish we got physical mailed acceptance letters in vet school. (Maybe some schools do and mine just happened to not, but I get the impression it's just not a thing).
Granted undergrad acceptance for me was almost 10 years ago, so maybe colleges overall stopped sending physical letters?

I'm sure there's a reason, but I just want the stamped letter on the fancy paper 🥲. Printing an email isn't the same
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I feel this!!! I think of the schools I was accepted to, I received physical mail from 2 (Oregon State and WSU), which was very appreciated! That being said, being a non-binary person, most of the schools were really bad about making sure my preferred name (which is my legal middle name but whatever) was used so it probably wouldn’t matter in my case. The only two schools that get perfect marks in the preferred name situation are Oregon State and Tufts, thanks to those teams!
 
apoptosis09 said:
Petty rant incoming, but I wish we got physical mailed acceptance letters in vet school. (Maybe some schools do and mine just happened to not, but I get the impression it's just not a thing).
Granted undergrad acceptance for me was almost 10 years ago, so maybe colleges overall stopped sending physical letters?

I'm sure there's a reason, but I just want the stamped letter on the fancy paper 🥲. Printing an email isn't the same
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Illinois was the only school to mail me an official letter. Even though it's not the school I'm attending, it makes me smile to see it hanging from my mom's fridge 🥹
 
Update to my Hill's saga from earlier this month:

I just found a piece of unidentifiable kibble in my cat's *checks hand* novel protein allergy diet. He's been so much itchier recently and I think we just found the reason why. If they can't even keep their pet allergen food uncontaminated, I don't know how they think their pecan shells aren't contaminated.
 
its so lonely moving thousands of miles away all by yourself.

my poor coping mechanisms are back in full swing and i need to learn better coping skills because i cannot..

revert back to binge eating. it ruined my life and kept me in a negative spiral for years. i cannot go back. i cannot go back.
 
_rae_ said:
Update to my Hill's saga from earlier this month:

I just found a piece of unidentifiable kibble in my cat's *checks hand* novel protein allergy diet. He's been so much itchier recently and I think we just found the reason why. If they can't even keep their pet allergen food uncontaminated, I don't know how they think their pecan shells aren't contaminated.
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Absolutely ridiculous. Hopefully they’ll recall the rest of that batch and provide you with a new bag or two free 🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼
 
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